Can this Device change the WAY you DRAW and PAINT ??! REVIEW of the DRAWSCOPE 

Most people don't seem to understand that devices like this and the various ones that actually let you trace a figure or model aren't "cheating". You still need actual talent or skill to reproduce a thing in a pencil drawing or a painting. What they do is speed up the process a bit... taking some of the initial measurements and the "fussy bits" out of the process. You'll still need to know about shading, coloring, etc. There's just no shortcuts around learning those things.

I sometimes use a projector when transferring one of my normal-sized sketches on to a bigger surface. I do this not because I can't go by free hand myself, even though I must admit it's somewhat of a struggle for me, but because it saves a ton of time.

Hi Florent I love your channel. Your review is thorough but thought I’d give My honest review as well, if anyone is looking for another opinion. So if it helps anyone, then cool: I just got one as a gift for Christmas and I really like it. I started drawing and then oil painting only less than a year ago when I turned ripe young age of 40 😵😬 lol. The drawscope is certainly helpful for students or someone in my case as Florent stated, as I struggle and am trying hard to get better at drawing. I feel like the drawing and pre-painting drawing and sketching etc is number one aspect of getting into art that is the most difficult, most work and patience to do WELL, and super important to the success of any of the subsequent aspects like blocking in, correcting etc. I honestly can say that not only has this drawscope tool helped me lay the ground work for painting with correct proportions, but it has in a strong way quickly trained me to see some of the tendencies of mistakes that I did not realize I was even making as often as I was. It’s quite similar to having a teacher looking over your shoulder letting you know “hey you keep flattening the nose... you drew the left eye too small and slightly lower... the value on his forehead is not the same as the nose like you just did... “ etc. I think this will help me not only learn faster but it absolutely removes SO much of the frustration and confusion a beginner like me feels when they know they made mistakes but can’t figure out what exactly they are; let alone how to fix them. Something like the drawscope I will even say can help keep people from quitting and giving up from frustration and that in itself to me is worth more than the cost. But I digress... It takes a little practice to get use to and become more useful as you get more use to using it. I don’t know if you experienced it but until I did get use to it I would get a sharp head ache from my eyes nonstop trying to focus and work out what I was doing. It’s made well, solid materials and I do think it’s worth the money as I would have bought one if I wasn’t given one. It’s def worth more than $25 like someone else had said. Nothing cost $25 that’s worth anything. Maybe in 1982 but it’s 2019 things cost money and if you want good things you have to spend it. There is plenty of garbage out there that cost $25 and also junk that cost much more. Point is I would say I don’t mind to spend more money for nicer things and this Drawscope is in the realm of nice things and not left me feeling ripped off at all. You can tell the people who make it care about it. That’s more important to me than saving some money and owning crap to show for it. 🤷🏼‍♂️ my 2 cents, go for it 👍🏼👍🏼

Nice points made. Not tracing, but rather allows you to check your own accuracy and make adjustments.

The old art world debates about cheating, fairness and skill. I remember heated arguments among my art class peers about using tracing paper, transfer paper, gridlines or projectors compared to freehand.

Good review. Excellent point about checking color and values. I also like the point about emulating some aspect of the instructor feedback.

Starting the discovery of mirrors and the development of modern optics in the 15th century all the artists started to use both the camera obscura and lucida. Modern realism is dued to these devices. Caravaggio used it. Probably Leonardo too. We had traced art starting from the end of middle age up to the modern Avanguardie, when artists moved back to expressionism.

'Tim's Vermeer' explore and claim that Vermeer did his paintings with an optical device that is why his painting are so real (lighting fading, etc)...that movie (Tim's Vermeer) is a good documentary to watch! Thank you for the review...i personally think it is like using a calculator for math..yes its using technology and science..so it is more like you need to know what you're doing in order to draw/paint using the drawscope!!!

It is practically impossible to cheat using a device in modern painting because all drawing and painting is projection. You are projecting your idea onto a surface and so you depict it by drawing it, painting it and so on. So I would say no - using devices like digital cameras and so on to draw and paint after what you capture on them is not cheating in any form to my awareness. I might as well want to try this. Currently I use a tiny light board and a large flat screen TV. The flat screen TV is used most of the time now.I am interested in this device and in the device known as Lucy. Thanks for this!

