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Can the Boss Katana keep up with HOLY GRAIL Fender Vibroverb 64 Reissue? 

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I wasn't really expecting this to be close - but I thought it might be fun to see if the Boss Katana could get close to the Fender Vibroverb....
00:00 Vibroverb?
00:32 Katana?
00:53 Vibroverb?
1:12 Katana?
1:33 Vibroverb?
1:39 Katana?
1:45 Vibroverb?
2:08 Katana?
2:30 What do you think?
5:54 Vibroverb?
6:20 Katana?
8:37 TS10 into Vibroverb?
9:02 TS10 into Katana?
9:55 SD9 into Vibroverb?
10:20 SD9 into Katana?
10:55 Were the captions right? Is it close or?
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@david71991
@david71991 11 месяцев назад
The Katana is a genius piece of engineering
@skidmarkjohnson8452
@skidmarkjohnson8452 11 месяцев назад
I've been gigging with my Katana for years in churches with the master volume very low and it sounded good. But I recently played an outdoor festival and had to really crank the master and my mild mannered Katana came alive and sounded fantastic!
@frankdeitsch6869
@frankdeitsch6869 11 месяцев назад
The Katana has one of the best pedal platforms compared to other solid state amps out there. I've gigged with mine in various size venues as well as outdoors with no problem. I changed the grill cloth on mine and as a result have had many tube amp snobs compliment me on my tone before asking what my amp was and watching their faces and reactions when I tell them it's a solid state Katana 😂😂😂
@intersweat
@intersweat 11 месяцев назад
The light hearted dig about being part owner of Victory amps might have gone over some peoples head but I’m sure many of us got the inside joke. Well played sir 😂
@intersweat
@intersweat 11 месяцев назад
The irony of this is that I watched a Friday fret works from Chris Buck a while back and bought the exact same victory amp setup that he had as he’s one of my favourite players in the world right now. However Andertons fucked up my order so I went looking and got a practically a new one from guitarguitar for a £1000 cheaper than the rrp at Andertons. I then went to see Cardinal Black a few months back and got to meet Chris. He was unbelievable… did I say he’s one of my all time favourite players … but he wasn’t playing a victory. Must not be sponsored by them anymore if ever. Got to tell him my story after the gig and he signed my t shirt merch and cds so I bought a second shirt that I’ll actually wear. Truth be told I would still buy from Andertons even after seeing the KDH vid as I have got a lot of amazing gear off them and they are a top notch shop with a great RU-vid channel. I thought Lee handled it well with his quick response and I still trust them enough to give them the benefit of the doubt. Next guitar I’m getting is a PRS DGT SE gold top from them for my birthday in 3 weeks. Am I a sucker? :)
@Erazmus_
@Erazmus_ 11 месяцев назад
Bro this sent me. Great great nod. 😂
@nedim_guitar
@nedim_guitar 10 месяцев назад
That was really funny! 😂😂
@chrishyde1216
@chrishyde1216 10 месяцев назад
KDH had an impact. Made me smile.
@flyingjeffsutherland3744
@flyingjeffsutherland3744 7 месяцев назад
🙂
@craiger2399
@craiger2399 11 месяцев назад
They were shockingly close. Much closer than a Tonemaster vs it's counterpart. It just makes sense economically to go with the Katana for gigs, practice, etc. (This from a guy with four vintage fenders and several other heavy tube amps, lol).
@BeachJazzMusic
@BeachJazzMusic 11 месяцев назад
I'm 70 years old so I grew up with tube amps and have had two Vibro-Verbs. One was stock and the other was modified by Paul Rivera back in the mid 70's. I have an original Katana 100W Combo and I love it. It took a lot of tweaking but every time I've taken it to a jam or a recording session it was just stellar. I've used it with pedals but it really doesn't need them. You can get anything you'll ever need right out of the amp if you use the GA-FC. My only complaint is that you have to remember what you've programed into it as there is no screen on the amp or footswitch. The tones are close to what they are suppose to be modeling and the reality is that unless you had them side by side I seriously doubt anyone could tell the difference.
@dylannolan7454
@dylannolan7454 10 месяцев назад
Do you get a good noise gate out of it? I haven't set mine up and don't really like it at all. I find the Helix gates sound better our of the box.
@BeachJazzMusic
@BeachJazzMusic 10 месяцев назад
@@dylannolan7454 I kind of think of them as apples and oranges. The Helix, IMO, is far better as far as modeling and effects are concerned but then, unless you're going to run it though a PA which you don't have to bring, it's more of a pain in the ass because you'll also have to bring some sort of amplification system to use it. For example, I use my Helix with a pair of Quilter Combo amps. As far as a noise gate, I kind of don't remember how I set the Katana up. I did it a long time ago and really tweaked the shit out of it to get it to sound good so now all I have to do is select the channels on the GA-FC. I do know that there is minimal noise when running distortion or overdrive. I got one of the first ones ever brought to the US because my friend was a Roland/Boss dealer and he had a friend that worked there. My only complaint is that I wished it had a better speaker but I think the new Artist model has a much improved speaker but I've never heard it.
