He is putting in the work I think he kinda took it personally the fans kinda counting him out like he doesn’t have what it takes to compete on tour now
This was GOLD! I just love your humility Paul. Shows a true example of your character! That's why YOU'RE MY FAVORITE lol but for real... And Simons ability to just make it in from anywhere with minimal effort is wild!
What you see is the result of years and years of effort, and Simon is right he has trained his muscle memory to the point that his muscles correct his mind sometimes. Uli os right to keep chipping away at Simon here, because the hardest people to get (valuable) information from are the ones that say " It just feels right/ good and I don't think about it. But as you can tell Simon def. Knows!. Awesome video!
its the connection between the leg power and arm. You dont really use that much arm, its like the back hand, timing is everything. When i feel oh this is so far and i use my arm alot i cant get it there. When i relax and dont rush the arm i get effortless power, the trick is to be consistent with it like all other things.
@@budtron183 I'm pretty decent with longer putts... until there's a random branch that I hit 40 feet away. Where'd THAT come from? (trees move, I swear)
First off, this is A+ content that us fans love to see! Secondly, Simon’s idea of practicing 90-100 footers more in hopes of making 30-40 footers feel easier is a good idea. Lastly, it’s insane that he simply doesn’t even think of the stressors that 99% of players do. He’s a robot in that regard and I wish I had an ounce of that talent.
I think the key thing that nobody talks about is smooth acceleration. Simon shoots pool so this concept is already natural to him because it is crucial in pool, you draw back slow and accelerate smoothly through the ball while holding the cue gently. Even when breaking at max speed, you don't draw back at max speed you draw back slowly or you introduce positional errors on the backswing. If you're already out of position how could you expect to deliver an accurate shot on the follow through? For longer putts try to avoid throwing it harder, instead use more legs. I learned this by watching Brodie Smith do the Putt360 challenge and he told himself when he missed the longer ones, "needs more legs"
You need more of THIS type of content. What an awesome snapshot of two world class players. This is something serious you’re onto here. Start a series of this type of exact content. A revolving series of different pros practicing what they’re good and bad at. We all love disc golf, we all struggle and we all try get better. Showing the processes of pros is such great content. It levels the playing field and gives viewers insight to how hard you all work. Thank you for the coolest disc golf content I could ever imagine!!
Absolutely love these type of videoes ❤ Seeing that you really good disc-golfers also wanna improve and get better, and helping each other is just pure gold to watch. Thank you!
Simon’s little smile at 10:10 is hilarious. I’d be pretty pleased with myself too. You can tell he just has a fun spirit about him and doesn’t like to be too serious.
Many business men say “enjoy what you’re doing”. I think that’s the main takeaway on this one. Simon enjoys it. He doesn’t think about the form, it just comes because he enjoys it. Brilliant video 👍
The times that my putting is best is when I'm relaxed and the putt flows out of my hand. When I get nervous or tense, then I shank it, or more often don't even reach the basket. I love how Simon explains his approach to putting.
I LOVE how teachable you have stayed throughout your carrier. You are CLEARLY an expert on disc golf and one of the best examples of how we should all be. Thanks Paul
This is the type of video I was hoping Simon would do for the Power DGA lol. Don't get me wrong, I love the ones he did, but I struggle so much with C2 putts also. This video was super helpful and definitely gave me some things to work on and try 😁. Thank you coach Simon and Coach Uli 🤘.
This was fascinating! I'm with you, Uli, in that I've just never understood how Simon can make his putts from 80 look the same as from 30. To me, they're two entirely different things and the first is *way* harder than the second. This video has gotten me thinking about some stuff I hadn't before! Thank you!
Ironically, the best putting tip I'd learned was from Simon during Vlogmas a few years ago. He was putting in his basement, and did 100 shots, then counted up his misses. He said "missing to the right doesn't bother me as much since it means I over committed" Then it all clicked with me since I had NO confidence at all in my putting. So I simply just switched my stance sideways so I HAVE to follow through. I rarely miss left anymore, and forcing myself to commit is all it took for me.
