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Can Luxembourg stand AGAINST the Axis? HOI4 Challenge 

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@Bitt3rSteel
@Bitt3rSteel 2 года назад
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@linkfromzelda1002
@linkfromzelda1002 Год назад
I thought you got sponsored by For Honor because I stopped paying attention.
@Randomsass
@Randomsass Год назад
If this man if he have a time machine he litterally can make san marino the world 1st power
@justtoasty979
@justtoasty979 Год назад
HH huff
@antosqa7343
@antosqa7343 2 года назад
This is why the conference need to be reworked. It is so frustrating when you need an exact state for formable nation and an "allies" took it from you
@VanBourner
@VanBourner 2 года назад
Yeah I always love it when they liberate Slovenia when I am going for A-H...
@datnoob4394
@datnoob4394 2 года назад
Maybe a "reject peace deal" option were you goto war with your previous allies over the deal
@peytonh1532
@peytonh1532 2 года назад
They are reworking peace deals...
@roguemerc
@roguemerc 2 года назад
The sad part is, in this case it should be as easy as 1 button where you de-legitimize the belgian/netherlandic governments in exile, but the dlc wont fix this in my prediction
@HelicopterShownUp
@HelicopterShownUp 2 года назад
An easy fix would be adding a claims and cores round that takes place before free spending.
@glauberglousger6643
@glauberglousger6643 2 года назад
In an alternative universe, everyone fears Luxembourg as the one who took over Germany
@larsbenson6947
@larsbenson6947 2 года назад
Just play Luxembourgreich mod haha
@lars9925
@lars9925 2 года назад
@@larsbenson6947 Taureor did it in vanilla a few years ago.
@TheLeastEast
@TheLeastEast 2 года назад
Alternate?
@HelicopterShownUp
@HelicopterShownUp 2 года назад
In an alternate reality, you are the leader of that version of Luxembourg
@heinjoe6856
@heinjoe6856 2 года назад
why searching for an alternative universe ? 5 emperors of the holy roman empire were luxembourgish (House of Luxembourg) but they fucked up in the 15 century and disappeared
@lialy
@lialy 2 года назад
Rosa Luxembourg is a reference to one of the leaders of the early communist organizations in the Weimar Republic. In early 1919, they tried to take over the government in the "Spartakusaufstand", which resulted in battles against the government, especially in Berlin. Thats also why it is called the Weimar Republic, since because of the battles, the government first went to Weimar to create a constitution. Thx for all the likes btw. :D
@mr.pearly7478
@mr.pearly7478 2 года назад
yeah, she was one of the leaders of the Spartacist League, an extreme socialist group who supported the German Communist Party (KPD), along side Karl Liebknecht she died in the Spartakusaufstand mentioned (Spartacist Uprising)
@FreudRulz
@FreudRulz 2 года назад
She was also one of the few "big names" in international communist circles that actively just fucking *hated* Lenin, primarily because she ascribed to orthodox Marxism rather than the centralist Bolshevism Lenin espoused.
@98raoul
@98raoul 2 года назад
@@FreudRulz she didn't hate lenin, they disagreed bitterly on many things, such as the national question, but they still (nominally, as neither had the means for material support) supported each other's efforts
@FreudRulz
@FreudRulz 2 года назад
@@98raoul Yeah I suppose I was being a bit hyperbolic, not gonna lie. She did write a piece that critiqued Bolshevism, and certainly had harsh words for the group of professional revolutionists ca. 1904, but you are correct that her feelings towards Lenin we're far less harsh than I implied. I may have been misconstruing her with Goldman, another contemporary revolutionary (albeit an anarchist) who I am admittedly far more familiar with.
@reubenderry2469
@reubenderry2469 2 года назад
fun fact: the spartacist uprising began without the leaders’ knowledge
@Dante-mr3rz
@Dante-mr3rz 2 года назад
Casualties inflicted should also be a factor in war participation. Hopefully next dlc will fix that.
