Can Plant Protein Match Animal Protein? | Educational Video | Biolayne 

I wish there were more of theses blends on the market so that they drop in price. Because plant protein should in theory be a lot cheaper

I really appreciate the lack of “one size fits all” dogma in Layne’s videos. The nutrient sources and consumption habits go all over the spectrum, proving there are many paths to improving/maintaining health, you just have to find the one you can be consistent with.

Always love how informed and information based your content is. Compared to to Tik-Tok and other youtube channels dealing with fitness, the quality of your presentation really stands out! Keep it up brother! Also thanks for breaking down how you approach squats, as a taller guy it really helped me!

I recently did a comparative analysis of amino acids in a commonly available (soy free) 'plant burger' vs a high quality beef burger. We were surprised at how well engineered the plant burger to be quite close/balanced on the EAAs.

Good study! Thanks for keeping us in the loop!

I just don't understand why you only have 269k subscribers. Your info is so well researched and in my opinion your message is balanced. You have made a huge positive impact on my journey. Keep it up Layne!

Biolayne deserves more subs

I noticed if I subbed out my smoothies pea protein with brown rice protein at the end of the day my amino acid profile was pretty bang on in cronometer. It was a surprising difference.

great job, Layne! Can't wait to listen to your podcast on Huberman!

This comment is nastier than Brussels sprouts

This is great. Whey has increased so much in price. Whey around $140 pea $100.

I really love how careful Layne is with how he talks to and about vegans.

hey layne! just commenting for the algorithm and sayin how much i loved the pod with you and andrew recently. listened to the whole thing :)

Even though I’m plant-based, I still listen to this guy because he actually talks about science and at least has a objective point of view overall @biolayne

Plant based here for just over 4 years (for health reasons, not ethical). The general consensus that I have read about multiple times is that it's not so much about getting all of the essential amino acids in the same meal, and that if you eat a variety of plant based foods throughout the day, with varying levels of amino acids, it's the same as ingesting a complete protein in one shot. For instance, if you took these 3 protein sources talked about (corn, pea, and wheat) and you ate those separately at different times of the day, they would still be built up together to form complete proteins. Do you agree with that? Any thoughts?

Hello Biolane!!! I LOVE how much you have come along with your material presentation. You speak super well and have a much more vibrant energy. Keep up with the great work!!!

that was really great info

Plant based athletes have been saying this for years but I’m glad that the science and someone as respected as Layne are discussing it. I tell people it is more challenging being plant based, but not inferior.

Plants contain an anti-nutritional factor called "protease inhibitor", which interferes with digestive enzyme in human body and decrease the absorption of amino acids. However, if you cook the plants you eat, the protease inhibitors are eliminated and absorption rate of amino acids increases. It means bioavailability of plant proteins increases.

Companies have been blending plant proteins in their protein powder supplements for years!!

This protein study was very helpful, especially with many food items now incorporating pea protein as an alternative to animal protein.

Great Study! Thanks Layne.

Great stuff, thanks Layne!

Good info as always Layne, thanks 🙏

A whole goods plant based diet is supposed to include multiple protein sources to get all amino’s. Mix lentils, legumes, nuts, seeds, whole grains etc. In the end it’ll be better than animal sources.

Great video! Any recommendations on a plant based protein supplement powder?

Just someone objectively talking about science. Love it! Also respectful towards all the plant based folks out there 💪🏼

Informative video layne thanks for sharing

You totally should do some sort of collaboration with dr. Mike Isratel form Renaissance Periodization. You both have very similar approach to fitness and science

Thank you for this good latest information!

More great content, as always. Thanks!

Great info, thank you!

For the algorithm. Because this channel deserves far more reach than it has.

Loved your recent conversation with Dr Huberman

I have been whole food plant based for 5 years now and I have noticed my recovery is faster, I continue to progress in my training at a faster rate and as a bonus I am much healthier over all than I was on a paleo lifestyle. I see no reason for me to eat animal products at all, they are simply not needed.

"If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding!"

As Layne suggested, would be more interesting to compare an 80/20 whey/casein blend to the plant blend. It's pretty well established that 80/20 whey/casein is better than 20/80 which is found in milk protein

The real problem with blended plant proteins is how much more farming needs to be done to keep up with that demand. This means eradicting all life except for the farmed food from that acreage, spraying pesticides, fungicides, and insecticides across a wider range of land area, and also more carbon emissions produced by farming equipment. Something to consider if doing plant-based for ethical reasons. Nothing is perfect or free of consequence.

Awesome! So happy to see some helpful content for vegans! Thank you.

Excellent presentation.

Thanks love your content Keep me posted on the Plant Based stuff. I’d like to be all plant base eventually.

I did that keto diet years ago! I have 20% blockages of my arteries! I’m on plant based now!

"The muscle protein synthetic response to the ingestion of 30 g of this plant-derived protein blend *does not differ* from the ingestion of an equivalent amount of a high quality animal-derived protein."

Yeah great points coming from science is credible , thank you !!

