Can This Self Aware Dog Talk With Buttons?! 

yay, I was going to ask for this reaction!

I thought dogs were capable of understanding a few words. I saw a video of Neil de Grasse Tyson where a dog memorized the names of 600 toys, and could infer the name of new toys.

@@zerphase they can definitely recognize individual word assocations. But what they can’t do is string together words to make sentences as part of language.

When bunny pushed: more happy now... help... it's more similar to how coco the gorilla learned sign language in broken English. I would take the meaning of the buttons being pressed as the dog wanting something that makes them "more happy" such as a walk outside, playing with toys or a good belly scratch but it really depends on the owner's language and how they term stuff like that. If they normally ask the dog about being happy, or more happy before doing something enjoyable I would think then that it has nothing to do with an emotional state and was actually about the desire for something the dog likes. If that was the case, would that change your opinion on it?

It’s amusing how upon every discovery about animals and language, the “not language” goalposts always get moved.

She's just making the video for attention Obviously needs it bad

Hello Caroline, would anyone need buttons to understand when our furry friend comes to us when he/ she is not OK? Please bear in mind these are edited videos.

What was interesting is that Bonny said there was in stranger her paw. Which is a strange way to look at it.

@@colenewaltersmusicandother9330 it makes more sense. An intruder. Something that shouldn’t be there but it is. That’s a far deeper concept than just “paw hurt”. Bunny is extremely intelligent.

I remember that

My dogs respond to specific words also.

You just ignored the whole video huh?

Are you picking a fight?

You are right, and she validated the button "outside" saying that some people are using a bell to have the same effect. She is also thinking the same as you saying that there are cheaper options, like just talking to your dog. I think that what she is criticizing is the use of so many button, and the thought that dogs can make sentences and understand less concrete concept like "what" or "stranger"... like outside, walk... I'm sure with the habit you gave so many examples of what it was for your dog, but "what"... "friends"... how are they supposed to learn that...? Anyway, just a thought the bottom line is still that dogs are amazing x)

I agree I am about to start training my dog with the talking buttons, this is because I have recently noticed that he’s been trying to find ways to communicate his needs beyond the basics of OUTSIDE FOOD TOILET PLAY and the commands. Which by the way I taught him from the day he joined our family at 3 months and he mastered very quickly. I used hand signs at the time as it worked very well. He loves learning and I believe as he has learnt to distinguish between every single toy he has, without much training but by listening to me describing the toys (even down to the difference between blue boing boing and red boing boing -boing boing = ball) and after seeing Bunny the talking dog and Billi the talking cat, it would be a positive thingz! I’m not going to use super complex ‘human’ sentences but I strongly believe the person in this video hasn’t experienced building a close relationship and spending lots of time with a pet and probably not all pets learn in the same way. Just like not all owners are interested in doing this talking method, for me it takes nothing away from the wonderful ways my dog uses body language it’s simply an extra layer to make me understand him.

I completely agree! I thought it was harmless at first but wow. Things are getting out of control

Ty for this. I knew from the begining what a scam this is. Just bc humans are greedy. Im so sorry for how harmful thisbis for sonmany innocent beings

I was thinking the same thing. My son is non verbal, and autistic. We are teaching him to use a sound board to speak, but he is struggling with it. My son is human, and he is 7 and is struggling, so I don't see a dog being able to do this. Maybe some sort of primate, that would be a very interesting experiment. Idk if dogs have the ability to comprehend language as a concept in the first place.

​@@KristyAshcraft Would sign language help your child?

Ok let’s not allow one crazy lady to ruin it for everyone else.

You’re the most reasonable person with buttons I’ve seen. Obviously dogs understand single words or sounds, that’s the basis for how they interact so well with humans. Actual communication is way too far of a leap to make for a dog.

That's perfect for dogs. I put bells on strings by the door so they could paw the bells for potty. Like reverse door bells. 😂 But it worked.

@@tishie42 Yes! The bells act just like a button that makes a specific sound ( "Out!"). Your dog has used operant-conditioning on you: "If I jingle these bells, my person has learned to come open the door for me!" 😆 Some people can even recognize a certain bark or whine from their dog that means the same thing. If the dog utters that particular sound, they know he wants to, uh, use the facilities, lol.

@@AbsentWithoutLeaving my dog will sit by the door, then scratch it, and then adds a bark.

This is how I would use them. The buttons are for training us also.

Yeah, confirmation bias.......

One time out of how many? Even a broken clock is right twice a day. You cant pull one instance out of probably hundreds to use as “look it’s working”

Confirmation bias. Look it up.

Well that PROVES EVERYTHING!!!!!! 🤪

@@mikebarnacle1469 it would be if the owner hadn't directly said she was skeptical 🤦

We (Roscoe and I) are a part of that research! :)

i watched her billi video and she hasn't looked for any research or reached out to the pet owners - she's basing all her opinions (sorry, "observations") on one or two videos, and the research just isn't there yet (shockingly, i googled that to make sure i had my facts correct) she's also explaining that the animals can't possibly be learning basic concepts of language - while using the dogs being taught the basics of language learning to disprove that very thing she also uses the sentence structure to "disprove" this, while ignoring or not realizing that subject-verb-object is absolutely valid sentence structure - asl uses it basically, while she's right to be skeptical, she's decided that there's no way she's wrong and is talking out of her butt

@@larissafae2135 she also states that dogs don't have a concept of 'friend' or 'stranger' which is absurd because dogs absolutely know who/what smells familiar and associated with good memories, and smells that are unfamiliar. Dogs just learn to match our vocal sounds/button sounds woth their experiences.

@@GrandisSilva absolutely. is it language? in the technical sense, no - but it IS communication, which lay people will shorthand to "language" because that's what most of us understand animals have learned how to communicate with us over millenia, and this is another way to do it. cats only regularly vocalize with humans, because they know we don't understand pheromones. dogs have evolved to wiggle their eyebrows to get their way. it doesn't have to be an actual language for communication to happen i've been so salty about this for so long, you don't even know 😂😂😂

@@larissafae2135 can you explain to me how it's not language? It seems to me that the animals are learning to associate meanings/actions to particular sounds. Isn't that how children pick up language, or how adults learn a foreign one? And then they can press the corresponding buttons to communicate their wants.

That doesn't mean the dog understands the concepts of the words. she knows the hungry button brings food much like pawing her bowl did in the past, she knows playtime gets attention from your father in law, much like pawing at his leg would do or barking and bouncing around. The dog also knows to look for something and if its outside it will hit the outside button not because it understands the word outside but because it gets you to let it outside. My dog as a kid would ring bells to be let outside, making the bell a button the plays a word to you doesn't mean the dog understands the word.

Exactly the way a child learns!!!!

@@johnschwalb You do know you just exactly described how language and children learning language works, right?

​@@johnschwalb dogs do understand what words mean. They know their own name, and the names of people they live with. Even relatively untrained dogs recognize words like eat, outside, walk, ball, sit. We are simply programming buttons that say those commands, so the dogs can communicate what they want. Now, do I think these pets are having full blown, philosophical conversations through the buttons? Probably not. But it's REALLY not that far fetched to imagine that dogs who can associate words with things / commands, and use that in the inverse for communication. Example, pushing "eat" when they're hungry.

Studies using EEGs and MRIs to measure brain activity in dogs found that dogs do not have the ability to distinguish different words. Bad, sad, dad, mad, and glad all likely mean the same thing to a dog. It's how we say "bad" that matters to a dog as these studies showed that almost 50% of what they respond to when they hear a human speak is emotion and tone of voice. [1] royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.200851 [2] www.livescience.com/dogs-word-processing.html Additionally, many of these talking pet videos are clearly faked. As you can plainly see at the 3 minute mark of the below video. [3] ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jObcXvhZu_Q.html

Agreed

Yeah, and associating different buttons with actions or simple commands (like treat, outside, pet, etc) would be best. I don’t know why pronouns came into play, it’s really not needed.