@lehmusic2675
@lehmusic2675 10 месяцев назад
​@@dylannolan7454I have a Katana 2 100 watt combo and in the tone studio can set up the noise gate and works really good. I used to have tons of pedals sold them all. For remembering effects on the foot switch I got some stickers at $1 store. I did same thing for guitars put a sticker on control cover with string gauges when I put them on and tuning
@yobanyhernandez125
@yobanyhernandez125 11 месяцев назад
I’ve learnt the speaker and mic are the most important for tone change 😅 after that I stopped stressing about Amps.
@HomoChomsky
@HomoChomsky 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, I put a Jensen Blackbird 100 in my Blues Cube out of curiosity. It's still there to this day.
@DrProgNerd
@DrProgNerd 11 месяцев назад
I played a gig once where my EVH 5150 III stopped working midway through the 4 hour set. I finished the gig with a Peavey 1x12 combo - and a little pedal tweaking. The audience didn't know the difference. When we get to the point where we can split hairs like this and still barely tell the difference....the audience is definitely not going to be able to tell. Great video. Excellent playing as always.
@diegozamorano3467
@diegozamorano3467 11 месяцев назад
The Katana is one of the best creations for guitarists in the last 10 years.
@mikeblue385
@mikeblue385 11 месяцев назад
i don't remember if it was you who mentioned cranking the master on the katana but it becomes a different animal. i'm more impressed every time i play the thing. and i thought it was a toy. ive used it for electric gigs, acoustic gigs, headphone practice (for my roomie), loaned to my mandolin player, not one listener has complained or commented other than to say 'i can't believe how good that sounds'.
@Herfinnur
@Herfinnur 11 месяцев назад
I think that was Rob Chapman
@mikeblue385
@mikeblue385 11 месяцев назад
i don't watch rob. maybe studio rats.@@Herfinnur
@Herfinnur
@Herfinnur 11 месяцев назад
@@mikeblue385 I don't either, but that one very short video was recommended to me by some music magazine website like Musicradar or Premier Guitar
@mickkollins
@mickkollins 7 дней назад
I play pedal steel in a country band here in the Virgin Islands..I have a 50W Mk2 mic'd with an SM57 and people are always telling me how good it sounds...4 presets. that I have dialed in to cover most country styles.The Katana is a fantastic piece of gear!
@arnolddealiii4259
@arnolddealiii4259 11 месяцев назад
I think in my situation I had 2 30-40 watt tube amps that were non master volume amps running 2x12 cabs and they also sounded brilliant once I got the power tubes working. But there is the problem. To get to that sweet spot I’m too loud. I bought the katana 100 combo and started gigging that. My volume dropped an order of magnitude at gigs. Also I did away with the pedals and run direct out. I can carry a guitar, an amp, and a bag with cables, slide, capo, tuner, and a backup set of strings and I’m good. 1 trip to the car. Happy sound man. Happy band. Now I can go to smaller venues and even do silent stage if necessary. It’s not as romantic as a tube amp but I’m playing more places and I’m lower volume that sounds better than a tube amp that isn’t cranked to the sweet spot. More gigs equals more money. Best of all if it breaks or is stolen at the gig I can replace it relatively cheap.
@lancenunez8252
@lancenunez8252 11 месяцев назад
And keep in mind that the Katana has a capable foot switch, a direct out, and tons of accessible effects. Most folks could gig all night with that one piece of gear.
@mdub048
@mdub048 11 месяцев назад
I don't think there is much question that, at volume, the real thing is superb. I look at digital and modeling for the areas in which it excels: great tone and playing experiences at any volume. There is no place in my life currently to play tube amp loud. Trust me, almost no one wants to hear anyone play tube amp loud in 2023. That I can retire to my private world with extraordinary tones and bother no one else and play to my hearts content is beyond liberating.
@paulrich6307
@paulrich6307 11 месяцев назад
Value for money is amazing on the Katana. I have the Artist Mark II and as a home player, it will be a long time before I outgrow my Katana Artist Mark II. Great honest video.
@24avenged24
@24avenged24 11 месяцев назад
I know others have done it, but I'd really like to see your thoughts on the Catalyst vs. Katana. Maybe something like this where you compare them both to a real amp tone, and then maybe see how the compare with an OD and with a fuzz.
