Can Haiti Be Saved, And Who Should Do it? 

The people of Haiti are the only ones who can solve this situation no outside country can fix things.

In 1987 i left the employ of the US government (USMC) in 2001 I was on the ground in Port au Prince to assist a team of missionaries to refurbish an orphanage, at that time, the Police were less professional than the police in Panama. Basically 1 guy with a uniform shirt a $1500 automatic rifle and grenades, 3 or 4 “deputies” without the uniform or rifle, but the deputies had machetes and clubs. That was the state of policing 23 years ago. The Palace only had electricity for part of the day, life was very hard for the everyday citizens. The kids in the orphanage had not been to the beach in 11 years, and the beach was 6 miles away.

The only way to save Haiti is to turn it into something a lot of people from Haiti would never accept. An actual functioning country.

I would kindly ask any of my fellow americans who feel the need for the government to help Haiti. Consider dropping everything you are doing, putting your money where your mouth is, moving there, and trying to change anything. Either you won't change it or you will prove that the government could have never done it. And I'll guarantee you by the end of it if it were successful you would never give an iota of thought to liberalism/wokeism

The population must be able to govern themselves, and that’s not going to happen in Haiti.

Sure it can. You better believe China would love to step in, stabilize, and build a Navy base, military airport ect.

Best segway yet cannibalism into good ranchers

Haiti had a slave uprising and they fought the french. A slave leader became king and the french left them alone and abondoned the island.that was how vicious the uprising was. That was late 1700s early 1800s. So this is not colonial. The people in charge got to positions of power and were so corrupt they became despots. As a result the population got stuffed. The only way to survive was as part of gangs.

My man, that ad transit deserves an Oscar. Bravo. 👏 @ 29:50

Best thing we can do is leave Haiti to Haiti, it's not our business or our responsibility.

Having worked in Haiti since 1998 I have seen it all as you reported. Your assessment is spot on save for one item. Real Estate is expensive. The diaspora refuse to sell cheaply and equally have seen it all. Rulers come and go so they wait and sell high. That aside your thoughts on US aid and how it is ineffective is absolutely correct. One has to only examine Bill Clinton’s aid package where he sent USAID rice into Haiti. “Free” rice destroyed the rice farming.

Move the U.N. to Haiti. When they fix Haiti, I will start listening to them.

I was an Army Officer stationed in GITMO and other Caribbean locations during the mid-ish 1990's. The whole Cuban migrant issue which also included Haiti. I also had 2 combat tours in Somalia. My conclusion was the same as I had in Somalia. It was simply that they needed 50 more years of social evolution to bring them into the modern era. Like so many other cultures, to force it externally doesn't work out so well.

The next Haiti, San Francisco, New York, Portland, Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, LA, Denver, Oakland, Baltimore.....

We waste enough time, money, and most importantly, human lives in countries we have no reason to be interfering with

There is a deeper issue lurking beneath all this talking, But we are not ready for that conversation.

Also I will add this here "You cannot help those who cannot or refuse to help themselves."

Maybe it can be, but it should not be the United States that does it. We have literally stepped in over half a dozen time in the last 120 years. And every time is completely pointless.

Great job on Timcast the other day!

The US has rebuilt Haiti two major times and we have sent aid several times. Our representatives who makes these decisions don't expect any accountability for our tax dollars. We send money and it's like giving it to a sixteen year old and not a responsible adult.

Understanding history is a blessing and allows a clear path for the future.

Gentlemen, please tell me, at some point in time that Nick, you’ll run for Presidency and Christian will be in The Cabinet, or Speaker of the House.

Wakanda should save Haiti No more us money

Short answer, no. Long answer, also no. Second question. Haiti should.

You or any other person can go personally to Haiti and try to fight the evil there. Our government absolutely should not send troops

Excellent discussion

A politician visited a village in Haiti after a devastating hurricane. Upon arrival, he asked what their needs were. “We have 2 basic needs, sir,” replied the villager. “Firstly, we have a hospital, but there's no doctor.” On hearing this, the politician whipped out his phone, and after speaking for a while, he reassured the village leader that the doctor would be there the next day. He then asked about the second problem. "Secondly, sir, there is no cell phone coverage anywhere in the village.”

It is good that you think about this tragic situation. I hope you have an idea that is useful and get implemented. Thanks for caring.

Great information.

imho, there is a night and day comparison between Dominican Republic and Haiti. Same island. My last visit (dec 2023) in DR, was good.

