Can professional dancers find RIIZE's main dancer?🔥 

This is Just profesional dancer opinion. Please respect...

@@barudakdrakoranyone w eyes can tell that shotaro is the main dancer lmao he has more technique and flow to him compared to wonbin

@@barudakdrakoridk it doesn’t seem like the choice they made in this video was purely based off what they know as dancers, it seems like they picked him cause they find him more attractive especially when anyone can tell that shotaro is the better dancer and any dancer can tell he has more technique

Wonbin has insane stage presence and body language that’s what make people think that he’s better than shotaro (he even made me doubt in their debut) but when you analyse them closely, you can see how Shotaro is more accurate with his technique. Imo even Seunghan is better than Wonbin 🤐

@@mohhhhhhhhgjghvcy yeah,make sense but you can tell who is the main dancer there by only watching their movements,I mean they don't even take their time to look at the rest, they just said "oh okay it's wonbin"

FR!! imo shotaro, ni-ki (enhypen) and soul (p1harmony) are the best male dancers of 4th gen(and shotaro is also 5th gen technically, so he’s the best of both gens imo)!! and all japanese too 😎

No one named him main dancer of the generation lmao... However Leeknow and Hyunjin of Stray Kids and Yunho of ATEEZ are top tier, EASY!

Ni-ki from Enhypen is the best 4th gen dancer

@@spookysins4784who named these guys the best dancers?You and delusional fans?LMAO.Touch some grass.Taro is WAY better than mentioned ones.No one asked your opinion and recognition.

@@bryannagutierrez2093In what world he is the best?LOL.He is far from “the best” when Shotaro exists.

Totally

agree. Wonbin might the “main” dancer or the group center KPOP wise, but I think shotaro is the best dancer DaNcE wise (background, training, etc)

Damn right they are!!! 🧡

i miss seunghan

@@kecoaganteng samee

Agree 🔥🔥🔥

yeah the groovy trio

YES‼️

Agree.

Agree 100%

Is this a professional opinion?

@@irenesara455shotaro is literally better and was a dancer before he was an idol?? These ppl in the video were clearly biased towards wonbin lmaoo

Shotaro was already a professional dancer, so he only had to train his vocals and stage presence at SM

둘다잘하는디 제눈엔 원빈이 더잘춰보이네여.. 춤알못이라 그런듯

@@user-zq2cu4vp4q 아뇨아뇨 그럴 수 있죠 ㅎㅎㅎ 둘 다 자랑스러운 라이즈의 메인댄서들이니

Yesss I feel like that’s what I love about RIIZE dance line like they’re all amazing but dance style is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT like COMPLETELY 😭 like YKKK COMPLETELY

Main dancer is also Wonbin

@@AL-ui5mu a momo and mina situation there. both deserve the titles but Shotaro is alot more skilled from technical standpoint.

@@raksmeyhan2744 yeah mina is actually far away for being a main dancer bcz jihyo and sana are way better than her

Sht up

Facts

fr

Ain’t he in the dance line so yes he is

I love his moves in siren!! Miss him :/

"Wonbin biased" haha!😂😂 Literally the only person they knew from the group was Shotaro because he was in NCT. It should be completely the other way around, No one is discrediting Shotaro, but Wonbin already has all the qualities of a main dancer. He is just as good as Shotaro, if not even better in some aspects. They both have their own strong point, and where the other one lacks, the other one delivers. This isnt an opinion of someone who stans them, but just someone who watched only their dances.

@@jennaeveliina313 Huh? Just because they knew Shotaro since his NCT days, does not mean they can't be Wonbin biased. They knew who Wonbin is based on the reaction at 0:57. Who is to say they have not seen the group before this? Even if they do not know who he is before, their reaction here is not one of a professional dancer but like a fangirl. If they changed their title to "Fangirls finding their favourite dancer", no one will say a thing. "Wonbin is as good as Shotaro, if not even better in some aspects"??? This statement is as ridiculous as the ones that says Wonbin is as good as or even better than Sohee in singing, cos the main dancer and main vocalist positions in riize are pretty obvious. Impossible is out, so please take a look at that before you say something so ridiculous. You think Wonbin can dance better than Shotaro, or at the very least be as good as him, in Impossible's dance break? Stop setting the man up. And do you know why SM has Shotaro taking over the dance break in their songs? Cos Shotaro is the main dancer is why. Fortunately the trainers and choreographers in SM are professionals and level-headed enough to pick the right person for the right parts.

They both dance well

@@Eat_and_Live17 yes that’s right

ㅇㅇ 둘다 춤잘함

It is their opinion, you need to respect other ppl’s opinion please

@@summerxu9091 It is my opinion, you need to respect my opinion please. And I respect their opinions and I sympathize with them.