Although my dog just walks to the door to go outside and that works just fine. If I’m not paying attention, they scratch the door. Don’t really need a button for simple needs if you are aware of your dog and it’s needs, and trained it properly

@@heatherb9853 very true

7:37 I think something you guys are misunderstanding is the buttons that say person are supposed to be programmed with "mom" or the person's name, the same thing with learner name, you supposed to program it with the dog's name. As someone else already commented, it's not much different than teaching verbal commands. I've heard of some support animals being able to learn and understand hundreds of commands

Yes Billi is the Queen :)

@CypyCup This whole thing mirrors a settled debate in science. This exact thing was tested with chimps and apes, and it was conclusively proven that even with years of training and conditioning they were still unable to form sentences. Even with the most successful examples would only really be able to understand single words without ever having the ability to link them together. Animals lack the processing capabilities that allow humans the ability to speak in complex ideas, and no amount of operant conditioning can change that reality. The story of what happened to those chimps and apes after these experiments never panned out is also depressing.

@@Pidgeon182 it's because of a gene called foxP2 that doesn't exist in most animals. It allows humans to hear two different sounds next to each other and discern a unique meaning. I.e. "knee" and "Ed" combined are "need" (obviously the E and D sounds being combined in Ed are also beholden to this). Birds also have an admittedly lower concentration of this gene and that is why their songs contain multiple sounds in quick succession.

@@Pidgeon182 Apes and monkeys do not have foxP2

Ive seen some billi vids where they make no sense

It literally looks like random smashing of buttons. And they cherry pick things that somewhat have coherent sense and claim the dog is self aware for fame. It's pathetic and so are people who buy this without question.

@@dejanhaskovic5204 i JUST said she may very well have not have that level of compensation. You not believing that this dog doesn't understand any of the buttons or strings of words she makes is pathetic and shows you clearly don't appreciate and understand the intelligence of dogs. I promise you when she's saying things like "Bunny walk outside" or "food hungry" she knows exactly what that means. If it's something they understand verbally then it would be easy to teach them to push the button.

@@romeor1229 No she doesn't. These are too advanced concepts for a dog to understand. The dog randomly smashes buttons and at some point it will obviously make something that makes sense unintentionally. It's pretty obvious at this point. It's like tarot readings. You get a bunch of random cards and you try to make up a story that fits your narative using confirmation bias which is what the owners seem to be doing here. And it doesn't even make sense since they changed the layout of the soundboard and the dog just magically knows what everything means. This would take year of practice to teach him all over again. It would imply dogs know how to read which is just ridiculous. This dog is either a hoax or the owners are very delusional.

@@dejanhaskovic5204 I promise you she knows exactly what walked means and food and go outside. These concepts are very easy to teach to a dog along with their name. It's very simple to teach a dog to hit a button and then when they hear "outside" they're going to associate that button with going outside. They know what that word means regardless of whether or not human or a button says it. I'm not claiming that she understands deep concepts or has the comprehension of a human but it's ridiculous to say that she doesn't understand a single button. Again, I promise you she knows exactly which button to hit when it comes to words she knows verbally. She knows what outside is and what it means when someone very clearly says outside. They certainly understand that if they want to go outside they go to the door so there's no reason you couldn't teach them to hit a button. When they're hungry or thirsty they go over to their bowl and paw at it, and typically understand either food or feed or dinner time or something of that nature. I promise you they are perfectly capable of associating those words they know verbally with hitting a button. No she probably doesn't understand the more human concepts but dogs are perfectly capable of understanding some degree of our language. They are more than smart enough to associate a certain button with a certain word that they already know. My dog knows exactly what walk or go outside or feed the dog means. He knows that when I say the word cat I'm talking about the cats he will go right over to them and look at me as soon as I say the word. He'll even go to a certain cat if I say that cat's name. He understands his name is Angel and has no problem responding to it and has great recall. He understands that when I say car he gets to go for a ride. He understands when I say treat that he's going to get a snack. He understands multiple commands like sit, lay down, wait, stay, and many others. Dogs are perfectly capable of understanding some degree of our language and being able to associate it with a certain button. You clearly have not been around enough dogs to understand that.

@@romeor1229 Sure, learning to press a button for food, treat or going outside is plausible, but stringing words to make sentences and talking about dreams and other abstract stuff is a hoax. I promise you dog has no idea and has no way of learning what even simple abstract words mean like 'what' or 'who', or associating things like a thorn in the paw with the word 'stranger'. Dogs can learn words by means of cause and effect, but anything beyond that is laughable and anyone who believes it is extremely gullible.

My confirmation bias is based on scientific evidence. And because of those differences in bias, we see two completely different things when we watch these videos.

@@KPassionate you can base your confirmation bias in anything you like, it’s still confirmation bias. There’s scientific evidence to suggest that dogs process language similarly to humans by using both the left and right side of the brain for meaning and intonation respectively. That was discovered within the last few years, so there’s room for more discoveries. After all, all science is is theory, and theories evolve.

@KPassionate thats.....not how confirmation bias works 🤦 You haven't adequately looked for things that disprove your beliefs. Until you do, you can't claim it's "based on scientific evidence"

@@KPassionateI think you’re getting tripped up on the fact that some people really think dogs can actually learn the word “hungry” or “outside” like a person would, and link the words to their own personal emotions. But most sane people understand that the dogs do it because it receives certain things when they push specific buttons. Even if the button didn’t say anything - they would still push it if it gave them a reward every time. This is a form of communication though, as you said yourself: 70-93% of human communication is non-verbal. Even though dogs don’t actually tie emotions to the sounds, they understand your reaction to them pushing a button. They are learning to communicate something they want with the action of pushing a button. As another commenter said, words do matter. It is possible to train your dog to be able to distinguish the difference between certain words, but the majority of people don’t have a dog that is trained that excessively. So it’s a bit unrealistic to assume your dog is doing anything other than distinguishing different tones when you speak. I don’t think this product is necessarily a scam like you claim - although they pander to those who want to believe their dog can effectively express an emotion. Regardless, I think it’s useful for people who want their dog to be able to communicate basic needs by pushing specific buttons.

​@@KPassionateYou are getting ratioed in every comment thread. 😂 You are unpopular and you channel is propped up by the algorithm.

The vast majority of people do not have a dog as extremely well trained as yours.

Assume much ??

Yes, well, German is a great language for that kind of thing…😆

@@KPassionate But it shows that it's possible and not as far fetched as you make it seem it is.

Exactly I trained mine the same They would sit quietly until given command Could even say Watch him. Dog wouldn't let the person move , till I gave proper command So much more they did So, they understood many words by their time to go. Now new one has his own thoughts all bad Like take important things and toss them in the toilet

Sounds like a real scientist as opposed to the bimbo in the video.

Notably. . Speech pathologist. Not a biologist. No professional training or education with nonhuman animals

@@ems4884 You can be knowledgeable about topics without having a formal education in them. It's unreasonable to say that a person doesn't have an understanding of a topic just because they didn't pursue a degree. Especially when it comes to topics as universal as animals.

@@ems4884enough with this nonsense. “Education” is information. You can get most information anywhere, and if it’s paywalled, that’s a societal issue not an education one.

@@ems4884language is language it’s not only a human thing. Math isn’t a human thing. There are human languages yes but language itself is t a human only phenomenon

Sorry. The evidence is clear. RU-vid videos are not evidence. And the Bunny thing is delusional nonsense quite frankly.

@@KPassionate but the evidence you’re going based off of happens to be RU-vid videos, right?

@@typicalboss9640 no. The studies are linked in the description as with all of my videos. Happy reading

Yes, they showed the one time that the dog put two words together that were slightly relevant. They didn’t show you the thousands of other times when the words were not related at all and were nonsense.

This just highlights to me how easily humans can be fooled into believing pretty much any irrational nonsense.

and it gives the dogs control too. she's talking about the dog "not forming sentences" well obviously because dogs don't have as much brain processing power as people, but the dog can still understand "cat" "play" and all these other things. seems like this scientist was using her own "denial bias" if you ask me, lmao

@@ziahplayspiano she doesn't want some company who sells the buttons profit from it, that's why. And I can understand her denial. For someone to be studying her field for a long time, she's too close-minded to try other ideas or approach. Points taken but I just don't understand why she seemed to be mocking and sounded really disrespectful to the owner of the dog that she's watching.

She's a close-minded technician. She doesn't have the mind and open-minded brain of a researcher.