Man this was the best honest video I have watched of all DG/putting vids, and I love that fast forward putting sesh at the end that was so cool to watch, can't wait to watch you on tour this year Uli you're going to smash it bro 🥏
This is the content we needed. I am a high school tennis coach. It’s funny to hear other athletes talk about practice. I am going to share Simon’s comment about practice with them today. Love of the game. Thanks Uli! I wish you would ask Simon what lines he sees on tee shots. Since you both do not throw the same distance, it would be interesting to hear your perspectives. I am not talking about Simon lines either. I am referring to height of tee shots and why discing up or down makes sense. As an example on a 350 par 3, what the line would be throwing a fairway and why but also same thing with a mid.
i think some of the strength that Simon has is that he's comfortable with taking deferent lines in his putts. like he's not stressing about the line because no matter how it looks he has a line that can make it to the basket. straight in. dump in from the right. he's comfortable in his versatility and that why he can go by feel.
100% sure that is not the key. His timing between his legs and arm is though. You really do put with your legs. The trick is to transfer that power into the arm and into the disc just like the backhand. You cant do that if you put alot of effort in throwing with your arm, it tenses up and fucks everything.
Simon's tip about putting from 90-100ft is so spot on. When I started playing I bought a basket and left it at my Dad's house. I would try and get him to putt in circle 1, but he just wanted to try and throw it in, rather than putt. I started jump putting from around 90 ft and it was the best thing for my game. I struggle off the tee; being out of position and still having an opportunity to run a putt or lay it next to the basket saves a lot of rounds.
Simon is just the Steph Curry of Disc Golf. Perfect timing with his body so no power is wasted. You can see it really well when he is step putting from 100'. The push off with his foot and the release of the disc is identical timing to his short putts... he is just pushing more with this legs and stepping through.
Paused at 6:50. For longer putt you are rotating your torso around and trying to backhand it to the basket. Creates a lot of variability left and right. Instead recommend you get that extra distance by cocking the wrist in and driving the elbow up and out in front of you. Once the elbow is as far out in front of you as it can be it stops suddenly and whips the forearm out till it extends and the wrist whips out. That's the arm part of my 120' jump putt, you can dial that back to get easy circle two distance. David
Just goes to show how talented and gifted Simon is. He “ doesn’t think “. I love how he said to putt 90-100ft 30-40 times a day. And it’ll make those 40footers easier. Love this collaboration. Happy Vlogmas Uli
Great video guys. Thanks so mich to Uli for the analytical approach and reveal and to Simon for being so helpful, honest, self aware and sharing. Great to see 2 veterans be kind to ‘the world.’
Love Uli's critical thinking and verbalizing through common disc golf mentality/phrases. And the fact that he is a willing learner proves he is an excellent teacher. If it's mental, maybe what Simon told Drew might work for Paul. Statically if you miss one, you're much more likely to make the next one.
This may be crap, but just going for it - physically it seems like Simon's elbow to wrist lever is more delayed. The elbow is a bit more out front. He does this for short putts and long putts and it works for both. For Paul it seems like the wrist is moving past the elbow with less delay and this doesn't hurt in shorter putts because you can just have more of a push finish. For long putts the lever needs more power and isn't getting it so it counters by trying to get a bit more wrist at the end, but the fingers make it difficult. I would think this is important in regular throws, too, right? So maybe getting a more regular throw form aspect on the longer putts - at least the middle and finish. Who knows. Paul, you're amazing and hope you have a great season in 2024.
So glad I’m not the only one who catches their middle fingers sometimes with longer putts. Thank you Uli! For the amazing content , and making me feel a little better about myself . Now I gotta work on it!
Incredible, not only was I talking about this same stuff with a friend this week. I have to totally agree that the different opinions and play style talks are where you get to have more ideas and you can piece together other parts of the game. I love this.
"It could go sideways, or I might make it". Amen. I'm having lots of right sideways putts recently, similar to yours if not worse. Got my first 0% C1X putting last month :'D This video got me hyped to putt more, thanks! :)
This for me was the single best video of all the vlogmas videos. Really good information. I remember someone commenting about how Ricky practices putting from way longer distances than anyone else during warm ups before tournaments.
You broke my brain with the pressure comment and how you illustrated holding the disc with basically pointer finger and thumb. I have the same issue with the bottom of the disc sometimes catching my middle finger, and I have a similar grip where I tuck my pinky. I tried switching the pressure more onto my pointer finger and not only did the catching on my middle finger stop, but my release timing got way more consistent as well. Hoping this change gets me solid with those 25 footers and then I can start to try and figure out C2. Awesome video, Uli!
Lol I feel you Uli, I'm super in tune with mechanics over the mental. I tried for so many years to learn how to do long putts. What I've arrived on is that some people just have crazy spin and others don't. I'm in the camp of just not being able to get that kind of spin like Simon. I know that's a terrible answer. I think adding distance to your putt is one of the hardest things in disc golf.