@ChemySh
@ChemySh 2 года назад
wait, iirc it does count towards your participation... but the value is too small for the amount of people you kill
@toxin2396
@toxin2396 2 года назад
Maybe also a system that counts the results of battles towards war participation, like a won battle counts for double the war participation or something
@SmallPotato2313
@SmallPotato2313 2 года назад
@@toxin2396 soviet AI would always have negative participation from all lost battles xd
@MrDwarfpitcher
@MrDwarfpitcher 2 года назад
Also one for EU4 please. I dislike it how I make good moves, beating up the enemy force left and right. All the while seeing my buddy having high war participation because they got their armies stackwiped 3 times
@Dante-mr3rz
@Dante-mr3rz 2 года назад
@@MrDwarfpitcher Then again, it's nice to stack 40 favours with Ottos by standing on an enemy fort.😄
@roedagardet
@roedagardet 2 года назад
Karl Marx making 500 men appear is historically accurate! In 2018, China gifted Germany a statue of Karl Marx to celebrate his 200th birthday. During the unveiling of this statue, in Marx's hometown Trier, a crowd of roughly 100 people appeared in the area. Some might say that these were people who came to watch the unveiling of the statue or to photograph the statue, but this is untrue, these people just manifested into existence at that moment - and now they are all members of the German army!
@jmpmp_505
@jmpmp_505 Год назад
Karl Marx killed more then hitler He made communism which killed up to 100 million people all across Russia and china He doesn’t deserve a statue
@BT_et_Cooper
@BT_et_Cooper 6 месяцев назад
What is the DLC for Karl Marx pls
@roedagardet
@roedagardet 6 месяцев назад
@@BT_et_Cooper no step back
@BT_et_Cooper
@BT_et_Cooper 6 месяцев назад
@@roedagardet tysm
@elbeto191291
@elbeto191291 2 года назад
.Bitter: Really Soviets? Taking my cores? Why? -Me, after getting screwed several times in a peace deal as the Balkan Federation: First time?
@snaiper195
@snaiper195 2 года назад
Exacly the reason why i use tollpack to get my land back and then force those "allies" to attack me to add realisim
@vrabb9030
@vrabb9030 Год назад
@@snaiper195 not using toolpack is a death sentence
@snaiper195
@snaiper195 Год назад
@@vrabb9030 i never play without it i even use it to create my own scenarios or do stuff like Playable ISP megacaimpaing 2022
@redneckgaijin
@redneckgaijin 8 месяцев назад
Yes, because Stalin stabbing his allies in the back is COMPLETELY unrealistic.
@generalofchaos5174
@generalofchaos5174 2 года назад
So glad they're reworking the peace deals so that we can avoid (or at least some) frustration like you experienced after having to fight the Germans as fricking Luxemburg
@Gabeslicor
@Gabeslicor 2 года назад
Yeah they really need to make casualties delt to the enemy give warscore
@Dan-wt7jx
@Dan-wt7jx 2 года назад
You have far more faith in paradox than I do, I'm convinced this will make things much much worse
@richardbarbaros5868
@richardbarbaros5868 2 года назад
@@Dan-wt7jx Exactly, better just to do Player Led Peace Conferences mod, but just have a bit of self-control when alloting the land concessions.
@buddermonger2000
@buddermonger2000 2 года назад
@@Dan-wt7jx They're doing a "bidding" system where everyone is at once. The biggest thing though is generating war score from kills and make it worth more than dying. Seriously that's basically all you need to do. If you kill off most of their army and take their entire land by yourself suffering only 20k casualties but they go full stupid and get killed for 3 million men they get all of the war score. Really not okay.
@terralp2062
@terralp2062 2 года назад
@@Dan-wt7jx True. Remember how they tried to fix one division training?
@lukefiggins6851
@lukefiggins6851 2 года назад
Oh man i know this pain, made an attempt at the Crusader Kings 3 achievement (As Poland, have a monarch and control Jerusalem). I went Cossack King and single-handedly sunk the Royal Navy and conquered Great Britain and got ZERO say in the peace treaty. Run over.
@sergioinnit
@sergioinnit 2 года назад
lord vada
@spritemon98
@spritemon98 2 года назад
That's bullshit
@lukefiggins6851
@lukefiggins6851 2 года назад
@@spritemon98 Yeah makes me want to do unkind things to whoever coded it that way. At least they seem to be fixing it come the release of the Italian DLC and associated peace treaty rework update.
@buddermonger2000
@buddermonger2000 2 года назад
Equipment and people killed ratio to lost should be the biggest factor tbh. I mean there wasn't really a lot of negotiating with America given they lost basically no-one, had an army of 11 million and a big fucking bomb ready for industrial production. Yeah go ahead and fucking TRY to argue.