There's actually two separate parts of the human brain for 1) understanding language, and 2) producing language. They're called the Wernicke's area and Broca's area. If one were to damage the Wernicke's area, they'd be able to make sentences themselves, but would have a hard time understanding what others are saying to them, and the opposite is true for the Broca's area. The idea here is that understanding and producing language are two different things, cognitively speaking. I'm not a biologist at all, but considering that dogs have evolved such a close relation to humans I wouldn't be surprised if they have a part of the brain capable of understanding human speech to a degree (not full on sentences, but making the association of some words with concepts as you describe), but it's unlikely that they would have the cognitive capacity to produce language as is alleged in these button talking videos. That took us a looooooong time to evolve

Then what exactly are the buttons for?

I saw a dog pressing "pain" and "ear" and it turned out there was an infection in the ear when they went to their vet

I think it's easy with basic things like hunger and pain. I was thinking about that same video and it was very impressive, but it could take decades for things to go further and the dog actually learns to formulate sentences. Maybe more than decades because, for example (and this is just me), I don't think they have an actual need to communicate. We did, and we do.

And how many times were those buttons pressed when there was nothing wrong?

@@justanotherchannel13 it's easy with pain? Really? That seems like one of the hardest buttons to me. How do you teach an animal what the "pain" button means? Do you inflict pain and then hit the button? Do you sit around waiting until you think the animal is experiencing pain and then hit the button? If you have a happy, healthy animal in a safe environment, that might take a lot of waiting. Feelings like "hunger" and "pain" are subjective; it takes humans years to develop understanding of these concepts before we can communicate them to others, and we evolved specialized brain regions to facilitate communication with other humans. It seems to me that the easiest buttons would be the one directly connected to objective reality, like a "walk" button, where the animal presses the button, and you take them on a walk, or a "treat" button, where the animal gets a treat for pressing the button, or an "affection" button, where the animal gets pet for pressing the button. Those kinds of buttons actually work.

@@talonward2494 Uhmm... I'm not gonna argue that, because I was talking about answering a practical need. Without a practical need we, as humans, wouldn't even have a language either. If it was a bad example, ok. My bad?

You are welcome to buy as many buttons as you like! But it is a waste of money and benefits these scammers.

It’s not a scam if the goal is communicate with your pet and the buttons assist with that, even if it is just plain skinner association. You keep saying you’ll believe there is something to these videos if actual research confirms it but then make comments like this that really scream of bias. If you can’t share an actually objective or even neutral perspective then maybe wait for the research to actually come out to make comments if you actually care about sharing accurate information. We simply don’t know enough at this point to make any conclusions about why these animals are interacting with these buttons.

@@kuraarachan the goal is to make money for the company by convincing people that the product works when they are fully aware that dogs cannot do what is advertised. That is a scam

@@kuraarachan Then go ahead and buy those buttons :) Lets see how you do

​@@KPassionateyou replied to a few other comments that said the same thing as this one with "I agree." Did something happen since that makes you think the buttons that play sounds are useless scams?

Well my approach is scientific, but the way science works is the need to prove something does work rather than that it doesn’t. There are many issues here, to name a few; the only company doing "research" is the company who sells the buttons which is an obvious conflict of interest. 2) the video makers will only put forward their successes and not their failures. It is very easy to write your own narrative in your own RU-vid videos. It’s an interesting idea but unfortunately is just not backed in science. I found an interesting article here neurosciencenews.com/animal-communication-18280/amp/

I'm not so sure about verbs and nouns, maybe from time to time they get what you might mean. But when it comes to feelings, emotions and simple words, my whole life among dogs is enough of a proof to me that they are able to understand these. Dogs can understand the emotions in your voice and behavior, as well as they can memorise meaning of the words. You can find a Border Collie online that is able to differentiate her toys by the name, she was supposed to know about 50 or 70 toy names I think, and once asked she brought exactly the toy you asked her for, what's more she was able to dig in the pile of toys to find exactly the the one you asked for.

Dogs have jobs? Service dogs maybe…

It really isn't scientific or analysis though. It's just her scrolling through videos erratically and giving her opinion on what's happening.

@@LS-ys8nr most dog breeds were bred for work of some variety. guard dog, herding dog, baby-sitter dog, fishing dog, etc etc.

Linguists? Could she also be evaluated by behaviorists?

@@stone7327 of course

The mass majority of animals use sound and body language to communicate. This is the future and skeptice will be just that

@@socal2909 Yeah. I was watching some birds, and one bird went to the grass and started pecking at it. Then it chirped and more birds came down. I walked closer and the bird gave out another chirp, maybe two in quick succession and they all flew away to the tree they were in previously. I've read scientists have recorded bird chirps and played them and got different results with different chirps they recorded. So they must have some sort of signal, if not full language.

The important part of your comment there is "to me, a non-scientist...". You admit that you have no idea what you're talking about as some kind of proof that you know what you're talking about.

I am also looking forward to the research!

They've been studying this stuff for decades. I think that after a certain point, no fully grown animal will come close to being self aware. I don't think their brain can adapt to that possibility once fully grown. However there may be some potential with apes/monkeys to get really close, but unless one is born with some mutation that makes it much more intelligent I don't believe it will come about naturally for hundreds of thousands of years. Have no fear, with the advancement of gene editing I'm sure some scientists somewhere are already working in editing the genes for intelligence in certain animals. I'd say in less than 100 years we will create a dog that is both self aware and can communicate with us with some computer assistance. We shouldn't do it, but we will.

@@adamgerald849what if we accidentally make animals self aware by trying to prompt them to learn at increasingly complex levels?

Dogs already know whats stranger without a button, for example when a person or an animal passes by house close, some dogs bark at strangers

I feel the same way about the word "now". How do you explain to a dog the concept of time. Now being the present , things in the past and future things to come seem a bit advanced to be able to sit down and explain to a dog with treats. 😂

The videos are each more ridiculous than the last. Painful. But thanks for commenting!

@@KPassionate why do you write like trump tweeting

@@elliot_rat you have discovered my true identity! 😂. Except Trump for sure believes in talking dog buttons.

​@@KPassionatebiden doesnt know what dogs are

That said, it’s a great point that if animals naturally communicate with body language, it’s a little inconsiderate of us to insist they learn a behavior to use our language rather than us change to understand them.

@@AngelProjekt I'm wondering if anyone is really saying that we should be ignoring body language and requiring buttons instead. I personally interpreted it as, there are limitations to any language, body language, or spoken/button language, and maybe one can fill in the deficits of another.

I'm convinced no one is studying the pets. I think the owners are being studied.

@@whelanmmw shld be. there's plenty other pet owners that can use a check-up from the neck up. 😼

Amen to that. Excellent point. Besides what is the harm and this could be very useful for handicapped owners amongst many other things I'm sure there are that is just the first that came to mind.

@@whelanmmwalso a good point!!!!

There were never any scientific experiments that supported that wild theory. Hopefully those that don’t understand what science is will catch up.

Can’t even do your make up right but you’re commenting about how a marine biologist doesn’t understand science. Disney adults are wild

@@codex2107 yeah her comment is bs.. but no need to get Personal though

Okay but there needs to be evidence first hon.

you are gross--->@@KPassionate

There has been lots of research on the topic. And it is proven time and time again. That is why I have "written it off". The science is clear. Feel free to read the links in the description and pinned comment.

The same way she's accusing the believers of confirmation bias, she's cherrypicking the segments that make the least sense. Both are probably going on and it needs a scientific study with a control, which in this case would be a dog taught that random things happen (sometimes treat, sometimes open door, sometimes nothing) when it hits a random button and the results would be generated randomly. Then see if observers can tell the dog that is definitely mashing random buttons from the one trained to use them meaningfully. If the observers pick the meaningful dog enough that it couldn't be by chance (let's say P-value .05) then there's something there.

​@@KPassionate you have written it off. Fine. But not all scientists have. Scientific "proof" is a myth. Old proof sometimes gets debunked by new, different or better research.

