Can an Apocalisk withstand an Odin? 

Сделай 10 Apocalisks vs 100 Jim Raynor или 100 zeratul Когда you use heroes in свое видео? With heroes battle куда уж зрелищнее будет.

@@alexdragongod Я уж не пойму, То ли авто переводчик лагает, то ли этот комментарий так и написан...

Попробую себя 1 - Apocalisks 2 - Thors 3 - Adepts 4 - Vikings 5 - Marines 6 - Mutalisk Из всех просмотренных роликов с участием Одина я понял, что первая атака это ульта. Апокалиск же всегда делает рывок. Если радиус одного будет равен другому или у Одина больше, то должен победить Апокалиск. С гидрой сложнее, но более менее. У гидры как помню нет баффа к броне. А вот Торов я проверял на гидре, Торы легко замочили их. Адепты тяжело уже... Вроде и баф к био, а вроде и броня... Спорно, если были бы равны, то думаю мародёры выйграли бы, а так адептов просто больше, надеюсь завалят количеством. Такая же суть и с инф Терранами, они сильнее чем марики, но не на много, думаю их завалят числом. Либераторы так и говорят "Урон по площади", а я говорю - линейное построение. Если не будет сборки на (4×4)+2, а хорошая 18×1 или более нормальная 9×2, то победа за мутой, благодаря двойным ударам. Ответ уже после просмотра: 1: +(Как и ожидал) 2: +(Думал разрыв будет больше) 3: -(Я надеялся на число, оно меня и подвело) 4: +(Никакой аналитики, просто угадал) 5: -(Та же история что и с адептами, хотя я слабо оценил инфестов) 6: +(В конце сильно скучковались, но всё-таки победили, а также строй удачный, но у терранов он был настроен на строй Зергов. Можно сказать, что Мута выйграла благодаря удачи.)

What does mean red/blue parameter under the mineral/gas value?

Even if the odin had landed both full barrages it would have lost.

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@@CoreStarter False. One of the barrages took out half the Apocalisk's health

maybe the odin woulda won if tychus decided to not barrage

​@@mailbox3982 if Tychus had decided to wait until after the charge then the Odin would have won.

This one muta

Kerrigan beats him too :P

@@yan-zhilinn1402 Yes, she litteraly implode it instantly... she trully is a one-hit wonder for the swarm...

@@tetegaming7402 Would probably be fun to get to play HotS with the later WoL Kerrigan (ofc with a little bit of tweeking that Kerrigan isn't fair)

...most impressive.

Maybe because the Odin AI was horrendous

"I had no idea what an Apocalisk even is" Never played Coop?? o.O

@@jihunshin4864 Not really, no.

@@jihunshin4864 Nope, i'm one of these try-hard-idiots that didn't even play the campaign :D

Apocalisk is a hero unit belonging to Stukov, i don't know the lore, but it is basically a cyber enhanced ultra (or omega), has both mech and bio tags, is massive, armored, heroic. Has burrow charge - 50 damage + 5s stun, 10s cd, and a seriously op anti-air missile barrage ability, fires 5 rockets, total damage 100, can store 40 (total burst 800 damage), and 10s cd, not sure how many rockets it recharges, maybe the full 40. (Also is autocast by default, so no need to micro it constantly) Edit: wiki says base unit ultralisk/thor, and now that i look at it, the mech part does look like a thor somewhat.

I think the infested terran used is the campaign version with 100 hp instead of 1v1 ladder old patch unit of 60 or 80 hp with missiles launcher.

Landed vikings still do kinga suck. They're a natural counter to stalkers with their huge bonus for mechanical and they were the more expensive army, and still barely won.

i feel bad for poor tychus

@@coyrex1250 barely won because of stalker micro, remove the blink and do this same fight and vikings would roll all over the stalkers.

@@GraveUypo If Stalkers had a better blink script they would win about every single of these matchups. Same goes for Marines and many other units with stutterstepping. Stalkers strength is blink afterall, it's like playing marines without combatshield and stim, inefficient.

The Mutalisks accidentally microed nearly perfectly against the Liberators - normally the killer for Mutas in this matchup is the fact that Liberators have splash on their air-to-air, but the Mutas all stayed separated and avoided the splash. (While Muta's splash is longer ranged, so it still came into play more.)

wrrr

I get that this series is very much "for fun", but I do agree that the disparity between unit micro always bothers me. On one hand, you have Stalkers performing inhumanly perfect blink micro and disruptors with perfect cooldown managment and shot placement. On the other, you have HTs stacking storms, tanks sieging super late, and marines not even using stim. Stuff you mentioned like studder stepping and target firing are common even in lower level games, yet are completely absent here. Again, it's all for fun, but it also makes this a very wonky demonstration of balance.