@totalwar1793
@totalwar1793 2 года назад
Order 66 your allies
@Arbiter099
@Arbiter099 2 года назад
Speaking of tiny nations, something dumb and funny for the new Italy DLC would be a playable Vatican City to Papal States path
@conrod60
@conrod60 Год назад
very funny
@CarterPringle
@CarterPringle Год назад
Or San Martino lol
@nedenburayabaktn2981
@nedenburayabaktn2981 Год назад
Foreshadowing
@mrl2886
@mrl2886 2 года назад
3:44 This is a reference to Rosa Luxemburg, who was a Polish-born philosopher who worked in Germany in the Weimar Republic as a political activist and founded the Spartacus League which became the Communist Party of Germany.
@Matteo-rodrigo-Fonsesca-perez
@Matteo-rodrigo-Fonsesca-perez 2 года назад
Then got executed for the spartacus uprising
@Loterrach
@Loterrach 2 года назад
She was also a jewess.
@rokloknita9494
@rokloknita9494 2 года назад
I'm just imagining how mad Hitler must be in this timeline.
@apeiro3810
@apeiro3810 Год назад
Getting his ass kicked by the smallest country imaginable
@corfile3869
@corfile3869 Год назад
@@apeiro3810Vatican City
@apeiro3810
@apeiro3810 Год назад
@@corfile3869 it’s an expression
@corfile3869
@corfile3869 Год назад
@@apeiro3810 Vatican City
@apeiro3810
@apeiro3810 Год назад
@@corfile3869 no-father city
@isteksizaykut9924
@isteksizaykut9924 2 года назад
I love how he tries to do impossible challanges and actually do it
@kevinboros7427
@kevinboros7427 2 года назад
That's why you should use player led peace conferences. I hope they fix this massive flaw with the peace deals in the next update. If you directly occupy that land AND have cores on it, it should be significantly cheaper for you to annex than for anybody else.
@SkeetontheverycoolSkeleton
@SkeetontheverycoolSkeleton 2 года назад
Yeah I believe the bidding system might be good
@Kandall05161
@Kandall05161 2 года назад
If you directly occupy land and have cores on it, it *is* much cheaper for you than anybody else. You get a massive cost multiplier on land occupied by a different faction than you, and a cost reduction on claims and cores(even cheaper). However, if you have 6 warscore per turn it doesn't matter how cheap the land is for you. The AI that was grinding casualties for 4 years before you joined the war will get the 1600 points it takes to take your land LONG before you get the 80 you need.
@michaeltomasicchio6895
@michaeltomasicchio6895 2 года назад
I remember something like this happening to me once. I played as Ireland with the goal of owning all of Britain. I flipped fascist, slowly built up my army and air force, and then when the UK was distracted in France, I joined the Axis, joined the war, and launched a crap ton of paratroopers into GB. It took a while and a lot of micro, but I eventually managed to capitulate GB entirely by myself. I occupied all the land, and I had inflicted a ton of casualties through encirclements and defending my ports from AI naval invasion spam. When the war was over, I literally could not even get Northern Ireland in the peace deal, which is a core state of Ireland. I solo-ed a major power and ended the war single-handedly, and for my efforts the game awarded me basically no war score. It took a while for the sting of that one to fade.
@derkach7907
@derkach7907 2 года назад
"I've mastered the abillity of standing so incredible still that i have become invisible to the eye"
@lordluxembourg8777
@lordluxembourg8777 2 года назад
Glory to Luxembourg!
@JulesCincis
@JulesCincis 8 месяцев назад
Ech sinn och vun letzebuerg
@Nyarlschannel
@Nyarlschannel 2 года назад
Stalin gave you that peace deal as punishment for consistently calling him "Shtalin" 🤔
@trinxty6099
@trinxty6099 2 года назад
Rosa can mean Red so its a reference in that way. Mostly though it refers to a German communist called Rosa Luxemburg. She was a leader of the Spartacists along with Karl Liebknecht as well as an author of Communist philosophy. Hope that helps
@rahulbhardwaj5546
@rahulbhardwaj5546 2 года назад
The most iconic line "Ironman mode on, Historical Focuses on, lets go!"
