Can this new tactic save weak defenders? 

those names are dumb

Lol

not creative with names maybe but the words he uses make complete sense

He probably grabbed it from baseball, where non standard defensive zoning/assignments are shifts. I'd call it a wheel switch, where everyone rotates one player around, but only where that's the switch type. Shift is a good generic "everyone picks up a man other than their standard man" name though.

Jokic shuffle or Hide the Joke(ick)

Imagine: Draymond and the Joker on the same team. 2 masterminds of the game from opposite ends of the floor.

He saving curry from being exposed, that's why Draymond is so important for warriors, once he retires, curry will not win again

​@@protkeytI mean he's with Curry who tbh fits him better and is arguably the best offensive player ever. Hes the best offensive player I've ever seen

You can't base a 'shift' defense on non-standard matchups (because then it's a man to man). Probably easiest to call wheel left or right when you have to mass switch. (I would call a mass shift switch a wheel switch, because every spoke has to rotate the same amount to make it work - double rotating one player in these shifts doesn't work against ball movement.)

@@blackjacktrial I think you're saying something interesting, but I'm having a little trouble parsing it. I think the idea of calling it a "wheel shift" is good, but I'm a bit confused about the rest of your comment. Is there something wrong with calling it "rotation hell" and why did you mention "non-standard matchups?"

Wow love that you were ahead on that rotation hell make sense especially the nba back the the wheel shift LOVE IT as it plays off of baseball THE SHIFT

Let’s start an online pod or forum and get these ideas out their !!!!

@@sergeynazaro1768 my HS actually runs a defense like this but it isn’t just a wheel shift. Essentially you have 2 guards up, 2 wings, and a middle. (Isn’t that just a zone?) Every position is interchangeable, with the focus being on matching up with the right offensive player. Guard to guard etc. If the offense looks like a 1,3,1 set, the defense will too. Principles: You will always have a man - never guard no one. 1 pass away, be in the gap. 2 passes away, 2 feet in the paint (this part is imperfect bc of the NBA’s Defensive 3 sec rule). On a drive, help across then the next man helps down. Never help up - protect the paint. (This can be adapted like all defenses to adjust for specific shooters.) Say the offense is a 5 out, with every Offensive player on the 3 pt line - 1Guard picks up ball on top 2Guard picks up a wing 1Wing picks up a wing opposite 2Guard 2Wing picks up corner opposite Wing Mid picks up last guy. Ball to 1Wing’s side wing - follow principles, defense shifts. Ball to corner - Mid on ball, 1Wing leaves perimeter and matches up in paint (help on baseline drive, low post, mid post, goes with a cutter until middle of the paint, etc), 1Guard replaces where the 1Wing was, 2 wing has all backside + skip passes, 2 guard has middle including high post/covers pass over the top into ball-side mid post. This is a lot and it’s not even half of it. I miss playing bball and it hasn’t even been 3 weeks. 🫥

Yeah, this part fascinates me.

At the expense of the other 4 defenders on the court having to do a little more.

How can you be an “mvp” but get targeted in nearly every offensive setup? 🤔

​@@twilson3133 im sure nash, AI, dirk, harden, and other all time greats would love to answer that. even if jokic was an above average defender, say something like steph curry whos a phenomenal defender in the warriors team scheme, targeting him would still be smart to wear him out and slow down his offense. no player is completely perfect, even then best players of all time had clear weaknesses in their game.

@@twilson3133U don t know,ask the Embid in the play offs,cause he is always cooked in the pick in rolls?

Exactly. And that's the reason why I'm a very good defender in basketball. I grew up playing soccer at a high level in Europe and from there I got my movement and it gave me a lot of understanding when it comes to help defense and just reading plays. I view basketball a lot less rigid than most players who actually grew up with it.

@@ballislife9924 Geometry, angles, being in the right spot first. Many do not think on this level.

@@ballislife9924 nice dude, here in latam football helps a lot in other sports, roles are defined but in the match a lot of things can happen

Yes, but the problem with it is it leaves the corners open. Corner threes are probably the most efficient shot in the game- it isn't great when the defense is late getting there. In my opinion, Denver goes a bit too far overloading the ball-side of the court, and pen-pop offenses frequently tear them up. Compare with Miami, where defenders are expected to fight over screens and play a more traditional defense...

The problem with Denver is that Murray and MPJ are also bad defenders.

​@@minnuss They're not liabilities, and they're good enough in a system like the video describes, where on ball defense isnt as valuable as sheer length and athleticism, which both Murray and mpj have.

