Can Low Tier Killers Actually Beat A PRO Team? 

What experiment would you like to see next?

Thanks for inviting us Spooky! GGs

"they want me to go to main" 20 seconds later i guess i have to chase him to main ... instantly looses 3 gen

As someone who frequently plays killer, this video had me stressed out to the max 😂 Still entertaining, but if this were me, i would have gotten frustrated lmao

The plays laser had on the legion gamer were nuts there’s a reason teams like this do so well it’s the synergy they have with each other and the game sense it’s crazy

I think that vault has been broken for a while. sometimes that tile spawns in a way that makes it impossible to vault.

When you entered Midwich Elementary as Myers, I just imagined you taking scratched mirror against that pro team lol I chuckled at the thought. That is truly the ultimate counter to these teams, they expect you to go all-meta but they will never see such a strategy coming

As a pig main, here are two tips for her 1.) she isnt aggressive, dont go on long chases. Injuring survivors is enough in 5 gens. 2.) put a headtrap on survivors in your second down. You need to save her traps for mid game.

11:25 this is the reason why I rarely play killer. Those moments can make or break. I can't tell how many times I've been screwed by that. I'm sure killer mains know the struggle.

This video is basically the answer to the question “why do killers camp & tunnel.” Unless you’re facing a noob squad or a team that’s throwing, most killer matches feel like this to me.

As a Myers enthusiast, i have to say that you can make Tombstone Piece work better by not using it all the chance you get. If the survivors don't know, let them make a mistake or fake not having it. If they know you have, just be pacient. There WILL BE a opportunity to Mori. You can Pop it and insta Mori, so, if they are on open area, garanteed kill, if not, just don't bother. Hope it helps :D

Sometimes I hate to play as killer because in order to win against same skill level player, I have to play like an 'asshole'. So either your lose and get disrespected, tie and get flamed for being an 'asshole', or win and still get flamed for being an 'asshole'. I still haven't seen a survivor who understand why a killer have to camp with 1 gen or 0 gen left when he only has less than 2 hooks to secure a kill.

This is unfortunately why low-tier killers are just so bad to play as, combine that with bad map RNG and you will most likely not have a good time

When more than half of the killer roster can't keep up with coordinated teams, it really highlights the glaring issues of the game. These killers struggle to get a down, so hooking based slowdown perks (which are very few BTW) are simply not viable. Instead of balancing the maps, BHVR just completely gutted the kick-based slowdowns while leaving the bottom tier killers in limbo.

Seeing these live was super cool! The deliverance play was actually insane

Survivors open traps on second attempt. Me in solo Q, five attempts later, can't get the damn thing open.

I’d love to see more tests like this with people who have thousands of hours on these killers. Because I see the argument of ‘but nurse has 400+ winstreak so obviously killer is OP and easy’ yet I never see anyone say the same about Trapper or Ghostie. It’s very interesting to me just how strong survivor can be ^^

As a trapper main, I feel your pain.

Ooh this is interesting actually, I never see killers that are seen as weak used against really good teams, I wonder if it's even possible to win as them if a team knows what they are doing. Guess I'll find out now lol. Great video and idea Spooky!

For knowing how good spooky is and seeing what good survivors can do. And we still have people complaining that the game leans towards sides.

i would sorta like to see some of these matches unedited. because it feels like he commits harder to some chases than i would expect, and i would love to see more of what he might have seen to lead to that decision.

I cant get enough of Myers and trapper gameplay. With Dredge my favorites to watch i dont know why.

hi @SpookyLoopz, i dont know if you remember me from Twitch chat a month ago but i was the one with the goal to watch every single video of yours and i would like to update you by saying that i currently only have 60 videos left to watch. - I even watched both your 4 hour YT stream VODs. *i will clarify ill avoid the Jedi Survivor videos only to avoid spoilers for myself* youre working hard and we see you. *CONGRATS ON 500K!!!* - much love❤

That Legion counter video at the end was crazy.