@BlackHammer3
@BlackHammer3 2 года назад
Just yesterday I was watching a madman forming EU as Luxemburg by the end of 1942 and today Bitter is also doing some Luxemburg madness, absolutely love it!
@patrikcath1025
@patrikcath1025 Год назад
I do know what "Rosa Luxembourg" is a reference to, it's one of the few things I remember from GCSE history!
@beagle4932
@beagle4932 2 года назад
Rosa Luxemburg is a reference to... Rosa Luxemburg. A Jew who was born in Poland, grew up in Germany, and was a communist revolutionary leader. Fun fact: she spoke Yiddish.
@Tom-oj7si
@Tom-oj7si 2 года назад
She and the spartakists were disgusting murderers.
@user-uk9om2vl3x
@user-uk9om2vl3x 2 года назад
What Yiddish
@stevenmichael12705
@stevenmichael12705 2 года назад
Also, it literally just means "Red Luxembourg" in German :)
@lafalangeespanola4519
@lafalangeespanola4519 2 года назад
She also lead the Spartacist Revolt in Weimar Germany 1918 too
@brandonsinger5802
@brandonsinger5802 2 года назад
Wer schwimmt denn da im Landwehrkanal? Das ist die Rosa und der Karl
@BlackKnigth323
@BlackKnigth323 2 года назад
You needed Glen for max efficiency with Luxembourg, Glen is reliable Reference: Watch ISP play Luxembourg
@ZWS_Link
@ZWS_Link 2 года назад
I feel the anger At that peace deal, I now play only modded with player lead peace because The peace deals have shafted me too often
@Buzzy_Bland
@Buzzy_Bland 2 года назад
Pretty sure Stakuyi did a challenge like this a while back, and had the exact same thing happen to him. God damn.
@KittyThunder0824
@KittyThunder0824 2 года назад
Man I love the industrial powerhouse of Luxemurg 0:11
@HomeBoyOfficial
@HomeBoyOfficial 2 года назад
I need to see a sequel to this save where you take on the soviets to reclaim your land
@blackandwhitecats4243
@blackandwhitecats4243 2 года назад
I wonder how a level 10 fortress city with anti air would look like IRL.
@Anthony-jh6xt
@Anthony-jh6xt 8 месяцев назад
Look like my treehouse
@reborngamer3930
@reborngamer3930 2 года назад
Crazy challenge! Let's see how this goes! Ty for the video.
@asdprogram
@asdprogram 2 года назад
Alright, here's another challenge: Survive with Ethiopia
@bigmeowster99
@bigmeowster99 2 года назад
You just accomplished something that even the great Taureor attempted but could not accomplish. You should feel good about yourself.
@datnoob4394
@datnoob4394 2 года назад
9:01 USSR: *Declares war on Germany* Game: "Germany breaks the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact!"
@red_seven_
@red_seven_ 2 года назад
'30 minutes of hel' is for the beginners. The one REAL challenge is '4 years in ettelbrück' (until the first push) now. Great vid as always! Keep it coming like that.
@johnsider4479
@johnsider4479 2 года назад
You are just the best bittersteel, keep up with the great work
@PepperoniMilkshake
@PepperoniMilkshake 2 года назад
Great job at doing something almost impossible, pretty stupid how your "ally" screwed you out of your core lands, hopefully they fix that on the next patch
@lightlysaltedseadog6255
@lightlysaltedseadog6255 2 года назад
Tbh thats the most realistic depiction of communism, they should leave it in
@PepperoniMilkshake
@PepperoniMilkshake 2 года назад
@@lightlysaltedseadog6255 Ngl you're kinda right about communists screwing people over
@bradynewbold3763
@bradynewbold3763 2 года назад
Love the enthusiasm at the beginning of the video
@jew331
@jew331 2 года назад
So glad that peace deals are getting a rework
@TheeRisingSun
@TheeRisingSun Год назад
This was an awesome guide and thank you so much.
@CallyA
@CallyA 6 месяцев назад
When you think about it, the peace conference makes complete sense from a world power point of view. No big power would suddenly want Luxembourg to be that important.
@user-cd4bx6uq1y
@user-cd4bx6uq1y 2 года назад
This was a nice one
@Patton1944
@Patton1944 2 года назад
Going all in on entrenchment is pretty funny. I did that for my monarchist Lithuania game and the Soviets really had a hard time.
