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Can this Amiga guy fix this Atari STE 

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The Atari ST range of computers are one thing that I've never really spent any time with so when Chris reached out and asked me to take a look at his faulty STE well I jumped at the chance to have a play with it.
But this Amiga guy genuinely knows nothing about these machines so I reached out to someone who does know their way around an Atari and with Dave's help can we get this Atari STE up and running.
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Thanks to Dave from the This Week In Retro Podcast. Check it out here - ‪@ThisWeekinRetro‬
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Chapters
00:00 Silly intro
00:53 What's in the box
02:38 Dave
05:35 Quick look around the case and accessories
09:22 More Dave
11:39 Initial test
13:02 Opening up
15:22 Is this the problem?
16:22 The motherboard
17:45 Final Dave
20:33 The plan
22:45 Repair montage
25:56 Test
28:24 Hdd port repair
31:00 A bit more maintenance
34:45 24 hours later
35:42 Testing some ST titles
39:12 Frontier
41:11 Secret of Monkey Island
43:55 We were at (oxygene)
46:12 Conclusion

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@chriswareham
@chriswareham 6 месяцев назад
So many thanks to you Glen for agreeing to look at my beloved ST! I've got so used to referring to the machine as a "1040", since that model was the minimum for running Steinberg's Pro24 or Cubase MIDI sequencers. I have had issues with the UltraSatan in the past, so extra thanks for spotting the issue with the ACSI port. My thanks also to Dave - even though I've been using an ST since the 1980s I learned a few things from his expert advice in this video. I had originally considered including a full set of the books about the Atari ST that were published by Abacus in the parcel, but sadly the shipping cost would have been astronomical. Those books, particularly the one that describes the internals of the ST and how to communicate with them, helped kick start my programming career. That's why that first partition on the UltraSatan also includes Lattice C compiler and possibly the DevPac assembler, which were my gateway to more than just typing in BASIC programs from magazine listings.
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for giving me the chance to work on it. I learnt a lot from Dave as well, he's a tree of knowledge when it comes to these machines and I may need to pick his brains again for getting my own st up and running.
@Chris-yc3mm
@Chris-yc3mm 6 месяцев назад
That cat hiding behind the monitor kept on distracting me 😂
@weepingscorpion8739
@weepingscorpion8739 6 месяцев назад
That's Dot for you. Attention seeker like all cats are. :)
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
I'm allergic to cats but thankfully not Ataris
@T8staDiM3rda
@T8staDiM3rda 6 месяцев назад
@@CRG no atari lynx/jaguar repairs for you then. 🤭
@hackbuildrestore
@hackbuildrestore 6 месяцев назад
Loved the video, nice to see Dave from This Week in Retro imparting his Atari knowlage 😊... makes me want to find an ST!
@florvasquezr
@florvasquezr 6 месяцев назад
I have learnt something, if one has little skills of electronics one still can do a RU-vid-Video. I love your soldering.
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
If you want to make youtube videos I don't think it matters so much about the skills but the one thing you must have is a passion for it. I do truly enjoy tinkering with all these machines and for me it's always been about the journey. If I don't know something I'll just say so. For soldering it's just practise. Not that there was much in this video, but if you look to some of my build videos you'll see more detailed work.
@weepingscorpion8739
@weepingscorpion8739 6 месяцев назад
For some reason the comment I wrote when this was released was never posted so here goes: I don't know about DIY hard drive solutions but in the Atari ST Sales group on facebook there's a guy from Luxembourg who sells a cheap hard drive solution which uses micro SD cards and it has an option for an RTC. So it's an alternative to the UltraSatan. I might get an UltraSatan too for my Atari 1040 STf but I'm good as is. My however has a faulty floppy drive so I need to figure that out. I also need to get the soldering iron out and upgrade the RAM to 4 MB. And finally, I also need a ROM upgrade, so for the STf(m) version 1.04 is the optimal version IIRC. As for all those partitions, I think that's down to the games and I also think that some other games complain if the partition is larger than 128 MB. So worth keeping an eye out for. I would love to get an STe too for those enhancements even if they're not really being used except for those demos. It was good seeing Dave on the channel. Although as usual, Dot steals the show. :) EDIT: Also, The Secret of Monkey Island on the ST sounds not too dissimilar to the Tandy 1000 version. But the 2149 and TI SN76489 are quite similar chips.