@davidharris794
@davidharris794 4 дня назад
I really couldn't tell the difference through headphones. Both sounded fantastic and your playing helps that of course. Given the weight, cost, and maintenance issues of a tube amp, and the inbuilt effects of the Katana, for a keen amateur of intermediate ability like me it's not even a choice. Thanks for the comparison.
@superlead1002
@superlead1002 11 месяцев назад
Virtually identical based on what I was hearing, at least through RU-vid.
@joelcraig6416
@joelcraig6416 11 месяцев назад
Katanas are very under rated. You can do everything with them. Every time I go to Guitar Center I dial in a good sound and let it fly. Always a crowd pleaser. I don’t know why more people are not gigging with this amp. I know the old timers who are reluctant to leave tubes but then I look at their pedal boards and it’s all solid state stuff so explain that. Additionally the amps get miked out and turned into solid state mixed and broadcasted through the P A.
@robertcovell2787
@robertcovell2787 11 месяцев назад
When I began to feel too old to be on the road any longer I gave my trusty Marshall to my grandson and bought a Katana. It's fabulous!
@r0bophonic
@r0bophonic 11 месяцев назад
4:02 I almost spit out my drink 😂
@nunolance23
@nunolance23 11 месяцев назад
Lmao
@IamMusicNerd
@IamMusicNerd 11 месяцев назад
The Katana is a great pedal platform, especially when using the clean channel on the amp. I also love that the Katana head has built in practice speaker. So it can be used as a portable practice amp, or a 100w loud as hell head powering a cabinet for gigging. Super versatile. I still generally prefer using my Synergy amp head, but it’s too heavy to travel with. So the Katana or the QC/GT1000 is usually what I use if I need to travel light, and I rarely hear much of a difference.
@CJZM7777
@CJZM7777 11 месяцев назад
I have a Katana MK II 50 and it's great for home play. I get a good clean tone, good break-up tone, delay and reverb are great and it has a lot of built in effects to experiment with. I think I paid $220 a few years ago. I thought the comparison was at least very very close. Bernie Marsden passed last week and Bernie played his PRS SE singlecut live for small venues and as we know he owned a '59 LP. I can't see buying expensive gear unless you are a very successful artist or simply rolling in money.
@Squall6575
@Squall6575 11 месяцев назад
Yup. Super expensive custom shop instruments are only justifiable if you can afford it without thinking twice, or if you play professionally and its an investment into your career. The low to midrange guitars these days are phenomenal, and even the high end options that come before custom shop stuff are great for the money
@Helvis23
@Helvis23 11 месяцев назад
These vids are helpful. I own a Katana 50 Mk 1. I continue to hear Katanas sounding equally as good and sometimes better than tube amps that cost lots more. Of course i am just a stay-at-home not very good player...
@stevelogan1699
@stevelogan1699 11 месяцев назад
I’ve been using the Katana Mk II Artist combo as my main gigging amp for a while. It’s been superb in clubs and small theatres and takes pedals beautifully. I bought it originally for recording since it allows me to tweak an input tone fairly precisely without pedals. Again for that it’s superb. I suspect the ‘problem’ is that we start with a strong bias in favour of expensive gear. This was justified in (say) 1960-2000. But as amp and guitar manufacturing technology have advanced the difference gap is being squeezed. As your know from your extensive use of modellers, we’ve come such a long way that many expert guitarists happily use simulations of amps and pedals. Only a few years ago this was regarded with suspicion. I suspect it won’t be long before the only question will be not digital versus analogue but good digital versus better. Thank you for another enlightening video John. Your playing as always is beautiful.
@captainprivate3768
@captainprivate3768 11 месяцев назад
It's kinda funny all these years later we're still doing the "is it good enough?" thing. Yes, it is. You just played it and it sounded very nice... That's the whole goal. On top of that it's very convenient and considerably more affordable than large rigs with expensive amps.
@writewheel
@writewheel 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate that you used the speaker (and cab) of the Vibroverb against a loop for this comparision. We focus on front plates and cosmetics and superhero choice... I'm reminded of a closed back Mesa Studio Caliber that I played for a few hours then returned.
@DenisSurette
@DenisSurette 11 месяцев назад
Katanas are great. I've been giggin' mine for 5 years, and they've never let me down.
@neilbrewer
@neilbrewer 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video John. I've got a Mesa Boogie Epresss+ 5:25 and a Boss Nextone Artist (have had a Katana).Miles apart in cost. Very, very close in tones. Boss stuff is the bee's knees in you are just using your ears. Cheers Neil (Australia)
@Newnodrogbob
@Newnodrogbob 11 месяцев назад
Oh shit; I lost it at “I…am a part owner of Victory amps.”
