Can Gran Turismo 7 Compare vs iRacing & Assetto Corsa Competizione? 

These are a all "games". Professional drivers all say the same thing. Each have a different "driving philosophy" and reward a punished different things. I feel like GT is the only game to where the "weight" of the car means anything. I like AC and ACC but like he said in the video, you can't always tell what the car is doing. I haven't played Iracing in years but it seemed like it was trying to make you feel like you could be a racecar driver instead of "you suck.." like GT and AC.

I feel like iRacing is very realistic in some aspects while ACC are very realistic in different aspects. iRacing has god tier crash physics and the way the car moves from the outside looks realistic as fuck. Meanwhile ACC has amazing force feedback and great weather simulation, but both are similar in that they both have laser scanned tracks and a competitive multiplayer system.

Thanks for the answers, I'm genuinely interested in people's POV...

iRacing because the tyre model (too old).

rFactor 2 is the closest experience ive had to irl in a while, iRacing is very good too along w ACC meanwhile AC feels lacking in all areas (all on CSL DD since last year, sim racing for 7 years)

I got my fanatec gt dd a couple months ago. I know exactly what you mean. I told my wife last year I guess im getting old cause games aren’t fun anymore. That was until this hobby found its way into my life. It’s amazing how much there is to learn. Games in general have been dumbed down. Kinda like the current culture of rejects ruining everything that was once enjoyable.

It's not a game. It's a sim

@@InsertYourself1 same thing

@@jozixl8808 ahh so I guess F1 drivers PLAY GAMES when practicing for a race

@@InsertYourself1 Dude who cares what it is. Is that even relevant to this comment? No.

Ye this is the key. I wish I could just pick up ACC and jump into a daily race. However the online races on GT7 have so many idiots in it that I've rage quit many times due to being taken out in races.

@@cobyjim you can. Just race on leagues like lfm but you will need a PC. Acc on consoles is just garbage .

acc feels so repetitive after a while

@@dvino01 does every game doesn't it. Sorry but a season of GT3 racing is a repetitive thing every season. The most tracks stay the same. That's racing business. 🤷

@@aqulex84 yeah that’s IRL.. irl tends to be a bit more.... immersive 🤪

That last sentence sums it up. I totally agree.

So acc in ps5 is not even close to acc in pc? So you think its not worth to get on ps5 if you already have gt7?

@@Jmab-rv7jc i just deleted gt7 ans focused on acc (ps5). Dont think about it, just do it.

@@Jmab-rv7jc I've moved from 7 to Acc on ps5. It's just so much better.

Me too. Just moved from GT7 to ACC. I do feel graphics aren't as good but the sim effect is superior. Just my 2 cents.

It's not even remotely a sim so stop calling it that. It's called a simcade for a reason.

@@Delimon007 lol bro stop being so hurt lol

@@BA-rh5hy is he wrong?

@@aidenless3479 does it matter?

@@Delimon007 I think by now it has enough sim features to be classified as a sim. And it's even better in many physics models than some "hard-core sim racing games". It's just that iRacing and ACC are even more sim focussed. And GT can never be on the same level for several reason; 1) GT engine runs several different types of cars, while the "hard-core" sims only run GT3 cars pretty much. This means the engine can focus on that category of car, while GT7 has to find a middle ground to accommodate a 100bhp family hatchback..and F1 cars, Gr.1 cars and GT3 cars aswell as rally cars, classic muscle cars, supersaloons, trucks and a go kart. (Have I missed anything out?) So there'll always be a compromise. 2) GT7 is held back by PS4. Other "hardcore" sims aren't even on the console market except ACC which was literally released a matter of weeks ago. 3) GT7 will always put controller first as that's where the target market is. So the driving dynamics is catered for the heavily limited controller. It also ensures fairness when controller users play wheel users. Since wheel users get more feel/FFB and all those goodies..it makes it easier to judge steering/braking/understeer/oversteer etc. Moreover it's easier for fine tune movements and corrections on a 32inch wheel using 2 hands and entire arm...as oppose to half an inch stick using the thumb tip only. 4)ACC and I Racing been out for several years and the updates are pretty much polished the game off. GT7 is new therefore has a lot to work on in terms of physics updates. 5) hate to say this..but GT7 cares more about graphics fidelity, and some crazy whacky museum history lesson on the automotive industry, aswell as taking photoscape pictures and worrying about how the sunlight and stars look...more than the physics models. This is GT's USP that other sim competitors are still trailing on by quite a margin. Which is still impressive.. considering GT7 is limited by PS4

I started the same as you. Now playing iRacing in VR is a mind blowing experience compared to those early years!