@GreggRodgers
@GreggRodgers 6 месяцев назад
I had an Atari ST way back when. I programmed a font editor I called Genus to create or modify Calamus fonts. It was a great machine at the time and could actually run Machintosh roms with a third party cartridge which plugged in the slot on the left.
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Very interesting, would it boot as a Macintosh then?
@GreggRodgers
@GreggRodgers 6 месяцев назад
@@CRG Yes. it would boot into a perfect Mac. Even the Mac screen corners where rounded. You needed to purchase and install actual Mac Roms for it to work, however.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 6 месяцев назад
@@CRG the Spectre GCR emulator was plugged into ST ROM port and floppy port, you had to use original Mac 128 ROMs inside the cartridge and Macintosh OS floppy. It ran about 20% faster then Mac and could even read Macintosh floppies. The resolution was slightly higher then on Mac, and many programs used it.
@mogwaay
@mogwaay 6 месяцев назад
Great Video. I missed the 16 bit home computers, I went from 8bit BBC & Spectrum to Nintendo consoles to a 486 PC, so I have no affiliation with Amiga or ST but I weirdly find the ST more appealing if I were to get either. Great cameo from Dave there, always good to have his input and I didn't realise the enhanced model addressed a lot of the STs limitations, shame it was probably too little too late... Look forward to seeing you get round to your FM machine. Cheers!
@fuzzywzhe
@fuzzywzhe 6 месяцев назад
AMAX was available for the Atari as well? I thought it was only on the Amiga. Seems weird that Mac, the WORST machine, won the battle. Marketing is everything.
@DaveVelociraptor
@DaveVelociraptor 6 месяцев назад
This is now an Atari ST channel. Congrats! /|\
@erikjohnson9112
@erikjohnson9112 6 месяцев назад
I was raised on Ataris (first Atari 800, then 1040 ST which I increased to 2.5 MB). The old Atari 800 was a gem because Jay Miner was involved with the graphics. So, I see Atari & Amiga as cousins. Yeah, I would have like to have had an Amiga (I had access to them as a senior in college, when they were newish). This beginning has carried me through to a decent career that continues today, involved in primarily computer graphics in one form or another.
@wimwiddershins
@wimwiddershins 6 месяцев назад
I'm a C= guy but have to admit the STe has a fair bit going for it. The easy memory and HD upgrades are great compared to the Amiga 500.
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Yep it's a lovely machine.
@LeftoverBeefcake
@LeftoverBeefcake 6 месяцев назад
BITD you could have an expansion for the A500 (the GVP A530) with an '030 at 40 Mhz, up to 8 megs of extra memory and a SCSI hard drive that just slides onto the left side of the machine. Yeah, it was pricey and made the Amiga a few inches wider, but as far as ease of upgrading you couldn't get any simpler. There were plenty of other similar HD & memory expansion boxes available as well. That's far easier than tearing the machine apart to get at SIMM sockets. Don't forget the A500 has the belly slot for expansion cards as well. Thus I would argue the A500 is on par if not better as far as easy upgrades go, without having to tear down the machine.
@fuzzywzhe
@fuzzywzhe 6 месяцев назад
I wouldn't want to go back to the bad old days of using these computers again.
@elmariachi5133
@elmariachi5133 6 месяцев назад
@@fuzzywzhe I would love to. Because then we used computer for fun and some school work if we *wanted* to. Todays we are forced to use computers, because a lot important things cannot be done without anymore. This means, that given the condition you mentioned (old days) we would not lose anthinng by not using modern computers besides not being spied in and being abused by terrible enterprises like Microsoft, Crapple and Google.
