Can Dualism Explain Consciousness? | Episode 1512 | Closer To Truth 

I am a carpenter by trade with a dualistic worldview who believes vehemently that truth is universally accessible and comes only at the end of a personal excursion wrought with acts of courage that are focussed and determine. Fortunately, this currency of truth, which is bathe in intellectual humility and self-criticism, always seeks to give reasons, provide evidence and make arguments, lends itself easily to public consumption. This type of engagement that is typically absent from our current public discourse, features front and centre in your presentations thus far, Dr Kuhn and as a consequence, it has inspired me to publish my two cents, hopefully to bring us “Closer To Truth”.

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I've watched many of these... oddly I feel farther from the truth just because I'm more aware of what we don't know.

I don't apologize for my opinion of what I experience in life reveals. There is an account of life that is experienced in my brain, and another account that is guided by my heart (which is where I believe my spirit lives). And so, when I want a new car, or something... My mind has calculated that the monthly payments fit within my budget, and the improvement that the car (or thing) would have on my life experience, and l yet, when I move towards purchasing the car, my heart says, "don't do it! It isn't that I am double minded. The two sources of input are different! I am more often thankful for listening to my heart, (my spirit)!

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_ How about non-dualism (advaita - literally meaning NOT TWO)? _ Non-dualism points to consciousness as the only reality. _ Consciousness (often equated with Awareness), is the basis and foundation of everything appearing as the world of dualism. _ To the 'limited'/(fixed by conditioning) mind, the world of dualism 'appears' as reality, whereas it is actually a modulation of the 'infinite' mind which in essence is consciousness/awareness. _ Rupert Spira masterfully discusses consciousness in his book "The Nature of Consciousness"

Mr. Kuhn is the perfect host for this show, not just because it’s his show , but he listens intently, and has the intellect to challenge these ego soaked “ academic” types.

I remember when about 10 ,sitting in the back garden, I suddenly realised I was trapped inside this body and I think I've been a bit of a coward ever since

That asian dude looks like he's about to say "Bro, Aliens."

CCT is one of the most prolific channels around. What a pleasure to wake up in the morning, with a cup of coffee, to pick on some old philosophical question. Here are some other considerations in the discussion. 1. Question the notion of "substance". This is one of the language traps (nouns and "things"). 2. I've been listening to some talks and interviews of Karl Friston. I think there is something to his description. It begins with some thermodynamic of "self" and "other". An oil drop illustrates this thermodynamic boundary. On the more animate side, there's the lipid bilayer of the cell wall. At its simplest, it includes "self" and "other" (environment), perception, motor control, inner representation mirroring the environment, the whole complex, acting together in a process. It is an "embodied" view. You can draw the line of for "consciousness" anywhere. Some talk in terms of "number of feedback loops" (e.g., Michio Kaku starts with a thermometer, then moves upwards). But a more intuitive dividing line might be the start of biological life. "Perception" is intimately related to consciousness. The bacterial cell has to sense its environment, then navigate it for "food" and survival. There is the outer reality and then some kind of internal modeling of it. Human beings have the latter in spades. They have a rich inner representation, a rich internal life. Human beings even have "meta-cognition", "model of a model of a model ...", "awareness of 'awareness'", awareness of "self" and its processes. Kurzgesagt has a nice explainer video on this. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H6u0VBqNBQ8.html&

I wish I was more academic so I could talk like these people but, when I try to understand their observations, it seems to me they're using fancy words and phrases to say they don't really have a clue. In some ways, this comforts me because I don't like the idea of missing out on something as crucial as what reality really is because I don't have a genius IQ.

I still can’t understand consciousness. But I find Yijin’s philosophy too rigid. Like his tidy life and mind, every explanation requires an answer that can be tied up neatly in a bow. So that’s how he pursue his ‘truth’. But Life gets messy and often is. I steer towards Dualism.

23:08 - So, I'm having a bit of trouble following this last guy. Is he basically saying that the pattern of electrical activity we observe in the brain is just what consciousness "looks like" as a physical perception? That seems to be dodging the core issue, but it's still an interesting contention.