@@skiks3562 because this is all ai controlled and I don't think the ai stutter steps. They do use the stalker's blink. And siege tanks also tend to siege right when the ai spots you. I'm not sure if they focus fire though, they might actually prioritise wounded targets

That's all the part of units composition. It's just not possible to be 100% efficient. Also in game, there are landscapes that will decide the match or a battle, so it's never at full efficiency.

@@skiks3562 the blink stalkers don't have perfect blink micro. Most of the time the blink helps, but sometimes it is the cause for the loss. Siege tanks don't siege up late, they siege up when there is an enemy within range. (And unsiege when no enemies in range). Since everything is autocast, ofc disruptors would cast as soon as possible, for landing shots i guess it targets like how it targets storm and stuff? (Densest clump of units) Marines absolutely stim, there is no denying that. There are the occasional ones that don't instantly stim when they go into attack range, which is very weird why it happens, but the autocast practically always stims. This isn't really a demonstration of balance, and yeah, there is pretty much 0 movement/attack micro involved, that's the whole point.

@@bluenicholasbf2142 afaik the ai is just like a-moving with autocast abilities, it doesn't have any microing AI.

ikr?

Yeah, he would've lost much harder.

Maybe not actually, it looked like the Odins normal attacks were not doing that much damage against the Apoc.

True, though my head-canon is that the burrow charge was adopted specifically to counter BIG AoE attacks like this!

I am on the same opinion. Without that special move could do better.

5/6 Stupid Hero Muta

Well, the Hydra army didn't beat the Thors.... But with a human player controlling them they obviously would.

Vikings do bonus damage to mechanical units. It's literally the only reason they won vs the stalkers. hots/wol vikings would've just been eaten alive. But people forget the vikings in assault mode do that bonus to mechanical units (mostly because you rarely see vikings in assault mode at all). At 3/3, vikings do 15+11 vs mechanical @ 0.71 seconds per attack. Surprisingly fast! But watching them you notice they're a little slow. And extremely costly to deploy as an anti-ground measure where faster units can tear them up with minimal effort.

blink micro is always good. damaged stalkers escape the front and leave brand new shiny stalkers to take their place, so the now-hurt vikings have to deal with full hp stalkers. They will start dying before stalkers do, so stalkers will get a brief unfair numbers advantage that WILL snowball pretty hard. if the fight is long enough, the back stalkers even begin to heal enough to tank significantly more hits. if there was no blink i'd say there would be a LOT more vikings left alive. like maybe 8 (on low health, but alive)

Apocalisk is a coop unit. Stukov gets it as a burst cooldown. And yeah it's really OP.

Abocolisk can still win du to the Odin's own splash damage.

Marauders are pretty much the same durability as Adepts actually. Adepts have more effective HP but a lot of it's in shields. Both have similar DPS vs each other. I think it literally came down to range.

Dude you haven't seen what the Apocalisk's Anti air is like. Say goodbye to Amon's Air wave.

@@kasothronos4434 I don't remember that one either I played all 3 campaign. Was it on ghost campa8gn?

@@entropyincrease864 the Apocalisk is a Coop unit for Shukhov.

they have 80hp and 8 damage. they are very good against marines.

thor's barrage was targeted though. its problem was that it was barely more dps than the regular attack but had an immense windup and winddown delay so it was completely worthless.

Apocalisks is one of Stukov's two call-downs in co-op. Lorewise, it is an ultralisk that has been outfitted with the armor of a thor. As such, a lot of the Apocalisk's damage output is anti-air. In co-op, you only get the Apocalisk for 30 seconds, but in Direct Strike you can build it. Stukov's two cooldowns, Apocalisk and Aleksander, are collectively referred to as "monstrosities".

not even close, IT has 2 more attack and like 25 more hp

I'd like to point out that there were almost 1200, or 30%, more resources of Vikings than Stalkers. xD

The apocalips is the coop commander stukov's calldown

Adepts have more HP than marauders (140 adepts, 125 marauders)

@@jerubaal101 Opposite way around. 20 Vikings vs 25 Stalkers. Not sure what the need to lie about the numbers does for you unless you were mistaken.

@@joshuakim5240 Pardon me. In my editing, I lost the word "resources". Please see corrected comment.