@fuzzywzhe
@fuzzywzhe 6 месяцев назад
@@elmariachi5133 First, you allow yourself to be spied upon. Stop using certain corporations that have demonstrated their lack of ethics. Abandon them. I'm quite open about being a political dissident. The Internet has given me the ability to understand the entire world geopolitically. I value that. I know more about what is going on than a typical intelligence agent. That would have been impossible in 1980. The amount of knowledge I have access to, it's the envy of every civilization before us, and I don't really care if they DO try to censor the net. It's easy to avoid it if you put in a tiny bit of effort into it. This site for example, it's merely for BS, propaganda, and play. You may not even see this message.
@Harp00nX
@Harp00nX 4 месяца назад
Your face when you said "charm" on hearing the music of the Frontier intro i literally had to lol haha
@laurencemaddock1118
@laurencemaddock1118 6 месяцев назад
The cartridge is the copy protection dongle of Steinburg Pro 24 midi sequencer software
@ctrlaltrees
@ctrlaltrees 6 месяцев назад
Nice to see you getting to grips with the STE! I had one as a kid and it's a bit of a bittersweet machine really. So capable and competitively priced but too little too late and with next to no developer support. Pretty much sums up all of Tramiel-era Atari, unfortunately. I can highly recommend the modern STE native port of Wolfenstein 3D - incredible to think what could have been!
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Rees, I have to get this machine back to it's owner but maybe I could sneak in a quick game of wolf3d
@Nukle0n
@Nukle0n 6 месяцев назад
That HDD port adapter not having a ground shield seems like an easy way to risk overinsertion, which might explain why those pins got pushed in.
@DrDavesDiversions
@DrDavesDiversions 6 месяцев назад
Nicely paced ST intro for yet another Amiga aficionado. Happy Holidays, Glen. Also, RetroBytes channel recommendation shout-out is well-deserved. :)
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Thanks and happy holidays to you as well. John is a great guy and runs a fantastic channel. It was very nice of him to include me in his list.
@BustaHymen
@BustaHymen 6 месяцев назад
"16-bit dance party" 😂 Great hommage! Also a super job of course, really enjoyed this one.
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Had to be done, Adrian is a big influence on what I'm doing here. Glad to hear you enjoyed the video.
@YogSothoth1969
@YogSothoth1969 6 месяцев назад
Great job Glen!!!!
@tinkermatic
@tinkermatic 6 месяцев назад
Nice video and good job!
@alojzybabel
@alojzybabel 6 месяцев назад
Really great video. Intro so funny. I am also Amiga fan and owner, but my first computer was Atari 65xe. Looking at this demo at the end, I am impressed how Atari developed hardware since 8 bit machine.
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it. The intro was just for the fun of it. I dont often bring comedy into my videos but could resist this time. I know us Amiga guys give the ST a lot of stick but it is an impressive machine. The demo I showed at the end is only for the STE and there are a few very impressive demos for that machine. I'll get my own STFM up and running first but an STE would be great to add to my collection. The Atari 8 bit machines are one I've never had. Maybe one day.
@ddniUK
@ddniUK 6 месяцев назад
Interesting video. I really had forgotten just how bad the ST Yamaha sound chip was in games. Hard eye roll the next time an ST user says “but we have midi” :) . Also kudos to your restraint on not commenting on how gorgeous the desktop is…
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
I would make my workbench background bright green but just can't find the right shade 😅
@TPau65
@TPau65 6 месяцев назад
Great video and repair! I think the harddisk connector normally doesn't have a plastic cover like you glued in there. At least my STE doesn't have one either. The problem is that the pins of this "self made" adapter for the Ultrasatan are thicker than on normal DB connectors. That can cause the issue you showed in the video with bend back pins. My Ultrasatan-Mini uses the same pins and I also have to be very careful putting it in! According TOS: V2.06 (the latest) is the most comfortable when using GEM-Desktop. In the configuration you showed in the video, you don't have to close and then re-open the window from another drive, just press Control plus the drive letter and the new drive opens in the same window! Or like with the Amiga you could put (links of) programs directly onto the Desktop etc. Only for compatibility reasons with very few demos and games I also have TOS 1.62 in my machine, switchable (Dual-TOS)!
