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Can Two Roadies Beat One Time Trial Bike? 

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Is riding with another cyclist faster than riding a time trial bike? In this video, Hank and Conor team up to take on Si on his new Orbea Ordu TT bike to see which is faster in a head to head race!
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@gcn
@gcn 4 года назад
Shall we try 3 riders vs a TT bike next? 🤔
@AndreAlforque
@AndreAlforque 4 года назад
Keep going until the breakaway fails. "Shut up legs!"
@kedarkulkarni3030
@kedarkulkarni3030 4 года назад
Yes
@kedarkulkarni3030
@kedarkulkarni3030 4 года назад
Also,as recent as 2011, well its pretty recent in cycling history 😂
@CoachShrugs
@CoachShrugs 4 года назад
No, you should have made Si one of the two duo riders to have that control factor.
@colinb8327
@colinb8327 4 года назад
Nah how about three GCN riders against one GTN rider, over an Ironman bike leg.....🤔 With everyone on TT bikes, the GTN rider would have the advantage of being more accustomed to riding both the distance and being in the aero position, but the GCN riders have the advantage of being pure cyclists........ Could be interesting as both have advantages and weaknesses
@lesflynn4455
@lesflynn4455 4 года назад
I'm like 30 seconds in and I'm laughing at the idea of Conor sheltering behind Hank.
@finishstrongcycling2355
@finishstrongcycling2355 4 года назад
Hank and Connor should have employed invisible Aero bars in their riding style. Maybe it would have helped.
@danieldillon268
@danieldillon268 4 года назад
Was literally thinking the same thing
@sbdstudent
@sbdstudent 4 года назад
Conor: What is all that noise? Wind: It's me.
@jimcappa6815
@jimcappa6815 4 года назад
I was thinking the same thing!
@galenkehler
@galenkehler 4 года назад
Hank can't shelter behind Conor either, all the air goes underneath
@cyclebicycle
@cyclebicycle 4 года назад
Best GCN Video in awhile! Enjoyed the screen chemistry of Connor, Hank and Simon! Brought out a real LOL. Thanks!
@saqibkhan90
@saqibkhan90 4 года назад
Really nice & funny video in a while. They should do more stuff like this
@HumaneNewt
@HumaneNewt 4 года назад
I agree, great video. Reminds me of old Top Gear!
@leewarburton7764
@leewarburton7764 4 года назад
Agreed - great vid!
@richardhaselwood9478
@richardhaselwood9478 4 года назад
I had no idea how much I'd been missing Si's Beep, beep, beep, beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep....
@VisualKIt.Studios
@VisualKIt.Studios 4 года назад
Gold
@GarryFam
@GarryFam 4 года назад
Siiiiiiiiiiimoooooooon
@anshiletv9016
@anshiletv9016 4 года назад
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@KandiKlover
@KandiKlover 3 года назад
Yes they need to do that more. I been doing it everytime I start my commute lmao
@shapeshifterboogie9853
@shapeshifterboogie9853 4 года назад
This now requires a GCN team time trial. Here are the teams, Ollie and Manon, Si and Dan, Hank and Conor
@Ystadcop
@Ystadcop 4 года назад
Not a bad idea at all. However, I think Nigel and George should take some part in proceedings.
@ian3791
@ian3791 4 года назад
Manon and Hank are clearly a dream team; put Ollie with Conor, as Ollie's a bit taller and can shelter Conor.
@MichaelWilliams-iv6dj
@MichaelWilliams-iv6dj 4 года назад
How about GTN vs GCN and have them do both TT and road bikes. You would be emphasizing the roadie bike handling and paceline skills vs the Tri riders having better positions and familiarity with riding a TT bike. My money would be on GTN on the Tri bikes and GCN on the road bikes.