Bede: "It´s easy to see when someone is conscious?" Is it really? There is no consensus which lifeforms are conscious? We cannot tell if a person in a vegetative state has conscious experience?

It would be very interesting to see thoughts on dualism/non-dualism from some of your guests after a large DMT experience.. 🤔😁

To people who say "I've never opened up the brain and saw a thought" I would respond with "I've never opened up a computer GPU and found an image." A computer is a very complicated machine composed of simple parts with the amazing ability to turn information into images, sound and more. Your brain is also a very complicated machine composed of simple parts with the amazing ability to turn information into images, sound and more.

I love the way he ends his videos by saying.. Closer to Truth.

AS Michael Egnor said in his video: Michael Egnor: the evidence against materialism: " the object that neuroscience studies the mind and the brain is best understood by dualism and i believe that neuroscientist need to become more acquainted with dualism and need to understand the limitations of materialism which are profound and which are holding the science back. The natural world can be much better understood if you assume it has purpose, you assume it has design.

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"Things are not as they appear, nor are they otherwise."(zen aphorism) It does appear that the nature of REALITY IN TOTALITY is beyond the strict categorization of any "ism". To know the mystery is to simply participate in it... without attempting to explain it. Cause you just can't! That's the beauty of it.

Below quote from St Francis cleared all my confusion Yoga says: Your true SELF is God. You just have to drop your chronic thinking 😃 Consciousness is God. Every living being is a reflection of God in an imperfect mirror Read "be as you are" by David Goodman

Peter Forrest hit the nail right on the head in my opinion. Once you see how confused and indefinite our notions of “Physical” and “Mental” are, Monism seems so obvious that it’s difficult to understand how you didn’t realize it before. It’s like a breath of fresh air

No left without right no right without left No material without immaterial Abstraction defined as contradiction (when opposites come together) and mono polarity

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I'm a materialist when I'm sober. Beyond that, things can get a little blurry.

The journey to understanding begins and ends at the same place.

Magnificent show! Bravo and thank you to all concerned.

To paraphrase Alice in Wonderland, "I've seen brains without a thought, but never a thought without a brain! Curiouser and curiouser"

Bravo Richard Swinburne, excellently stated, personhood is indeed more then just your brain.

Richard Swinburne. I may not agree with what he says, but I like the way he says it.

We are not conscious when we are in deep sleep. How can one expect to be conscious after death?

One must contend with a special idea in this context (but not only in this context, and that is important also). It is that monism is not as attractive an idea as it at first seems, but rather it is also not merely a "substance per se" that is what is at issue, either. There may be one "fundamental substance" say, and yet it matters what state it is in, as it cannot meaningfully generate some phenomenon without being in a particular state. That gives a special valence to the configuration of substance that exceeds the considerations of the substances per se (in themselves). That form has its own content, and merely that content extrapolates itself through formal articulations that add no dimensions of phenomena in their own right. This is also not incompatible with substance dualism, which raises the interest.

Consider the thought experiment were we exactly duplicate a man ( as in Trek TNG episode Second Chances) At the moment of duplication we have two bodies with identical atoms and identical electrical signals in their brains. But we have two completely separate and unique consciousnesses. How can this be explained using a materialistic interpretation?

Dualism is absolutely a very real possibility. Look around you, there is an equal and opposite to everything. Physical-Spiritual, Female-Male, Life-Death, Day-Night, Hot-Cold, Up-Down, positive-negative...everything you can think of. However, I think it is more than simply that because there is always the transition between the two extremes. Regardless, there is always one or the other as the ultimate goal or end point. I really feel there is our physical reality and experience, while equally there is a spiritual or afterlife that is equally as real (whatever your interpretation of what "real" means). There is also the transition that occurs between the two BUT we ultimately end up in one state or the other. Since we are energetic beings and you don't create energy, it always exists and just manifests in different ways. Our conscious energetic beings transition from one state to the other ALL the time.