@envoycdx
@envoycdx 6 месяцев назад
Yup, another video enjoyed Glen!
@Momentvm
@Momentvm 6 месяцев назад
Great video! I'd love to get one of these with PRO24 and do some old school midi sequencing :)
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Would be perfect for your music
@Momentvm
@Momentvm 6 месяцев назад
It *would* be perfect if I had an expensive collection of vintage gear :D. As far as I see it, the ST would drive my software instruments on my studio PC (not cool at all :P) @@CRG
@jazzdirt
@jazzdirt 6 месяцев назад
ST + Steinberg Cubase, PRO24 or C-lab Notator/Creator, are still really capable tools if you have a bunch of midi hardware lying around that need sequencing. I still know studio's that actually still use the old systems... Set up a session, record all midi modules multitrack into a modern DAW and go from there...
@Momentvm
@Momentvm 6 месяцев назад
@jazzdirt that's true. With the use of the MMC and a multitrack tape machine, the STs were the grandfathers of Pro Tools and were used long into the 90s
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 6 месяцев назад
One of my favourite bands, Skinny Puppy, were using Pro24 on an ST long after most people had moved onto Apple Mac or IBM PC based setups. The rock solid timing and well designed interface are hard to beat. Staring at a tiny Atari SM124 monitor was a pain though, but I assume a well resourced band like Skinny Puppy could afford one of the bigger screens!
@stephenwhite506
@stephenwhite506 6 месяцев назад
I think the best looking ST is the original with the external power supply and disk drive.
@whiskeysk
@whiskeysk 6 месяцев назад
Agree wholeheartedly, the original 260/520 cases are my favourite, together with the Mega ST pizza box and its separate keyboard. I don't like the Mega STE/TT case and keyboard that much.
@RetroKrazy
@RetroKrazy 6 месяцев назад
I have three STs in various guises. As an Amiga owner first, I know how hard it not to be bias. Still, can't say I've had the urge to repair one yet... 😆
@RetroBytesUK
@RetroBytesUK 6 месяцев назад
Just love the intro Glen😂
@coyote_den
@coyote_den 6 месяцев назад
Cat spotted at @2:40!
@7828191
@7828191 6 месяцев назад
The sound is about in the same class as MSX 1 Konami modules from 1987 with the extra sound chip added.
@ruawhitepaw
@ruawhitepaw 6 месяцев назад
I still love happy hardcore and listen to it a lot! A shame they don't make much music like that anymore.
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Nothing beats the mid to late 90s era for me. I got back into it in the late 00s and there were a few good tracks to be had. Probably have about 200 singles on vinyl and I still enjoy spinning the decks most Friday evenings. HTID.
@thebaldconvict
@thebaldconvict 6 месяцев назад
​@CRG My first ever search on the internet in an internet cafe back in about 94/95 as a highschool teen just before we got the internet at home. You can imagine the shock as I searched for "Hardcore"!!
@JVHShack
@JVHShack 6 месяцев назад
Idea for you, Glenn: Dave mentioned an "ASCI to SCSI" adapter. If that's something obtainable, why not see if a BlueSCSI will run on your Atari ST after it's been resurrected?
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
I like that idea, I'll look into it.
@AtariCrypt
@AtariCrypt 6 месяцев назад
Loving the sense of humour 😂 Great video ❤ /|\
@FindLiberty
@FindLiberty 6 месяцев назад
Interesting. Always used monochrome HiRez Mode; never tried running any games on it. Color output looks horrid at such low resolution and huge icon/text size. OEM Ext HDD was clunky, but it worked fine back in early 1980's, decades before the GoTek and SSD solutions. BiaB was the MIDI play toy a few years later. There was a non-polarized cap in the B&W monitor vertical circuit that required frequent replacement. Good times! Thanks for this repair blast from the past video!
@KolliRail
@KolliRail 6 месяцев назад
Take a look at the 'sea of colour' demo. That's another great looking and sounding STE demo!