@Ditypo
@Ditypo 4 года назад
Hm hank and Connor are a bit too strong together
@umTeacher01
@umTeacher01 4 года назад
I wonder how much mineral water you have in stock to convince Dan to do a time trial
@phildunn1983
@phildunn1983 4 года назад
"Just 360 watts"
@rickjohnson4887
@rickjohnson4887 4 года назад
@@samuelclaircote3976 13:40
@samuelclaircote3976
@samuelclaircote3976 4 года назад
@@rickjohnson4887 Oh! My mistake! Sorry for misunderstanding.
@phildunn1983
@phildunn1983 4 года назад
Puts them at just under a 22 min 10 mile/16km time trial. Not blistering but still pretty quick. Si was closer to 20 mins.
@julienbaude7245
@julienbaude7245 4 года назад
@@samuelclaircote3976 It's actually 13min
@John...44...
@John...44... 4 года назад
@@samuelclaircote3976 lol did you watch that and really think they averaged 12mph? Looked a tad quicker then 12 lol
@tomrachellesfirstdance7843
@tomrachellesfirstdance7843 4 года назад
More videos like these more like the old gcn videos keep them coming. That TT bike looks amazing I would feel nervous rising a TT bike on a public road. Si is still a beast though 👍
@Vii_DT
@Vii_DT 4 года назад
All 3 dislikes as of time of commenting were given by Ollie Bridgewood, Ollie Bridgewood, and Ollie Bridgewood.
@CowneloAlvaroid
@CowneloAlvaroid 4 года назад
They took that man's KOM😄😅😂😂
@anshiletv9016
@anshiletv9016 4 года назад
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@PaulsDragonBanjo
@PaulsDragonBanjo 4 года назад
Si’s face when the time was revealed was priceless.
@GreatJoey91
@GreatJoey91 4 года назад
Hank's reaction says it all 😂
@iandonut6323
@iandonut6323 4 года назад
@@GreatJoey91 when simon started to laugh, hank knew that he had lost ;-))
@stevendeckert6373
@stevendeckert6373 4 года назад
Thumbs up for Si's suffering. His position is not even ultra-refined either. But 360 for 13 mins is solid power on the TT bike.
@benjaminc.franke7653
@benjaminc.franke7653 4 года назад
Just imagine Si's time if he hadn't taken the Snickers weight penalty...
@averageroadie6487
@averageroadie6487 4 года назад
Or if he had the high socks the UCI is so concerned with.
@julz19
@julz19 4 года назад
Or not having the 9 year gap of riding a tt bike
@vssleadership304
@vssleadership304 3 года назад
or consumed the Snicker bar prior... an extra 500cal to burn!
@yeff1127
@yeff1127 4 года назад
3 grown men, probably, having the best times of their life
@anshiletv9016
@anshiletv9016 4 года назад
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@shashanksastry6872
@shashanksastry6872 4 года назад
Bruh Conor is riding such a large frame that he looks like he is riding a totally different bike compared to Hank...
@sibienf686
@sibienf686 4 года назад
That’s the largest frame I’ve ever seen.
@jamesdahl6756
@jamesdahl6756 4 года назад
He’s 6 feet 29 inches. In metric that is one giraffe tall.
@anshiletv9016
@anshiletv9016 4 года назад
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@rotwart
@rotwart 4 года назад
He literally is riding a totally different bike, fool.
@wargey3431
@wargey3431 4 года назад
James Dahl so what 8ft 5inch
@timw8926
@timw8926 4 года назад
When following Si on Strava spoilers the video - Sick effort by all three!
@ChristianBorrman
@ChristianBorrman 4 года назад
spillage at kom zone lol
@donball370
@donball370 4 года назад
The Si-borg still has it; he'll be grinning on this one for a while. Ah, the competitor streak runs strong in you Si. Well done mate
@Dabbtrabb
@Dabbtrabb 4 года назад
always loved these GCN challenges. Challenge suggestion: GCN presenter relay (two teams). 1 round road, 1 round TT, final round gravel/cross.
@malalark
@malalark 4 года назад
This episode deserves its own The Breakaway Episode.. Bradley Wiggins sharing his knowledge of time trials, Brian Smith on the big screen analyzing the teamwork of Hank and Connor, Bernie interviewing Si at the end of the race, and Orla interviewing the owner of the Giro Helmet that Si got from GCN HQ.
