Can degrowth save the planet? with Jason Hickel 

I've read both of Jason's books and this talk cleared up a lot of doubts, thank you!!

I find myself confused about the euphoric reviews about this professor: it sound like a primary example of somebody putting himself into mud up till the neck with prosaic superficial responses and then being unable to evade a self-made trap in any other way but using even more extensively prosaic peripheral arguments. The student’s questions were quite straight and interesting, but I may dare say I found myself not having the same impression from the response of the guest: it sounded rhetoric, generalized and full of common says while never truly arriving to punctually, precisely and insightfully reply to the questions to their core (it seemed to me the host shared the same feeling: I.e. 51:13 ). Ive been listening to any single speech of somebody like Yanis Varoufakis, often debating and lecturing about the very same topics and replying to very similar questions, and I may dare say that liking or disliking the guy, his political ideas and whatnot, his response are always laser focused and deeply insightful. I don’t know professor hickel, so I’m not a liker nor disliker neither of him or his work, but from this unique interview I’ve heard with him as a guest I can’t quite comprehend nor share the enthusiasm about his speech. May I ask to kindly suggest me some interviews/lectures from this guy where I may eventually appreciate his insights and thoughts to a full extend ? Thanks. That said I thanks the host for holding this meeting and making some meaningful points and interesting questions.

She slips and call normal inteligent people "oponents"!!! at 3:45

Thank you all. Thank you Jason Hickel.

This man is incredible. Check out his interviews on the Macro n Cheese podcast. Amazing work!!

When will people come to their senses and realize we can't forever increase our numbers without ruining the small, blue planet we're on?

Jason Hickel, what a brilliant mind and an honest person! Always straight to the point, reasoning about the core problem. His responses to any argument make so much sense.. so realistic. He really "owns" what he says.

I wish Holly had had more opportunity to interview Jason. This was advertised as a student-led interview, but the professor took up the lion's share of the time. The questions she posed were more substantive than the professor's, incidentally.

Jason Hickel is my hero

His laughing as he gives his answers - as if what he's saying is so evidently and indisputably true - is just nauseating. So who will decide what production and consumption is superfluous...him?

We owe a system change to all opressed peoples, all future human generations and all species on earth. Ecosocialism needs to be implemented, by all means necessary.

the student questions were well developed, thought-out and considered; i'm sure they'd have put more to Hickel if it wasn't for the moderator. I'm glad someone made their disapproval known by the end.

Lol degrowth is just eugenics dressed up differently. The problem is the current mode of operation and who controls the means of production. You guys are all smart enough to know this really. This guy Hickel is just another guy selling you a product in the marketplace of ideas. And he's selling them like hot cakes! Doesn't he make you feel smart for saying something you already knew to be true? 🤔

If a corporation is making a product no one wants, people won't buy it and the corporation will make another product they hope will sale. Your premise we have no control over products is straight up wrong.

this lady is unbelivably caddy, feel bad for that student who was supposed to be asking questions and got railroaded the entire time.

It’s good that the moderators asked hard questions, which I felt Jason gave good answers to. Judging by the moderator’s questions and the comments in here, there seems to be a human tendency to be dubious of new ways we might structure society in a healthier way that works for everyone. But we are running out of time. We can either choose to adopt a better way now together, or wait and arrive through a more painful route.

Regrowth coupled with limitarianism may change the world for the better.

Rich nations ...excellent starting point.

Love jason, and the host had great questions 2!

Upgrade to the hydrogen economy. It is a very convenient, and cash producing step to take.

"Degrowth" demanded by people who have no understanding of what this even means.

Attempting to live in fantasyland leads to nightmares. Take advice from a person that understands neither economics nor the environment and you will get a horrible outcome. Ask any communist country.

Social controls, rationing and confiscatory economics and taxation...

I love how she accidentally demonstrates how stupid this idea is by pointing out that people were making the same claims 50 years ago and nothing they said turned out to be true

GDP is Grossly Distorted Propaganda What is Net Domestic Product? What happened to the depreciation of durable consumer goods in the NDP equation? How does planned obsolescence affect GDP?

God doesn't care about GDP and abhors greed. Please continue to make content like this so we can protect everyone, not just people in rich countries.

Capitalism and the free market are very different things. Capitalism is about the CEO class gaining advantage over all other sectors, including over small and institutional shareholders. Create systems where CEO candidates compete for their jobs in open auction rather than by crony hiring by boards of directors and capitalism starts its decline.

Replacing power fossil fuel power plants with small modular reactors is growth. Lab grown meat production is growth. Replacing gasoline powered cars with tethered electric is growth. Factory built modular homes is growth. Ramping up hydroponics, possibly with in home environmental systems, is growth. Shifting from weapons production to space exploration is growth. More public rail is growth. Raising living standards is growth. Employee-owned cooperatives converting overseas divisions and supply chains to employee ownership and control with equivalent standards of living to American employee owners is growth. Making more doctors takes growth. Expanded vacation infrastructure requires growth. There are also ways to reform raise some taxes (and scrap others), with significant tax savings for sales to ESOPs and cooperatives. Specifics. Don't promise to shut down industries. Say how you would build new ones. Saying what "should" happen without saying how, with that how being desirable, sounds nice and wins awards, but does nothing unless it is seen as an opportunity.

I suggest anyone who is not a human being hater check out Alex Epstein on why thinking like this is so destructive.

I do not know about the stupid notion of "degrowth" what is a fact is the serious global infection of "debraining"

UNLESS RICH COUNTRIES ADOPT A PLANNED ECONOMY, DEGROWTH IS NOT POSSIBLE. THE PLUTOCRACY WILL NOT ALLOW A PLANNED ECONOMY THAT LIMITS GREED. PLUTOCRACY RULES, FOLKS. SO DREAM ON.