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Can We Create Artificial Gravity? 

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Thanks for watching! I actually had an early version of this ready last week. Which you can watch here on my second channel:
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I decided, with the help of my Patreon supporters, that it wasn't good enough. Have a few ideas for my next video. Space X is winning right now. What do you think? I may try to work on two videos at once this week.
Woops forgot the math:
The equation is a=(w^2)*r where a is the acceleration, w is the angular velocity and r is the radius.
First we must convert RPM to radians per second. There is 2(pi) radians per revolution and 60 seconds in a minute. So one RPM equals 2(pi)/60. We then simply enter these values into the equation. For our first calculation on space station v we get a=(0.1047)^2*150=1.65 ms^-2
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Комментарии : 6 тыс.   
@CristianLopez-xi4rt
@CristianLopez-xi4rt 5 лет назад
We spent 7 Trillion dollars on the Iraqi wars, I'm sure we can spare 5 Trillion for space exploration.
@Callsign_Prophet
@Callsign_Prophet 4 года назад
Ah yes but then how would we employ all our population? Lol whenever the job market is shrinking there's a war. Hell of a coincidence.
@beerdrinkingdwarf7139
@beerdrinkingdwarf7139 4 года назад
To do that, you'd have to change human nature.
@justinthyme1834
@justinthyme1834 4 года назад
All those trillions didn't get spent in iraq if that much was spent! Maybe one and a half of them did but the majority went to bush and his cronies of bilderburg skull and bones. Biggest money hoarders in the world!!!!
@koolerpure
@koolerpure 4 года назад
7 trillion isnt that much when its for nation security, its a shame that is where the focus is though
@Thisisaweirdthing2makeusdo
@Thisisaweirdthing2makeusdo 4 года назад
Azriel money not a problem if every person involved says they will do it for free? Say an end of the world scenario. Always laugh when money is involved in space exploration problems. It’s not like we have to buy all the equipment of some alien Walmart lol 😂
@Nosttromo
@Nosttromo 3 года назад
"what if money wasn't an issue?" proceeds to talk about money for the rest of the video
@yunan9610
@yunan9610 3 года назад
He did talk about the amount of steel that is needed
@larryhall2805
@larryhall2805 3 года назад
'No bucks, no Buck Rogers.'
@AntonySimkin
@AntonySimkin 3 года назад
Actually... you don't need to build the entire space station... You can built a wire-connected rooms structure that keeps it's shape by centrifugal force and some really small lifts to get into the center room, where people would socialize and feel no centrifugal gravity. That would reduce the cost and the amount of materials by A LOT.
@tsamoka6496
@tsamoka6496 2 года назад
Agreed, it was a little annoying. Basically all he said boiled down to "it's super expensive", and nothing about HOW it could be done. His example of the station from Space Odyssey only talked about making it spin faster, not about what the right size would be. This video? Great idea, failed execution. =^x^=
@CMZneu
@CMZneu 4 года назад
We see this design everywhere but to clarify, it doesn't have to be a wheel, it can be just a long beam like structure with living spaces at the ends that spins on its center, that would reduce the cost of material considerably.
@martinsavage6838
@martinsavage6838 4 года назад
You don’t need a massive wheel. Two disc shaped modules rotating at the end of a very long cable or truss would do the same job.
@avid0g
@avid0g 4 года назад
Yes, this! The floors could have a slight cylindrical curve matching the circumference of spin. The connection would be several parallel pipe made into a rigid truss. If that is not important, then just walk up and down slight slopes. The rigid truss is replaced with "light weight" redundant tethers. I just finished calculating various distance between two tethered Starships vs angular velocity for Mars and Earth gravity.
@sirnikkel6746
@sirnikkel6746 4 года назад
¿What about that this would be the first stage of the project and you keep expanding it until you have the entire ring-wheel?
@martinsavage6838
@martinsavage6838 4 года назад
Slavko Bogdanic Exactly. You have a 1G living and working base and you just extend out from each end as you need more space.
@sirnikkel6746
@sirnikkel6746 4 года назад
*Big B r A i N time!*
@pressaltf4forfreevbucks179
@pressaltf4forfreevbucks179 4 года назад
@@sirnikkel6746 big brain drain
@mynametranslationisliteral6305
we must use "bill gates" as currency in space
@edwardsindustries-20yearsa54
@edwardsindustries-20yearsa54 6 лет назад
talha dugul maybe "Elon Musk" Is a better alternative.