@jeffmoore7551
@jeffmoore7551 11 месяцев назад
This is great John. So many of us have questions like this rattling around in our heads and it truly is a service to your peeps to do something like this for us. I have the Katana and the Nextone. I personally think that the Nextone would be even closer to the Fender amp.
@denmar355
@denmar355 11 месяцев назад
Very close! I have the Katana Artist and have no regrets. It’s really about learning how to adjust and find the sound you’re looking for. I don’t know if the Katana 50 is quite as close, but I will happily use the Artist. The power scaling, built in Boss effects, GA-FC foot controller, makes for a super versatile platform. The listeners never sit there wondering if you’re playing through a $3000 amp or a $500 amp.
@PeterDad60
@PeterDad60 11 месяцев назад
It took me a long time to learn how to use and enjoy my Katana MKll head, but now that I have learned how to use it I play through it a lot. I run it through a Marshall Origin Full stack of 412A and 412B 16 ohm speaker cabs for a total of 8 ohm impedance. Please note that typically I use one of my non-tube amps like the Katana head for when I'm just not sure of my mood. I use the Katana or some other non tube amp to just enjoy playing music. In all truth I prefer the tone of my tube amps so I use my Katana to save time on my tubes. So I alternate what amp I play through every day. No use turning on a 50 or 100 watt tube amp just for some everyday playing. The tube amps are used when I feel creative. To be sure, I do like and enjoy the tone from all my amplifiers including my Katana Head. -Peter age 73
@martoneill
@martoneill 11 месяцев назад
Speaker is incredibly influential on the sound. Interested to hear more Katana exploration vids. The intro sounds excellent, regardless of which was used.
@BradMiller007
@BradMiller007 11 месяцев назад
Pretty amazing comparison. Can’t believe you said you mightn’t have blessed fingers, well from what I can tell you a very blessed and gifted musician with wonderful phrasing.
@cezarsantana
@cezarsantana 11 месяцев назад
The intro was so musical I was singing along with your melodic lines...love it!!
@nobodyimportant76467
@nobodyimportant76467 11 месяцев назад
“I’m a part owner of victory amps” 🤣
@mattb4rd
@mattb4rd 11 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂 Came to make the same comment. Hilarious
@Oris37
@Oris37 11 месяцев назад
No, I'm a part owner of Victory Amps..! 🤣🤣
@edsfarm1
@edsfarm1 11 месяцев назад
I was using a Rivera Duo12 tube amp. I'm 69 years old and after two hernia operations I decided to try the Katana 100. Been using it ever since. I have the effects send and return jacked up. This amp can get plenty loud if I need it. I normally use it at 15 or 50 watts.
@tompope6522
@tompope6522 4 месяца назад
In my experience the main difference between the Katana and a valve amp, like a Fender, is how much the midrange cuts through live. I gig with an acoustic guitarist, and the Katana is great for that because it has as balanced and polished sound that blends in well. When I play with a band with drums etc. the higher stage volume means that the Katna can struggle to poke through, even when relatively loud. My friends valve amp on the other hand is just so much more audible and has more presence to it at similar volume. The other drawback to the Katana is the directional nature of the speaker. I use the 100W 1x12". Unless the speaker is pointing at you, you end up with a distorted impression of how much high end is in the sound which can make it piercing to those in direct line of fire. The 12" valve amps I've used, like the Hot Rod deluxe sound more consistent along a wider angle. For recording though, I think you can hardly tell them apart and obviously micing up or using good monitoring can make up for the Katanas shortcomings as the pros are so numerous.
@joejohnson8966
@joejohnson8966 11 месяцев назад
4:00 LOOOOOOOOOOOL Lee Andertons
@nobodyimportant76467
@nobodyimportant76467 11 месяцев назад
The Katana is an impressive piece of gear regardless of its very affordable price tag. Never should have sold mine. Definitely going to pick up an Artist head soon
@Herfinnur
@Herfinnur 11 месяцев назад
Same. I traded mine for a Yamaha THR10C that I never use. Mind you, I wasn't able to make it sound engaging, because I didn't know that the master volume matters
@jamesa6080
@jamesa6080 11 месяцев назад
The newer katanas allow you to blend all the effects whereas the older ones made you choose between different ones (each dial changed effect at the 12 o clock point). I’m thinking of trading my older one in to get a newer one but I’m stuck between that or just buying a tube amp as well
@nobodyimportant76467
@nobodyimportant76467 11 месяцев назад
@@jamesa6080 A good tube amp is quite the experience. The Katana is awesome for the price - you can’t go wrong with either (or both 😁)
@rutger4131
@rutger4131 11 месяцев назад
The thing to remember about (opinions on) gear sounding such and such: lots of people listen with their eyes and talk out of their arse.