"Old" guy here too. My first racing game was Pole Position. I was into Gran Turismo in high school, then fell away from games for a while. I got back into GT when GT Sport came out on PS4. Ended up buying a G29 and had a lot of fun. Then I started seeing guys running VR on youtube and thought it looked so cool. Long story short, I now race in VR in weekly leagues on a fairly high end rig. Dove right down the rabbit hole. LOL! But after 4 years, it still impresses me. As a kid I never thought games would get to this level of realism and immersion. If it's overcast when I'm racing, and the sun suddenly comes out, I would swear I feel the warmth on my skin. It's amazing how easily the brain it tricked.

@@angryginger791 very cool!! Awesome stuff, brother.

Grand Prix was a simcade, Night Driver was where it was at ;)

I agree every update keeps getting better and. Better

And, if you want to get into sim-racing, and if you already have a PS5 and GT7 you don’t have to buy a Pc (my case).

He's also running TC with iRacing and ACC 😂

TC and ABS are almost universally used in GT3 racing lol@@mrebear9758

5 torq 10 sens for me

iRacing isn't complex lol. you are legitimizing controller play, ps controller at that, to play a racing game so you can't be bothered with non arcade games.

dont even attempt iRacing on controller please

Yeah so you just want arcade racing lol

@@AJS86 gt7 is NOT an arcade game, not even in the slightest

what does ac and iracing focus on? 🤣

@@SSmallwood acc would be the gt3 cars. Iracing is race cars specifically.

You do realize that AC literally does that better and is moddable right?!?!?

@@Delimon007 yeah but for console plebs... gt is the best we have.

@@dogwithbees True that, no mods on console, sadge :(

The real life GTs only have diff pre load adjustment

@@AJS86 Is it only preload in GT7 as well?

@@evaneffertz16 no you can buy fully customisable in it

When i was playing gt7 it was very much just chucking the car into the corner with some slip angle then touching the gas or brake just rotates the car one way or the other, it was unnatural feeling but I kept running into it. Mid corner "control" was bizarre because you weren't driving the car you were finessing the game itself because it wasn't quite right.

​​@@AJS86not true though? GT3 cars definetly can adjust differentials if memory serves me right, it's just that some series regulations limit it to preload, which is why ACC doesn't let you as it follows Blancpain / SRO GTWC, but it's not a factory limitation as far as I know, and should be a thing in other series

Try iracing and their online ranking system.

I can’t agree more but the difficulty is why I love it

Exact reason I've walked from GT7.

Not anymore after the 1.13 update.

Isn't snap oversteer normal on slick tires? It happens to me often in Assetto Corsa

Ya this issue was patched over a month ago now 🤷🏻‍♂️

The cars feel and sound like living beasts in ACC. It's genuinely different from any other sim I've ever driven. Not my favourite to actually drive (that's AMS2), but the sense that you're actually in a 1200kg car with a roaring engine and constantly moving suspension is just unrivalled. And that's with a cheap setup; G29 and a 1080p monitor with desktop speakers. I thought the other sims would feel more real if I had better gear, turns out they're just lacking.

@@ChrisStoneinator I can concur that it isn't actually my favorite sim to race in. But when I want GT3 it is the best. But I'm currently committing blasphemy and loving the new Forza Horizon 5 Hot Wheels DLC 😆

On the other hand, it's also why it's a bit of a shame but I'll never get into ACC. I don't like GT3s, or GT4s, I did like GT1s when those were a thing but yeah. Really respect what ACC did, shame it's on a motorsport discipline that bores me

@@ElShogoso 100% agree. I'm fortunate that GT is my favorite class of racing. But even then, ACC doesn't cover my favorite class of GT racing. I'll be curious to see how their Assetto Corsa 2 will be now that we know that will be their next project. I personally still love to play AC but it is definitely in need of a refresh. Depending on how great it's physics and graphics are, it could be a real contender to be labeled as the "best" sim.

I do some trackday with car wich are close to race car. I play Iracing a long but ACC give me also more realistic feedback Imo. For the competitive race against other real drivers i suggest you to try LFM 👍

Have you guys tried gt7, if so is it worth the price difference to the ACC?

@@JoseMorales-vq5fu no, haven’t tried it - I just race in PC platform.