@donnalimburg9435
@donnalimburg9435 4 года назад
The perfect trifecta of GCN presenters! This video was brilliant in every way!!
@gcn
@gcn 4 года назад
Thanks, Donna!
@TheUltimateULTRA
@TheUltimateULTRA 4 года назад
poor connor not only had to ride harder on the front than hank as he’s bigger but also then couldn’t draft him as his whole upper body broke wind
@colinb8327
@colinb8327 4 года назад
Scary thought being behind a rider as big as Connor as his whole upper body breaks wind (think about it.... 😆)
@TheUltimateULTRA
@TheUltimateULTRA 4 года назад
Colin B that’s a big concern too😂
@888johnmac
@888johnmac 4 года назад
ha ha .. breaking wind .. ha ha ( sorry schoolboy humour )
@Kimberly_Sparkles
@Kimberly_Sparkles 4 года назад
My mom taught 5th grade. She says that men never really outgrow the discovery of the magic of farting as a joke. She said this while giggling. She was really popular with 5th grade boys. She has some real stinkers to share.
@colinb8327
@colinb8327 4 года назад
Kimberly Sparkles it’s schoolboy (excuse the sexist term), humour. You are right, we never grow up, put simply, it’s a release from stress and having to always be grown up. Tell me you’ve never had a secret boogie to a radio track , or done a mildly inappropriate happy celebration, somewhere inappropriate when you thought no one was watching and you were in a great mood because everything was going so right. I know I have. Same thing, it’s just a tension breaker, just with fart humour.
@iwearflansuit
@iwearflansuit 4 года назад
"who needs friends when you have every aerodynamic device known to humanity?"
@lautonsutley3760
@lautonsutley3760 4 года назад
Si says he has “no one to let him down,” seemingly forgetting about himself
@tychoMX
@tychoMX 4 года назад
But he didn't! Even though he thought he would!
@pwittouck8707
@pwittouck8707 4 года назад
Yes! This content is so awesome! Like the content you produced four years ago!!! More like this
@DAlexKablack
@DAlexKablack 4 года назад
Nothing better than starting the morning with a GCN vid
@scubavinnie
@scubavinnie 4 года назад
Triathletes everywhere just sat up and pulled up their socks-- oh wait.
@oliviant2235
@oliviant2235 4 года назад
James and Connor look like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny Devito characters in the movie “Twins” 😃
@eagleironic5815
@eagleironic5815 4 года назад
I had not realised how tall Connor was, he’s so HUGE! Fantastic video too :). Please GCN do a team TT against GTN!
@tesmith47
@tesmith47 4 года назад
Not huge, just tall
@darrenmiller6129
@darrenmiller6129 4 года назад
Really good watch that one. Loved the result reveal and shock. That is quite some time difference. As others have said, more content like this please.
@Alan_Hans__
@Alan_Hans__ 4 года назад
I always predicted the TT position would win. On another note I reckon Hank and Conor should have been doing slightly longer efforts as with the short efforts there is more time spent side by side where they are both getting no benefit of drafting.
@armadillito
@armadillito 4 года назад
It's an interesting optimisation question
@luca3976
@luca3976 4 года назад
How do you know how long their efforts have been?
@Alan_Hans__
@Alan_Hans__ 4 года назад
@@luca3976 . They mention it during the video.
@glenndaly3975
@glenndaly3975 4 года назад
I think if they had trained together to achieve smoother through and off and work on positioning behind the lead rider it definitely would have been slightly the other way... Yes let's see 3 against one
@michaelmechex
@michaelmechex 4 года назад
This is the quality content I come here for. Congrats Si! That was amazing effort by all of them!
@prestachuck2867
@prestachuck2867 4 года назад
Not the result that I expected, but then Conor and James-Hank didn’t appear to have ridden very well together. It looks as if Hank kept dropping Conor which forced him to have dig deeper to get back up to the wheel each time Hank pulled through. That would have very quickly slowed their overall pace as Conor became progressively tired and therefore slower each time he had to pull.
