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The Difference Between Old & New Raze (Raze Satchel Nerf) 

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After the recent Raze nerfs I wanted to test out and see what is still doable. Can you still reach the same satchel jumps you could before? In this video I show you side by sides on how bad the Raze nerf is, or is it that bad at all?
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@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
After playing around with Raze, it turns out the nerf really isn't that bad but I will have to get in customs and practise the new timing 💥
@mathissu_
@mathissu_ Месяц назад
Yes well speak for yourself x) damn it's hard to get used to this difference for me this nerf is hard especially on certain technical jumps where I still had trouble being consistent like ascent gen to wall and with this nerf I have to relearn certain jumps and yes the muscle memory has to be redone it's a pain.
@samx23
@samx23 Месяц назад
what do u think about its' new sound ? and yeah i'm surprised the nerf isn't as bad as i thought it would be but i hate the sound it makes now
@FlakernGaming
@FlakernGaming Месяц назад
So basically, I guess they did to make raze easier to hit during air time.
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
ig
@rakshith_a_m272
@rakshith_a_m272 Месяц назад
The first update was nice after the nerf raze its not good😢
@spacesalmon9131
@spacesalmon9131 Месяц назад
This is literally i noticed after the nerf. The horizontal distance isn't really the problem you can still do most of the jumps, it's the speed that makes the timings bit off.
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
ye the speed messes a lot of stuff up
@koshkamatew
@koshkamatew 27 дней назад
Raze satchels feel like you are being dragged through mud now, and if you try doing something risky, you get shot at like an aimlabs target
@andrewbartlett7717
@andrewbartlett7717 Месяц назад
love the dual comparisons!
@Optimus4j
@Optimus4j Месяц назад
1 min ago is wild. Great video brother❤ This is a great comparison
@Dakshchandel-ym2jd
@Dakshchandel-ym2jd Месяц назад
yo gray i love your videos man !!! keep going bud. also could you please make a tutorial video of how to use satchels like you? would really appreciate it ..💫
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
i would say i have some but will maybe have to make a new one now with the nerf
@akshayjain3130
@akshayjain3130 Месяц назад
Yes plz make that brother ​@@grayfps
@ytanzuii960
@ytanzuii960 Месяц назад
You can see that gray is consistent with his satchels and movement, love it man!
@TechnologyHell
@TechnologyHell Месяц назад
My man is literally the most unaffected Raze player alive on this planet. btw can we have a tutorial for the box jump on ascent a site entrance ?
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
i have put it in one of my videos, cant remember which one but it wasnt the greatest guide on it. will probably put in it another video or make a short explaining how to do it :)
@LaFreMD
@LaFreMD 12 дней назад
Hey, this might be what you're looking for: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8aR5uAgnLxo.html That's the first Gray's vid I ever came accross and stayed forever🎉
@LaFreMD
@LaFreMD 12 дней назад
Hey, this might be what you're looking for: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8aR5uAgnLxo.html That's the first Gray's vid I ever came accross and stayed forever🎉
@gunjd
@gunjd Месяц назад
Are you not playing a lot these days!? I really love your videos man. If you could keep them coming
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
i play about 4-6 games a day or sometimes none, only play with friends instead of solo queueing into depression
@supazt
@supazt Месяц назад
Make tutorial on box jump please on ascent 🤔🤔
@Snapiex
@Snapiex Месяц назад
You are soo good with the satchels it doesnt even look raze has been nerfed 😂
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
❤️
@fireninblue4550
@fireninblue4550 Месяц назад
Can you make a new raze guide for the nerf? It would really be nice if you did because I can’t really do satechels anymore after the update 😅
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
Might do yeah, got to really practise all the jumps myself. The timing change really messes with the muscle memory at times.
@nek0desu
@nek0desu Месяц назад
I WANT MY SATCHELS TO BE AS CLEAN AS URS ...ALSO PLZ DO LONG VIDEOS OF U GOING ALL OVER THE MAPS WITH SATCHELS IT IS SO SATISFYING TO WATCH !
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
thanks my guy, not to sure how i could make long videos doing that because they are usually quite short routes :)
@miloticash
@miloticash Месяц назад
@@grayfps do a floor is lava of all good maps for raze
@hammy3060
@hammy3060 11 дней назад
Since valo is now out on console, is jumping around the map like this also possible on controller?