Consciousness precedes life. When we die, we won’t actually die. We will just continue but in a different form. The brain is more of an antenna than a device that creates consciousness.

25:40 - We all know that our minds can create extremely vivid dreams. The main difference between "real life" and dreams is that the dreams are generally more fuzzy and ephemeral - dream worlds don't seem to have the "rigor" of physical law. But consider the possibility that the "real world" would be a dream that's being shared by at least billions of separate consciousness minds. It's entirely possible that results in the rigorous, repeatable behavior. It's one thing for you to "mess around" in a dream that you're having alone - that doesn't necessarily mean you can do the same in a multi-billion-mind dream. I have no evidence to cite for this, but I see no reason to consider that idea implausible.

I enjoyed the show, engaging as always..I suspect MOST of the viewers of this channel accept Evolution through natural selection as the process that led from simpler life to us.. THEN why do people have a hard time accepting that consciousness EVOLVED complexity as well.. We see the same curve in animal species today! Metaphysical alternatives are impossible to falsify.. A naturalistic evolution in the complexity and gradualistic emergence of consciousness seems self- evident..Peace.

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Richard Swinburne was pretty creepy about the brains, but the explanation was unique and conclusive.

What we mean physical ?. We can think (lemon) we right away experience water and different sensual changes in the body biology without seeing the lemon . 🙏🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻

I think consciousness is like water. It behaves differently in various states. This could give the illusion of dualism when it is actually monism. Imagine a dream. You feel like you are a distinct consciousness within your dream. But what is the dream world made of? You consider the dream world to be distinct from your consciousness in the dream. But they are both consciousness.

I just can’t escape the impression that non-dualists all seek to either deny or downgrade consciousness, when, to most people, consciousness is the most immediate and certain thing that there is. In this sense, non-dualist approaches are all hopelessly lacking.

Robert, please have a discussion with Sadhguru! I would love to hear you two have this conversation.

I'm surprised the Godfather of dualism was not mentioned - Descartes. He was, as I understand him, both the founder of the scientific method and a religious believer in God. Foot in both camps? Phil

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Wow! Amazing how many ways you can see things! I keep it simple. I am conscious, and everything is experience, the profound well of insight, clarity, wisdom and understanding. I draw from that well through meditation. 🙏

Consciousness. My take on it has come from many years of being aware that it separate from the physical the material. So some will understand what I’m saying and others will dismiss it as rubbish. The reason I’m convinced it more then just the body is because I’ve been having experiences for as long as I can remember that could be called out of body. Even I would call these experiences nothing but a construction of the mind if there hadn’t been a percentage of them that could be put into context. I’ve come to believe that everything that has life is connected to a central conscious that exists apart from our physical reality. I believe we are projected into this reality. I don’t come to this conclusion because I’ve studied Eastern Philosophy or any religion I come to it from experience and context. Out of all my experiences on occasion I have one that can be linked to our reality through its context. Many times I have random experiences that are linked to horrific events but on a small scale. Like someone being murdered car accident and other similar events. Sometimes I have them related to world changing events. Three weeks before the earthquake that caused the Fukushima disaster I found myself viewing it from the perspective of someone that was there. Walking through the aftermath in a group of others seeing the damage I could smell the air feel the dampness I could see the wreckage and I could see the people around me were Asian. At that time I could only conclude that there would be a tsunami somewhere In Asia. And yes I tell people. The ones that know have no doubt but I’m usually treated with doubt. Over the years this has happened a number of times. 9-11 airplane disasters fires and so on. At the time of these great events random number generators start to not be so random. What I’m proposing is all things alive weather that’s a tree a cat a blade of grass or a human being are connected back to a central conscious. I’m not comparing conscious to intelligence though they could be intertwined.

It seemed like the physicalists, at least some of them, kept trying to have aspects of dualism as an escape hatch while saying they weren’t dualists. Struggled with their positions.

If we accept the idea of logical constraints in the fundamental operations of reality, then consciousness is the only thing that needs to exist. In fact, consciousness itself defines the constraints.