@@Aliandrin She has a few arguments, some of them good, some of them bad. She just switches between them however she likes. When pet owners improve their relation with their pet by buying buttons, then she calls the companies that make them scammers. When it is clear that the push of a button does coincide with a need of the pet, she arguments, "you just trained her to push the button to get something". And when she does admit that the button presses relate to current needs, she just moves the goal post to "well but these still aren't coherent sentences and that is required for communication". And when a pet forms somewhat meaningful sentences, well, then that was just "random button mashing" or "too much interpretation by the owner". There is no single coherent thought process in what she actually wanted to disprove in this video. Mostly just rolling her eyes instead of arguments, either way.

This is my question. Did this person do their evaluation based on only this ONE video? That hardly seems scientific to me. It's like walking outside when it's sunny, and assuming that means it never rains.

@@NikkiSoardesMail exactly, she thinks just because she went to school and spent time with seals, she knows more than everyone.

This whole experiment has to be repetitively done by someone in a certain setting. If you use some random stranger on the internet looking for views, you cannot sell those results as authentic especially since social media tends to be full narcissistic people. There are experiments with apes that learned i think a few hundred words, but no scientist yet has done anything close with dogs. And i say that as a person which is very sceptical about some science's

Imagine the hundreds, even thousands of hours of button presses that don't make it into videos because it's just random. If I slapped myself in the face all the time and you witnessed that, you would just think it's something I do for no reason. However, if you only saw me do it when a fly was on my face, you would think I was trying to swat the fly.

No. Because dogs are simple in their communication this new ager is trying to get paid....

yes yes yes! thank you

Go off sis

Animals even learn pictures And can learn many words This Scientist sucks eggs

My dogs and cats learned so much language No buttons needed Probably buttons would have worked ObiWantzCanolis is learning to identify every toy and action so far This woman is just ridiculous

i looked at the examples. You're wrong

Hahaha I literally have a shirt that says "salty soul”. Yes I hate pseudoscience. Drives me bonkers.

@@KPassionatecheck out @worldofantiquity

She is!

I thought it was just me who thought that

@@KPassionate yet this video is pseudo itself. You just watched some videos on your phone and half-assedly doled out a bunch of uninformed opinions and call it "science".

Bunny is not able to speak with buttons , it's random and vids are mostly fake cuz they are selling product that way

I don’t think this is a valid argument whatsoever. Look at dolphins. They are even more intelligent. I’m sure she has enough education under her belt to speak to this.

You sound just how you look. Smh

yes we should trust you over this lady

Idiots will make any leap to discredit what they can see with their own eyes regardless of the facts in front of them. I am willing to bet anything that you vote Democrat.

You've been watching this dog "progress" for over a year? Do you have other exciting activities, like watching your fingernails grow, or paint dry?

@@nicholdipoalo3429 As an artist, I do genuinely spend quite a bit of time watching paint dry. 🤷🏼‍♀️ And as a queer woman I can tell you my nails grow way too fast. Something like a centimeter a week probably. 😏 If you want I can send you all the facts and data sheets on the rate of the paint drying based on medium and thickness and the precise growth rate of my nails... Since it seems so important to you. Not many people take such an interest in my incredibly exciting hobbies. 🥲

@@nicholdipoalo3429 You act like the only thing she ever does with her day is watch Bunny's videos lmao. It's pretty normal to watch videos of a channel you follow. I've been watching Markiplier for years. Doesn't mean that's all I do with my time. What even is this logic? Lmao.

@@nicholdipoalo3429 TROLOOLOLOLOLOL

@@ashleeknowlton5805 Hilarious answer to a snarky comment. I like how you think! 💕🐝💕

To play devil’s advocate, these same people would argue that the sounds are what matter more than the words/language of words

And yet you can’t use them 😂

@@DuskLegend I don't understand the issue. Sound is what matters. Words have their phonetic signature (in any spoken language). That's how we learn most words: by hearing them in context. We don't start to read before 5 or 6 years old.

@@miks564 there is no issue, that’s why I said devil’s advocate

Because commands are specific words, dogs pick up your MOOD by the voice tone, not the command, otherwise it would just sit every time you speak in the tone in which you trained it to

You are correct, body language is not the same as verbal behavior (real language). Humans are actually very bad at reading body language which is why all the "body language experts" have been debunked.

You are being purposely stubborn at this point.., I am too, but there obviously WAY more it it that that. How can you even begin to make this leap in logic???? Like seriously, if you know anything about your own condition you wouldnt of said this at all. I feel like you just want to toss it out there as leverage in a conversation. Cus thats misinformation you are spreading bud!

@@werewoIf way to nitpick to a very unnecessary degree. Also, way to speak like someone that just herd about something that relates to the post. Rather Karen seeming of you.

You’re not a dog.

Yes, it definitely means that. But that doesn’t mean you absolutely can’t communicate with others is just harder for ppl to understand you and vis-à-vis, and that ppl have try and develop a different type of communication standard for you and ppl like yourself

I don’t think they can recognize more than the act of pressing a button. It doesn’t matter what the button says. They know it means attention. Perhaps if there is a button in different locations. But I think one button is the same as several to them. If that makes sense

@@KPassionate dont know if i get you right, but that would mean that all buttons have the same meaning. But billie the cat for example uses them very deliberate. Best example is "noise" when hearing noise in the apartment she would go to noise and sometimes "all done" afterwards. Her noise sensitivity seems to be quite high, her body language shows signs of anger (tail flipping, ears drawn back), immediate response to noise sound. the "all done" button also hints at deeper conceptional understanding, since she uses it in different ways like "quite what you are doing" or "it stopped" (like "ouch all done")

@@alisaforster28691 that’s not what I see on the cat videos. Also the people making the videos cherry pick clips that support their own narrative. Unfortunately there is no evidence that supports it.

@@KPassionate or you are cherrypicking bad examples because of normalcy bias

@@alisaforster28691 I just watched random videos 🤷‍♀️. Couldn’t actually find a good example that showed what they wanted 😂

I hope you learn to actually listen to the words other humans say to you. The animals aren’t communicating with human language. That’s the key point.

like she said, they’re more cues than actual words. the owner handpicked each word that associates with a cue the dog is used to.

I agree!

Not the hexagonal bs

My dog can use the outside button and the play button 😅

maybe the reason the dog is having an existential crisis is too many buttons!

Well, your opinion as a biologist will be responded to with ad hominem sarcasm to the backdrop of circus music. That’s what science really is.

@@TheAaronRodgersTaogo back to enlightenment seems it’s working mr tao

I missed when exactly "there might be confirmation bias" became equal logically to, "this thing definitely doesn't happen and is officially disproven and debunked."

The dog said it was mad because all the buttons were moved from the plywood, while showing all the body language of a happy dog looking for attention.

​@@johnschwalb Pet owners who use buttons to communicate don't have the full range of emotion wheel on the buttons. There are far more words that are synonymous to mad that doesn't necessarily elicit what we would consider the body language of just mad. Frustration, which is a more complex emotion than mad, wouldn't necessarily elicit mad body language; however the base emotion of frustration is mad. I'm not saying that Bunny's owner is in the clear. I've seen videos where I felt the video/buttons were manipulated. THAT is problematic. That said I've seen other videos where either cats or dogs were using buttons to express themselves, and the owners not only listened to the buttons but we're also looking at body language to better understand what their pet was saying in context. Jenn and Pharaby are a good example of this. It takes Jenn a while to sort out what Pharaby is saying sometimes because, again, there are only so many buttons. Imagine having, let's say, 60 words in another language. Basic words for needs, a few important things and people names, emotions, a few verbs (in present tense), and the word for later. That is your entire vocabulary in a foreign language that you realize will help you be better understood by the people around you. Add the extra complication that those people do not supply you with new words so that you can better express yourself. Your ability to clearly express yourself to them with words will be stunted. That's what these pets face. I have no issue that Bunny's owner referred to a pet being a learner because even while her pet is a dog, there are other types of pets using these buttons and she recognized that fact.

You are welcome!

I definitely never said dogs can’t communicate and certainly didn’t say they can’t understand words. In fact if you watch the video I say the exact opposite. I specifically say a few buttons with word associations could be useful. What I do say is that they cannot string together words to form complex sentences.