@freakdog
@freakdog 4 года назад
Not if you're up against Pogacar 😂
@LarsRR
@LarsRR 4 года назад
Freak Dog or two riders from the old sky train.
@Ara1rider1
@Ara1rider1 4 года назад
Next challenge: lets take 3 riders vs 1 tt rider
@06cdancer
@06cdancer 4 года назад
TT bike will still win because it’s literally an advert for a new TT bike
@martinraucher2147
@martinraucher2147 4 года назад
​@@06cdancer didn't notice...
@carlbaker5880
@carlbaker5880 4 года назад
06cdancer and the distance wasn’t far enough for so to be blowing completely
@joelguerin-simard3415
@joelguerin-simard3415 4 года назад
Thanks for lowkey spoiling the result !
@anshiletv9016
@anshiletv9016 4 года назад
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@goommenter
@goommenter 4 года назад
GCN: ... have you ever wondered... Me: No. GCN: Well, we have too.
@Tim9666
@Tim9666 4 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@benjamindaniels6642
@benjamindaniels6642 4 года назад
Today's GCN video is brought to you by James and The Giant beanstalk.
@clintnieves
@clintnieves 4 года назад
I love this kind of video. Reminds me of the good days of Top Gear. So does that make Si as Clarkson and Conor as May, and James is Hammond. Doc Ollie is definitely coming after to regain that KOM. More please.
@Songbirdstress
@Songbirdstress 4 года назад
Top Ring lol
@finishstrongcycling2355
@finishstrongcycling2355 4 года назад
Ollie just needs to pull out a recumbent and one up Si.
@hutchmusician
@hutchmusician 4 года назад
Best video for a good while. There’s no way Si kept that snack on the bike the whole time though. It must weigh 30g.
@mugambiivan229
@mugambiivan229 4 года назад
That was awesooommmmeeeee. I wasn't quite sure which team to side with at the beginning. Aerodynamics over wattage.
@ebigarella
@ebigarella 4 года назад
I paused at "just 360 Watts" to cry
@alblackman7985
@alblackman7985 4 года назад
Si “this is my aero dance!” Brilliant
@hedleykerr3564
@hedleykerr3564 4 года назад
Saw something like this in a way today at the Giro Stage 8 with Alex Dowsett, Congrats!
@Tim9666
@Tim9666 4 года назад
This was actually super thrilling to watch, I was so sure 2 rides would be faster. And I mean.. Hanks riding position is not exactly "not aero" 😄
@hunbad_the_bad
@hunbad_the_bad 4 года назад
Si throwing his celebration trophy on the floor after being so happy wanting to share it was really sad. I hope you enjoyed it, well deserved! Cracking vid for everything else in it though :D
@LifoGifo
@LifoGifo 4 года назад
My god that TT bike is beautiful.
@06cdancer
@06cdancer 4 года назад
Disc brakes aside
@steveallan5761
@steveallan5761 3 года назад
Very cool. I did not expect that result at all. Now I would like to see a head to head test of a typical old school TT bike from 10 years ago, vs that new tech monster Orbea.
@tonycrabtree3416
@tonycrabtree3416 4 года назад
"I was doing 400 watts just holding your wheel" Well, yeah, no draft...LOL!
@ssstevo2002
@ssstevo2002 4 года назад
I am American and an avid GCN fan! You guys and gals are amazing and I love you all! Your tips and advice are truly helpful and you are an inspiration to cyclists like me. Thank you so much for your experience and insight. Today is October 10, 2020. I am 55 today and fit. My Birthday by coincidence. I would love to somehow be a part of your team.
@robflel
@robflel 4 года назад
I’m increasingly amazed by aero, the boys were absolutely going for it and were nowhere near! Might need to save up for an tt bike, might be able to buy one in 10 years time.
@EdouardTavinor
@EdouardTavinor 4 года назад
They're about half as fast as a Milan and a lot more expensive.