@senseik6766
@senseik6766 6 лет назад
Eso im going to go to pick up Putin. He is worth 200 billion. Is Russain money allowed lol
@TheNightquaker
@TheNightquaker 6 лет назад
I think the joke is that "Bill" here means banknote. So we could use Bill Gates as currency because banknotes are currency.
@martiddy
@martiddy 6 лет назад
talha dugul There's a currency called "Solar" and it's going to be use in a spacial nation called Asgardia.
@skipperofschool8325
@skipperofschool8325 6 лет назад
talha dugul hell no
@sanjivinsmoke3322
@sanjivinsmoke3322 6 лет назад
If I heard correctly, it says 1 million tons. World aluminum production is about 30 million tons annually. If it takes 5 yrs to build, that would be 200 thousand tons a year and the world aluminum market would just barely notice the effect.
@abhijitmajee6754
@abhijitmajee6754 5 лет назад
Yeah, you are correct. As of 2017, the total global annual aluminium production stands at about 60 mil tonnes. Carrying this payload and building in space must be a greater problem as there arent enough resources and manpower to build that big a structure in space. Building ISS itself took around 12 years I suppose.
@talyn3932
@talyn3932 5 лет назад
@Hernando Malinche Why would you have to cut pensions. The resources available in space dwarf those of Earth. The first corporations to exploit them would make their money back in no time. To do this only takes administrative effort... not cost. All upfront costs would be paid back and then ensuring pensions for generations.
@wdd3141
@wdd3141 5 лет назад
Wait for it,... That's still a lot of recycled cans. (troll face)
@talyn3932
@talyn3932 5 лет назад
@Hernando Malinche thats beside the point. Open it up to private enterprise and the private sector will absorb the cost. Tax it and cover ongoing costs such as policing and regulating it.
@wasd____
@wasd____ 5 лет назад
@Hernando Malinche It's very difficult to justify cutting pensions either ethically or legally, because ethically speaking pensions are earned and cutting them is cheating people out of what they were promised, and legally they constitute a form of contract so courts are going to have something to say about breaching that contract.
@paulgibson8846
@paulgibson8846 4 года назад
Seen it on an alien space ship I took custody of in deep space.
@soumyadipbhattacharya6721
@soumyadipbhattacharya6721 3 года назад
😂😂
@isagredanzelb.5602
@isagredanzelb.5602 3 года назад
Did you get any blueprints about lightspeed spaceship?
@God-hr9tm
@God-hr9tm 3 года назад
*Ayyy, y’all finna get there. When y’all get there.*
@NarutoUzumaki-oc7we
@NarutoUzumaki-oc7we 3 года назад
@@God-hr9tm God?!
@God-hr9tm
@God-hr9tm 3 года назад
@@NarutoUzumaki-oc7we *What you want little nigga?*
@YoshisaurUnderscore
@YoshisaurUnderscore 4 года назад
My mind has been sufficiently blown. I always thought artificial gravity was just science fiction; I had no idea that it could actually be a thing!
@maxemore
@maxemore 4 года назад
Just physics
@Stickman_Productions
@Stickman_Productions 3 года назад
This effect happens in the spinning rides too or something like that
@rc-pf1wq
@rc-pf1wq 3 года назад
im really curious to what might happen if you throw a ball, will the spinning affect its trajectory? would it be minimal?
@kudosbudo
@kudosbudo 3 года назад
@@rc-pf1wq I'm more concerned about what happnes if you jump? Ever tied jumping on a bus or train? I sit like that where lanind is difficult or would you not notice?
@SC-zq6cu
@SC-zq6cu 2 года назад
@@rc-pf1wq Yup. The spin would definitely affect its trajectory. Its called the coriolis force and it is a real thing on earth itself. Snipers need to account for it when they are aiming at something sufficiently far off.
@AdstarAPAD
@AdstarAPAD 8 лет назад
The cheaper option is to build your space ship the normal size and build a counter weight of the exact same weight. The you get a strong cable of lets say a kilometer in length and but the space ship on one end and the counter weight on the other end.. Straighten it out and then fire a rocket on both the Space ship and the counter weight in opposing rotational direction.. You now have your gravity for a fraction of the cost that of either space station featured in this video..
@thothheartmaat2833
@thothheartmaat2833 8 лет назад
or you stand on the platform and it rockets towards the destination with rockets on the bottom of where you're standing, pushing you "up" and pulling you "down"
@AdstarAPAD
@AdstarAPAD 8 лет назад
Maathiu Ra Yin You would have to maintain the 1 G acceleration to the half way point and then turn the space ship around and decelerate with the same 1 G deceleration all the way to you get there.. What engine and fuel could sustain a 1 G acceleration over a long journey ? Not sure any such engine and fuel exists..