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We're in more places than you think 🇿🇦

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In ACC if you press F7 you can move the camera to any position you want

@@tharsgaard663 Its fixed to the cars body movement and so it lets the car not move freely.

Being hard to drive doesn't make it realistic, its depiction of that ferrari is awful lol.

Farming Simulator games all have a mod community even for console players. It is possible for consoles but maybe not with all games?

As good as ACC looks, it can defenitely have better physics

This made me laugh 😂😂😂

So are there better alternatives that are still games with FFB? Or are you talking about real simulations used by engineers and that common plebs don't have access to?

@@shivamarya5225 sometimes it's best just to keep things simple though.

@@ricardoamendoeira3800 yes

Don´t play rfactor 2, it´s the real exploit simulator

@@leruty oh is it? I've only ever seen SIM racers talk about it. Maybe I'll steer clear.

I think wind is simulated in ACC

@@karhu07 Wind speed, and wind direction are shown in ACC. Whenever during racing, you just need to press TAB, and look up the right corner of the screen you will see it.

iRacing also has wind

iRacing does have wind, that's why you look at the splits happening in your session and not the "best" splits ever.

For what system, PS5 or PS4 pro?

@@IbanezShreds67 ps5, but is there a significant difference?

@@re5remake447 Not really, a little more realism in GT7, but there all good if you ask me. I'd take either one of em if I didn't have a choice. If I have my choice, I'll take Gran Turismo 7.

I can give some insight to this one. I played GT7 with a G29 when it first came out and now I have a Fanatec GT DD. Honestly, the Fanatec wheel is wasted on GT7 because the ffb in that game is extremely vague and not at all detailed. You don’t really reap the benefits of having a direct drive. The Fanatec feels absolutely fantastic on the PC sims though, so it was still worth upgrading from the G29 in my case

@@danwmusic3447 Apparently, anecdotally at least, the Thrustmaster is the wheel to have for GT7 . I also use a G29

@@strophish I bought a G29 for GT7 and find it quite underwhelming. The last GT game I played was GT5 using an old cheapo Logitech Driving Force and even that was more satisfying. Had far more weight and substance to the feedback.

@@SquinkyThreepwood I like mine as I have nothing to compare it to and the last racing game I really played was GT2. Needless to say, I am quite slow 😂

@@danwmusic3447 I've been playing GT7 with the G29 and have been looking to upgrade to the DD Pro. I don't play a lot of ACC on PS5 and i don't sim race on PC so perhaps i'm wasting my money by upgrading?

Well said.... 100% agree... ACC is where it's at... It's difficult in comparison but so much more rewarding and lifelike

AMS2 is getting up there with AC for me in terms of a quick race sim that you can hop into and race against AI. Still play AC more just because of all the mods giving it basically an unlimited number of track and car combos. Would definitely play AMS2 more if they came out with more modern GT3s and LMPs which is what I primarily like to drive.

the iRacing car is actually a 488 GT3

For starters, that car is NOT a "she". Fix your gear ratios

@@shen-long9082 All cars are female, and I don't see how her gear ratios have anything to do with handling. It isn't snap oversteer on throttle, just sometimes she decides to murder me for seemingly no reason even when not on either throttle or brake.

Dude he’s trying to go flat out with no traction control down hill banking to the left it’s not the games fault

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@台女短熱褲街拍 lol, you must be joking. Gt only has raytracing in replays and looks like ass most of the time. Hell, Forza Horizon 5 on my Xbox one S looks better that GT7 on ps5. Now I'm not saying it's not a good game. I just don't lie about dumb things on the internet. Clearly your feelings are hurt a game other than the one you play may have better features. That's some weak shit right there. Edit: it's funny, I've seen other comments by you here and all you do is lie and crap on every other game. You are 100% a Sony Pony fanboy, hahahah.

@@dre_k0 I would agree past Forza motorsports I would classify as Simcad at best but the upcoming forza motorsport is a ground up rebuild carrying nothing over from the previous games, all info points to a far more sim direction for the game

I'll believe it when I play it. If they decide to release on Xbox One you can say goodbye to much of this stuff. Also the Forza community doesn't really want a highly realistic game.

@@nightdriver7216 we’ll find out in a week at the Xbox showcase but I’m betting it’s Next gen and pc exclusive and much closer to a sim then previous forza Motorsport hence why they are rebooting and not calling it FM8

@@BOKtober They're gonna want that game running at 4K60 with higher detail than GT7 so there's not much room for realistic physics. I know Esaki promised a ton of stuff but ultimately I think FM engine will be just ForzaTech with a few tweaks. They have an ex-Papyrus guy in the team but it all depends on the game direction. When it comes to cars I think it's gonna have close to 1,000 but many of Forza's cars are really old 3D models which don't compare with other games.