@joerossa1112
@joerossa1112 4 года назад
Wow! With drafting properties in place, Connor’s TT capabilities and Hank being wicked fast I was not expecting that result. What cool video. Aero is king.
@cdamian
@cdamian 4 года назад
I think Alex Dowsett just proved that one time trialist on a normal bike can beat five (and later two) guys working together on similar bikes.
@danielmagana5125
@danielmagana5125 4 года назад
Nicely done I do have a FELT IA16 2018 and I love it It’s pure power Cheers from NYC
@isaackangas6921
@isaackangas6921 4 года назад
Ah shoot, when I saw the thumbnail I thought this was going to be a video about you guys riding a tandem bike vs a tt bike and I got so excited
@bb0911
@bb0911 4 года назад
Love the chemistry between the presenters in this video! Si's taking of the KOM off Ollie also got a laugh out of me XD
@ricellis6380
@ricellis6380 4 года назад
I’d love to see these longer like the grand tour but with bikes instead.
@rollingbalegar7341
@rollingbalegar7341 4 года назад
With Matt...
@anotheryoutuber_
@anotheryoutuber_ 4 года назад
they must build their own bikes with second hand components all totaling less than 1000 gbp then ride 200 km race, losers donate their bikes to a local bike club to get new riders into the sport.
@alexalvesjr
@alexalvesjr 4 года назад
Thanks guys!!!! Always fun watching you.
@KOMHuntTV
@KOMHuntTV 4 года назад
11:36 My heart sank when the Duo hit the floor! 😳😢
@aaronweigerber5313
@aaronweigerber5313 4 года назад
I had Si's back from the beginning! When you only have 10k to go you don't need that much recovery... But strong efforts from everyone!💪👍
@finishstrongcycling2355
@finishstrongcycling2355 4 года назад
I saw one man on a recumbent take on a whole peloton in an open event. Aero is definitely King.
@favorites673
@favorites673 4 года назад
Finish Strong Cycling until you get to the hill.
@finishstrongcycling2355
@finishstrongcycling2355 4 года назад
@@favorites673 Agreed
@tammystringer4044
@tammystringer4044 4 года назад
Well done. Love the banter! I’m sure Si will work this victory into many future show segments!
@dominicjames4848
@dominicjames4848 4 года назад
Does Conor actually get any draft at all following Hank?!
@bmdonlin
@bmdonlin 4 года назад
He only gets a draft following a bus.
@jwfriar
@jwfriar 4 года назад
Have they done anything on drafting with different sized riders. Personally I don’t notice a huge difference when drafting big vs small guys...maybe the deflection of the wind means even a small guy puts out a big pocket of clean air
@philipk4475
@philipk4475 4 года назад
@@jwfriar My friend and I compared this. I'm over 190, he's like 170. We did a 5 minute strava segment and when he was behind me he was in Z2. When I was behind him I was still above threshold. On the flat we have a similar strength
@jwfriar
@jwfriar 4 года назад
philip k Yeah - I wonder too if it’s shape as well as weight. I have a buddy with super broad shoulders and I suspect he’s just not aero at all, but prob gives me a better draft than a more narrow shouldered person.
@evanr1940
@evanr1940 4 года назад
I am 6'6". I have no idea whether Zwift is realistic or not, but I never notice any draft effect when I'm outside riding with people. I admit I don't get much of it in zwift either since people just pass me not giving me a chance to draft :)
@larrytanzo4761
@larrytanzo4761 4 года назад
This is a great episode! Excellent work Simon! I recently acquired a TT bike and I am smashing a lot of the local KOMs 👌🏻Thanks for another great show!
@stevep9041
@stevep9041 4 года назад
Whenever I pass someone on a time trial bike I always give them a wide girth so I don’t upset their aerodynamic advantage.
@peterneal7724
@peterneal7724 4 года назад
I think you mean berth
@WHAT_1400
@WHAT_1400 4 года назад
@@peterneal7724 i get right up their arses personally
@TheMASDrummer
@TheMASDrummer 4 года назад
Interesting choice of words
@stevep9041
@stevep9041 4 года назад
Peter Neal and this is why I cycle on my own, because of cyclists with ADHD. It was a typo!