Consciousness is simply the result when Spirit interacts, or manifests as, Matter. Matter is Spirit at it's lower state, and vice versa. Ancient wisdom/knowledge, this is.

We know about the world through observation and experience. When we say we "know" about ourselves, the way we know is different from the way we know the physical world, it's not that our selves are different from the physical world, it's that the way we come to know ourselves is different. We know ourselves through our own private experiencing of our thoughts, memories and feelings. The way we know about other people is by observing them and understanding their reasons and motivation for what they do. Looking for reasons and assuming that other's actions are motivated by their private thoughts and feelings is mostly a different kind of knowing than our knowledge about the physical world. Thoughts and feelings are not experienced as observables in the external world, they are experienced as emerging into our conscious awareness from inside of us. When we try to understand others we can't see their thoughts and feelings, so we have to extrapolate from observations of their behaviour and from our own memory of ourselves or of others. This requires empathy, the ability to imagine ourselves in another's place. This is a different way of knowing than knowing about the geology of the earth or the nature of the universe. What I'm getting at is that you don't need to draw the conclusion of dualism from the fact that we know our selves in a completely different way than we know the external world.

"Mysteries solved by mysticism seem too neat." :)

Believing in Monism makes me feel good!

Consciousness can only be explained after a lifetime of staring into your belly button