@marksmith7789
@marksmith7789 5 месяцев назад
I have a Katana 100 mkII and love it. Yes the Vibroverb sounded a bit better but not several thousand dollars worth better. Tube amps are still the grail but most people can't afford the crazy prices they sell for, almost anyone can have a Katana.
@Paul-D
@Paul-D 11 месяцев назад
The Katana especially the head into a favoured cab is VERY tough to beat. Ive gone round the houses 'upgrading' from katanas and end up back with one, third time on the trot now.
@JCleggy
@JCleggy 11 месяцев назад
Hearing someone make a Squier and Katana sound incredible seems so much more impressive than the same guitarist with a PRS and a Vibroverb. Cheap gear is cooler! I’m not saying that we shouldn’t buy pricey stuff. To each their own; but cheap gear is cooler 😎
@evo9860
@evo9860 11 месяцев назад
I really believe the Katana could very well possibly be the only amp one would ever need. I own one and I've watched hundreds of video's of people trying to debunk the quality of sound the katana gives. To my ears I couldn't tell enough of a difference that if one was in a blind comparison they could distinguish a $3000 amp from a Katana. That being said it can't do everything but it can do almost everything exceptionally well in my opinion. But what do I know I'm not Warren Haynes or any other guitar god for that matter. But I do know for me it's hard to beat (and I'm a tube guy at heart) but if you insist on spending 5 grand on an amp by all means have at it. I'm gonna stick with my $300 magical mystery in a box. Enjoy the videos you're an exceptional player thanks for sharing your experiments and sounds you achieve.
@GraniteSoundtrack
@GraniteSoundtrack 11 месяцев назад
Sounded super close and had great tone. I’m currently rehearsing for a small gig with another guitarist that’s using a katana. I’m playing a Marshall DSL40. He doesn’t have worse tone or volume than me. The Katana is legit in every way for most guitarists. If it had more boutique looks and was marketed differently it could be sold for a lot more. Too many of us watch RU-vid for the opinions of guys with so much budget for gear that there really is no comparison for us. Do it John.
@fabulouscat9601
@fabulouscat9601 11 месяцев назад
I did the same experiment! compared a while ago hx stomp with placemaker dirty amp into HB Power Station into my favorite speaker (212 greenbacks). Compared to my hand wired tube town Jim head (jcm800 with El84... so same as the friedmann circuit) into the same speaker. Dead on... i was honestly surprised. Since then i tried different setups (frfr etc.). And i jave to admit, its my favorite setup (hx stomp into power station into real cab)!
@harrytheguard
@harrytheguard 18 дней назад
Great video. Return on investment seriously not there, the Katana kicks it well. Hate to admit it as I had a major love affair with my fender deluxe reverbs but have in the last year sold all of them as no one in my audience can tell the difference in my gear. Now it’s a Katana in a band setting or a universal audio dream 65 in a solo gig.
@joshb7326
@joshb7326 11 месяцев назад
I recommend getting in touch with Dave Simpson. He does some incredible things with the Katana!
@deddiev1718
@deddiev1718 11 месяцев назад
Single notes almost identical. On chords the fender is fuller and warmer in the mids, but in a mix the Katana is probably fine
@davegilbert9000
@davegilbert9000 9 месяцев назад
The katana is so special for the money, my MK2 50 has done it all and holds its own with the best, studio cleans are top notch, and its drives very well. For the price, can’t beat it.
@JS-nf1sn
@JS-nf1sn 11 месяцев назад
I have some really nice tube Amps and a Katana Artist. Every time I fire up the Katana I'm surprised again about how good it sounds. Still underrated even though they are everywhere. If they charged $2K it would get more respect. It over delivers.I have a Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb too, where that wins is weight. Other than that the Katana gives you way more, and I like the Tonemaster.
@MRxr400
@MRxr400 10 месяцев назад
the natural valve compression, in the room feel, is probably felt by you more than is heard over youtube. both sound great.
@nedludd3641
@nedludd3641 11 месяцев назад
"I need to declare that I'm a part-owner in Victory Amps" - Good to see you openly declaring that, John. Full disclosure - So, we all know where you stand - very decent and above board - Nice one, dude.
@123Ir0nman
@123Ir0nman 11 месяцев назад
The sounds you've demod are so close I can't really tell over youtube. I've been gigging a Katana 100mkii combo for years and it's an amazing pedal platform! I pretty much only use it as a clean pedal platform.