All of them obviously knew about shotaro. Then, how are they biased?

Ikr it's Wonbin effect I think 🤔

Ikr!!

I usually don’t get in comments but hi i’m thaj from the vid, tbh we were trying to figure out based off what we were shown and I have no clue who’s who until this video not even going to lie,, we were torn btwn shotaro and wonbin I feel like in the things they showed us I was able to see wonbins skill more? I know shotaro is a dancer esp after reading these comments 😭 but in solely what they showed us it was hard to completely tell.. we were only shown two songs so i’m not sure of the rest of the discography or any covers or anything they’ve done so I couldn’t give a proper 100% analysis :( thank you for watching though!

both are main dancers...

they have no official positions tho. Plus Wonbin also have the qualifications to be a main dancer

Omg. Wonbin's stan attacking me. 😨😆

​@shemirylgo6277 they obviously have based on their performances, qualities and who gets dance breaks and stuff. you can't say a professional dancer and cheographer isn't the main dancer of this group lmaooo

@@Kiki-sr9vc attacking you? 😂

It's giving Taeyong. How does SM find these people?

wait reallyy ?? he’s crazy good in dancing

He is better singer too along with sohee lol

yeah also for mark how they train them ???@@aneopurpleblink77

Considering how young they scout idols, that's not surprising. I could imagine that to be the norm. What is not is getting someone like Shotaro or Lee know that already have a ton of experience

Wonbin literally carried most of siren performance

진짜 라이즈 여섯명 진짜 너무 좋음 이미 완성형인애들도 많고 이찬영 성장형인데 너무 성장해버림 데뷔쇼 사이렌이랑 마마사이렌이랑 비교하면 엄청난 차이가 남

Seunghan is part of the dance line don't forget him@@user-tp9ch6du9t

this channel is biased, they actually don’t know anything about dancing

Shotaro is such a great dancer but he also has the ability to not stand out actively or draw attention to himself unless you're actively looking at him, then you notice how great he is. Which i think comes with pros and cons. I think it's a skill that alot of backup or professional dancers have learned

I don’t think the riize team push him to be seen as much as shotaro so it’s subtle. I’m the choreo they’re often telling us who to look at

​​​@@elinama7061 he can actually draw attention if he wants too, if you actually watched him predebut or in nct you would notice it. it's probably to not overshadow his members as he is told to do. I mean, if he shows his full potential he gonna devour them all 😂 and SM won't allow that, if we logically talk, because at the end of the day, a foreigner is a foreigner. just like they did to lay and ten who are objectively better dancers in their teams. imagine if a professional dancer like shotaro does it? he gonna get scolded or even worse for sure 💀

@@eveeve-tl8fc yeah that’s exactly what I mean, he can draw attention but he’s learned to not unless he’s in the front or doing a dance break for example because it would distract ppl if his skill is visibly higher than everyone else’s. He’s learned to blend in when it’s needed

No wonbin is better

ppl trained for years and couldn't come up with a choreo. dude can't even freestyle or dance without shotaro next to him to follow his moves but yall believe what sm says like stfu 😂😂

Jaiwjwjjw like shotaro is really an amazing dancer

they are doing this for clout obviously 😂 imagine some "pro dancer" not recognizing a fellow one and only focusing on the center/visual by watching his stuff and ignoring the main point which is dance? so ridiculously funny

@@qlwrs that is true....but Wonbin isn't just a center/visual people wanted him to be.....he's a reaaly good dancer (of course after Taro) and a charismatic performer.

@@SGS317 he really is but it's odd for said pro dancers not to notice how shotaro stands out technically even though several other members, including wonbin, are very good too

@@FairyAl I agreed with your first comment. I replied to the other person actually who said Wonbin is just a center/visual. And yes , I agree Shotaro is better than Wonbin , there isn't any dout about it. But I won't agree when people lable Wonbin as a "just a visual / center" , when he's clearly more than that.

their opinion is quite biased. If you have watched their other videos you will realize that they have no idea about dancing. these kind of videos are there to push their own favorites lol.

@@didobu yeah i understood it when i saw nct dream video. i love mark with my whole heart, he's one of the best and grooviest open dancers in the whole industry, but he's NAWT better than THE park jisung😭

@@henolongerneedsme IKR😭 Jisung deserves so much more recognition.. also the reaction about itzy & stray kids. They always choose the most popular members and not based on ability or talent. i mean ofc the members who are in the center stand out more, but you should be able to differentiate between technique and performing.

@@didobu who did they choose in the itzy one? cuz i'd def say it's yeji when it comes to hip-hop and chaeryong when it comes to idol dancing...