Personal Conclusions from various sources "We Are All One Consciousness" for the following reasons: 1. In this world everything must have a cause, so that something exists because of something else, as well as ourselves. 2. It will be very saturating / boring if we have only one physical form in this world. 3. It will be very saturating / boring if all human beings have the exact same physical form behavior. 4. Try to imagine emptying all the physical things around us only the remnants of humanity, then eliminating all human beings leaving only their memories, then removing all their memories leaving only their consciousness, then connecting that consciousness, feel who we are ??. 5. Body, mind, feelings, emotions and everything in this world is always changing, so what never changes ??, that is our true self, which is true consciousness. If everything changes2 / moves who observes, there must be something fixed to be able to observe. 6. All human beings communicate with each other is the beginning of the beginning / the future of human beings unite, only electronic devices today can unite all human beings, one day the device is implanted in the human mind and eventually man will open all access to his mind. 7. Our body is a group / accumulation of memory accumulated brought from the beginning of the birth of the first human in the world through continuous DNA binding. 8. Twins are born at the same time, what if all human beings are born at the same time ??. What happens if the birth of all human beings is not influenced by the dimensions of space and time ?? 9. The twins are identical to A and B, if the whole memory of A is copied to B, what is the difference ?? 10. The law of attraction (law of attraction) that our minds will attract whatever we think, because we are all like one part of the body. 11. Like some of the video recordings of ourselves there is a video as a vocalist, a video as a violinist, as a pianist, as a drummer, etc. The video2 is made into one in one video then it will produce a more interesting orchestra, something new and more productive. our world. 12. Man's greatest enemy is himself, at this time man is fighting against himself. By believing that we are all one, then the ego will fade because there is no difference between us. 13. That is why the teachings of religion command us to be grateful and beneficial to many, If you are hurting others you are actually hurting yourself, just as if you are doing good to others you are actually doing good to yourself. 14. Could it be that we are all dreaming and our dreams meet each other at the same frequency in parallel. Have you ever, when sleeping dreamed of moving roles as someone else, it is because we are all one. 15. We are not immortal as human beings so that we have time for us to scroll through all of life. 16. "We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience" ~ Stephen Covey, Have you ever felt that our age is too short, could our consciousness be immortal ?. 17. We are one, only the role is different, the memory block between life is what makes people feel different / separate. Just by brainwashing / erasing his memory then someone will be a different person but his consciousness actually remains the same. One consciousness experiences various perspectives of reality. 18. The lucky thing for us is ... awareness is always towards / seeking / having intentions / desires towards good / positive / happiness despite experiencing various mistakes. 19. When we die the body and memory are destroyed, how can we remember ever being dead. 20. Why do we have to die? ", When we are told to die, later this eternal question will be asked again and we will always be there." The world is a sustainable life "~ Bruce Lipton 21. In the beginning we were one, but split through a big explosion or bigbang to become different and separate as it is now, but we are provided with a sense of love for us to be able to be reunited later. 22. There is only us and the mirror of ourselves in this world, yet there is another world out there. 23. We will always smile happily seeing each other as ourselves "How beautiful I am" seeing a different self. 24. If all consciousness is told now that they are all one if the experience gained is enough, the consciousness designed from the beginning is so different that there is so much intrigue, consciousness is created differently so that when it comes together it has an incredible consciousness experience. 25. We are indeed alone in this universe, but there are still many other universes with their own laws of nature. 26. Have you ever felt to come to a place that has never been visited but feel familiar with that place, as if we have lived in that place sometime. 27. The world is like a script of a story that is being written by the author, sometimes changed at the beginning, sometimes changed in the middle, sometimes changed at the end it all depends on us as writers, and every story has wisdom that can be taken as a lesson. 28. Hair grows on its own, heart beats on its own, blood flows on its own, ideas emerge on its own, etc., are we involved ??. 29. Imagine today there was an event that caused only you to live in this world, then who are all the people yesterday ??. 30. "If Quantum Mechanism cannot surprise you, then you do not yet understand Quantum Physics. Everything we have considered real all this time, turns out to be unreal." ~ Niels Bohr. 31. In the scale of quantum physics we are all connected to each other, even in double gap experiments proving that particles change when observed or in other words awareness is able to change reality, this has been repeatedly proven by Nobel laureate in Physics. 32. Everything we experience by our senses will eventually only be an electrical impulse in the brain, is it all real ??. We are beings who realize that we are conscious. 33. We are closer than the veins of his neck. He breathes some of His spirit on you. Knowing oneself means knowing one's God. Indeed, we will return to HIM. You are far I am far, you are near I am near. I am everywhere. Before the existence of this world there was no material other than Him. The True Spirit is only One, the Creator. I agree with your prejudice. 34. Whether the Creator is only tasked with creating, is it possible that the creator does not want to try the results of his creation through another perspective. 35. There is no reincarnation, it is possible that our consciousness is synchronizing, our consciousness is divided by the speed of light so that consciousness can move and divide quickly through energy, and that is why we need sleep, that is why we often do not realize something, that is why the size of the earth is reached by the speed of light so that consciousness is divided quickly and evenly, we are like some chess pawns played by a player, that is why if we move at the speed of light, then we can penetrate the dimensions of space and time, when we die we wake up and regain consciousness as long as there are human beings living in this world. 36. Have we ever had a problem and suddenly someone came to provide a solution to the problem we are experiencing, as if someone was sent by the universe to help us in solving the problem, which is actually our own awareness that sends that person to us. 37. A thousand years ago did human beings see, hear and be trapped in their hearts about current technological advances ??. If we all tend to sin (damage) then it will be the world of hell, if we all tend to do good then it will be the world of heaven. 38. Knowledge learns objects, God who created our consciousness, does not allow God to be objects of knowledge. 39. It is not possible for human creation which is only in the form of words / symbols to represent true truth.uyty 40. Is there a meaning of being without consciousness ?? then we are adventurers of this existence. Sy 41. The life of the world is just a game and a joke, the one who wins the game of the world is the one who finds his true self. 42. When the existence of the world ends we will know everything. 43. My consciousness undergoes a very extraordinary life experience, feeling life experience with different forms and different places even though in fact my consciousness is always the same, wow .. I was surprised !! how wide I am. 44. Consciousness in fact does not know the concept of time, consciousness can experience / undergo into another physical form because the dimension of time can be penetrated by consciousness, as when we imagine we can act as anyone without time bound, because in this universe time can in fact materialize free, time can move straight, curved, rotate, etc. Our time travel is when our consciousness moves to a new physical experience. 45. We are an awareness, a concept that is able to answer various things. 46. ​​Remember when you were going to leave, you were worried about losing me ??, calm down .. I was everywhere and we would always be able to meet again, believe me. 47. Without searching what is the difference between us in this world and us in a dream while sleeping just passing by without meaning 48. In conclusion, whatever role we play, it is all our own design, so just enjoy. 49. I never said that self is God, I thought that self is one consciousness, God should be higher and perfect than consciousness. 50. God created us to be Happy, so do not disappoint God. Understand it and be Shining. Source of inspiration : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LtT8pWIYL4Q.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-h6fcK_fRYaI.html

Bartender, 'I'll have a double dualism, please!"...