@sheep7
@sheep7 6 месяцев назад
this was one of the first hoi4 videos I watched. 481 hours later...
@oneesama3421
@oneesama3421 2 года назад
0:12 "...of Luxemurg!" Off to a great start xDDDDDDDDDDD
@clem7542
@clem7542 2 года назад
Luxembourg has learned the power to stand so still, that they're invisible
@boschy8842
@boschy8842 Год назад
This video is actually quite interesting!
@Minyeti18
@Minyeti18 2 года назад
13:09 We were on the verge of "[It ain't much], but it's honest work", we were this close.
@hydranmenace
@hydranmenace Год назад
Good to see these well balanced peace mechanics working as intended. Hope the new system actually works....
@Bill.Andreolas
@Bill.Andreolas 2 года назад
Chad Luxembourg
@Ahmad-fs2kt
@Ahmad-fs2kt 2 года назад
🇹🇩🇱🇺
@PoorIdentification426
@PoorIdentification426 2 года назад
🇦🇩🇳🇱
@Ahmad-fs2kt
@Ahmad-fs2kt 2 года назад
@@PoorIdentification426 not that but ok
@nickstoneham5629
@nickstoneham5629 2 года назад
Finally... after all these years since I have been here, you finally did it... I can die peacefully now.
@zacharytaylor2423
@zacharytaylor2423 2 года назад
It would be a cool follow-up if you continued this save and retook the Benelux from Stalin.
@jumbojellyjames2329
@jumbojellyjames2329 2 года назад
"Industrial power house of luxemurg" Man do I love bitter
@acasualrobloxplayer1203
@acasualrobloxplayer1203 5 месяцев назад
1:55 oh, boy you would absolutely LOVE early DLC bulgaria. (i actually made a way to not die, and even prosper with 2 friends as bulgaria.
@MantasDoesVideos
@MantasDoesVideos Год назад
Imagine if real life wars were settled in this game
@ronanwaring3408
@ronanwaring3408 2 года назад
That's why there working on a peace deal rework you can claim them on the cheap being cores
@Dennug
@Dennug Год назад
Man you are so good at this game i wish i had your skill
@jonidymeti5396
@jonidymeti5396 2 года назад
Great video :) Earned a sub well done
@Bitt3rSteel
@Bitt3rSteel 2 года назад
Awesome, thank you!
@mannibus1571
@mannibus1571 2 года назад
player lead peace conferances is the best mod going tbh.
@n3ct0d2
@n3ct0d2 2 года назад
Rosa Luxemburg, actually Rozalia Luxenburg - economist, theoretician and activist of Polish and German social democracy
@aalfa5779
@aalfa5779 2 года назад
that's why I always play with Player Lead Peace Conference
@donatdankhazi4049
@donatdankhazi4049 7 месяцев назад
That's why I always use player led peace conference.
@The-rc9cm
@The-rc9cm 9 месяцев назад
3:46 I believe that Rosa Luxembourg was a German revolutionary during the postwar years and was informally executed by German Freikorps. Although this may have many holes in it so I suggest do a lil bit of research too!
@nerdsahhgaming4779
@nerdsahhgaming4779 Год назад
Now Attempt Luxembourg World Domination.
@luigieverlasting305
@luigieverlasting305 2 года назад
The ending is exactly why you should always use player lead peace conferences
@Cazline
@Cazline 2 года назад
the mod player led peace conferences is a life saver as a small nation
@flyingtoast2708
@flyingtoast2708 Год назад
Remember to always turn on the state transfer tool and player led peace conferences so you never get screwed over in the conference
@twiga2
@twiga2 2 года назад
Rosa Luxembourg is a reference to one of the leaders during the spartacist revolt in Germany (I think 1919).
@cheems2525
@cheems2525 Год назад
That red bar during the ad really got me fucked up, I though that video was almost over already when I was skipping through it
@LakeGameCreepr
@LakeGameCreepr 2 года назад
Rosa Luxembourg is a reference to the real life Polish-German ww1 and interwar era communist, Rosa Luxemburg
@Stan_Vanderakt
@Stan_Vanderakt 2 года назад
Peacedeals are the reason why I always play with Player controlled peacedeal enabled.