@@henolongerneedsme it was ryujin

Agree 👍🏻👍🏻

No 😂😂😂 stop lying and accept that wonbin is better dancer that shotaro 😂😂

@@MiriChan-kk2vz 원빈 춤 매우 잘추는거 모두가 인정함 하지만 멤버들도 메인댄서는 쇼타로 인정함 팬들도 마찬가지임

@@user-lx3wq2bs6b i don’t understand Korean bro

wonbin is also the main dancer of riize. stop denying his skills.

​@dbaebaez no he is not 😂 stop lying and imposing things on us 😅

@@qlwrs you’re lying to yourself. Stop imposing things on us. We all know wonbin is main dancer.

@@emmajamshira9639 so you are saying shotaro is not the main dancer? yall lost your minds for real. well, okay then dumbass 😂

@@dbaebaez stfu dbaebaez no one wants your dumb opinion

What about anton and sungchan? Sungchan has been an idol for a lot of years now but his dancing still lacks?

근데 저는 항상 원빈이 눈에 들어오더라구요? 완급 조절을 더 잘하는느낌.. 왜 센터인지 알겠는.. 물론 쇼타로도 항상 가볍게 잘춤

뭐야?????? 사람마다 취향이 다를 수 있지

@@aliciapark6241성찬이 부족하다는 것이 아니다. 그는 이미 인정받았기에 다른 멤버들도 칭찬한 것으로 보임. 쇼타로도 인정 받았는데 왜 또 칭찬하냐고 묻는다면 그는 캡 킹왕짱 잘추기 때문.

​@@aliciapark6241 Sungchan lack so much talents compare to the other members tbh. Not that good at singing and rapping are so so too. People hype him mostly coz of "ex nct" and his height lol

You should not pay attention to this channel because they are quite biased. They usually choose the person who stands out more (center) than the real dancer. Watch the other videos and you will realize that they don't really know much about dancing.

“We love Wonbin” who we? You definitely don’t care about him pls. Wonbin can AND SHOULD BE PRAISED. He is also main dancer and choreographer. You got so much jealous and showed your hypocrisy

@@AL-ui5mu are you serious right now? My comment showed that I am frustrated that they didn't show shotaro that much even when his known as pro dancer. Even riize members acknowledge that shotaro's performance on stage is amazing. Don't twist my words

No no wonbin is better dancer than shotaro just accept that 😂😂😂

both shotaro and wonbin are main dancers

Seunghan is gone MOVE on

@@brendao.o8138why do wonbin stans hate seunghan so much it’s getting weird. and no he’s not out of the group so shut the fck up

​@@brendao.o8138He is not !

@@brendao.o8138 he isnt

Shotaro debuted earlier. People already set up their minds

@@irenesara455 Nah, I watched many pro dancers who reacted to RIIZE and they have not seen Shotaro in NCT before, but they were all able to pick him out just because of how he danced. They were able to vocalise the reasons that Shotaro caught their eyes - how wide his movements were, the angle he picked, how sharp he moved, that extra bounce he gave, how on beat he was, how his head stayed while his body turned before he completed the rotation. Some of you are weird, is it so difficult to acknowledge that Shotaro is the better dancer? He was a pro dancer before he came to Korea and had been a teacher too. Rather, you sound like you have already set up your mind because you like Wonbin. You can like Wonbin's dance style, charisma, personality and face, but Shotaro is the better dancer and that is a fact.

@@CLC20245 OK

@@CLC20245 I agree what all that. The thing is for example at the fancon the "joy" performance. Both shotaro and wonbin danced exactly the same, but they're also times where wonbin did wider and more accentuated moves. What is the explanation?

@@irenesara455 I think you are missing the point. Shotaro is a better dancer overall, but of course there will be times that Wonbin may dance well too. By the way, a wider and accentuated move does not necessarily means that it's good. It depends on the type of dance, what is to be expressed in the performance and dynamics are super important too. An example of what I've seen recently, during the fancon, Wonbin and Sohee danced to nct dream's Smoothie side by side. Wonbin's moves were really wide and accentuated, but it ended up looking like his arms were flaying about, and Sohee while not having wide movements looked so much better. It's about the control and angle too. And then you should see Shotaro dancing to Smoothie, his control was impeccable. Basically, wide does not mean better, there are so many things to it.