@timmy1071
@timmy1071 4 года назад
How could it be a typo? "i" and "e" are nowhere near each other on the keyboard
@truk64
@truk64 4 года назад
Terrific! Awesome video! Surprising results! Looks like you guys were having a blast! Great viewing!
@georgelee5299
@georgelee5299 4 года назад
Love the vids guys, always so well made👍🏼🇳🇿👍🏼
@Starchitect_UK
@Starchitect_UK 4 года назад
This is like Top Gear for Cycling enthusiasts - brilliant video, I loved the balance of bravado banter vs technical review.
@DominicBurford
@DominicBurford 4 года назад
Maybe do this with two roadies who are more closely matched in stature so they actually benefit from drafting. This may change the results more in favour to the roadies.
@hisdadjames4876
@hisdadjames4876 4 года назад
You guys made that a lot of fun. Thanks. Amazed by result, too. Instructive!
@colinb8327
@colinb8327 4 года назад
Would have been even more interesting to have stuck someone used to riding aero on the TT bike. Shame you couldn’t have talked one of the GTN team into it - or were you scared to? 😉
@MrAyley7
@MrAyley7 4 года назад
I would love to see this team time trials GCN vs. GTN
@gcn
@gcn 4 года назад
That was the plan, but they were a bit busy, unfortunately!
@andrebonilha7254
@andrebonilha7254 4 года назад
Well if Sy already beats you guys, Mark woul hace made even more damage 🤣 maybe with 3 riders
@colinb8327
@colinb8327 4 года назад
André Bonilha lol I was thinking less beating GTN more humiliating, but was hoping that GCN would take the bait for some fun.
@TheUltimateULTRA
@TheUltimateULTRA 4 года назад
25miles of straight road. 4of GCN’s best vs 1TT PRO
@vashe9
@vashe9 3 года назад
Omg I discovered this channel because of "GCN en français" this video is great, I always wondered if all that aerodynamic was really helping
@MrBJPitt
@MrBJPitt 4 года назад
The result was expected. But what I'd like to know - How much fitness has Conor lost in a year? Last year he was holding 440 watts easily for "how long can you hold world hour record pace". This was only a 10km effort, could he hold 440watts for this?
@PaulGM
@PaulGM 4 года назад
Probably the best GCN video I’ve seen in a long, long time. Chapeau chaps 👏👏👏
@939Productions
@939Productions 4 года назад
Conner: I did a top ten in a TTT in the vuelta. Well aqua blue was 13th and Conner got dropped and finished 31 seconds down hahahahahahahahahaha
@conordunne219
@conordunne219 4 года назад
LOL !!! Haha I've been rumbled... memory definitely a little rosy of that day for some reason!
@boudoir00
@boudoir00 4 года назад
This is why I love GCN so much!!! Great video, super entertainment, and really interesting. Thank you!
@domedom2227
@domedom2227 4 года назад
You need to put them on a tandem!!
@krisberntzen
@krisberntzen 4 года назад
A tandem TT bike (or would that technically be a TTT bike?) would be awesome
@ivigri9170
@ivigri9170 4 года назад
great video guys! you are one of the few things I can watch that bring real joy in this gloomy year :)
@bpperk
@bpperk 4 года назад
Aero optimized Si is ... well ... still Si.
@whatwelearned
@whatwelearned 4 года назад
Perhaps you should challenge him
@jaspreetsidhu5708
@jaspreetsidhu5708 4 года назад
Si has a high ftp even though he's a light guy. If anything he was probably riding close to 40+km/h
@ChristianBorrman
@ChristianBorrman 4 года назад
Si for the win ;)
@finallyonethatworks
@finallyonethatworks 4 года назад
@@jaspreetsidhu5708 I worked it out to average 45 km/h giver or take
@petinka721
@petinka721 3 года назад
So great serie! I sure that will be on top in end of 2021!