Great content as always. The sad thing is that you dont need to go against a pro team to get demolished by SWF, especially if you play a low-tier killer. I win 90% of my games as survivor playing duo and I run a Flip-flop build. The hardest part of playing survivor is dealing with DC's and trolls.

You know what'd be nice as a killer? Being able to regress door progress.

I stopped playing this game when i realized i actually have to be smart 😂

I always love seeing you and Hens team up to do video! Great job Spooks!

the fact that survivors can form a swf is just stupid. this video perfectly shows what huge difference communication gives and that you have to play strong killers to have a chance on winning. every single time i have to play a weak killer other than nurse or blight i get stomped. that's no fun at all. survivors have totally strong items (the healing nerf was a joke btw...they still heal within seconds), generator times are waaaay too low and 4 vs 1 is already a huge disadvantage, but get's even worse when those 4 players can even communicate among each other. until bhvr finally does something about this huge skill difference there will always remain toxicity in this game.

I love how Hens and Co. keep showing up in everyone's videos. They are the Ultimate DbD Celebrity Guest Stars.

They're so sweaty and coordinated, it almost discourages me from even picking up the game. XD Huge props to them! I can't imagine the time it took to get to that level of teamwork.

what pisses me off is dbd is a game where if u want to play survivor, u need to be a pro player and have a whole team with coms, otherwise u'll get shit on by a killer who just runs foward and camps hooks. its no fun game anymore

For decent swf/comms I'd say that Adrenline is more OP for survivors than NOED ever was for killers.

Bro played M1 killers, with full meta, their strongest add ons, against nerfed survivors (can't repeat perks and yellow items), on the most killer sided maps, with no playstyle restrictions and still could only get a kill with Freddy. Shows you how important mobility can be. Maybe they need a speed increase. Looking at you bhvr.

Impressive work by both sides. Looking forward to more experimental videos against pro teams.

As i comp player myself i saw some mistakes from them which i dont see often in tourneys but we have to consider these players dont have a lot of synergy cause they play in different teams, if you'll ever do something like this again i suggest you to ho against a full roster of One these two teams, eternal or elysium for a Better or worse expirience depending on how you want to look at it

Perfectly represents the lobbies i get as a casual killer player

Seeing Spooky get pooped on with lower tier killers makes me feel better wbout myself when i have a bad game. Nothing more demoralizing than getting run and having maybe 1 or 2 hooks the whole game.

Great video, that was painful too watch. All my matches felt like these this past weekend, except my survivors are not of the same caliber as these lunatics! ❤

This was insane!😮 great video Spooky❤

Seems like nearly all of the downs were from ping. Imagine how much of a slaughter it would have been otherwise.

Physically there is nothing a killer can do against these kind of teams.... Game is just not designed for killer to win against teams like this... So yeah.... GG though u did great still.

I watched tournaments and stuff alot and it's scary how strong the survivor teams are. Tournaments even have to limit what abilities and items the survivors can use to give killers a fighting chance.

I love watching spookyloopz so much bro 😭

Just the mere mention of "Dead by Daylight" and "Competitive" had me on the floor, dying in hysterics.

king wolfe does it all the time. get on that damn hook!!

I love you spookyloopz, even had my mom's account sub to you. The entire fam enjoys your horror content! You're my fave content creator for sure

I'm assuming spooky didn't change his playstyle to deal with this sort of team, which means that the experiment doesn't solve the question. Can low tier killers beat these teams? Yes, absolutely. But not if the killer plays like this. You need to tunnel. You need to focus people in vulnerable positions. You need to abuse whatever you can. You definitely shouldn't bring brutal strength lmao, it's a bad perk for these scenarios. Yes they will predrop, no brutal won't help. They will still have time to get to the next pallet. That's why you can't let them ever leave the hook, really. It's not fun but STBFL with a facecamp, deadlock, NOED, and no way out are probably your best bets.