@Leo1239150
@Leo1239150 8 лет назад
cool concept! But you'd need one hell of a cable :D
@ljdean1956
@ljdean1956 8 лет назад
NASA proposed a similar plan for it's original 1970s space station concept. However, the reason there are no serious plans to develop artificial gravity spacecraft of any kind is cost. NASA Human Space Flight (HSF) is teetering on the verge of ending because the very best engineers NASA has to offer cannot crack the cost barrier. The private sector has yet to demonstrate they can crack it as well. We only have HSF of astronauts on board ISS who are transported via Russian Soyuz craft. When NASA ISS participation ends, then what? There's lots of talk about going to Mars or back to the moon but no concrete plans that can be seen unfolding the way Apollo did. NASA's budget is currently at 1960 levels as a percentage of fed spending. We won't have any very ambitious projects on that budget. It's the main reasons SLS/Orion is on such a glacial test schedule.
@thothheartmaat2833
@thothheartmaat2833 8 лет назад
+AdstarAPAD so you're saying artificial gravity requires acceleration?
@Mellowspark1
@Mellowspark1 8 лет назад
Just build the spaceship around my ex-wife. Gravity problem solved.
@RealEngineering
@RealEngineering 8 лет назад
Hiiiiiiiiiiiiyo!
@isaacjohnson8752
@isaacjohnson8752 8 лет назад
Rim shot lolol
@intheshitter
@intheshitter 8 лет назад
lol'd hard
@jamesbreidenbach5866
@jamesbreidenbach5866 7 лет назад
That would mean that she is also attractive ;)
@pele220
@pele220 7 лет назад
Damn ... LOL
@bladeog4285
@bladeog4285 3 года назад
I’m gonna be honest the math in the description helped me more than a 30 minute lecture from my physics teacher
@wandaflowers4727
@wandaflowers4727 3 года назад
Same RU-vid is my teacher
@gauravv3367
@gauravv3367 5 лет назад
0:15 so basicly laziness costs life in space.
@emixiak
@emixiak 6 лет назад
My bike can't create its own gravity because it's two-tired.
@bungusscrungus2523
@bungusscrungus2523 5 лет назад
HA ha.... ha............... ha
@justnatsuki6526
@justnatsuki6526 5 лет назад
I chuckled I hate my life
@JohnSmith-eo5sp
@JohnSmith-eo5sp 5 лет назад
That's a good one :-)
@duston1540
@duston1540 5 лет назад
Nice
@edu5493
@edu5493 5 лет назад
thanka for that dude 😂
@ArchOfWinter
@ArchOfWinter 8 лет назад
Step 1: Build a space elevator on the equator (Future delivery cost for any space construction will be significantly decreased because of this) Step 2: Build a small spinning ring station at the counterweight of the space elevator for workers to live in Step 3: Build dry docks to constructs space vessels with mining vessels as a priority Step 4: Mine asteroids and the moon for resources exclusively for the use of space travel and construction Step 5: Build a larger and more average people friendly spinning ring station for civilian use Step 6: Proliferate civilian space travel Step 7: Build 2 or 3 more space elevators separating by 120 degrees or 90 degrees on the equator to make space travel more accessible for people of every hemisphere Step 8: Place solar energy arrays on the counterweights stations to beam back down power to the ground via laser (Because the elevators are so tall, the Earth's shadow won't block the solar arrays, thus allowing them to produce electricity 24/7) With enough of these arrays on the towers and receiving station on land, it will make all fossil fuel and even wind energy obsolete Step 9: Unlimited clean energy mean slowing down climate changes and possibly reverse it with the added benefits of removing oil as a factor of political conflicts
@Trayo612
@Trayo612 8 лет назад
If they could only find a way to produce Graphene in larger quantities. This would be a big Step on the way to Step 1
@RealEngineering
@RealEngineering 8 лет назад
Graphene isn't strong enough either, I will make a video about this eventually. I actually specialized in carbon fiber composites for my thesis. A subject I am really passionate about, but people overstate the strength of composite materials. I would say, with a fair bit of confidence, that we will never see a space elevator.
@ArchOfWinter
@ArchOfWinter 8 лет назад
I say even if it seem impossible for such strong material to exist now, we should still chase after it. We will learn something new every attempt we try.