GRITALO LEONA 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

sn should use him more he is underrated compared to his skills

그래서요? 원빈이는 잘 추면 큰일나나요? 참내

What is hard for him then? 😂

ㄹㅇ 댄브가 있다고 해도 아이돌 춤 특정상 쇼타로가 개인 기량을 전부 보여줄 수 없음... 진짜 딱 각 잡고 춤 춰줬으면... 스튜디오 춤 이런 거ㅠㅠㅠ 원빈이랑 둘이 같이 나와도 너무 좋을 듯

imo i think they mentioned seunghan but got edited out bcs of he still on hiatus and when the trio part in gag dance break they didnt input seunghans name bcs of the same reason

better not to mention anyone problematic until the hiatus is over and sorted out.

everyone has different tastes buddy

@@hayli8998i think it goes beyond taste, im pretty sure they’re just surprised they didn’t mention him bc they are PROFESIONAL dancers and typically professionals tend to notice more on the little things that he for example does, more than the average person like you and me for example.

@@hayli8998 judging professional dancing skills isn't primarily based on taste. and yes, Seunghan is OBJECTIVELY one of the better dancers in the group

I mean yeah but this was about dancing not charisma or whatever, they're supposed to be dancers lmaoo

Totally agree 🤌🏻

I agree with youuu

exactly!!!

​@@FairyAl is shotaro the center?

ショウタロウがダンスが上手だということを否定しているのではありません 問題は、彼がアイドルではなくダンサーのように見えすぎることです いい意味ではない）

@@user-di9wu3dh1x それは同感です。ショウタロウはダンスがめっちゃ上手いのに、ダンス中の魅力的な表情やアピールが足りないですよね。しかし、ウォンビンはそれらを上手にできます。 ただし、ウォンビンのファンの人達の中には、ショウタロウのダンススキルを軽視している人がいるのも事実です。(この動画のコメント欄にもそのようなコメントが多くあります。) 私は正直、事務所がウォンビンを一際目立たせようとしているのが気に入らないのです…😢 例えば、ウォンビンはソヒと同じくらい身長が低いのに、一人だけ厚底靴を履いています。そのようにして写真を撮ると、ソヒだけ小さく見えるのでソヒが可哀想です。さらに、本来ならショウタロウの方が身長が高いのに、ショウタロウの方が小さく見えることもあり、ショウタロウが可哀想です。さらに、衣装面でも、ウォンビンのトップスだけ他のメンバーより明らかに丈が短く、腹筋を見せるように仕向けています。これも、事務所の策略だと思います…😢 もっとメンバーを平等に扱ってほしいです🥹

​@@a.k.s.8485 ウォンビンを一際目立たせようとしているのが なくすごく目立つ むしろそちらのほうがウォンビンを軽視している感じです。 人気順、外見順、全般的な能力から見て、誰が見てもウォンビンがセンターであり、本国でも最近アイドルブランドの評判で1位を占めた、芸能人も言及し続けるアイドルです。 ブランド評判でライズの中で一番低い順位を記録した人もショウタロウで、大衆の好感度に反応する事務所の態度は当然なのに、なぜある日本人は変な主張をするのか分かりません。 ショウタロウが初めてNCTで公開された時、 どれだけ悪口を言われたのか知っていますか？ 幸いダンスが上手でなくなった反応です。 実物のレビューを見ると、ソヒが一番小さいのが正しく、メンバーの半分がすでにショウタロウより背が高いのに、意味がないと思います。 そしてウォンビンのトップを短くして腹筋を見せるのもファンの反応がいいからです。 同じ事務所のNCT中国メンバーたちもライブからウォンビンの実物を見てとてもハンサムだ すごくほめたと言ったくらいですが、これ以上説明は必要ないと思います。 一言で要約すると本国の人気順 需要があってこそ供給がある。

@@user-di9wu3dh1xthanks for your kind words!

It’s true that Wonbin is the center because of his skills and his ability to attract people’s attention not because his height. It’s really rude and low when you bring someone down to make your bias shine better. My favorite member is Wonbin but I also think Shotaro is the best dancer in Riize. However, anyone can have their own oppinion so for this video you can leave comment but please do not make into a war. For your info, in Exo the center is Kai who is tall.

Right? It's insane, I love them both they are such an amazing dancer

Agree. Shotaro in Universe (NCT-U) is one of the masterpieces.

I can’t believe SM hid him for so long. He’s got it all

And he is the most popular too in the group. 🤭 mind you, SM make him stay as hidden trainee until riize debut and he never got that exposure to media like "smrookies" tag unlike other members or being "ex nct" or having a famous father! Just read the comments here, you can see other stans are really insecure and jealous when ppl keep praising him instead of their favs lol

@@oo-mw9wm and wonbin always gets backhanded compliments, makes me sad😭

​@@oo-mw9wmgirlie 😂😂 shotaro is better dancer than wonbin its not hard to accept that

@@taemmate nobody cares??? I TALK ABOUT ABOUT WONBIN HERE LOL other members fans are so funny whenever someone praise only wonbin lmao