I think they each need to define what they considered as consciousnesses. Each seems to be slightly different

When, when, when is Kuhn going to interview Bernardo Kastrup about Idealism? Kuhn's failure to do so to date is ...well, a real failure. At some point, this failure will be more evidence of just how pathetically close-minded (and tribal) even the most allegedly open-minded seekers are.

It baffles me how ancient India delved into such issues even 8000 years ago. Samkhya and Advait are both so profound.

only substance dualism makes sense. We should conceive a scientific soul that is interacting with physical matter of our body and brain. I have tried this in my book- consciousness explained scientifically by substance dualism: demonstrates the existence of the soul and God. This clearly tells that we can conceive a scientific soul.

Interview Leo gura, he's got some profound opinions

One thing is sure: Empirical science cannot explain everything.....

self consciousness is the biggest smoke and mirror trick since the beginning of time.

Water can be a solid, liquid and a gas. Consciousness can be physical solid, spiritual and ethereal.

It's a very nice channel shedding light on many fundamental questions,I love it.

No, but idealism can.

Your elegance is so elegantly elegant.

I've watched so much of these shows and all I know for certain is one plus one equals two. Everything else is a theory of more or less merit.

Language is playing a vital role in the confusion around conciousness. Saying its an ilusion is insane, its nonsensical. But it doesn't seem insane if you understand the term differently. What is consciousness? is this a bad question? is it like asking why are we alive or why can't we divide by zero? the language is confusing. The idea that I find causes the most problems for me, is the idea of the "self" the idea of the observer, the eye of consciousness. the feeling that you are behind your eyes, making decisions and judgements. telling yourself a story about who you are, what you should do in the future and what you shouldn't have done in the past. Without the idea of the self, the problem of consciousness seems less confusing. A mystery nonetheless but a lot clearer. What do you guys think? am I missing something?

There is one honest answer: W.E.D.O.N.T.K.N.O.W...

I think the spirit or soul resides in a different form of reality.. we are only aware of one but there may be several levels of reality.

"Illusion" in spiritual traditions is not that what we have around us is not real. It is the fact that "our truth or reality" is not in this temporal reality. It is amusing to see people dismissing the concept of "illusion" in spiritual traditions as being an attribute of temporal reality.

One thing that thus far is not being distinguished is the difference between consciousness of objects of which material reality is understood and undifferentiated states of consciousness wherein mind and body are known as One. Our narrative here is great yet we need to study the terrain of undifferentiated states while being disinterested in objects knows the universe as a whole and within which our fullest relationships with the world are perceived and acted through.

I think that physical and natural science will eventually answer what constitutes consciousness, where it comes from, & what it can be used for.

3:21 Sir, You may want to understand Sri Madhwacharya in the true dual (Dvaita) thesis is. I am happy to speak to you about this concept.

There is consciousness and then there is Consciousness.

18:45 'Does it make demands on anything outside the natural world?' But the natural world is only available to us through five senses. How can we be sure ALL that the natural world actually is? What if we had another one or two senses? What if consciousness IS another one of our senses? The five senses would tell us about the 'natural' world; consiousness being the sense that allows us to experience our Selves.

We know now about the illusion of conscious decision making. That our brain makes decisions much faster than we can rationalize it and communicates to our frontal cortex, which then rationalizes the decision. What if consciousness is just the same? Just the frontal cortex rationalizing the sensory data collected by the rest of your body, together with your memory. Just a story generated by your brain to facilitate the processing of all this data. Then it looks so much like the "front end" of software. The UI elements making it easier for the complex funcionality to interact with external stimulii. Not saying I'm right, but I have this feeling sometimes, that its not the physical or spiritual worlds that are illusions, but consciousness itself. But who knows.