@Trayo612
@Trayo612 8 лет назад
Real Engineering Huh? I thought that Graphene was the only material which could withstand the forces? Sad to hear that this isn't the case at all.
@AndrewMeyer
@AndrewMeyer 8 лет назад
Apparently boron nitride nanotubes and diamond nanothreads are also candidate materials for building a space elevator (though I imagine we're nowhere close to being able to produce those in significant enough quantities to be used for that purpose).
@kirkjohnson9353
@kirkjohnson9353 5 лет назад
Too bad there isn't already a large ball of rock rotating in an orbit around earth- we could build on THAT.
@575drv
@575drv 5 лет назад
Kirk, I own a lumberyard and an Island, but until I’ve built a Boat my Island retreat just isn’t going to happen.
@jntaylor29
@jntaylor29 5 лет назад
@@575drv there are plenty of boats/rockets go to the Moon, funny how we can't seem to get back to where we already been
@dhvanitdesai5359
@dhvanitdesai5359 5 лет назад
Now only if we had the ability to go to a huge rock near Earth 50 years ago
@rap1df1r3
@rap1df1r3 5 лет назад
You're right, there isn't. The Earth is flat and motionless.
@TexMex421
@TexMex421 5 лет назад
It is going to be difficult to move that large ball of rock away from the Earth, and if we did, the Earth would tend to miss it what with the loss of tides, etc.
@Naomi-nx6ht
@Naomi-nx6ht 5 лет назад
great work, really! Love your content!
@MrDeaz
@MrDeaz 7 лет назад
I know it's a strange comparison, since it has many factors to look at. But imagine a country like USA used their military budget on science and space programs instead, they could have colonized Mars then
@dawsonanderson9230
@dawsonanderson9230 7 лет назад
MrDeaz yeah and we would have been nuked by now
@dawsonanderson9230
@dawsonanderson9230 7 лет назад
But I get what your saying that would be awesome
@Nate3million
@Nate3million 7 лет назад
Unfortuately Trump has also said he wants money put into exploring the rest of the solar system rather than colonizing mars, which sucks because i think we need to go expand because im afraid of what humanity is doing/will do to this planet if all of this war continues. Also imagine what the mars colonies would be like, no war, very little conflict, only progress, and lots of resources, heaven in my view
@MrDeaz
@MrDeaz 7 лет назад
I could imagine that war on Earth will end when we find another planet to attack. Considering back in the early days, it was tribes against tribes, then cities, then countries, now big military alliances vs countries.
@Nate3million
@Nate3million 7 лет назад
MrDeaz Your right, we need an alien invasion or something similiar. Suddenly all of humanity would shit themselves and huddle together for survival
@WormholeJim
@WormholeJim 8 лет назад
It's when watching vids like these, it really saddens me to think about how we spend as much as 95% of our total time and energy on either making little plastic-gadgets to sell to eachother, or new ways of killing eachother. Usually both. When it is too expensive building a spacestation, say, 700 meters across; building extraction-, processing- and launchfacilities on the moon; all those neat scifi-ish things that it is actually within our capabilities to do - it is because we *choose* it to be too expensive.
@johnberry4540
@johnberry4540 8 лет назад
Yeah, the cost is not even that much. Heck, the Pentagon loses that much money all the time.
@johnberry4540
@johnberry4540 8 лет назад
And that is pretending the best technology we have to get to space is spaceX and Rocketry, which honestly it isn't.
@WormholeJim
@WormholeJim 8 лет назад
Well, I've seen the youtube vids and heard the talks, and while people like Steven Greer and things like his disclosure project are fascinating to the extreme, my standpoint is that the only thing Iknow with absolute certainty is that I don't know anything. So when thinking 'seriously' about humans in space, I put all that aside as, say, inspiration for if I feel like writing a scifi novel. Seriously, then, I think there are some interesting developements going on in our efforts to reach space in a permanent way, efforts that build directly on top of what makes most of world's populace tick, and the social structures that made us so: Entertainment. I've been following this dutch-based initiativ, MarsOne, that wants to put a permanently settled colony on Mars, and they want to fund it by making it into a reality-TV show. And they are having succes with this business model, having got more than adequate funding for their preliminary work and testing, and also been promised additional funding as conclusions lead to new tests and further on the construction of various earthside fascilities that serves spacebound purposes. It's even worded like this because they want to keep their options open for any nano-material revolutions that might be happening sometime soon. In the background they also got a lot of scientific interest going for them - obviously - for also, sort of incidentally - being in the process of creating a platform for absolutely groundbreaking scientific research. And not only in space-relevant hard thechs; physics, mathematics, astrology, but also soft sciences as sociology and antropology. Even completely new branches that might have enourmous impact on the already established ones, like exo-allsortsofology. It's nuts how much momentum they got, and best of all is that it could not have gotten any weirder if Douglas Adams himself had come up with it.