@mikegravgaard340
@mikegravgaard340 6 месяцев назад
I still am an Amiga guy and look at the Atari line as an attempt to beat the Amiga to the 16 bit era with a lesser and compromised machine. I was going to suggest using ring connectors for attaching to the power supply heat sink to avoid future solder joint cracking\separtion. I have found the blue topped Gorilla glue superglue to be very good if you are interested. Sets with seconds and is similar to superglue of the 90s and has the strong vapours.
@bufordmaddogtannen
@bufordmaddogtannen 5 месяцев назад
That's exactly what the Atari ST was. It was a revenge project from Jack Tramiel after he departed from Commodore. As a result they released an unfinished machine.
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 14 дней назад
You could swap out that PSU in the ATARI 520 STE with a Meanwell PSU.
@fu1r4
@fu1r4 6 месяцев назад
My only enemies back in the 80s was the Atari owners!
@Vindolin
@Vindolin 6 месяцев назад
Just because we were able to play Dungeon Master a year before you? 😅
@fu1r4
@fu1r4 6 месяцев назад
😄@@Vindolin
@valenrn8657
@valenrn8657 5 месяцев назад
Atari STe can display 16 colors from the 4096 color palette.
@BartPellens
@BartPellens 6 месяцев назад
Great video. As an Amiga user I've never see the insides of an STe... so it was very informative. Is there a specific reason why you don't seem to clean up the flux residue after soldering?
@salmon85
@salmon85 6 месяцев назад
there are keyboard shortcuts to move the mouse in the GEM os. You can hold Alternate and use the arrow keys to move the pointer, Holding shift either makes it move quicker or slower (I forget which way around). Ins will do the mouse click, I think home is right click. The Amiga has a similar combination too for workbench, I know the shift key is the opposite to the Atari. You hold the left Amiga key and use the arrow keys. I think left alt is left click (while holding the amiga key) For years as a kid I use the keys on both machines (since I didn't have a working mouse). Can't remember how I came about knowing this.
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
I wasn't aware of that for either machine but thanks for the tip. Also yeah it's gem not tos... oh well, that's another thing learned.
@salmon85
@salmon85 6 месяцев назад
@@CRG Gem was just the graphical part of TOS anyway, it was baked in and would boot into GEM if you left it long enough without a disk inserted. It wasn't like loading a different workbench with a certain kickstart.
@SpaceHero-Elite
@SpaceHero-Elite 6 месяцев назад
Lol love the thumbnail
@jazzdirt
@jazzdirt 6 месяцев назад
Desktop environment is called GEM. TOS is the operating system, GEM is the Graphical interface.. No in the '90 it was also mainly just banter.. I had an ATARI collection starting with a 400.. A friend of mine had a Commodore/Amiga collection.. Basically the both of us where always finding points to "outdo" the other machine... Basically in the end we decided that we both had the computer that was the best at what we used it for.. I'm a musician, he's a graphical designer...
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Told you I knew nothing about these machines 😅
@bundesautobahn7
@bundesautobahn7 6 месяцев назад
Not an ST but an ST lookalike: My first computer before I had my first PC was an Atari XE, I believe a 130 XE. I never really appreciated it when I was a child, but I wish I had one again now, just to play around with it. We had a C64 at our elementary school, where we played things like Hangman and Battleship. Also a computer I never fully appreciated but wish I had now.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 6 месяцев назад
you can get C64 for pretty cheap, Atari 8-bits are still reachable but starting to get less affordable, so hurry up. Or you can simply go the emulator way, for free or for money...
@pallie233
@pallie233 3 месяца назад
Omg I need to get my ST and Amega out of the loft now !
@JesterEric
@JesterEric 6 месяцев назад
Originally there were more differences between the 1040 and 520stfm. The 1040 had a double sided disk drive and the 520 single sided. As introduced the 1040 had no tv modulator and was the 1040stf
@j.tann1970
@j.tann1970 6 месяцев назад
You do make one mistake, TOS is the part of the OS that contains the main basic functionality of the system but the desktop is called GEM. So when you closed the game with the asterisk key you were returning to GEM not TOS.
@dempseydiscus
@dempseydiscus 6 месяцев назад
"I suppose it has a certain amount of... charm" ;-))))
@Stefan_Payne
@Stefan_Payne 6 месяцев назад
About those diodes: Was there space for a TO220 or 247 form factor Diode?