A couple of IRL racing drivers said all the same thing: Driving in rain is just plain wrong. In ACC your car is tail happy like a happy dog. Drivers said this is wrong, rear of the car is much more planted but it's the front end that doesn't have any grip.

@@alpha007org this is why I’d like to see the comparison in the wet between the three. I’ve not played enough of ACC and never touched iracing so it’s something I’m interested in seeing how they all interpret the wet weather. With GT7 puddles suck you off the track, you lose the front when you brake and a load of other things it does but I’m to lazy to list.

@@OPPSIJUSTKILLEDU I raced in wet weather in ACC and AMS2. I like ACC more. But what I wanted to say it that all the "Big Sims" are unrealistic in wet. Both ACC and AMS2 have "the happy dog" implementation. You are struggling to keep the rear in check. This is where simpler physics of GT7 could produce more realistic wet weather driving. I don't know. But we all drive our cars when it's raining. Rear is planted but if you go a little too fast, you are unable to steer. No front end grip even with front end drive.

Iracing without an overhaul to their physics is still the number one sim.

@@Digital_504 This right here, iRacing had to improve due to AC and they did. Their SOLE problem right now are their cold tyre physics which are wacky as hell. Everything else is fine though to the T.

Iracing is way more forgiving then Acc. But sense of speed feels better in iracing. But then again Acc got best fbb hands down.

I agree, iRacing (GT3) is a lot more forgiving and easier than ACC. E.g. I could take Eau Rouge in iRacing with the Ferrari and AMG GT3 easily flat out and with one hand (just for testing purpose lol) while in ACC there is no way you can push a car to its limit with that kind of casual mindset LOL. But when it comes to being a competitive multiplayer Sim racing platfkrm experience, iRacing is still the best overall.

No, iRacing is only unforgiving on cold tyres, or if you have a bargain bin set up.

@@kOBR4onei have to disagree on this.. for me iracing ffb is miles ahead like daniel morad said also.. not with these words but he said it’s way better

I'd love to, but unfortunately I only own the regular (non-inverted) set!

@@Ermz could you ask fanatec to send you a pair. I want to know what you think of them.

Just be thankful I didn't use the R8 or Huracan!

@@Ermz LOL true that 🤣

5 torq 10 sens is what i have on that wheel, feels noooice

Because of engine torque braking. Strong engine torque causes disturbing the car when fully lift of the gas pedal. So with your technique, you're actually cancelling the engine braking out.

@@Mastermindthreethousand this actually helps me out a lot, will definitely help me setup and adjust my differentials in the future to accomodate for the engine brake snap, because my driving technique only works on more open tracks, anything more curvy than Spa I can't drive the same way

Hey You play acc on ps5? They got the update 1.8? Do you know that ?

How is ACC FFB on the PS5 compared to the PC version? Is the FFB really that much better on the PC version?

Real life gt4 has tc that works

Please dont give Sony any ideas. They’ll make us finance our micro-transactions😭😆

If you have the time, join a league. That's when ACC really gets good.

Agreed

na it depend on the cars there are still some cars that snap oversterr at least for me like allmost all porshe and ferrari f50 subaru 22b ext ext

Yeah, mostly gone. I was one of the few that liked it pre 1.13 update and often put it on TC1, like most sims with a little TC would be more consistent and faster. I had the throttle well balanced on the edge of traction. Now its always on TC0 apart from grid starts. Ideally it would be somewhere in between now and the previous update.

Project cars definitely isnt the best

Graphics noob

Do you think that the GT7 is better than ACC? Or worth the price difference?

@@JoseMorales-vq5fu ACC is a much better game in my opinion. It is more of a simulation. It just takes time to get used to.

interesting comment. I will look into this. Thanks!

You're talking about artificial g-force effects, but that's a different thing. "Gyroscopic forces" literally mean gyroscopic forces of rotating wheels. When the rear of your car starts to slide and therefore the whole car body starts to turn, these forces try to keep the wheels rotate in the same plane, they do push back on the steering rack and you should feel it on the wheel. These are real forces, they aren't fake.

Yeah, the TC and ABS are just on/off just like in Forza except at least in GT7 it's a setting you can change at any time while driving while in Forza it's a difficulty setting.