Trapper should start with all his traps, idgaf

I don't care about the survivor vs killer debates but from a balance perspective it really does suck there are multiple killers that at a certain skill level just become completely unviable and very difficult-near impossible to win with not counting obvious exceptions like condemned or tombstone builds It's certainly a lot harder to balance asymmetrical games (especially filled with gameplay changing mechanics such as perks, addons, items and offerings) but I think it's something any game with a cast like this should try to avoid

I love when you make these videos keep up the good work spooky 🔥

"The game isn't survivor-sided!" - Survivor mains

I want KING WOLFE2 against this some tiled pro team 🤨🤔

Trapper, Myers, Pig and Freddy definitely need some buffs.

In the trapper game you can tell after Claudette got hit during the upper main window vault, the slow ping was confirmed and every palette after was a pre-drop.

Watching this just filled me with cringe, the feeling of helplessness is just the worst thing as a killer! I feel bad for anyone who experiences this.

All these never really show much though with perk and item restrictions, as that those restrictions won't be happening in a real match. Showing balance weaknesses should be compared against real world scenarios. If it's compared to real world match setups, BHVR can at least review and potentially consider balance adjustments. Otherwise, they could just say a killer struggled or survivors struggled only because of perk\item restrictions. At higher MMR, killer is practically unplayable unless you're playing S tier killers like nurse\blight...especially now that the only thing that was making lower tier killers somewhat playable (regression perks) were nerfed into oblivion. Now they don't stand a chance.

As a legion main I have this happened to me multiple times and sometime it's not even a team they are just random survival and most of them done this to me

It was really interesting to watch but as a Myers’s main and build enthusiast, I wouldn’t say those are his best add ons, I’d recommend superior anatomy, brutal strength, enduring, and bamboozle when you combine those with fragrant tuft of hair (unarguably his best perk, tombstone stuff reduces points and severely slows down evil within) essentially get evil within early and you’re unstoppable. You vault RIDICULOUSLY fast, you break pallets and gens without even losing the chase and you only need to hit them once. You could also sub out like enduring and bamboozle and do the nemesis play with your food speed boost combo. Either one makes Michael almost unstoppable, also best map for Myers’s is definitely the crow cemetery (can’t remember the name) but that tower is great for building evil within quickly in the beginning, line of sight is amazing on that map. Glenvale is also good for line of sight.

This looks really cool can’t wait to watch!

Ironically those are my most fun killers. It’s sad on some are deemed “weak” they need buffs

My day to day in DBD is this video literally, I could feel your pain without being the one who was playing :(

Love the collab with Hens!

I haven't been able to get Power Struggle to activate here lately. There has been things about it being bugged so not sure it was working for her as much as Ace just being there to ruin your day with pallets. Also they would stop and point almost letting you know he was close which was funny.

This is what happens when your team actually does gens. Crazy.

And this is why killers, even the top end of killers during comp matches and such, camp and tunnel so much lately (which is not fun at all for both sides) You can see how easily it is to get punished.

it'd be cool to see in 3rd vid spooky do a huge comeback and beat this comp team. he should collab with ohtofu about comp style gaming. I've learned soooo much from his scrim nights that I found myself calling the plays from hens team as the match went on. Great video though!

That was really interesting! Cool concept!

This is the exact experience i have when playing killer😂

That looks incredibly unfun to face as killer. Would dc lol

Freddy's hand synced so well with the music lol 25:52

this was cool to watch i like watching people play low tier killers and not OP ass killers

Dude... Amunt of pain in this video was bigger than in some rage compilations I saw... Props for enduring that Spooky!