Thanks for the support!

It hurts to watch them😂

It’s all playoff clips, when they actually play real defence. They do none of that during the season lol

He also showed Steve Nash, who is retired

He also showed Wilt Chamberlain and Magic Johnson

nearly all these clips are from the playoffs and hows he gonna do that for this season

Late reply, but as things get more complex the offense will also fail more often. The ingredients required to carry out complex offense are the same things required to carry out complex defense - communication, BBIQ, etc.

its pretty common but the better defenses in the league do this more

@@opalvenom1111 this particular scheme of early double > shifting to the paint is pretty unique to the Nuggets. Watching almost every game I can tell you it has plenty of flaws, but its been pretty solid for the most part. Biggest issue with this scheme is it gives up a ton of midrange real estate, and if the rotations on the perimeter aren't crisp, there are open looks.

Funny enough when you said this I thought of a box-and-1 where 4 guys play a “box” zone in the paint area and 1 guy plays man on someone you want to take away.

Kings are the only team in the West with a solid road record (above .600) Clippers next, at 19-18. Nuggets 18-18. Bucks, 76ers, Celtics & Knicks are above .600 on the road.

Exactly those two are never gonna be amazing defenders but they aren’t a active detriment to the defense they are adequate

There's another requirement: the rotation would need about 8 players at minimum, because you aren't really stationary in the game at any point.

Gobert gave his best (even holding the jersey ;D); Dude got overcooked

As always, the scouting report matters as well. Derrick shot .217 from 16ft-3pt line last year, so I'm sure that impacted the way Draymond guarded that possession and sagged off him.

the nets scored 122 in the game he's using as an example and the nuggets are 17th in drtg on the season. clearly they're not hiding him well enough

@♱gaiz♱ your 100% correct. It's harder to hide a center, they are usually the anchor of the defense and the rim protection.

I actually think Jokic could be a trojan horse in a way. If teams get too preoccupied with hunting him it will take them out of their offense and given how good Denver is on offense they really just have to be not awful on defense. To me the issue with Denver is less about Jokic and more about the non-Jokic minutes. They will need Jamal to be a lot better in the playoffs. But I've always viewed Denver as a team that needs help and luck to win a title. Or more than most. I think Ben said this recently but they have a smaller margin of error because the defense with the current personnel is just not going to be great. They have to win with their offense

biggest weakness in this defense is actually the mid range spacing it gives up. It worries me for the Nuggets if they end up matched against the Suns as they have 3 mid range super stars.

@@tylerpeters2820 I'm not following. How does it concede the mid-range? Essentially it's straight up man as long as the rotations are on time. Do you mean if the rotations are late you can drive and pull up?

it’s the people who don’t really care to understand basketball at it’s deepest level. i thought steph was hovering just above or a below average defender. you could see the effort from him on defense even if his impact wasn’t all that great. there are some guys that you literally don’t want them to guard anyone 1v1 and steph wasn’t one of them.

Stop making excuses he's a bad defender, name another "natural defender" who coach has to focus so much on just protecting him on d?

@@justinholland6132 you should steph’s efforts on a defensive possession vs Jokic’s effort. you’d see what we’re talking about. also we’re not saying he’s good he’s just not terrible.

This isn't something defenses have done much. You're either not knowledgeable or weird.

it hasn't taken off because every playoffs teams like the nash suns and 2016 hawks get dumpstered by superstar players. Curry had to elevate his defense over the years to become what he is and no amount of coach trickery can change how heliocentric basketball is at the end of the day

You need versatile players and those who still fill a role. It will be hard to get 5 LeBron James’. Something will need to sacrifice. At the end of the day talent wins above all

a big limitation is that your whole team needs to be clicking *including* your weakest defender. many weakest link defenders aren't as aware or engaged as others, which is what makes them weak. this definitely maximizes guys who are exploitable on ball but otherwise smart team defenders, like curry and jokic. even the fact that teams can't beat the shit out of them and wear them down in iso/pnr as relentlessly could be seen as an advantage

It seems the Raptors are attempting to do this

Mike Brown was with golden state in 2016/17 btw

Well, this completely shifted my enitire perspective on lacrosse

Not really , you need to explore more channels guy

@@md4111 Go ahead and list them for me then... I watch tons of content!

@@LaniSternRealty jxmyhighroller is another great NBA content youtuber

Everyone sets moving screens everytime on every level

That's the bread and butter of the Warriors' dynasty!

Appreciate that.