@grayfps
@grayfps 11 дней назад
Not sure, I would assume so 🤔
@rxphantxm
@rxphantxm Месяц назад
Raze satchel didn get nerfed. Raze just started eating better 😭
@anelhad2449
@anelhad2449 Месяц назад
Hello, thank you for the before/after. I am trying to learn this move on console (lol yes) and I am really confusing about HOW you are doing such a big jump with the 2nd satchel. I've tried several timing, I can go really high or really far, but I can't do both at the same time. Is there something am I missing ? Need to jump or crouch or something like that ? All is about the timing of the first satchel ? i'm really impressive about your jump, specially and ASCENT (that's what I'm trying to reproduce) Thank you in advance for the answer !!
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
With every jump, there are different timings. It's really a case of tial and error and working out what you're doing wrong. Getting speed off the first satchel and height off the second has always been the case with Satchels but now that they are different with the nerf, they are a lot harder to do and time and even harder most likely on console but you got it my guy. I'm curious if you played Valorant on PC before console or only on console?
@anelhad2449
@anelhad2449 Месяц назад
The timing concerns the first satchel, as I understand that the second one always follows directly after the first, right? And I understood that I just need to deal with the satchel button, not the jump or the croutch or whatever ? I've played Valorant on PC for about 30 hours, but I'm just not good with mnk, it was painful. I've played FPS games with a controller for over 15 years, so I'm taking the opportunity to play Valorant with a controller now
@anelhad2449
@anelhad2449 Месяц назад
@@grayfps Sorry for the second message, but I've realized something. The timing actually concerns the second satchel, right? You need sometimes to throw it in advance and detonate it a bit after throwing it? Am I on the right way? Ahahaha
@1BladeIRL
@1BladeIRL 23 дня назад
@@anelhad2449 I can do the same jumps as Gray, and yes you're right. Second satchel is the one that matters and the one that changes if your getting height, distance or both combined. Also, where you're looking depends too. If you look straight down you'll get more distance, if you're looking a little bit up from your feet in front of you, you'll get more height. Extra tip: the further you fall before detonating your satchel, the more momentum you get. Good luck.
@anelhad2449
@anelhad2449 23 дня назад
@@1BladeIRL Thank you very much for your help. Yeah that's really the timing of the 2nd one that fck me up. It's always pushing me in front, without any heigh, no matter if I'm watching me feet, the sky.. lol
@_itseskay
@_itseskay Месяц назад
Great video, Gray! exactly what content i was waiting for. i was trying to practice Raze again in Custom Game and figure out if she was still really possible and playable with her double satchels movements. And yes, it's not really bad because I feel like now I need to focus on the double satchels momentum, which means it needs more effort while timing the second satchels to hit all the Raze spots, even though she feels slower. but yeah. It's not that easy anymore to double-satchel without extra focusing on the momentum of her second satchels. But damn man, we finally got the Raze nerf raze mains always afraid of.
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
i always knew it was coming but expected it sooner, i guess we can be glad its not as bad as we all thought it was going to be and get practising
@nadeflare
@nadeflare Месяц назад
i don’t think the problem with this nerf is really in the jumps themselves, i feel like double satcheling in just won’t be viable anymore though because it’s so easy to get shot out of the air
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
single satchelling is nerfed more i feel, just dont go for jumps that you float in the air and you have less chance of getting tapped
@ahmadax2
@ahmadax2 Месяц назад
the nerf imo affects single satchels more than double satchels before you would buy a judge and satchel in get a kill and satchel out which i found harder to pull off now because satchels are slower and dont cover as much distance
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
im not an avid judge player so i wouldnt know but im glad it affects that tbh, hopefully a judge nerf next :)
@AttaraVicente
@AttaraVicente Месяц назад
yaps
@squishysalt5338
@squishysalt5338 Месяц назад
@@grayfpsblud what
@onfroysszq
@onfroysszq Месяц назад
According to my observations, Raze satchels getting Nerf will pave the way for more consistent and controlled entry into tight spaces using packs.
@ojassharma3162
@ojassharma3162 Месяц назад
They nerf raze everytime, bro neon now is crazy, she just shoots while dashing, its insane
@shifteyyy
@shifteyyy 6 дней назад
theyve made raze easier to hit in the air while making neon a speed demon
@razzeoyt
@razzeoyt Месяц назад
Thanks for this wonderful video ( Raze Main BRO's )
@StaticMMIV
@StaticMMIV Месяц назад
tbh seeing all the satchels cover almost the same amount of distance, its not even that bad of a change my objective humble opinion: no they didnt kill raze
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
i don't think so either, but you definitely feel the change when it comes to the longer satchels which sucks but practise make perfect :)
@carlomiranda6231
@carlomiranda6231 22 дня назад
Im on console and have been trying the jump at 1:40 but i can never get the second satchel to give me enough height, same thing on the way back. Any tips?