I wouldn't call it "cheating" because what it really matters is the final product which is not easy to achieve.

merci pour la video. J'ai vu bcp de publicite pour un outil similaire qui promettait un dessin parfait... a tel point que j'ai pense que c'etait un attrappe-nigaud! Je comprends maintenant l'utilisation qu'on peut en faire, notamment quand on travaille seul. Il est parfoit utile d'avoir un regard exterieur ou, a defautl, un outil de correction! Je profite de l'occasion pour te dire que c'est un plaisir de t'ecouter : ton anglais est parfait! Je suis en general genee par les accents en anglais et habituellement reconce a ecouter les videos en entier, meme sur un theme qui m interesse. Ce n'est pas le cas ici : keep it on!

Thanks for explanation! I just bought few days ago your oil course on streaming. Amazing!)) Keep on following you!))))

Caravaggio and Canaletto, two of the biggest italian painters, used some tools to trace the figures on the canvas. What made the difference was the talent they had when using the colours, so alive and unique. So I would not call it cheating, just a faster way to draw.

Hello Florent! I came your channel because saw an advertise of draw scope. I have an camera lucida, for many years without use. I appreciate way you saw the use for draw scope! Anyway this has transparency projection that is characteristic of camera lucida? On products site looks like has, even they don't talk about camera lucida itself. Thanks for you review, best wishes!!!

I been studying portraits, faces , eyes, hands, postures for some time now . I usually draw free hand. My natural style is a mixture of cartoon/realistic . There are other times I use compass protractors, rulers , a window against the light to get some lines right for proportions specialIy if I want to go more realistic as its harder for me. I think this is really useful if u are a self taught artist still learning and still developing your own style. Depends also in your goals. Personally I want to become really good at realistic portraits so any device that will help me learn, grow, get closer to my goals is always a must. A real true artist has a true passion, the desire to learn more and more , the ceative process is huge , they never stop studying shapes, light, researching and you definitely transmit that through your work as it has depth and soul. Wouldn't worry too much if people cheat with this tool, you can see it straight away.

All in how it's used, just like all other art equipment. I'd try it. Certainly it's just another tool that could come in handy in some situations.

I wonder if I could get used to looking through it... When I draw/paint in class from reference photos I don't have much problem with proportions, maybe because the surface and a photo is already a closed composition in some sense. The problem with me comes when I work from life and there is thousands of things to look at lol. Maybe it's worth a try. Thank you for the review

Everything is up for grabs when working in the arts. I personally prefer to draw and paint from life in a process of selection and gut response and distort and eliminate where necessary. It involves being aware of the total subject and drawing all over the surface from point to point without being mechanical.

You are a born educator!!!!! Thank you

Ive seen people use duck tape for painting straight lines. Its not cheating, but using available tools.

Love your honesty!

it seems to help me training what my tutor calls a "measuring eye" especially when I am practicing alone and he is not there to guide me

young boy I truly love your accent... is perfectly understanding... you ought to have a huge good culture, to express that way!

Looks like a really great device for autodidacts pursuing sight-size. A bit expensive, in my opinion.

Thank you. That was very helpful

Good evaluation !

I agree that this devise is useful for checking proportions and reference, like proportional dividers a reference. I think that the true devise is understanding proportions and shapes and their relationships, value, sight sizing and just plain hard work 😓 and experience. Nothing will replace research, hard work and making mistakes.

where can i get one of these ?

great information. Could you tell me/everyone about the fantastic head you drew please.

what company do you have an easel?

I think......The ultimate goal is to train your eye to see differences and make adjustments without devices. The better you can train your eye without devices the more versatile you will become as a painter in all situations including plein air. However..... these devices can assist your learning process just the same way as all other devices including string, unit of measurement etc.... So in that regard I don't regard any device as cheating. But it is like riding a bike with the training wheels still attached. If you wish to continue to rely on devices instead of ultimately training your eye to see differences, then that's up to you and the type of artist you wish to be. For me, training your eye without devices is the ultimate goal, because the final result will have more of your spirit. If the final result has some degree of difference, so be it, they are your differences, and anyway, not many people will notice differences once you have removed the reference. If you wish to continue relying on devices deep into your journey beyond curiosity, then you may eventually stunt your growth, but that's up to you.