@@KPassionate If you study dogs the theory is they don't speak how we do in complete sentences you know what nevermind u are clueless and obviously never owned a dog

They don't need complete sentences any way Just understanding what their needs are and what their humans desire is Then the fun begins to make the match

@@KPassionate I don't know how complex sentences you're dubenking, but bunny can for sure string words together to: - make a compound noun "noisy bird" for plane - put subject/verb/object in sentence - use modifiers "big sound" "belly ouch" - add complements to atomic sentence (where and when action took place) - string subject, verb, object, place, time in a sentence. In no particular order and no strict syntax whatsoever i agree. But i think it's because the main goal of bunny owner is communicate, not experiment. Since owner will understand and perform with loose syntax, dog is not reinforced to use strict syntax. If owner insisted talking in strict syntax and only executing dog requests when posed in strict syntax, i'm sure bunny would use strict syntax as well.

@@ideegeniali no need to bother talking with the woman from the video. She isn’t a marine biologist or any kind of scientist. She’s a zoologist who trains dolphins at a knockoff sea world. I am absolutely certain she could decipher what you just said anyways. Classic 95IQ brainier.

Here, I think: Wouldn't it be easier if we try to develop a kanguage in a communication mide that is easily accessible to both cat/dog and human instead trying to get your cat/dog using human language? Coco the gorilla is an example for that: She seemed to be quite proficient in using sign language. Dogs and cats seem to be quite proficient in listening to human speech, but their most efficient way to communicate to us is body language. Could we make phonemes and words out of body language to buikd some kind of dog or cat sign language?

@@burkhardstackelberg1203 Koko wasn't actually proficient in sign language, there were a lot of flaws. But Bunny using the buttons is actually based on evidence based techniques of teaching language (such as to nonverbal kids).

Completely agree. Cherry picked clips. Goalpost moving of public assumption. All of that. But I am not sure what you need a phoneme keyboard for thoough? The buttons are simply little several second long voice recorders. If they wanted to re-record one to be the word plane they could. No software or raspberry pi needed.

@@burkhardstackelberg1203 We don't have the necessary scent glands or tails or flexibility (well I don't anyways) to essentially meet them halfway. They don't have the opposable thumbs or vocal chords. So unless you seriously want to do an interpretive dance for the bewilderment and amusement of your pets then these buttons are probably a more realistic option.

@@burkhardstackelberg1203 sign language is man made too, doesn't show any expression, just moving your hands. If my heats me scream her name, she comes, but if scream out something else she won't. Dogs understand human language and body language

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Stahhhppp 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️

So was I, and there was no encouragement from her owner, who was out of town at the time. Those clips of Bunny with her owner's parents are great. Everything is recorded on camera, so that while the "grandparents" often don't even hear Bunny, the viewer understands perfectly what she's saying.

‘Handful’ is a really bad sign. There is a handful of scientists that don’t believe in climate change

Who are the other handful of scientists tho?

Right and she is okay with the idea Bunny knows what outside means but doesn’t think she knows anything else. I don’t think bunny is putting together complete sentences and I agree that a majority of the time she’s probably just seeking attention, but it’s obvious she knows what at least some of the words mean.

And as dog trainer I can confidently say a smaller version of this button board could absolutely be a practical way for a dog to communicate their desires.

@@marinaljuboja3272 would be difficult for sure, because you’d 9/10 times need the dog to feel said pain to learn how to associate anything with it, but most certainly possible especially with dogs who have a chronic health issue

It's not unusual for an animal to associate an action with a result, such as pressing a specific button associated with going outside, or a toy or a treat. The real issue she seems to have with these videos is the stringing together of buttons to make more complex thoughts. The concern isn't even that it's impossible for an animal to do, but that this is being done in a non scientific way that allows for confirmation bias and other problems to affect the results and the interpretation of the results.

@@mandiboston8014 The 'concern' goes from 'can animals really talk to us?' to 'can animals have complex thoughts and make sentences?' to 'this wasn't done in a scientific way.'

Make it into smaller paragraphs. Didnt read

@@ModernLEGOreviews Don't be lazy. Jesus Christ. Have we really come to the point in time where people are unwilling to read a paragraph and a half? Pathetic.

@@mandiboston8014 you could say the same about anything. I ask a restaurant for food because im hungry and want food lol how is it any different we associated words with actions

Soooo you're saying any prompt will lead to you giving it attention. Not necessarily to fulfill a specific request. Right? The amt of people thinking their magic dog can think when they just replicated Pavlov's experiment is truly wild

No, it's not just a hit a button and get a reward type exchange. Although that does happen of course, it's much more than that. For example, after Moti, my dog, ate her meal I pressed the button HUNGRY and then GOOD and then the button ?. Some context for you: HUNGRY typically applies to anything food related so I was asking her "Was the food I just made good?". Moti's usual response to that question is either YES or GOOD or MORE. This time her response was HELP. When she pressed the HELP button I was very perplexed and confused so I responded by pressing HELP MOTI ?. She did not reply back and my slow brain was just staring at her while she started to scratch herself with her paw, wondering what on earth would she want help with. Then it came to me...duh, maybe she needs help with scratching. I didn't have a button for scratch so I verbally said MOTI DO YOU NEED HELP WITH SCRATCHES and then I pressed the ? button. She stopped scratching herself and walked over to the buttons and pressed YES. So I gave her a bunch of scratches all over her neck where I saw her scratching at. Then I pressed MORE HELP and ?. She walked over and pressed the NO button. So that whole conversation was just that, a conversation...and not a Pavlov situation. On top of that she ended the conversation with NO in which she gets nothing when she hits that button. She could have hit several other buttons in which she know that she might get something like treat, play, snuggles, etc but she chose to press NO because it applied to the topic and current situation. Dogs are highly intelligent and understand us much better than we understand them. It is because of our narrow understanding of them that limits our ability to see that. It's our own ignorance and judgement that holds us back from seeing their and other animals sentience and ability to communicate with us. @@timothykennedy2454

@timothykennedy2454 Here is another example that occurred on Jan 9th. I shared on social media right when it happened. I taught Moti to open and close the door to the patio. She often asks to have it open and after it's open for a while I am always telling her to go close it. She usually listens to me but not this particular time: "OMGoodness, this fur ball is full of too much sass! So I just asked Moti to go close the patio door and she pushes it almost closed. It's left open by a crack. She often does this either to keep it loose enough to open and close on her own or to keep a bit of fresh air flowing into the apartment. Still, it's letting the humidity in so I ask her to push it closed more. I end up asking her several times as she is ignoring me and running away to go play with her toy. In a more serious voice I say, "Moti, close the door! Go push!". She drops the toy from her mouth and runs over to the buttons and presses ALL DONE. In a high pitch tone I gasp loudly in response and then repeat "Go. Close. The door!". She stares at me. I try "I'll give you a treat...go close the door", in a sweet excited tone. Treats usually persuade her but she makes a resistant eye roll humph sound and then presses SNUGGLE. I burst out in a laugh. I just tried bribing her with a treat and now she's trying to bribe me or at least distract me from closing the door with a snuggle (I often press MAMA LOVE SNUGGLE when she jumps in my lap so she knows I'm a sucker for the cuddles). I say "Nooooo, no snuggle. Go close the door." She then walks over and presses BAD. 🤯 Y'all my brain is all over the place. I have raised a sassy back-talking stubborn pile of living fur, lol. And guess who ended up closing the freakin' door...it was not Moti 🙄. I caved. She is her own being after all."