@sventice
@sventice 4 года назад
10km isn't very far. Over a longer distance, I'm guessing the results would be quite different.
@trepidati0n533
@trepidati0n533 4 года назад
Yep..the TT would be even further ahead. Aero is just so powerful when speed starts getting high. At high speeds you need a cubic more power vs linear for aero for the same speed increase. It is bonkers.
@sombratt
@sombratt 4 года назад
Same result
@sventice
@sventice 4 года назад
@@trepidati0n533 I'm not so sure. Over longer distances, the lone TT rider is going to get tired. There's a good reason the peloton exists.
@trepidati0n533
@trepidati0n533 4 года назад
@@sventice From a point of view possibly...but the peloton exist so the tip of the spear has the energy to finish first...the rest of group is left to die at the end. So if you go full kipchoge....maybe....but I think stacking the deck that hard to carve out an exception isn't fair. I mean if you are going to get a full peloton to beat one TT then what could two TT's do against a peloton of cyclists to be even remotely fair?
@kateshephard4920
@kateshephard4920 4 года назад
Ah I loved this, back to good old GCN days. Thanks for making me smile
@chrisfanning5842
@chrisfanning5842 4 года назад
Impressive as hell, but how much does aero help for mere mortals like me who struggle to hold 250W for more than about five minutes? I'd love to see you guys run another vid like this but perhaps trying to stick to average power levels like, say, the sustained ~200W of your amateur or CAT5 racer.
@paperwind
@paperwind 4 года назад
My physics calculator says at 200 watts over a pan flat 40k with no wind, you'd save roughly 10~15 minutes between an extremely dialed TT fit and a very draggy road bike. You can do a 40k TT in just about an hour on 200 watts on that kind of course, maybe even quicker on an indoor track. Less powerful riders actually save more time over the same distance than more powerful riders, counter-intuitive as it may seem.
@gillesbkf4315
@gillesbkf4315 4 года назад
@@paperwind The drag increases by the square of the speed but the drag is proportional to aero coefficient and cross section. So if you are more powerful, you will be on the higher end speeds, where drag is dictated by speed^2, reducing a little bit the aero coefficient will allow you to gain a little bit more speed, but 2kph more when you’re already at 50 is a big difference, no matter the aero coefficient. But for a 200w rider as you say, the same aero bike would boost him from 35 to 38 kph. 52^2 -50^2 = 204 38^2-35^2 = 219 That means that (the effort you need to add or) the drag you need to reduce is somewhat the same if you want to go from 35 avg to 38 avg compared to 50 avg to 52 avg. +3 kph for a 35 kph rider is +8,5% speed +2 kph for a 50 kph rider is +4% speed It’s literally twice as effective !
@myklonsip
@myklonsip 4 года назад
Chris Fanning Easy to do. Ask dan to ride
@simonr7097
@simonr7097 4 года назад
Time saved over a given distance tends to be a good indicator of aero savings, as it remains almost constant regardless of you power output. Incidentally I just tried short aero bars on my road bike today. I'll have to work on the position, but being able to reach and sometimes exceed a cruising speed of 40km/h on the flat is a nice feeling!
@taufikabidin412
@taufikabidin412 4 года назад
Get a racing recumbent like Cruzbike V20, Bachetta CA3, Pelso Brevet, Schlitter Freestyle, M5 CHR, Carbent, Morciglio M1, etc and watch how fast you become. bonus if you go straight to fast velomobiles like Alpha7, Milan, DF and smoke any pro on the flats
@andreg1860
@andreg1860 4 года назад
That was a really fun video! Grateful on the win and the KOM lol well deserved 👏
@DrewKime
@DrewKime 4 года назад
10:11 Happiest. Face. Ever.
@brettc4683
@brettc4683 4 года назад
I could so easily "waste" a whole day watching GCN videos. Very informative, and a whole lotta fun. The chemistry between all of the team is great. Keep up the great work guys.