@55Wassy
@55Wassy 11 месяцев назад
Very interesting John. Yet i am not at all surprised. I am a tone junkie, since buying my first Marshall 50 plexi head in the mid seventies and still running a DSL 100 head into a 1936 Vintage 2x12 the `magic` of valves is still an experience yet to be bettered. But...........since buying a Katana 100 2x12 combo and matching the sound, tone and even feel of my Marshall so closely that I hold my hands up and admit that the Katana is easily good enough to gig by itself.. Running a stereo rig is a trip for me and the audience in smaller venues. Hide the Katana out of site and marvel at the 3D sound haha. Master volume full up ?.Absolutley the secret to a gigable full tone. I had a Tonemaster Super Reverb 4x10 for a while but had to admit defeat and sold it. Great channel , so insightful. Thank you.
@0TheRain0
@0TheRain0 11 месяцев назад
I put a Jensen 12" in mine because it's a speaker used in several fender amps I love, and I think it sounds superb. Unlike the tube amp, it sounds good at lower volumes too I feel. That's the main reason I'm not using tube, but the maintenance is another good reason. I have mine wired up so I can use it as a speaker for my stereo rig as well and is great in that context too.
@Pj32Sr
@Pj32Sr 11 месяцев назад
Behringer gmx212 has them (can find cheap now), had mine since 06. Great sounds budget friendly
@StrumBelievable
@StrumBelievable 11 месяцев назад
Which Jensen 12" just out of curiosity?
@0TheRain0
@0TheRain0 11 месяцев назад
I have the c12n in it. It's a katana 50 mkii fwiw. I have a mod 10 on the other side of my stereo rig that I think I like a little better as a modeller speaker, a little tighter and more defined sound.
@diegozamorano3467
@diegozamorano3467 11 месяцев назад
To me sounds exactly the same. But the feeling of playing softly is something perceived differently among the guitarist. Very nice playing and taste. Congrats for the Chanel.
@vintagepipesnightmares
@vintagepipesnightmares 11 месяцев назад
It’s the feel under the finger that made me change my katana with a tube amp. Not the sound. The clean stuff is different. If you play with gain than Katana is absolutely amazing
@Grungebob_Squaredance
@Grungebob_Squaredance 11 месяцев назад
I had the first gen 50 watt Katana, not a bad unit for the price. I could however always hear digital noise at louder volumes.
@mikevanleeuwen2858
@mikevanleeuwen2858 11 месяцев назад
I also love the spring reverb in the katana. The only thing you have to do is turning the green light into the red light on the reverb knob ( or via the software but there ś no need using the software ) It ś very Fender spring like
@rowbags3017
@rowbags3017 11 месяцев назад
Hi John. That's a really useful comparison. You make them both sound great - I'm a huge admirer of your playing. 😎 Some people foolishly look down their nose at Katanas. But David Grissom has told me he can get a good sound out of one, so that's recommendation enough in itself for me. 😉My two main amps are a Katana and a Laney Cub Super. I rate them both highly, and they both excel in different ways - the Katana especially for a pure clean tone (ideal for the PRS SE Hollowbody II Piezo) and its low-gain sounds, and the Cub Super 12 for a really expressive real valve sound. They're both very affordable and useful additions to any rig, depending on what you play. And they're also both nice and light to lug around! What's not to like.
@mkrj2576
@mkrj2576 7 месяцев назад
Kats are great. I have the Artist combo and the 50. Gigged’m both. If you want a tube like tone you’ve got to spend time with the Tone Studio though but that’s pretty easy. About the only tweaking I felt I needed to get a good stage sound was dial the global eq just a bit. Out of the box I think the clean sounds are sort of scooped and hi fi with high highs and boomy lows. Nice at low volume playing alone, but not at all what you need on stage playing with others. Funny, two days ago I stopped by the local shop to play a nice Revstar they had. Being very familiar with the Kat I plugged into one on the showroom floor. I just could not get that thing to sound good. Not sure what was up with it but it sounded not good at all. Not even close to either of mine. I’ve spent a lot of hours playing and dialing and fiddling with my Kats so I’m pretty sure I know how to dial them in. There are folks out there I’ve seen post comments and reviews on the Kat saying it sounded like junk. I know if that one was the only one I played I’d have felt the same. Not sure how to explain that. Maybe it was a bad Kat.
@plantagenant
@plantagenant 11 месяцев назад
I much prefer solid state at lower volume as most valve amps don't come into their own unless they are pushed and most of us don't have the opportunity to do that at home. Most valve amps I've had sounded average to bloody awful at low volume.
@DeepFriedHallelujah
@DeepFriedHallelujah 11 месяцев назад
This. It’s why I own a Katana. I’m a Princeton Reverb guy at heart but with no master volume it has to be halfway cranked to get the tone I love. My living situation doesn’t allow for that. Often I’m using my katana with headphones.