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Not sure, I didn't have the old ones out just reflowed their solder points.
@cathrynm
@cathrynm Месяц назад
The STs all survived because they have no Varta batteries. Nice 'cat action' act 10:24
@chainq68k
@chainq68k 6 месяцев назад
Another Amiga guy here. Atari STEs are unfixable. I spent countless hours on mine, added all the "mandatory" fixes... It still has gremlins I can't seem to track down. It's a great machine for the rare moments when it works, though. Clicked like. Now on to watch the video. :)
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Hope you enjoyed the video. I'm looking forward to getting my own stfm sorted.
@Stefan_Payne
@Stefan_Payne 6 месяцев назад
WHOA, Panasonic FM as recommended replacements? Those are quite low ESR... That's surprising, especially given the age of the device...
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
What would you have recommended? Capacitor selection wouldn't be my strong point so I just went with those recommended
@Stefan_Payne
@Stefan_Payne 6 месяцев назад
Hoi For such an old system, without tests, I'd go with the good old, Panasonic FC. Or similar. @@CRG Though only through tests (under load, with an Osciloscope) it is possible to say which is the better choice. It might be that with the Panasonic FM (and FK), the Ripple is lower.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 6 месяцев назад
@@Stefan_Payne the Exxos is a well known Atari ST guru, those recommendations by him are well tested and improve often the ST behavior. Edit: Im just saying, not telling you are wrong or something.
@stevehorne5536
@stevehorne5536 6 месяцев назад
There was something wierd going on with TOS version numbers. There were only five 1.x versions released - 1.0, 1.2, 1.4, 1.6, and 1.62. However, TOS 1.2 was sometimes presented as TOS 1.02, 1.4 sometimes presented as 1.04 etc. I always assumed there was some kind of BCD encoding with two bytes issue where for some reason with 1.2 was encoded as 01 and 02, and sometimes the leading zero of 02 was displayed but sometimes not, then when they got to 1.62 it only fitted as 01 62 so there was no leading zero to (sometimes) display. Anyway, TOS 1.06 = TOS 1.6 which was the first STE version of TOS IIRC, and the difference between 1.6 and 1.62 are bug fixes. There's a program STE_FIX.PRG you could get to patch the bugs in 1.6 at a fairly small cost (I guess some RAM to store the patched ROM functions, plus the time to run the program). TOS versions 2.02, 2.04 and 2.05 (I assume also presented as 2.2, 2.4 and 2.5 though I don't know for sure) were released for Mega STEs, but also still worked for basic STEs and I think STFMs, but I don't think they were widely used other than for those quite rare Mega STEs - maybe there are some software compatibility issues?
@brianlhughes
@brianlhughes 6 месяцев назад
I liked the zak MacKraken game
@slyer5515
@slyer5515 6 месяцев назад
Awesome vid m8, how do I contact you about repairing 2 x A2000 motherboards?
@user-wk5pq7et3d
@user-wk5pq7et3d 6 месяцев назад
Привет! Некоторые квадратные чипы имеют плохой контакт. Иногда, когда случается, что атари не стартует помогает просто надавить на чип или вытащить и вставить на место.
@kevin34ct
@kevin34ct 6 месяцев назад
The MMU chip inside must have reseated in shipping.
@DaveWatkinsMusic
@DaveWatkinsMusic 6 месяцев назад
I think that cartridge is probably Cubase or some sort of music production program still made today by Steinberg today. Might be a protection dongle. Not sure as I've not watched all your video yet.
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
It is indeed for CuBase but I didn't end up doing anything with it in the video.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 6 месяцев назад
@@CRG one important heads up, there is "this side up" written on the cartridge since you can attach it both ways. The wrong way will kill the cartridge and may even kill the computer. There is no lock.