I'll try this out and check out other methods.

Porque no hay un vídeo de Drawscope donde se explique en español ?? El drawscope fue diseñado en España y no hay un solo vídeo en español qué raro .,!!!

I guess is very useful for drawing but we can't forget the true challenge is to transform those line on the flat surface in something more complicated. Drawing fastly the objects with more acurate proportion can make you go fast, and no one is cheating cause deeply you know you can do it, but slower. So I guees if there is a fast option that you can use it to start to painting is wonderful.

Canaletto used huge camera obscura he would sit in In Venise 🎭 and trace the architecture for hours,days and made awesome art that is highly respected.

Dónde la puedo comprar? Saludos desde Zacatecas México

can you make camera luicida review?

Very nice, very useful

You can do the same thing by just aligning your canvas along side your landscape or model and taking relative measures with your pencil or brush

Haven’t come to any mention of cost, but just looking at this video this device can’t cost more than $10-$15US. Edit: Looked at website, vendor wants $60US (free shipping). Too much. Also, the vendor advertises it for tracing.

it's soo cool!!!

Can you make it en francais? Because I don't bite que dalle and it s dommage..merci.

I think simply using plumb and level lines and understanding perspective/proportions is the best way. Most artists never really need such devices.

In a way I see it as a third wheel for a bicycle... good to get you started in a right way

The one thing stopping me from buying one is the price, and the fact that the basic model does not have the lanyard and tripod mount. These things are very cheap to add. To get them you have to spend another £10 odd pounds, on top of the already overpriced £50 for the basic model. If it was £50, including the lanyard and tripod adapter, I might be tempted.

That’s great... thanks

Bonjour florent je tiens a tu remercie infiniment pour tts les informations que tu nous partage vraiment de mes profondeurs car j'ai tellement appris de toi plus ce que j'ai appris dans les coures de mon école ...sincèrement ...et pour cette jolie appareil je crois quelle peux aider bcp bcp des étudiants vraiment et aussi il existe un sorte de compas presque on peux faire la même chose avec mais d'une maniéré différente je viens de voir une vidéo sur RU-vid concernant ca ma question est ce que vous l'avais déjas utilisé ?? entendre parlé ? et c'est quoi ton avis ?? car je le trouve tés utile mais bizarrement aucun aucun de mes professeures des beaux arts m'ont parlé ? mais un oui merci la video ( Stefan Baumann Proportional Divider The Best Keep Secret to Improve Your Drawing )

This seams to be a very expensive periscope. You should mention this

I was just thinking how to make proportions easier when I was painting a dog. It looked like a dog but not the dog I was painting :D

I dreamed about this last night

Nifty!

If you're using sight size, you can get the same effect with just a flat mirror held perpendicular to your face, in front of your nose with both eyes open. Try it. But only if you use sight size method. As far as optics in art history goes, I reckon there's a good chance any artist who painted a self portrait didn't.

Ever ever since this virus I've been thinking about maybe I should try to go back drawing there's a pair other devices but I think I'll give this one and the other one draw Lucy a chance as right now i need to do some thing

Some discrepency here, you say (5:00) it's not for tracing, it'd be "a headache" to trace with the drawscope. And yet on their website they say you can trace and show pictures of the act of tracing ....... so which is it ?

For the record, the word "lÚcida" stresses on the "u" of the first syllable both in Latin and in Italian, and the "c" is pronounced as in "cheese".

So this tool is about as good as squinting your eye, but it comes with an expense. However, I can see how it can be somewhat useful, sometimes. Not indispensable, just a little bit handy at times.

I am 56yo. I started drawing, better than an average adult, before I enrolled in Gr1. I stopped drawing about 36 years ago. I draw without any aid, no tutorial or lessons. I made at least 2 drawings now after decades of nothing, coz of the pandemic. Well, the first gave me a headache. The second I used a downloaded app where I can trace. The tracing wasn’t perfect, but helped with the measurements. After tracing, it was back to my skill. And still got the headache after.