@inferno572
@inferno572 11 дней назад
No way we got console players now
@konoyaro15
@konoyaro15 Месяц назад
bro your satchel so good
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
Thanks man
@BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMval
@BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMval Месяц назад
fk it. fine. i will queue ranked. i think i needed to see this video. ty dad
@cube3156
@cube3156 Месяц назад
you can't just fuck it we ball into backsite anymore exposed because you get shot out of the air, same distance but you're an easier target now
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
Yeee, it sucks 👎
@Ruwnw.jp3
@Ruwnw.jp3 Месяц назад
slower but same distance coverage
@TheOssie98
@TheOssie98 Месяц назад
for you perhaps this isn't a big nerf since the devs cater to the pro scene who are already mechanical demons, but for regular people like me this is horrible
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
definitely a big nerf, got to relearn timings for raze
@sha2ahs
@sha2ahs Месяц назад
Pardon me, but your fantastic satchel movements in the new Abyss map are giving me acrophobic vibes 😨.
@diggus
@diggus Месяц назад
No matter how hard I try I can’t land the wall to gen jump on ascemt
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
yeah, its not easy and honestly not worth doing unless you have a decent flasher on your team
@ivan_valerian
@ivan_valerian Месяц назад
People are misinterpreting the patch note. It's the speed when you're flying that was changed. Not the distance.
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
if you do the same satchels as before then you don't reach the same distance, the timing has changed due to the speed change so you need to almost throw different satchels that aren't as clean as before
@Beneowkzuue
@Beneowkzuue 21 день назад
Haven 0:27 Ascent 1:30 Icebox 2:35 Bind 3:43 Abyss 4:38
@arshakhtar9207
@arshakhtar9207 Месяц назад
Looks like she just loses her speed faster with the left right rotations of mouse.
@iLikeSnowFoxes
@iLikeSnowFoxes Месяц назад
Btw you can go from a main to a tower in 2 sactels
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
What map?
@iLikeSnowFoxes
@iLikeSnowFoxes Месяц назад
@@grayfps abyss sorry for not saying it in the initial comment
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
ye i dont know why i didnt show that tbf, i was mainly showing an example of what i done in my abyss video that i triple boosted, got one and went into heaven
@polarpower1062
@polarpower1062 Месяц назад
Long answer yes short answer yes
@FIZzyWater2.0
@FIZzyWater2.0 Месяц назад
I feel like i want raze E to be the satchel...
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
Been preaching this but will never happen
@sympleanimation5229
@sympleanimation5229 Месяц назад
although the nerf isnt as bad as it looks, it definitely feels off when playing raze after the nerfs
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
Yeah, it feels sluggish
@jrm8206
@jrm8206 Месяц назад
Nah, after 43 nerfs since launce, she needs about 15 more. Removing the ROCKET might be a cool one.
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
No no no
@anglerfish61
@anglerfish61 Месяц назад
ah the God himself we are fine. So we are fine. Good :)
@None-ij2ry
@None-ij2ry Месяц назад
thank god they didnt kill my baby
@i_am_insane
@i_am_insane Месяц назад
Bro sounds so sad 😞 😢 throughout the video Feels like he’s mourning raze’s nerf/death 🪦
@Misugai
@Misugai Месяц назад
My answer before the video is yes, only cuz now it isn't as fun being super fast lol After Video: I still wanna say yes due to losing the speed BUT even as a Raze main, honestly I think this is the PERFECT way to nerf any character. She's still viable/playable but just requires like you said a bit more timing precision on the satchels. Sad nerf to Raze mains but overall good nerf that didn't completely kill the character
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
ye i agree with ya
@V1kizhereee
@V1kizhereee Месяц назад
She got even harder to play due to her being very vulnerable mid air, but ye this is an understandable nerf
@realemcy
@realemcy Месяц назад
Whats ur Edpi? Or rather ur sens and ur dpi?