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I've wanted you to discuss Haiti for a while , Nick.

By the way; Christian; getting your Masters in UK..... that was a TOTAL Paul Allen move.... you ROCK

Not to forget Nick, the living embodiment of the Punisher.... I LOVE you, Frietas; you RULE

It comes down to motivation and a fantastic work ethic

Every episode is so deep and interesting

Beautiful maps. Your show's quality has massively increased.

Just let the people have the country.

Personally I think Haitians should save themselves but since they apparently haven't been able to for nearly 200 years now you aren't gonna like how I would go about saving them. It would involve what is commonly called human rights violations against the gangs and cannibals.

Nick! that segway into Good Ranchers! the savagery!!! perfectly epic dude!

Haiti is nothing more than an interesting preview of Mexico plus 100 years.

Extremely interesting!

I watched a short got a good laugh and now I’m a new friend

I just watched the Real Life Lore video on Haiti. I'm now prepared to see your prediction for what's next!

Christian is such an essential part of this show.

One correction. Great Britain granted independence to the Federation of Malaysia. Singapore was spun off of Malaysia about five years later. The major concern of the Singapore government was Malaysia's week protection of the rights of the Hokkien majority on Singapore.

I have watched Haiti since before Baby Doc. I don’t know what the answer is for them, but, I do know that I do not want my country’s resources used to try to “fix” the unfixable. One thing I would find intolerable would be bringing ANY Haitians to this country. We are overwhelmed with chaos and lawlessness. My heart bleeds for the good people trapped there, but,no, no Haitians.

That was an awesome Segway to Good Ranchers

I'd love to think that you're right about the concept of going in and holding for a generation to help teach the new generation how to handle things. The problem I see with it is everywhere we've tried, it's failed. The most recent example would be Afghanistan. Granted that was because of politicians mishandling the people, but that seems to be a trend amongst human history

Christian Hines.... is absolutely goddamn right, in all seriousness

Haiti must save itself and they must provide their own security and create town states until they can unify. Or don't.

That was a funny lead-in for your sales pitch on meat 😂😅

We have had missionaries helping them for so long but it always devolves back into chaos. I’ve been there and spent two weeks where every day was just adding a band aide on a gunshot wound

That was one hell of a smooth transition from the show to the advertiser spot. 😂

Dominican here, honestly we have zero hate for our neighbors but we're just tired of the big countries trying to pin the haitian solution to 9ir budget. Our public Healthcare it's being overwhelmed by them receiving care without paying any taxes. At one point they gotta take responsibility of all the problems they had due to their lack of education and any sort of planning. When over half the population lacks a birth certificate there's no possible way to plan anything when you're not even sure how many citizens you have, it became evident after the earthquake that showed there's loads of casualties that don't have any kind of ID. It's sad but they went from a country to a tribal land.

lEFT WING COPE..... YES.... that just happened..... so brutally blunt and accurate 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣YES

The cannibalism to Good Ranchers segway was the best part of this whole episode.

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@1:55 minute mark... Nick Freitas, you and your wife remind me of Boaz and Ruth from the bible. You're family must be so amazing! And King Jesus was their grandson! *swoon* How beautiful!

If an intervention ends in less than 50 years, it would be a wasted effort like Afghanistan was.

Today were gonna talk to you about cannibalism brought to you by good ranchers lol. Not sure thats the kind of sponsor spot they were looking for.

France. That is who should have to fix Haiti.

We gonna solve Haiti like we solved Afghanistan? 🙄 Haitians need to solve Haiti. If the people there are not cohesive enough to get their shit together, than any outside intervention is not going to stick.

Haiti was built on blood running through the streets like water. It has been an intractable problem since its' inception. Eventually things get so bad that an outside power swoops in to try to impose order, not for the Haitian's sake - but because their dysfunction affects so many neighboring areas. For over two centuries now, Haiti has been dysfunctional at best, an absolute failure at worst. Billions of dollars in equipment, aid, training, foodstuffs, materials. Millions of hours of charity work and volunteers. And with an ever present, outstretched hand demanding more, more, more, more, more. Haiti will never be a success. The only people who believe otherwise are champagne socialists and billionaire celebrities that can afford to take beautiful pictures from the large, luxurious, and very well-guarded resorts. And have never seen the mountains of garbage and violence. These people cannot be governed with anything but an iron fist and the ever-present threat of force, which they will resent. No outside power wants to take on that burden. They cannot be left to their own devices or things get so horrific that disease, butchery and starvation runs absolutely rampant and a perpetual humanitarian crisis. A bottomless pit for foreign aid to be squandered into.