Good review! I have many questions on protein some of which may be outside your area of research. Research shows animal amino acids are absorbed quicker or more efficiently and they aide in muscle growth modestly over plant proteins. It is true plant proteins are absorbed less efficiently and are not complete so a well rounded plant based diet is required to obtain the same level of protein from an animal source. Some data suggests an alkaline diet and high potassium diet of plant proteins allows for longer retention/use of plant proteins. I would like someone to study if a good human gut microbiome can aide in production of essential amino acids like cow guts. I am trying to build muscle eating a whole food plant based diet with limited animal products. I do this for benefits in longevity and disease prevention. I am most strict at avoiding processed foods both plant and animal. I am following the research by Dr. Thomas Seyfried, Dr. Oliver Maddocks of Faeth Therapeutics and the work of Dr. Colin T Campbell which all show increased cancer risk with certain proteins and amino acids and I can't help but hypothesis that the quick uptake or pro-growth affects of animal proteins may aide in muscle growth and cancer growth. There is no good data to suggest animal products lower cancer risk when compared to whole food plants. There are many medium and some high quality data to suggest cancer risk with increasing amounts of animal products in the diet. If you have information please share. If not I think this is an area of research that needs to be explored. The question I have is how much meat can I eat to be healthy, but not overdo it and obtain the health detriments in other areas proven from over consumption of animal products.

I did keto years ago! It had me afraid of carbs! Now I have 20% clogged arteries! I’m eating now plant based ! Plus bought organic plant based protein powder!

Great information Sir

What about 70/30 pea/brown rice….this combo has almost the same amino profile as whey.

But what about Crow-tein?

Great Video as always

What are the optimal ratios (or ranges of ratios) of corn:soy:wheat?

FOR THE ALGORITHM!!! XD I love your videos, thank you for always giving us such great content Dr Layne!

would it be the same if you just combine a EAA supplement full of all the aminos you need with just a plant based protein (no blend)?.

Love it.. great video

Great vid again but tiny pet peeve, the Dutch name "van Loon" is more accurately pronounced like "van Lone". Other than that just consider this a helpful algorithmic comment.

Plant based for 7 years here, and have noticed no difference in lean body mass...

I'm helping!

If you eat a well rounded (30-40 variable whole food plants) whole food plant based diet with no processed foods and no animal products you can build muscle. I am doing it!.

Hey Layne what about the bioavailability of plant protein compared to milk protein?

I just want to make sure I am not wasting my time with a pea and rice protein mix.Whey messes up my stomach randomly. THAT IS the only reason I do this. I use this in between traditional protein meals. So I use every kind of protein throughout the day.

Been following Layne since I was 16. That's more than a decade of nasty comments.

Hello, i have a question. If ypu need somewhere from 1.6-2.2g/kg of protein to optimal build muscle, how much protein per kg is enough to just maintaine what you already have? can i just cut dow to like 1-1.2g/kg and il be fine? hope u see this and sorry for my bad english.

3:34 Does anybody here know what is the RDA for leucine per minute.

I use pea protein only (just low on methionine,actually i think it’s a good thing for aging reason…) and it works great for me. Nobody care but the algorithm… Take care.

Has anyone found a commercially available protein with this wheat pea corn blend?

thank you.

good shit Lay, keep it up dawg

Stuart Phillips on MPS

Good info.

Anything on hemp seed powder? Has the bonus of fibre & omega fatty acids which could be good for a blend of plant based shakes.

What about lectins and other anti-nutrients in seeds? Do they affect protein synthesis?

good job man

The next thing to remember is it in the form of food Vs an isolate

thx

When wheat (the grain, not protein isolate) is referred to as having a pdcaas of .4-.5, what happens to the other .5-.6 fraction of the energy? Broken down for glucose? Excreted undigested?

I like plant protein because it makes my oatmeal extra thicc. But yeah, the evidence seems pretty consistent that if you’re eating high protein (let’s say 1.6g/kg) the quality of said protein matters far less.

I just mix my split peas with my broth. That way I definitely have all I need.

Wondering if there's any data on whey proteins made using precision fermentation like perfect day for those that are planted based but want the benefits of whey.

great app!!

What about plant protein and BCAAs and EAAs

Is there any studies that compare the amount of joint deceases between vegeterians and meat-eaters?

💯 Layne!!

No

Anyone find a DHEA focused rant by biolayne?

good stuff

Derek was just on Mikhail Peterson's podcast. Would you be willing to go on her podcast if invited?

Humm? Interesting study. If you can find non-GMO corn😏

I thought I would leave you a nasty comment, so here it is.

commenting to help the algorithm

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My brother has PKU would this be an adequate alternative for protein for him. I'm not really to knowledgeable about his disease I literally was talking to him about dieting alternatives for him yesterday and telling him about Carbon diet coach. I just didn't know how he would hit his protein macros.

All hail the algorithm!!

I wonder if there are other side effects from these blends. At any rate I'm not a body builder and do don't need a shake. I'm happy to just get protein in a natural way, like a steak.

Fooooor the algorithm

For the algorithm

for the algorithm.

Layne what's your take, or anyone's opinion. It's been said that a diet of low protein, (.25 grams per pound body weight intake) of animal protein is superior to the same amount of amino imbalanced plant protein, yet at a certain amount of protein intake, there is no difference if a specific amount of necessary balance of aminos are consumed. What might be that threshold? If one has about 160 grams a day perhaps only 30 grams of properly balanced aminos are necessary. If so what's the equation?

For the algorithm...

Man I’m trying to do a body recomp at 350 lbs, down from 364 in a month. I want to preserve muscle so I’ve been all about animal protein. But my doctor says my cholesterol needs to come down so I’m looking at plant based complete proteins to get me there.

They picked Milk Protein because it is easier to match/beat. If the Amino signature and quantity of both groups were the same, you would think you would get similar results. However I dont think any amount of source balancing and quantity adjustment in plant protein can match large quantities of Whey. I know some plant-based people that do prioritize protein so thats good. Also they realized it was easier to add back eggs and fish to address deficiencies. How long until they discover that red meat is even better? 🤣🤣🤣