@timothykennedy2454 here is another one that occurred Nov 2023 that I shared on social media: "So I asked Moti "Hungry" "Good" "?" with her buttons again. (We use "Hungry" to cover the same meaning as food or anything related). She replied by pressing "Hungry" "Love" "Training" "Mamma" "Yes". Wow, I was surprised that she pressed FIVE buttons and they totally relate. It always takes a little bit of translating since there are limited buttons to express herself with. I am sure that "Hungry Loves" means she loves the breakfast I made for her. And that she wanted more food, specifically the treats that we use when we do "Training" exercises. Lol, I guess she's a foodie just like her pet parent 😄😄😄"

@timothykennedy2454 Another example. My post from July 2023: "So my mind is 🤯. When Moti was about 6 months old I got her first 👉talk buttons👈. I followed the modeling techniques by Christina Hunger, speech pathologist, and the Fitzgerald Key for sentence structure. Being an open minded skeptic, my expectations were very low and limitless at the same time. Now she is a couple of months from turning 2 years old. I've had enough time and experiences to legitimately say that dogs are beyond aware and full of so much thoughts, feelings, desires and depth. More than the average joe realizes. We just need the correct eyes to see it. When given the chance, animals are capable of expressing these on our level. From now on, I think I will start sharing some of Moti's talk button interactions. She mostly uses them when she wants to express something complicated that she can't with her body language...or if she's bored...or if she's really excited...or if she's being demanding because I'm ignoring her body language. One of her last big interactions that I recall was when I had a cat friend over. Moti adores cats even though they don't reciprocate the same way. It's like she just wants to give them a big ole doggy hug. Well, she got sooo excited that she kept pressing the 💚 LOVE 💚 button over and over. So many times that it was beyond ridiculous. Definitely more than 20x! Usually if she presses LOVE she will say MAMA LOVE one time and then try to get me to take her outside to play. (Yep, she figured out quick how to use that card, lol) I always questioned that her understanding of the LOVE button was just her mirroring me when I would press LOVE MOTI. But this proved to me that her depth of that word is more than copy and repeat. 💕🐶💕"

you will never see a dog display body language indicating that its happy and then go to immediately attacking someone (in the vast majoirty of cases). you can see dogs instead nipping and jumping at you when theyre happy but thats not an actual attack

@@namaewasubarashii796 you just wrong as hell commenting nonsense huh 😂

Correct. Dogs wag their tail in non-happy situations as well. Naysayers, just google it. The fact the marine biologist in the video didn’t know that shows she’s unqualified to be assessing these Bunny videos. The real deal is Stella the dog, whose owner is a speech pathologist. Her videos are much clearer in differentiating between random button presses and true communication.

Biases definitely influence everyone. But mine is developed from scientific research and a knowledge of how evolution and animal brains work.

@@KPassionate Bull. You didn't conduct any actual research regarding this subject. You watched some videos and drew conclusions that fit your preconceived narrative. "I have a glass face that portrays how much I hate all of this." This attitude showed through many times throughout the video and really suggests you haven't given this subject a fair shot at objective analysis. You're guilty of the same thing you're accusing these people of. "I don't understand why we can't let dogs just be dogs. Dogs are amazing, and we don't need to teach them to be humans." Because consciousness is fascinating. It's a great opportunity to learn more about what a conscious experience is. And bridging the gap between humans and other animals really helps to tear down that anthropocentric ego we tend to carry around about ourselves. "But before you say that I'm the one with confirmation bias. Full disclosure, is that my pre-existing notion was that the dog would be much better at this, and we would actually be talking about the Clever Hans effect." The second sentence literally exposes your confirmation bias. You were prepared and expecting to prove this notion wrong before watching these videos. I'm not suggesting the claims of these dog owners are true. But I'm certainly not rampantly dismissing them without scientific rigor either. This should be investigated, because it could stand to teach us a lot more about animals and ourselves.

@@MatthewStauffer I am not sure why people think I need to be the one who has done the research in order for it to be valid. The research has been done. Of course I didn’t conduct it. Just as I did not conduct experiments on gravity but still recognize it as valid. There have been many dog cognition studies that show an amazing ability to recognize words after years of training. Even upwards of 1000 words! But never consistently stringing together several words to make sentences. Sorry the content isn’t your thing. Thanks for watching.

@@MatthewStauffer regardless of presentation, she made solid points about how the dogs are using the buttons more as a means of attention rather than in an actual effort to communicate complex sentences. The cat example and the button arrangement example are clear signs of confirmation bias because the falsifying evidence for the hypothesis “dogs can learn to communicate with language” is instead interpreted to back up the hypothesis. The poster of this channel is simply pointing this out.

The videos used as examples, I have seen better button videos that actually express a dialogue back and forth, even arguing. I definitely see the point that they have an obvious confirmation bias in these samples. But, not every video and every dog owner has ridiculous expectations. This is a small sample size. Comparatively, the research Google's algorithms serves me, indicates dogs can form complex communication concepts, that they are capable of stringing ideas together. And others, as this video points out, contradict that. Part of the problem is language itself, "Dogs can (or can't) form complex thoughts or string words together." What is complexity? Complexity doesn't have a universal bar. I would argue the truth is somewhere in the middle of what they can communicate and what they cannot, my hypothesis being that "Dogs can string one trained concept to a binary yes or no. And, of their trained concepts, they understand similar familiar concepts, such as 'play' or 'walk' being somewhat similar." And this may be at a toddler's level. So I can see buttons, "yes, play, walk" inferring from yes, a positive, "I want to," "play" (a category) "walk." That's not so much of a stretch, and the dog could just say "walk" without any other buttons. The "play" would be an emotion concept, communicating the dog is excited and the "yes," being kind of like how a toddler expresses things with the hope and authority that they are already imagining what they want coming true, even if you say no. It's manipulative to the human, knowing extra steps likely comes with more reward and thus an incentive. And it makes sense biologically, because as humans for so long have lived with these domesticated animals, they have developed instincts to get what they want from us; living with us has been their environment. I think micro-evolution has a play here, and has accelerated that process, as we breed them as far as physical characteristics but probably as far as instinctual characteristics too. That may not be as apparent with cats, but dogs are sociable, probably why they are so desirable, as we are social animals too. I know that this is a lot of speculation, but if you cut out the fat of everything I'm saying here, remember what my hypothesis is. The bar for what I define as "complex" is a lot lower than most people with buttons and as far as experiments go, not easy to observe or back-up, likewise to being proven true or false against existing research. It's more of a thought experiment. But if you approach the thought experiment, understanding that the way dog trainers train is through incentive, taking advantage of a dog's instinct and rewarding trained behavior, I think it is helpful in finding creative ways to train your dog and have a good relationship with them. The button thing doesn't carry over a lot of modern training; I think people use it as a replacement for formal training, and that is a problem. It could be used as an addition, but it would need to be simplified. My profession is programming and design (which is a different science), but with that perspective it occurs to me that teaching your dog binary, the concept of yes or no to use in addition to trained concepts would be the most effective approach if you want your dog to communicate with some level of complexity. So if I were doing buttons, I might do something simple, "Yes, No" in a separate group. If we combine a trained word to these binary concepts, we already have a problem. "Food" as an example, "yes food," "no food." These could mean the same thing. So consider yes, "I want" and no, "I don't want." Just as when you train a dog, you are saying the same with less words. If you confuse this when you are interpreting the dog's meaning, you have removed consistency from the equation due to confirmation bias. Removing confirmation bias is easier with consistency, easier by treating binary like binary. So, "no food" could mean, "I don't want food," not necessarily "I'm out of food." It would be a stretch to infer otherwise. Now to test this, try "yes treat," and "no treat." If the dog responds with "no treat," the experiment is broken and you should stop the experiment so seriously for the time being and evaluate the variables. Now when I say 'experiment,' I don't want to offend the scientific method. The purpose is to learn, not to prove a hypothesis. I think a lot of people think that experiments solely exist to prove something indefinitely. No, not at all. I think the buttons would be okay though if they were simpler in design, narrowed the variables to be just binary plus one concept of a few choices, and if the dog owner is realistic with expectations and the dog owner is trained well (with the existing standards of dog training), doesn't use buttons as a replacement for modern and standardized dog training and doesn't overwhelm their dog mentally, I can see the experiment being a good thing. It doesn't really matter if your dog can communicate with complexity. Your dog is complex, and your dog is smart. All of them are. They communicate with complexity already, and if you can't see that already, please go to dog training. It's more proven. The buttons are more like a game and an experiment rather than a tool to teach your dog. They are for teaching a dog that is already well-behaved. I think if there is any confirmation bias in the video, it's from the angle of someone that has a job in training animals and looking out for their well-being, sees how if you are using buttons to replace training, it could confuse your dog, and that could be a bad experiment for the health of your pet. This is true though; it's a good confirmation bias, knows the limits of when you should experiment. Someone in charge of animals without a want to protect their well-being would be a bad scientist, if it was part of their job function to be ethical. Without going too much deeper into what I mean on how confirmation bias can be a good thing, I'm just going to describe a scientist without any confirmation bias whatsoever pertaining to the quality of their work, as a mad scientist. Hopefully I've expressed enough, that you know I don't think in binary on this topic, as if there is a yes or no answer. And hopefully maybe at this point, I don't even have to say that when she made this video, she was not arguing that dogs aren't smart. So whoever got wildly out-of-pocket and judged her as a scientist, please "sit."