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 6 месяцев назад
It's the copy protection dongle for Pro24, the predecessor to Cubase. I find it pretty amazing that one of today's sophisticated Digital Audio Workstations started life as a MIDI only application on the ST! Likewise with one of the other incredibly powerful DAWs, Logic, which started life as a product called Creator on the ST.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 6 месяцев назад
@@chriswareham actually, the very very first real DAW was Cubase Audio Falcon, for Atari Falcon030.
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 6 месяцев назад
@@madigorfkgoogle9349 The Falcon was such an amazing machine! A shame that Atari was in such a terrible financial mess by the time they released it. I wonder if the New England Digital Synclavier can be considered as a DAW, since that supported direct to disk recording way back in 1984? It cost something like $200,000 though.
@Lucretia9000
@Lucretia9000 6 месяцев назад
The YM2149 was Yamaha's version of the AY chip from the later Spectrum's. I had an 520 STFM before I upgraded to an A500+. Maybe you should look at trying to get an old Falcon? I would've expected them to have ported SCUMMVM to use the blitter for scrolling because that looked like cpu scrolling on MI.
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Would love to get a falcon but considering one sold recently for about £2500 I think that puts it beyond my budget. ScummVM needs more power than the 68k can deliver. Even the 030 in the falcon will struggle if its performance is anything like the Amiga. You'd need to go to an 040 or 060.
@Lucretia9000
@Lucretia9000 6 месяцев назад
@@CRG Yeah, that's almost Amiga levels of stupid. And that's why I mention using the blitter to scroll so it frees up the CPU. What's the point of having hardware and then not using it?
@thomassmith4999
@thomassmith4999 6 месяцев назад
@@Lucretia9000 Almost?! Amigas are dirt cheap compared to the Falcon. Put a Pistorm 32 in a A1200 and it's magnitudes faster than any Falcon btw.
@Lucretia9000
@Lucretia9000 6 месяцев назад
@@thomassmith4999 I'm, aware of the pistorm, but look at the prices for non-pistorm accelerators, vampire's and 060's, 040's in particular.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 6 месяцев назад
@@thomassmith4999 why would you do something that stupid to put a Pistorm32 in A1200, or Vampire... I mean, you can simply use emulator, if you want to pretend to have the "fastest" Amiga beating "poor" Atari. Amiga folks are still not the brightest... And if you call 500+€ for A1200 and another 140€ for the Pistorm32/Pi dirt cheap, then I want your bank account, lol. And you still wont have the abilities of Falcon...
@bufordmaddogtannen
@bufordmaddogtannen 5 месяцев назад
What banter? At the time listening to Atari users arguing was like listening to people owning a Vauxhall trying to convince Ferrari owners the Vauxhall was better because it came with a drink holder. 🤣🚗
@CRG
@CRG 5 месяцев назад
Well, drink holders are useful 😅
@bufordmaddogtannen
@bufordmaddogtannen 5 месяцев назад
@@CRG. ⁠sure, they take your mind off from the sounds coming out of the car sound system. Pi pi ti pri piti priii Priii pitipri. 🤣
@Boris_Amiga1200
@Boris_Amiga1200 6 месяцев назад
Oh interesting video! Never seen Atari in action, never seen a motherboard! This is just nice video about it! It is interesting computer, nice chips on motherboard! Sound in game Secret of monkey island is better on Amiga 500!
@tjtarget2690
@tjtarget2690 6 месяцев назад
Notification Squad! :)
@hrenes
@hrenes 6 месяцев назад
Atari, nah, never try to repaire this... :)
@paulklasmann1218
@paulklasmann1218 6 месяцев назад
The best thing for it is to throw it in the bin after removing the CPU to use in a better computer. 😜
@ropersonline
@ropersonline 6 месяцев назад
Shame you didn't try the hi-rez mode. You had the software, you had the dongle, and yet you missed out... You even could have discovered that The Secret of Monkey Island also worked in hi-rez mode too.
@vittekantilles4178
@vittekantilles4178 6 месяцев назад
Ugh.. chopping up a case for a gotek.... Never understand that.
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 6 месяцев назад
With hindsight I regret not adding the HXC or a Gotek as an external, second floppy drive, and keeping the internal floppy drive stock.