@wiegand6640
@wiegand6640 11 месяцев назад
Dude. So glad you did this vid. I believe the Katanas are grossly underrated. I spend most of my time between a Katana Air, and GT1000 core direct to mixer/pa/daw. If you're dragging around your expensive, in some cases, irreplaceable tube amps to gig with, plan on doing what John is doing right now a couple times a year. I get it, when your a bit younger, you want to be seen playing bitchin gear. Same thing with guitars. Leave your loved and expensive gear at home. Impress folks with your playing, and surprise them with your gear and tone. Love your channel, John. Hey, maybe a home studio build series at some point? Just the basics, with an inexpensive room treatment. I think that might be helpful for folks, and honestly, bud. Looks like you could use it ;-) Peace
@mikedr1549
@mikedr1549 11 месяцев назад
I bought a Katana for my grandson for his first amp and I was seriously impressed with how good it sounds.
@fancykarlmarx
@fancykarlmarx 11 месяцев назад
It’s a fantastic first amp. Or 10th amp for that matter.
@richardreed6538
@richardreed6538 11 месяцев назад
I played the Tonemaster blonde next to a 65 reissue and I preferred the sound of the blonde. Now I’m a fan of the cream back speakers. The blonde is a totally different animal than the original. Cost me half the price and pairs nicely with my hand wired ac15. I also own the katana 100 and have a Princeton that is going to cost me over 400 to fix. Going to sit a while because, we’ll because I don’t want to spend 400 bucks right now. Not sure why neural and kemper and digital pedals are fine but digital amps aren’t. I just can’t afford to keep paying 2-5 grand for an amplifier no matter how good.
@chrishyde1216
@chrishyde1216 10 месяцев назад
They were so close that the price difference is silly. In a gig the audience would not notice any difference. I didn’t think the Katana was underrated, and I thought it was known to take pedals well. The longer I've had had my K100, the more I like it because I'm learning how to get the sounds that I want.
@Mycloudacoustic
@Mycloudacoustic 11 месяцев назад
Loved that music at the start. Officially jealous!
@atithesnail
@atithesnail 11 месяцев назад
The Victory amp joke cracked me up, nice one! :D
@ivanrosemusic
@ivanrosemusic 11 месяцев назад
Everyone should go watch Jim Lill's Tested: Where Does The Tone Come From In A Guitar Amplifier? video.
@Bigstrat2
@Bigstrat2 6 месяцев назад
The Fender has a warmer tone especially in the low mids, like most tube amps compared to the digital counterparts.. Ive owned both and many different brands over the last 5 decades.. the biggest difference is at high volumes, the tube amps always win in my opinion and experience…
@DanEtch
@DanEtch 11 месяцев назад
I laughed so loudly at the part ownership joke I woke my son up. Top class.
@NedJeffery
@NedJeffery 11 месяцев назад
LOL I liked the little Victory Amps joke. Very apropos.
@Madeyes6
@Madeyes6 2 месяца назад
I don’t have the best ears after years working on jets but they both sounded very similar to me. If I can’t tell the difference then looks like a high end amp is out of the question 😄
@ksharpe10
@ksharpe10 11 месяцев назад
YOUR the DIGITAL KING!!!! Could not find you listed on the Boss website.
@zeronyne
@zeronyne 11 месяцев назад
I highly recommend anyone who loves tube amps to buy one. You’ll never be happy until you have one. But don’t think that anyone in a bar or maybe even a recording studio will think one is better than the other, nor will many of them even perceive a difference.
@scott.johnson
@scott.johnson 11 месяцев назад
The crack about Victory Amps was funny brother!
@ricklavigne4466
@ricklavigne4466 10 месяцев назад
I have the head with the 2-12 cab. i'm really happy with it.
@V1T091
@V1T091 9 месяцев назад
The Victory joke had me on the floor :D By the way.. it was a bit hard to set the "bass just past 5 o'clock" but I tried... Joking aside, only when you hit the TS-10 was when I started suspecting the Katana might be the one with slightly less organic dynamics (??) but other than that impossible to tell just by listening. Stellar playing as always, John!
@oldcodger4371
@oldcodger4371 2 месяца назад
I am surprised that someone actually did a comparison between a Vibroverb/lux and the Katana.
@jamdalf4343
@jamdalf4343 11 месяцев назад
If you're not using the Practice Speaker, you can set the Kat Head on it's face for a better controls panel position.
@bongo2565
@bongo2565 11 месяцев назад
For this type of in-depth comparison, it would also be interesting to compare the Fender with "Boss Nextone" which simulates various power tubes. I saw a used Nextone sold at US$300 on Reverb before...