Buddhism makes the very clear point that you can't measure the mind with the mind. This insight comes from people who have meditated deeply.

Appears begs the question. Without consciousness nothing appears.

Dualism is always secretly unity in disguise of separation. When all is one and connected, separation is an illusion. Nothing is truly separate as all is of the one monad mind. Duality is a fallacy. We do not live in a physical reality; physical reality is an illusion that lives within you. Your thoughts, words, and actions co-create your own reality. Sending love to the great ALL disguised as many however, through singularity consciousness we are all truly ONE. There is no we or us just one consciousness within all, on different levels of conscious awareness. ONE

Dualism is the only vehicle which can somewhat explain conciousness

Sadly, nobody understands consciousness, but I must admit it is very interesting. Animals with senses, such as vision, must be conscious of their environment. Consciousness has obvious evolutionary benefits.

My instincts are to find irreconcilable the ideas that science can't explain everything and that consciousness is just an iterative milestone on the path of evolution. It feels like if you accept the latter, you reject the former. Accepting both seems reductive toward the mystery consciousness still presents us, as if whatever exists outside of it - which couldn't be explained by science - has no relationship to consciousness. How could it not?

8:42 - YES. Thank you. It is crazy. Yes, I'm looking at you, Daniel Dennett.

Process is emergent. Conciousness is emergent. Different from brain, as phases is different to h2o. But dependent on matter, energy, and process. Emergent quality is due to process..interactions.

Like a great philosopher once said "we are here just because"

Sounds like he is getting closer to truth!

Nothing can explain consciousness, this is a non question.

Richard's brain example falls flat due to the obvious: when he says, "I must be something more than my brain," he overlooks the very obvious elephant in the room and that is his BODY. Obviously, part of what makes us ourselves is our physical likeness. It is the combination that creates identity and is most regarded; for if Richards close friends were to observe another body that had his brain, they would almost certainly say, "That's Richard, but in another body !" And likewise, if some spell had come over Richard's body, they would similarly observe of their newly possessed friend, "that's Richard, but someone else has taken over !". It is the familiarity of both someone's mind as well as their body that creates identity, and this includes concepts of mind that are purely physically based.

The universe is BOTH physical and non-physical at the same time. Truth is a paradox but with understanding this seeming conflict of opposing views can be appreciated as two poles of Truth operating on different sides of the same spectrum.

An extended structuralism takes care of all areas, layers, theories, perspectives, in context (and within their limits), often interlinked and translatable into each other. Many academics who are not proponents of a SINGLE model adopt some sort of model like that, which can also be deemed a standard model of academic rationality and openmindedness (often just tacit or implicit).

Unbelievably amazing

Consciousness is eternal and permanent . Material is real but temporary

I like the honesty of Jaron Lanier... To claim any certainty that Physicalism or Idealism or Dualism is right, with, IMO, spurious arguments, is really only guessing. We must walk the tightrope between superstition and unjustified reductionism. Personally, I neither want to exist as me forever, nor be totally extinguished. Both seem to suffer our Western bias of Individualism.. I therefore hope for a more holistic and relational ontology where my identity which is physical, ceases to exist, but consciousness (which is what I think I really am at root) dissolves into a universal consciousness that is constantly being manifested. It makes me a part of everything sentient. However, maybe all that matters is what ontology helps you to live a better life.

Whereas 'dualism" is a principle of local time/space, Singularity, is the "seat" of all Consciousness. This, is what the pineal gland is for... to receive from Singularity, whereby Consciousness is diffused into duality - left/right brain hemispheres etc., for the experiential process.

Is it possible that our strong survival instinct creates an idea that there's a part of ourselves that is not physical. It will not die (our 'spirit'). And that illusion is created in response to our inability to accept our mortality, or even more, the refusal to accept impermanence. Could it be a fear response?