Je ne comprends pas l’anglais, j’ai fait lv2 allemand au collège et lycée. Ma question est : est ce que tu recommandes ce produit ? Merci.

You've got a good channel. Don't sell yourself short. Go ahead and do some other product reviews. Even if you don't think anyone would be interested it, may still contain beneficial information that some of your viewers could still benefit from. Try it. You never know. The Camera Lucida device looks like a modern day table-top tracing projection device. Amazon sell similar devices on its website.

A quand de nouveaux tutoriaux en Français? Merci

oPPS! Went to buy one and they are not available.

How much?!!!!

NO!!!!! It's not cheating! Only an arrogant self-righteous artist would say that. ( Sorry if that a little strong) but if a plain white canvas can sell for millions then using an aid is nothing if it's part of an artists method to speed up productivity then so be it.

In my opinion is not cheating, if Vermeer use Dark Camera and produce his famous paintings, why not?

Hey, just want to let you know that your image and clips of this video were used in an advertisement for drawscope that I saw on instagram. If you're getting paid for that, great! If not, you might want to be!

How about using a projector or beamer

But Dependency is not good

What is cheating really? If you really want to not cheat dont work from the model directly and do it all from memory perfectly.

I need one of these, how do I qualify to do reviews, cause buying one isn't an option. Broke.

Just go to a toy store and buy a $20 image projector and trace the image projected onto your canvas.

Ok, many people here are saying that this is not cheating. I just say, I disagree. And I would never use it. But that is clearly just my own personal position.

Great review but these things are Way over priced for what it is like most art supplies!

Moi ce serait pas de la triche , juste pour reproduire en plus grand ce que j ai deja produit en plus petit .Si ca marche , je gannerai du temps en productivite .C ' est peut etre mieux aussi pour la myopie justement .

Is auto tune for singers cheating then?? How about plagarism for writing? Art you get away with murder i swear.

I hate the word cheating, when it comes to art. There is no such thing as cheat. No one in the world said you can't use aids to help. Technically a color wheel is cheating, and every single tool for art. Every single professional throughout history used aids.

The question you should have addressed in the video would be, 'do you find the price of $89 to be a good value?'. If you have a comment on that, it would be appreciated. Also, did they pay you for this review, either with the product or with money...?

How super. Like athletes, good artist will try anything to gain an advantage.

I know you are happy with your freebee and artists, in general, are not that good at marketing but you should ask your sponsors a promo code for your subscribers and viewers for promoting their products.

If you are a person who does intricate line work and claims to be a master of line, then optical devices are 'cheating'. If you are a painter, they are just a tool that helps you get to the painting more efficiently.

Your argument why it would not be useful as a tracing tool is not explained, and at complete odds with drawscopes own advertising videos in which the tracing element is the primary selling point.

!!!!!!!!! $79.00 !!!!!!! for one magnifying glass and one mirror in a box,,,,,,, I can manufacture one for much less.

It's cheating & not cheating. Premise matters. To learn from, to check accuracy, it's not much different than a proportional divider. If used for tracing, it's cheating. Regardless, "F" that price!

Get ya a camera lucida and you're good to go.

2:12 come on… hes still a god even if he used the latest tech, it’s alright to admit it haha.

En español?

Is photography cheating? Is photography art?

To pay $79 bucks is a rip-off.

Vermeer. I rest my case.

I am blind in one eye so this may not work for me

I've got one eye , I'm outa here.

Handcuffs before video?

3d eye

Salut ! Pourquoi ne pas nous traduire tes vidéos ds la langue de Descartes ?? snif! :)

Lo encuentro un engaño

I wouldn't pay for this. A pencil works just fine to sight size.

this is not work

Pretty much of the 'happy accident' school myself, however, the many Thai copyists here would like it.

une personne de votre calibre n'a pas vraiment besoin d'un appareil comme celui-ci. cet appareil est trop de travail. le cas échéant, c'est génial de déterminer la taille de votre toile avant d'en acheter une.

noice.

I hate the drawscope. 😡