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
.477 400dpi
@realemcy
@realemcy Месяц назад
@@grayfps wow u will need a huge mousepad. I play 800dpi and .3 sens
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
ye got a desk one
@mulagzzly
@mulagzzly Месяц назад
Abyss jumps 4:49
@Justetheamoi
@Justetheamoi Месяц назад
in immo/rad i get one taps in air time so now i will die easier xd
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
i got shot out the air too in ranked but ig we got to get even more used to it lol
@mralphak2873
@mralphak2873 Месяц назад
what is ur sens?
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
400dpi 0.444
@user-pj4yu9vw7p
@user-pj4yu9vw7p Месяц назад
Super boosting still work?
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
yes
@A1zeNvl
@A1zeNvl Месяц назад
Now raze needs actual skills to play
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
she always did, when it comes to the people that play her without a judge every round
@beastzz255
@beastzz255 Месяц назад
Honestly, they killed Raze with this Nerf 😢
@kehmer
@kehmer Месяц назад
its not the worst but its definitely annoying. and neon buff makes me mad
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
i mean neon getting a buff means a couple agents to play now :)
@kehmer
@kehmer Месяц назад
@@grayfps I have personal beef with neon players I might have to become one of em
@cime62
@cime62 Месяц назад
So basically they are all doable, but harder to do, and slower so that the enemy has a chance to hit you... Fair
@rxshhorde7373
@rxshhorde7373 Месяц назад
Would you still consider raze viable?
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
ye she will still be meta i think, not everyone satchels around like this and use raze to gain some space while her nade, boombot and ult are all high impact
@ThatOneDudz
@ThatOneDudz Месяц назад
Neon with 2 slides but one shockwave:
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
neon does seem fun
@ThatOneDudz
@ThatOneDudz Месяц назад
@@grayfps ikr I love using neon bro but I suck please don't mind my video it's my old gameplay.
@BuzzKora
@BuzzKora Месяц назад
Raze is a cypher trap kill bot, what a shame. Grenades are too strong, everything else is complete crap...
@malaria4017
@malaria4017 Месяц назад
yes they did ruin her her special thing satcheling isn't as fun
@sohamgadekar5879
@sohamgadekar5879 Месяц назад
so basically nerf raze players not satchels
@hellguyop
@hellguyop Месяц назад
They just slowed her
@yusufcicek1150
@yusufcicek1150 Месяц назад
is it me or does the 2nd satchel have a different sound*? disgusting
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
ye it does and its exactly what you said, disgusting
@jjaytee
@jjaytee Месяц назад
this is why flights left the game :(
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
2 years ago? haha
@chillbite4518
@chillbite4518 Месяц назад
145 views in 3mins you didnt fall off dw
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
lol
@ehabaziz7996
@ehabaziz7996 Месяц назад
this nerf wasn't enough for you buddy
@vesperflute9030
@vesperflute9030 Месяц назад
I feel bad for all the Raze players, getting all that muscle memory and feeling and then this. It's like you get used to driving a motorcycle and now you have to drive a truck. I really hope they reverse this and only make the sound more audible from a distance. Also the new sound is horrible.
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
i mean it sucks but i was expecting waaaay worse and yeah, the new sound is horrible
@toyamint
@toyamint Месяц назад
First xD
@houndcraft1590
@houndcraft1590 Месяц назад
no body cares get a life
@Z1ck9
@Z1ck9 Месяц назад
Alwasy learning from you gray, first comment 😼😼
@houndcraft1590
@houndcraft1590 Месяц назад
no one cares
@Keiotaka
@Keiotaka Месяц назад
Ofc gray wouldnt be affected but players like me who have not the best movement are greatly affected as we already were having trouble with some jumps now the nerf just makes ir even harder for us to do them... horrible nerf imo nerfing the only skill based ability in her kit was definitely not the move.
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
They definitely nerfed me haha, this is in a custom. It will take some practise to get them down in actual immo lobbies, especially the harder jumps, but I enjoy playing Raze too much to not give it a go
@preech3647
@preech3647 Месяц назад
Yall op crutchs are whats wrong with the joke of an fps that is val
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
huh?
@TempIsWild
@TempIsWild Месяц назад
Dang bro 16 views 1 minute you fell off
@grayfps
@grayfps Месяц назад
was wondering when i was finally gonna see the "you fell off" stuff in my comments 😂
@TempIsWild
@TempIsWild Месяц назад
@@grayfpsI got u brodie
@preech3647
@preech3647 Месяц назад
Loser raze mains
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