I am Haitian and I think we should stop putting forward this debt literature because it makes us resilient and defeatist as if it were an insurmountable damage. We must look to the future. The past matters but it's the past

😂😂 some of these transitions for goodranchers

We need to stay out of it. Fix our own first and then help if we can.

Comparison of how bad it is. In 2006, Afghanistan held open and fair democratic elections while still fighting the Taliban. Hati can't in 2024?!

😂🎉 Saw it at the beginning, that seque to the sponsor spot. The only criticism I have is change the promo code to green.

Im drunk; Im just breakn' balls. I absolutely love you guys.

Hey, didn’t Paradise, California burn down a few years ago?

In my locale, we've got issues with out of state, and probably multinational developers, gentrifying and blighting the whole countryside. It is displacing good people who lived and worked hard here for generations. There must be a way to direct those investors and developers to Haiti where it might actually improve a place, rather than turn beautiful places into toxic parking lots and lousy jobs. Getting people to really blossom out of squalor and poverty is the hard problem I think.

And today we're talking about cannibalism... And onto our sponsors good ranchers

It's not our burden.

Ahh, just in time for my lunch break.

Wakanda forever

Haiti is not our problem.

With my dark sense of humor, that good ranchers transition was epic. 😆

42:25 mins... there you have it summed up in 1 sentence.

This is a rhetorical question!!!!!! Why does this sound like the current declining situation in the United States?

Awesome lead into the sponsor 😂

Beware of Christian Hines..... Paul Allen has a better business card and has reservations to Dorsia.... Christian is currently purchasing a raincoat and a Hewy Louis album at Wallmert.......

Looking at America's track record of helping people, I'd say no. What would worse look like if we get involved?

33:46 an AnCom utopia…?

Wiki = a good place to start as long as we remember to go the listed sources and read those before deciding on the efficacy of the wiki article Rick's friend needs to restudy Germany after the Versailles treaty - Germany never repaid their debt as initially figured, and they were finally forgiven the vast unpaid balance, which was greater by double what they did pay. I'm thinking he didn't mention that because that may be too much info for a video blogcast

No and no one.

New main quest unlocked: build a big enough company I can afford to take over Haiti and create a trustworthy government

If you're thinking about cleaning it up.... Might I suggest a better mouse trap?

There is exactly one way to solve it. The ancients knew.

We will do good to save ourselves

No, just let it go.

Interesting discussion. Especially as I am in Haiti at the moment. I'm in a safe part of the country away from Port au Prince. I'm working at a little clinic. Nevermind me. Several thoughts. First, slavery on the island was awful far beyond what happened in the American south for example. The Haitians are justifiably proud of throwing out the French. Spin it however you want but there is no denying the French indemnity hamstrung Haitian development. Also the French did deforest Haiti. Their camps are still here in the mountains. They sent in logging teams to log the mountains to "collect the remainder of the debt". Again, don't believe me? I can show you the camps. The Haitians would love the fix to be a Haitian solution. IMO the Haitians do not have the strength to get rid of the gangs. The gangs are currently destroying Port. They say the are fighting the elite. But that is a clear lie. The problem with letting it be a Haitian solution is hundreds of thousands will starve long before that happens. The only role I see for a foreign intervention would be to secure the ports, airports, and roads. After that the Haitian police and military needs to be rebuilt. I repeat, I don't think the Haitians can do that. At least not without hundreds of thousands starving with no were to go and no options. Not all these people are savage cannibals deserving of their fate. Most are good people trying to survive. 10 years ago things were finally starting to look up, but the gangs who were controlled by the Haitian elite. The problem now is that the gangs have slipped their leash.

"Cannibalism leaves a bad taste in my mouth"

The only way it would work is for Haiti to become a colony/territory, of another country

No, it cannot. The French should try

Man, what a segway to the Good Ranchers commercial! I thought you were going to say they have 100% American-sourced human meat😂

Not the United States. We’ve bailed out enough people.

Haiti needs more people, we have too many, easy solution.

If you read the history, I vote for the French fixing it. They messed it up with onerous debt payments for many years.

Papa Doc Duvalier is pronounced Doo Val Yay.