@HermitagePrepper
@HermitagePrepper 11 месяцев назад
I was expecting soviets to storm while heavy version of sacred war plays
@knightornstein5902
@knightornstein5902 2 года назад
All of this effort just for the HOI4 AI to do what it always does. Thanks, PDX.
@TheChuckerChuck
@TheChuckerChuck Год назад
Luxemberg in history books: small push into the benelux, conscript every man who can hold a weapon and activate operation human wave.
@stef1790
@stef1790 2 года назад
I am not sure if it still works, but I would suggest you try firing the civil war for faster transition and as you are a one province country, it will automatically switch you with no war. Then you have plenty of time to attack the lowland counties and you can use the Dutch East Indies manpower for divisions.
@Flavius_Theodosius
@Flavius_Theodosius 2 года назад
Rosa Luxembourg is clearly a reference to Morbius who is quoted by Karl Marx in 'Das Kapital' with saying "It's Morbin' time".
@nicktrains2234
@nicktrains2234 Год назад
The Luxembourg turtle. I love it
@FoggyCheeze
@FoggyCheeze Год назад
Thats why we love player led peaceconferences :D
@TheSourLemoner
@TheSourLemoner Год назад
Fortress: LUXEMBOURG
@Manuel-ud9sy
@Manuel-ud9sy Год назад
rosa luxembourg is a reference to the german revolutionary rosa luxemburg
@ceyes00
@ceyes00 2 года назад
It’s a reference to one of the worlds greatest revolutionaries Rosa Luxemburg
@rasmushedberg3655
@rasmushedberg3655 Год назад
3:43 rosa luxembourg is an author. i know that because my grandma has a book written by her
@Bill.Andreolas
@Bill.Andreolas 2 года назад
Next Video:Chad World Conquest
@maxxgrumpy
@maxxgrumpy 2 года назад
the new peace treaty is coming mate, hopefully we are going to get less angry there
@rasyaar5124
@rasyaar5124 Год назад
This is why casualties in war participation NEEDS TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED OR EVEN REMOVE IT ALL
@Arselpang
@Arselpang 2 дня назад
Haha, the subtitles "and we've lost exactly 1.3 cavemen" i guess the soldiers of Luxembourg were neanderthals 🤣
@fin6671
@fin6671 Год назад
hey the new blood alone has worked out that peace deal
@Wolfythereviewer
@Wolfythereviewer Год назад
imagine the general having to approach Hi*ler that they can't take Luxembourg and then later have to tell them that the Luxembourgers managed to push out and took the lowlands.
@wernhervonkerman2382
@wernhervonkerman2382 5 месяцев назад
Closed captions said you lost "1.3 cavemen". I was so confused because I didn't have audio on.
@StockGoat
@StockGoat Год назад
And so now there Is a Mutilated Victory for Luxembourg too
@Charles-Antoine_LeRoy
@Charles-Antoine_LeRoy 15 дней назад
Imagine being a German general having to explain to the moustache guy they lost the war because of Luxembourg
@BritishColonist
@BritishColonist 2 года назад
sejozwak recently managed to form the EU as Luxembourg. he did use a bit of cheese tho.
@carltonleboss
@carltonleboss 2 года назад
Thank goodness they're going to rework peace conferences
@JonMI6
@JonMI6 2 года назад
In the next patch, By Blood Alone, peace conferences will be reworked
@theonetruepancakeman
@theonetruepancakeman Год назад
When an extremely tiny country is stronger than a world superpower...
@lolbot7003
@lolbot7003 2 года назад
Hey Bittersteel, could you tell me what template you used for the motorised? I am going for a similar run and yours seemed to be pretty effective. Thanks
@sukaruta8178
@sukaruta8178 Год назад
part 2: invading ussr as luxemburg
@balazstoth4813
@balazstoth4813 2 года назад
7:35 rip the 1.3 cavemen :(
@colonelreb2688
@colonelreb2688 2 года назад
Challenge: complete plan z as Germany, no annexing puppet fleets other than Vichy France, no crap designs other than destroyers possibly
@koukiss4939
@koukiss4939 2 года назад
You could also get manpower by doing the exploit sejozwak did with air wings
@sprites75
@sprites75 2 года назад
new system might work , but only if war participation is calculated accordingly, because with only 5 % you'll still get shafted
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