That particular video is definitely sensationalized. If you keep up with all the clips it makes more sense. The dog often uses “help” when it needs assistance, like if a ball gets stuck under the couch. Yeah there’s a level of confirmation bias, but it’s not her role to stay “skeptical.” Her role is build a relationship, and develop communicative patterns. In that sense, confirmation bias can be beneficial. That’s why the study bunny is a part of, involves third party participants analyzing their behavior. There’s a camera on the letter board at all times, directly fed to UC San Diego for analysis. Skepticism can actually be a hamper on studies like these. That’s why all previous animal communication studies fail grievously. It just doesn’t work in a lab setting. Overtime, the animal or scientist gets emotionally fatigued, and they hit a plateau. Either that… or the handler ends up getting pressured into jacking off the animal to maintain the study.. like the NASA dolphin communication study back in the 60s. 😬

I understood that bunny wanted help to become happy now.. that's why she said what makes you happy

@@ferial4091 Exactly. That's why her human responded with something like 'what would make you happy right now'. I felt like the girl in this video is so excited to prove her point that she skipped some of what was actually happening and being said.

Y’all are absolutely wild 😂. Thanks for watching

Jesus, just this computation of a ship and a dogs psychology shows your education and knowledge about how science works.

@@Xajane02 well my point is that the Biologist is stating that there is no 'scientific evidence' to back these claims of the talking buttons. And dog behaviour to her is considered a 'science'. Also ship thing is an analogy

@@Missraeraeruru why wouldn't a dog behavior be a science? Ans she's not saying that for her to believe it, it would have to go through a long scientific research. it's just how there's no proof in this videos that these dogs aren't just randomly pressing buttons.

@@Xajane02 call it whatever you like. And like I just said, some things just can't be explained or are yet to be explained by science. But the way she is smirking at the possibility that dogs can communicate in OTHER ways comes off as narrow-minded to me. There are SO many things in the past that are now proven by science today. You just never know

There are many ways to rationally defend the buttons, this comment isn't one of them

I do believe some dogs are quite intelligent. Our oldest daughter (who took the NADOI classes beginning at age 8) trained a Search and Rescue dog as a teen. That dog had a way of communicating quite well without buttons. For example, she would bring her plastic food crock to you and drop it at your feet when she wanted to eat. If ignored, she would pick up the dish again, and either try to shove it in your hand, or if seated, shove it in your lap, and then lay her head on your leg and stare pointedly at you. If further ignored, she would then start to apply very firm pressure downward to let us know "hey, hungry NOW". Not a button in sight, and she communicated things perfectly fine. This dog was also trained hundreds of logged hours, to a fairly high standard of training. Not sure if that would make a difference or not.

Exactly! My King Charles Spaniel is more clever / intuitive than some of my friends 😂

@@samharms6269 probably because dogs are far superior to most humans at reading human body language. Most humans are quite poor at that, and let's admit there are some humans who are pretty deficient at decoding SPOKEN language, much less written communication.

Yes, animals can learn to respond to a variety of human words. I never said otherwise. I work with a walrus who knows over 50 different cues. That is very different than what these talking pet videos claim to show.

Some people are like pets. They live rent-free, eat your food, leave a mess, when you're not at home, but your live would be less rich without them.

bells are limited to one stimulus association. Its not better. In fact if you do it wrong, a simple association trigger can do a lot more harm than good

@@nickmagrick7702 couldn't you have multiple bells that have different pitches depending on what the dog wants?

@@Yusa_Beach theoretically, whats your point?

@@nickmagrick7702 well I thought that sense they tend to recognize or remember the different pitches of the sound of a word makes, they would be able to communicate with having a set of bells which had different sounds that meant certain words. I don't think it would really work, but it was a thought I had

Disagree

The dog pushes buttons which it has been conditioned to do from being a puppy. The owner then makes those presses into a meaning, and makes the dog respond to her cues. I guess the owner deletes a whole load of videos that don't make the grade. Dogs can be extremely intelligent and can be taught to push a button for a walk or treat etc. but these conversation button videos are way over rated. I'd like to see an unedited 20 minute video, that would show how many buttons were randomly mashed or repeatedly pressed.

Then you're a complete and utter fool. Congrats, you're extremely gullible!

​@KPassionate BRUH you disagree because it's true, bunny is self aware and knows what bunny wants to do

​@@KPassionateBunny learns the buttons, bunny knows the bunny's, human bad, bunny good

Lmao... it's mind blowing.

it's so sad how desperate you people are to believe that your dogs can communicate with you lmao, it speaks to how starved you are of genuine human connection

@@djames1990 If most people are like you, then ʇıɥs, I couldn't be happier about being "starved of human connection" 😂😭

@@RyleeCoyote13 and some of us don't wanna connect with people who can't accept reality and lash out at anyone who challenges your idealistic fantasies lmao. so pathetic

This is LITERALLY the most closed minded and hard headed person you've ever seen? Really? It's just an analysis of what's actually happening, gives good information to back up her points. Good science is based on empirical evidence and looking at things from all angles, emotion needs to be kept out

Sorry to disagree with you! Thanks for watching.

Yes True. I felt like she is totally saying all this out of her biased. Time will prove that the buttons really work. Imagine after 10 years we will be laughing at this scientist just because she didn't accept the change in technology. Lile Nokia never accepted the Touch screen and android OS importance and now we laugh at Nokia. Buttons do actually work, we just need to add smell to them for dogs understandings.

@@waqarahmad-gx1vl someone will be laughing for sure!

@@KPassionate 😂

@@KPassionate maybe Dog or Cat can't never understand sentence. But they can understand simple word like their name, like sit, shake hand or eat. I believe this button is possible for communication and to teach the dog.

They learn to associate, sure but they don't understand the complexity and nuance of most words. I've seen some if these dogs with words in pretense, for example, like "did". If you think a dog has the complexity to understand a word like that and properly use it in a complete structure, we're gonna need a lot more evidence than basic association. At the most, dogs can learn that the phonetics of a word are associated with a certain extion or response, not necessarily the definition of the world, or how to use it outside of that one expectation

@@MarmadukeDormedius Most humans don’t understand the complexity and nuance of most words. They still know what they mean. What I know is that many animal behaviorists are blown away by canine cognition demonstrated in recent experiments. We’ve evolved with them after all, but it’s still surprising. Fortunately, much more data is coming in. The featured dog participates in a a worldwide scientific study to rule out coincidences and biases, etc. I’m looking forward to the results with an open mind.

She can’t form sentences. Sorry

Yeah not to mention the fact that this dog has been doing this since she was 6 months old. Time for dogs moves and feels a lot different than it does for us (in feeling, less in reality) so, that's like saying a human has been training for ballet since they were 6 years old and then this KPassionate lady saying that they didn't stop to think about it so, they aren't actually dancing ballet.

Yeah I confirm this. Soon the dog will sign a contract with a well recognized publisher for its first novel. Gtfoh!

​@@KPassionate care to explain your counter argument in a way that makes sense for this specific comment?

@@samalass466 what is there to counter? a person beleives the dog occasionally waits to talk, but the rest comes natural to her? that isnt an argument, it isnt even a syllogism.

I just picked a random video but yes it is content creation! I’ve talked about the splinter example that everyone loves to quote in other comments. But I do agree that communication is a good thing. I just think learning how your pets communicate is far more valuable than trying to ask them to do the impossible

@@KPassionate Agree with you there. And I have no doubt that a majority of people who buy the buttons will probably have unrealistic expectations. They are just a tool. It still takes a teacher who has that understanding in how your pets communicate to effectively train them to use the tool.

@@KPassionate Doing the impossible is clearly not quite an accurate statement. choosing a random video is maybe lowering the validity of your content. Why would you speak on something whilst weakening your evidence. It is true, an owner has to be skilled in doing just what you mention is better, understanding natural animal behavior, a well established must, in order to begin associating the animals behavior to them with the words. This is essentially not any different from giving an animal a command, the process is simply reversed. An animal understanding a command is already proof that they can learn language. Lastly, the syntax of this dogs sentences is limited to the buttons currently provided. If you are to judge at such a negative angle, it will serve your content to appreciate the evidence of the counter argument. Otherwise your enthusiastic negation is more insulting to the subject matter than illuminating.