I am an older disc golfer (52) and I have been playing for a year and a half. I have no speed in my putts. Even a 25 footer is a high rainbow putt to get it to the basket. I made a small improvement a couple of weeks ago after seeing a video (forget who it was) that said to lead with the elbow slightly to get more whip or snap on the disc. It has helped a lot on the 20-25 footers to get them to the basket without having to go as high. It also helped even more on the 15-20 footers that I can now get to the basket with very little arch. I probably doubled my make percentage in that range with one little tip. Another tip was from Trevor Staub of Foundation disc golf. I was putting like he said he used to with my index finger on the outside rim of the disc. I switched to tucking it under like the grip in this video and I get a lot more spin and "pop" on my putts.
A good way to practice the "pop" is to sit down at 25-30 feet and practice putting. It makes you use your arm more to get the power. It's a struggle at first, but the gains are amazing in just a couple weeks.
I love this series so much, between the one with ezra, and now simon helping you on your journey to become a better player, even for a pro is so great. Keep it up!
Hey Paul big fan of both you and Simon! I was just putting in my basement and had a realization that made me think back to this video. It's kind of a "duh" realization but really makes sense when you're looking at a longer distance putt. The reason why Simon's putt looks like it gets to the basket so effortlessly is because Simon putts nose up 9:59. A nose up flight requires less speed and more spin (rpm). Vs a flat putter will take much more effort and speed to get to the basket because it's falling for most/all of it's flight; it will also hit the chains harder. I was intrigued when Simon said his release is palm down but he didn't realize it 1:55. So I i tried to figure out how to putt and make my hand finish like his did lol little bit of reverse engineering almost.
Wow this makes a lot of sense Simon. When it comes to looooong putts, I end up thinking about how to get the disc there instead of actually making the putt. The putter ends up with the distance to get there but with little chance of getting into the basket
Simon grips his disc between noon and 1 with his wrist cocked, Uli grips his disc between 1 and 2 with his wrist straight(er). Gripping the front of the disc forces you to cock your wrist and will help generate more spin.
Paul your property looks super dope. Cool to see all the baskets scattered around the yard. Traffic in the background, shows us a little bit of you being a normal person.
I’m a real believer like Paul that it’s understanding the mechanics inside and out…then at some point your body and muscle memory takes over like Simon says. But yeah man, I feel the struggle Uli, my putting falls off a cliff after like 35-40ft…by 60 it’s just a hope and a prayer and I’d love to be able to drain those with literally any level of consistency hahah.
I first heard about „instinct shooting“ from arrow shooting. Look at Byron Ferguson or Lars Anderson. I think this applies also for discgolf. Not being an expert, the goal is to visualize the flight. Try also shooting with eyes closed after aiming. Cool video, thanks.
I used to anny Putt like you Paul but I switched to a hyzer style putt and it just shoots out of the hand way better. I don’t know why but it just feels a lot snappier that way, for the close ones it doesn’t matter but for the long ones the hyzer style feels way better.. at least for me
I'm 40 yrs old been playing since I was 17 ... I'm about to get my pdga# .... but i play for hours on end .... 3 or 4 round days ... 2 back to back rounds on 27 hole courses .... then go home and throw at my basket .... not because i'm trying to get better but because i love throwing discs ... no other reason ... i would throw every single day from sun up till sun does and them throw a glow round if i could .... rain snow heat ... anything except lightning... I'll be throwing discs just because until I physically can't.... that's the spirit of disc golf I fell in love with and that the spirit I'll die with
just when I thought I’d be okay with sticking to what I know, uli is out here trying to get better and it’s making me realize that 33 years old and 12 years of disc golfing doesn’t mean I can’t keep getting better
I would like to say this has worked for me form number one once I felt comfortable with that I need to work on my 30 footers so I went back to 60 almost double and just through endless shots until I got the hight right along with nose angle so now I guess my back yards to small and off to the park to work on 100 foot shots love the advice definitely helped me also
theres a reason the best pros have such a distinctive form. they have muscle memory down, thats why his answer is basically whats natural to him, he doesnt have to think about the throw because he lets his subconscious mucsle memory take over. the answer he wants and looking for is practice. thats why all the pros look the same again and again and have forms we love.
Awesome video, as always! On an unrelated note, I want to shout out to everyone over at Discraft who was involved in putting together the Black Friday Mystery Boxes, mine was absolutely loaded. Especially excited about the Uli stamped ESP Raptor ❤