@travismcgarry
@travismcgarry 4 года назад
Awesome.... aero Ollie done in by his own love for aero, she’s a cruel world 😉
@Kimberly_Sparkles
@Kimberly_Sparkles 4 года назад
It is fitting.
@anshiletv9016
@anshiletv9016 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7beck87cKLU.html
@1958vintage
@1958vintage 4 года назад
That was a great video, guys. Si looked super-smooth on the Ordu. I shall go and spend the winter training to ride like Si for next season!
@ThirteenHauntsMe
@ThirteenHauntsMe 4 года назад
GCN: Have you ever wondered if one rider on a TT bike can beat two riders on road bikes Me: No, but now you have my attention... 🧐
@veloman59
@veloman59 4 года назад
GCN please do more of these. Great fun, however, I think this confirms that aero wins every time..👍😁🚴
@DAlexKablack
@DAlexKablack 4 года назад
Conor looks like he's 9 feet tall
@alexapirot32
@alexapirot32 4 года назад
He is
@HIYAharry
@HIYAharry 4 года назад
He is
@prudenciomangaoangiii403
@prudenciomangaoangiii403 4 года назад
This is cursed
@prudenciomangaoangiii403
@prudenciomangaoangiii403 4 года назад
This is cursed
@rah4981
@rah4981 4 года назад
I would not want to get a seat behind him in the cinema.
@muhammadsega6532
@muhammadsega6532 3 года назад
I've been waiting for such video Thanks 💝
@SamBessalah
@SamBessalah 4 года назад
" Just 360 watts". You people are nuts.
@shoogur3920
@shoogur3920 4 года назад
Sam: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vCTy4S7x6js.html
@justinmare3033
@justinmare3033 4 года назад
Absolute banger of a video missed this kinda content 👍
@VuHoang-rj2yk
@VuHoang-rj2yk 4 года назад
Three riders - gotta have 3 races. They each take turn riding the TT bike while other two do roadie. 😁
@robinseeberg3715
@robinseeberg3715 4 года назад
Lovely video, lads. Just the right amount of nerdiness, homour and epic racing! Si, you can never leave GCN, you damn legend🤩
@flyingbuddy3918
@flyingbuddy3918 4 года назад
I never really understood why tt bikes have disk breaks
@mattd5136
@mattd5136 4 года назад
Much easier to route hydraulic lines 100% internally - those small round cables have a fair amount of drag. Plus you get all the braking power and performance you normally expect. Typical TT bike integrated mechanical stoppers are not very good so better brakes means more time in the tuck before braking harder and later without overcooking a corner. Theoretically since you no longer are crushing the rim with brake calipers, you could build a rim that doesn't need reinforcement there (tubbies only of course), thus making the wheel rims lighter. Honestly, with the versatility and performance of hydraulics I'm expecting to see a tt bike with an additional brake lever on the extensions any year now. Why bother getting out your tuck to brake when a two-fingertip button inside your extensions works almost as well?
@st939
@st939 4 года назад
Back to GCN roots, nice one.
@noahcannon8735
@noahcannon8735 4 года назад
Disappointed this didn't involve Hank and Conor riding a tandem...
@thetheflyinghawaiian
@thetheflyinghawaiian 4 года назад
Love this. Seeing the speedy Bois do their thing.
@tobortine
@tobortine 4 года назад
Slightly less pre-race coffee for Hank perhaps? His excitement rivals that of a spaniel puppy out for his favourite walk.
@lawrencewinter
@lawrencewinter 4 года назад
One of the best little edits from GCN of late - enjoyed this, well done lads.
@richshaffer7285
@richshaffer7285 4 года назад
Imagine if Mark from GTN, a proper tri bike rider, would have been on that bike instead of Si. Hank and Conor would have been crushed by even more.
@gadenhertog
@gadenhertog 4 года назад
Not sure for a shorter 13 min effort. I think Si is/would be faster.
@erictravis5995
@erictravis5995 4 года назад
Good point, Mark is also a beast on the bike and is likely more comfortable in an aero position. That said, Si looked pretty aero and 360W is nothing to shake a stick at!
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