@@godesway sorry. You have a misunderstanding of language. You can read more about the studies that have been done on this in my description.

@@KPassionate as a person who studies psychology thank you for putting this video out, trying to explain to people that animals simply don’t understand our language in terms of internal states, like yes they can associate walk with going outside or that car ride means get in the car or sit means sit. That does not mean a dog can say I’m mad at you or I’m unhappy. You don’t have to watch all of these dog button videos to understand the history of trying to teach animals to speak language like koko the gorilla.

We actually know a lot about animal psychology and the way they think. If the dog had touched the buttons "outside" and "help" you would have also thought he wanted help with a thorn stuck in his paw. My point being that any combination of buttons and we humans could have found a way to make it about the thorn stuck in the paw. Confirmation bias. Crows are an entirely different animal and not what I was discussing in the video.

@@suziepeaches321 😂

@@KPassionate We don't understand HUMAN psychology, let alone animal psychology. The "WE" you are talking about, are perhaps the ones you agree with, but not all psychology practitioners believe the same thing. That is Psychology 101. It is not scientific, because there are too many variables. Additionally, one can't even understand something like trauma, unless they have experienced it, it is impossible, and too complicated to qualify across the board. The same traumatic event will always impact the people involved is very different ways, so trying to prove a scientific certainty with psychology, is flawed from the get-go. How many years were we convinced animals didn't feel pain, or equally profane BS. I used to work with Search and Rescue dogs, and some of the tasks they were asked to perform were extremely complicated, and more dogs wash out, then make it through the program, so even saying what dogs do and don't understand, can not be said with any reliability. The common thinking is that dogs can understand around 150 WORDS, so I don't know where you are getting your beliefs from. If I ask my dog "Do you want..." she will perk up and listen carefully, what I say afterwards, will bring about varying reactions, based on what I am saying next, but if the word is in her large vocabulary, she will know exactly what I am talking about. If I say "to the vet", it is not going to be the same as "to have a snack". So if she knows the word for PAW, she knows the word for PAW, if it took her 5 times to FIND the word PAW on a board, it doesn't just mean she is guessing, it could mean, she is trying to find the right button. I just think people are having a hard time with your absolute certainty about something you yourself, can not say with any scientific proof. If you want to debunk something, you have to evidence. Do your own study with a couple dogs that understand a minimum of 40 words, and show us how it is impossible.

@@KPassionate But if the dog had pressed "dad" and "poop", you would not have suspected that she had an issue with her paw. That's the entire point of language as a communicative tool, as you're aware. My interest was piqued in the first minute of the video by your confidence in attempting to discuss this subject, but unfortunately there was almost no relevant substance back it up. Besides, this phenomenon (and in fact this specific animal) has been the subject of research at the Comparitive Cognition Lab at UCSD for almost two years, as you surely must have known when you made this video less than 6 months ago.

i don't think she said they don't. everyone knows dogs can learn tons of commands like look at sheep herding. I think she more meant that words are only a small piece of what a dog understands. They understand that you mean to go to their bed no matter what tone you use but they probably can also interpret your tone on top of that.

Yep! That’s what I say in this video. But what they can’t do is form sentence and language

The can absolutely form words. Seen my friends dog do it. Said “stomach hurt” Her dog was not eating. Ended up going to the vet and she had a blockage from the cob of a corn that she had taken out of the garbage. Tons of more examples. Seems like you just want to rely on old science. Or have something against dogs and don’t want to believe it’s possible.

@@KPassionate eventually they will.

@@KPassionate without any evidence to disprove this assertion you assume its an impossibility. You are failing the scientific method. Speaking of scoentific methods have u considered doing an iq test? That’s a scientific experiment we’d all like to see

make the sound of an O. Good! Now, make the sound of an E, Very good! Dont those sound different to you? Dont you see how its just a different sounds that can be easily symbolized by, oh lets say a ringing of a bell, or a press of a button? Also, if you do the reverse of what you said and start yelling angerly at your dog but saying nice things, or if you happily start calling them bad things, then the dog wont register the words like the normally would. My point is, that its not about them learning a language at all. Rather, just behaviors. Effect and cause.

watch billispeaks and you will know it is true

Jackson Galaxy is great! His cat video was amazing

Some studies point to dogs being able to understand and memorize more than 100 words. ...so, words can help a lot with one way communication. Buttons are an interesting experience, but dogs don't have them available all time anywhere, so other forms of communication are highly useful.

I mean yes. It's just an effective way to better communicate with them!

Wonderful intuitive creatures.

They pick up on your behaviour. My dog watches me roll a cigarette, if I put it down on the table and tie my hair back he assumes we are going out. I confirm his assumption with a "yes" and "lets get ready".

@@danceswithferrets Yes, dog can see what you are doing, but more than a visual image, they have the whole database of smells. You may suddenly smell different, or your heartbeat can increase a little bit, and dogs can smell that immediately. They reflect every tension in your body. They are something like a very sensitive device that will love you and keep you alive.

Thanks for watching!

But her behaviour is the exact opposite. If you believe ANYTHING in those bunny videos, I got bad news for you. You are stupid.

This is really interesting and aligns with a lot of the data I've seen recently. Specifically, how important eye contact is for human-canine communication as well as how some dogs will use mirrors as tools. Links to these studies/articles are in my pinned comment if you're interested. Thanks for sharing!

so awesome ❤

Yes my dog would do the same and take me to what she wanted and then move her eyes and head between me and whatever it was. The way I see it, the more time you spend communicating with your dog the more you will both understand each other, the buttons can help or even maybe expand your understanding of each other but I have never needed it, I have had great communication with all of my dogs, some of them even learned to spell certain words after we started spelling them out to avoid hyperactivity.

I don’t believe science has ever claimed that animals couldn’t feel things. Although people certainly thought so at one point.

@@KPassionate They most certainly did! They taught that in grade school in the late 60s.

@@BGr8ful4all I’d love to see the source on that.

@@KPassionate Sorry I didn’t keep my science books from grade school.

@@BGr8ful4all just because you were taught something in school doesn't mean it was accredited science. the teacher's own bias affects everything, as well as whoever wrote the textbook. textbooks are not infallible either - there are creationist "textbooks" that teach the earth is 6000 years old. That said, science is ever evolving, yes. We do know more about animal behaviour now than we did 60 years ago. It can be difficult for people to accept the new "changes" (nothing has actually changed, we just figured out how to better understand it). But a dog suggesting it's having an *existential crisis* because it hit the buttons "no tomorrow" in sequence (this was another of Bunny's recent videos) is somewhat ridiculous. the dog just as easily could have been saying they didn't want to do a thing tomorrow, or that they didn't want to do it now because it could be done tomorrow, or that the dog doesn't know the concept of tomorrow and accidentally stepped on that button. I do believe a few buttons could be trained and be useful, like "outside" and "treat" and "play" but like she said, we already have communication for those things, so why bother with expensive buttons unless it's just for views/likes on social media? It definitely would be nice to know when something is hurting them, but how do you train for the word "pain" without causing it?

The clips they string together are tough to watch to say the least

I agree!

Yeah my comment section is wild 😂

Glad it was helpful!

I think her best point is her last one. That dogs do communicate but buttons are not the best way to get them to tell you want they want or mean. they probably would do much better showing you what they want rather than standing by a button because even that concept of displaying meaning while never changing body language or leaving one spot is probably VERY foreign to dogs who never evolved to be able to understand that concept. Like how she said if bunny wanted to find the cat the most direct communication would be to go look for the cat. not stand and press random buttons. xD

I think for us to believe this is real, an edited video will not work. Someone would have to physically go to the house, do something and then look at the dog’s response and if they are able to communicate what just happened. Only then can we say it’s true. We can’t just believe everything we see. It needs to be properly repeated before we can. So since there is not enough data then we can say lack of data shows it is not true.

@bookbag6432 this is the burden of proof! Yes completely agree.

I have heard this! Stay tuned for another video about the cat soon!