@graemedixon6314
@graemedixon6314 10 месяцев назад
The clean channel is a decent pedal platform but i found the other channels don't take my big muff fuzz pedal very well. Boosting the high gain channels works well though.
@glennmartin4232
@glennmartin4232 11 месяцев назад
Try running 2 Katanas mk11 in stereo. I’ll put it up against anything and if you buy second hand the cost is astonishing for the sound you get.
@zacharyoliver1325
@zacharyoliver1325 11 месяцев назад
I want to say that both sounded great. Mostly, that's because of the quality of your skills. When I've reflected on the "feel" difference between tube and solid state amplifiers, I find that the experience isn't so much in the ears. Instead, I experience the difference in the fingers. It's a tactile experience. I feel like when I play solid state amps, my fingers feel like they're hitting a solid fret board. The sounds are tighter and spring out. With a tube amp and especially one with a tube rectifier, I feel like there's more give, like my fingers play through the fret board. The notes are also slower and looser. Crazy, maybe? I've been playing both kinds of amps for 35 years, though. Maybe I've hypnotized myself. I'm certainly not stating this as definitive truth, just as a pervasive, subjective experience (...the kind of thing that's healthy for the Internet).
@donaldrowe8460
@donaldrowe8460 11 месяцев назад
I've had Solid State amp break down and it was like a disposable lighter. So with durability, it is apples and oranges. I thought they sounded close enough to not matter. Application is everything! For what you are using it for, I say why not. If you were using an amp for more of a character and not as a pedal platform perhaps not. Also, what does it feel like under the hand. If you like it, it's good :)
@yaniv-nos-tubes
@yaniv-nos-tubes 11 месяцев назад
you can optimize your tube amps easily and make them work better for you and your guitars by swapping the v1 tube to vintage. i work on live gigs .all these modelers and digital amps fall apart distorted through the mix. they all sound like a clean boost instead of distortion no presence no body no warmth, digital compressors. but clean they are not too bad. great for backing and beginners who want to fake it all.
@michaelmay9059
@michaelmay9059 11 месяцев назад
"I'm a part owner in Victory"...😅 shots fired
@danielgreenberg4751
@danielgreenberg4751 11 месяцев назад
Very cool video. Thanks for sharing. I love your videos. I would also love to see this done with a Line 6 Catalyst at some point, if you happen to get ahold of one in the right wattage for comparison. I compared the 60 watt Catalyst and Katana using an fx pedal through the fx return on both before I purchased my Catalyst and the Catalyst produced a much better sound in my opinion. The Katana had this muffled/covered up sound across patches, whereas the Catalyst did not exhibit this issue. Note: I am still very happy with my Catalyst and am using it as a lighter alternative to my Fender Hot Rod Deluxe tube amp.
@ernestobenschop6087
@ernestobenschop6087 11 месяцев назад
"part owner of victory amps" , i nearly spit out my coffee!!!!!
@bustalick335
@bustalick335 11 месяцев назад
Love the satire 😂😂😂😂😂😂 The comedy is back😊
@ZaneQuebec
@ZaneQuebec 11 месяцев назад
Nice, I think that you unintentionally proven a point : the speaker and cab are what affects the most a guitar sound. Just for fun, you should, if you can, plug your Mesa to the speaker of the fender :)
@NedJeffery
@NedJeffery 11 месяцев назад
I am of the opinion that when it comes to modelling circuitry (just the amp section), it's absolutely impossible to tell the difference anymore. The difference with modellers comes from how you monitor them. If you want that feeling of playing in front of a 4x12 cab you have to have that 4x12 cab. You can't model a cab and mic, and listen to it on an FRFR, because you inevitably introduce the sound of the mic. But for recording purposes that's to be expected anyway. but for feel and tone, the speaker is the most important part.
@Adventuresingearland
@Adventuresingearland 11 месяцев назад
It really is astonishing how close the sounds can get between Katana and AN Other amp isn’t it? I always find there’s ’something’ not quite the same though I’ve yet to work out if it’s the feel or the sound in the room. Crazy good piece of kit for the money.
@john808welk
@john808welk 11 месяцев назад
Honestly, the speaker/cab and mic are 90% of the tone. It's crazy how similar a Marshall and a vox will sound through the same cab.
@erik2446
@erik2446 11 месяцев назад
Great and very helpful video, thank you!
@rwest8905
@rwest8905 11 месяцев назад
Very close sounds. Question is; was one clearly better than the other? Not in my opinion (under these conditions). I’m old. I have a 100 MK2. Easy on my back when carrying. HUGE variety of useable sounds/effects. Perfect? Nothing is. But especially for the price; a great value. Love the channel. Thanks!
@Chikolad
@Chikolad 11 месяцев назад
LOL @ the Victory amps reference
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