Its just redicoulous how not made for competitive play DBD is

Best Title Art I’ve seen this week🔥🏆

Everything below is just feelings about the game, i just hope that there are people who feel the same. I just don't enjoy this game anymore. I mostly played killer cuz i'm a Scream and Halloween fan and i liked some custom killers like Dredge Everytime i commit chase on someone like Trapper, Pig, Myers etc i'm like 'meh...', cuz i know that there is one of those things are gonna happen: long chase with infinite pallets and windows, three gens popping or i'll have to drop chase so i can try not let them pop, it is just not satisfying in any way possible. Chases are not fun at all the way they work for m1 killers. "Run, pallet, break/leave pallet, run, pallet, break/leave pallet, run, window..." and so on. And yeah, skill issue a lot, of course, no complaining, but the problem is there is no way i can 'git gut' just bcs i cant play much, i have, you know, life, so i cant spend hours remembering all these shack outplays or learning blight or hillbilly. I guess the problem is when you hit several hundred hours in-game the whole gameplay changes: you now play against cybermonsters and just can't do anything about that. So you either become such a gamer or suffer, no way you can play casually anymore and have fun time. Another problem is that i can't have fun losing in this game. I don't know how to describe this, but in some games you have fun even if you lose hard if the process of 'loosing' is not punishing or just enjoyable. You can't end chase quickly? You'll hear gens popping, you won't get points, you will not hit or down survivor so all you were doing during such chase is just running around the map and you don't get anything to compensate this. How can it be fun? And it like so in many other aspects of the game. Now i mostly play GF, trying to RP it kile films or Dredge trying to play mostly with it's power, not m1-killer-alike. And then just go friendly GF. I don't play survivor cuz my friends don't want to play this game and i don't want to play with new people. And playing solo is just really boring to me So i guess i'll close that rift and will mostly play DRG. Rock and Stone!

This experiment shows how some killers are useless in top tier against top tier survivors that again points to game being survivor sided because skill ceiling for killer is always higher than what it is for survivors. no disrespect to Hens and his team I love the guy and watch his streams regularly

nerfing scourge hook was completely unnecessary.

Congrats on 500K!!

You lowkey sound like Rick from Rick & Morty xD and i love it, nice gameplay btw!

The freddy game made me laugh out loud. My brother in Christ, STOP PICKING THEM UP UNDER PALLETS WITHOUT CHECKING AROUND

Remove comms. Remove all perk & item restrictions. Go. That's the only testing that matters, if you gotta add exceptions and limits, it's invalid data overall, but still an entertaining video. :)

Man...I'm not playing the game and I can already feel the frustration in those games. It's just dumb that people dedicate to play in a competitive way.

Trapper actually likes main on Saloon! Looping main requires windows and narrow paths that survivors just cannot avoid. The big issue was trapper sack, Saloon is a small map so having to pick up the traps isn't really a huge deal. The big issue is that disarming your traps is easy and not a problem, especially since they dont get sloppied by bloody. Iri stone and green springs would've been a good play. Make them waste ages to disarm a trap that'll just be back in 30 seconds anyways!

TLDW: SWFs are so OP that non top tier killers have no shot when all things are equal (which they were not since the SWFs were restricted to not overlapping perks while the killer could take their best stuff)

Its so nice to see a killer main accepting the way the game goes sometimes instead of raging and losing their shit and being petty

Oh smart haven't seen this take before!!! Love it spooks

This guy’s voice sounds like rick sanchez🤣

as a Myers main, patience is needed to land a tombstone

Awesome video 👏 keep up ghe good work got a new subscriber

I love your dbd videos keep up the great work!

Ive noticed he doesnt patrol any gens when he plays….

I've definitely seen already deep wounded players take frenzy hits before, but it never loses the cool factor, because what usually happens is you go down for literally chasing the killer, but it's the ultimate team play

You are spoiling us with all these video's spooky! 😌

Would be awesome to put some discord talkin after each match, would love to hear some comments and laughs and generally people who had a lot of fun together ♥

From looking at your Myers gameplay, you seem quite inexperienced with the killer. You might want to check a beginner guide. For example, you typically want to 99% your stalk meter, and only go tier 3 when you are right next to them for a quick kill. You activated tier 3 prematurely at 10:55, 12:17, 13:38. As an occasional Myer player, I had to cringe at these newbie mistakes!

Some of best best comp players in the world. Nice to see comp getting some love.

During the Myers game when you got grab validated during the unhook you could have held stalk and killed one of them instead since he committed to the unhook.

This is so cool I want more of these videos

You play too nice to ever win against good players like them, in my opinion.