@vittekantilles4178
@vittekantilles4178 6 месяцев назад
@@chriswareham Ah guess it's your Atari. Welly yeah, that's what most people do when they add a gotek. At least yours looks like some effort was put into it to make the cut nice. I've seen FAR worse (Usually on Amigas).
@G-ra-ha-m
@G-ra-ha-m 6 месяцев назад
The capacitors in the PSU all look to be cooked, and the diode leg - soldered onto aluminium? Perhaps spotwelded, but either way, a terrible idea :D
@TheRealBobHickman
@TheRealBobHickman 6 месяцев назад
Seems like a cost-saving design. I think some kind of clamp would have been better.
@G-ra-ha-m
@G-ra-ha-m 6 месяцев назад
@@TheRealBobHickman Yes, a tapped 3mm hole, a screw and a tag would be normal !
@bufordmaddogtannen
@bufordmaddogtannen 5 месяцев назад
Did you bleach your hands after finishing the repair? 😂
@CRG
@CRG 5 месяцев назад
Hands, eyes, desk and tools 😅
@mkrleza
@mkrleza 6 месяцев назад
Have 520 STEs even existed? I thought there were only 1040 STE models.
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 6 месяцев назад
Yes, this machine is mine, and definitely came badged as a 520 STE. I guess a lot of people only saw an ST in music setups, where a 1040 was the standard as that had enough memory in its stock configuration to run the most popular MIDI sequencing packages. The 520 models seem to have been more popular for gaming setups, as most titles targetted the "base" configuration of 512KB, so spending considerably more on a 1MB model was a bit pointless. I assume that's why the extended "E" models continued to be available in 512KB and 1MB versions.
@mkrleza
@mkrleza 6 месяцев назад
@@chriswareham Thanks. I grew up in the 80'es. First there were C64 vs Speccy "wars" (I owned a C64) and then Amiga vs Atari (I owned an Amiga - as seen by my avatar ;-) ) between my friends... But I really never came across a 520STE. You learn something new every day.
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 6 месяцев назад
@@mkrleza The C64 was my first computer, and I really wanted an Amiga when it was released. I finally bought an A600 during the COVID lockdown, and it's been interesting to compare it to the ST!
@2009numan
@2009numan 6 месяцев назад
evertbody knew it was going to be an atari before you opened the box as it says it in the video title
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
I bet you're fun at parties.
@2009numan
@2009numan 6 месяцев назад
@@CRG I was only stating the obvious
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
I was just poking fun at the atari vs amiga thing. But yes you're right, it's in the video title and thumbnail but I had to have it in there so people knew what the video was about. Just pretend the guy in the video didn't know what it was 😅
@jasonlapp4559
@jasonlapp4559 6 месяцев назад
Cooler than amiga? Maybe his accent threw me. I know he didn't say that. Or maybe he was brainwashed. Poor guy.
@bufordmaddogtannen
@bufordmaddogtannen 5 месяцев назад
Less power > less heat, hence cooler. 😂🤣
@mehere3013
@mehere3013 6 месяцев назад
why cant he fixit , bith are electronics, title is rubbish
@thomassmith4999
@thomassmith4999 6 месяцев назад
Define fix? put it in a skip bin? then sure go ahead, fix it
@SproutyPottedPlant
@SproutyPottedPlant 6 месяцев назад
My, it’s got Cubase ❤
@VK2FVAX
@VK2FVAX 6 месяцев назад
Y'know.. I saw you touching it in this video.. you'll need to wash your hands thoroughly after touching it. The crying and scrubbing yourself whilst rocking violently in the corner of the shower is ... well.. all perfectly normal Atari owner behavior. (Just sayin..)
@T8staDiM3rda
@T8staDiM3rda 6 месяцев назад
Welcome to the dark Side.😂
@CRG
@CRG 6 месяцев назад
Darth, is that you? 😂 Seriously though I'm looking forward to get my own STFM sorted. It's been a long time coming.
@amerism4530
@amerism4530 2 месяца назад
hi mate i need some help do you have a email?
@CRG
@CRG 2 месяца назад
There's an email address in the channel information page.
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