@artaiosgreybark2162
@artaiosgreybark2162 8 лет назад
The thing is just that we don't need a station like that. It would serve no purpose other than very expensive and dangerous living space and labs.
@N0xiety
@N0xiety 8 лет назад
You know the problem isn't about our capability of doing it. We could also build a high speed vacuumed train tunnel between US and EU. Then why don't we just do that? Because there is just no need at the moment while planes can do the same thing for cheaper. There is no need to build factories on the moon while we can still obtain elements from earth alot cheaper or there is no need for a gigantic space station while we can do all the science we need in a smaller one. We also don't need a space station to live on as long as there is nothing wrong with earths atmosphere or we don't run out of living space on earth. What you say would only be possible if our society advances to a point that manufacturing of food, transportation, telecommunication, policing, medical care, and so on is handled by machines. In that society people would no longer need to perform manual labour or even work to maintain their basic lifestyles. Work would be available in order to obtain a sense of accomplishment in life and only those driven by curiosity or a sense of duty would persue it. Only in a society like this can we do what you describe. In our current society which is ruled by money we just can't pursue greatness, everything is bound to profit.
@kerbonaut2059
@kerbonaut2059 5 лет назад
>Starts the video on how centrifugal force will develop in a rotation frame of refrence OH YEAH
@nathanleblanc5178
@nathanleblanc5178 4 года назад
The fact that it’s even possible is amazing
@lifethrownoutofthewindow
@lifethrownoutofthewindow 7 лет назад
$1.6 trillion revolutionary tech : OMGOMG SO EXPENSIVE iraq's useless war : $2.4 trillion :/
@flabbywall1780
@flabbywall1780 6 лет назад
Fade war not really useless. Vietnam was
@nolanmurphy1613
@nolanmurphy1613 6 лет назад
Flabby Wall1 the US military won Vietnam, but the US congress lost it.
@grantcarter3972
@grantcarter3972 5 лет назад
So it would be double the cost of iraq? considering it was 5 trillion (rough estimate)
@gaybroshevik4180
@gaybroshevik4180 5 лет назад
@Dark Phoenix Islam is not the enemy. The Christian religion saying other Religions are the enemy is actually the fucking enemy.
@gaybroshevik4180
@gaybroshevik4180 5 лет назад
@Dark Phoenix the catholic church is the enemy, bro.
@zanshibumi
@zanshibumi 6 лет назад
You don't need to build a circumference, just two small ships tied by a long thin structure.
@enderyu
@enderyu 6 лет назад
Or maybe a single ship with a counterweight like one of those metallic asteroids ?
@ohtych1004
@ohtych1004 6 лет назад
zanshibumi yeah but the two space shuttle has some gravity pulling the thing tubes closer until it snaps. NASA would need to make the tube extremely strong and that’s the big issue
@Raz.C
@Raz.C 6 лет назад
zanshibumi AT LAST!!! Someone else who gets it!
@harrystranger
@harrystranger 6 лет назад
Carbon Nanotubes...
@MervynPartin
@MervynPartin 6 лет назад
zanshibumi- I do not know the country in which you live, so it may be unlikely that you have seen it, but a concept similar to your proposal was featured in the BBC tv series "Star Cops" (which aired on British television around 2004) where the International Space Police visited an American space station that used a module on an extended gantry to provide earth gravity.
@raven2zz5
@raven2zz5 2 года назад
exactly the same thing what I was searching for, thankyou very much!
@spartanbale1878
@spartanbale1878 4 года назад
Hey I know this came out 3 years ago but on Netflix there’s a show called Lost In Space and it has rotating circles like you said
@spartanbale1878
@spartanbale1878 4 года назад
Naiyo Seam Why are you commenting that on my comment? and he didn’t say they were new
@keymul
@keymul 4 года назад
Spacex may be able to make the spinning ship due to reusable ships and building it in space like the iss
@tombaker8481
@tombaker8481 4 года назад
Lost in Space is awful...they made all the men stupid and weak, they have some stupid "we can fight using our minds and not guns!"...and EVERY character is a drama queen.
@spartanbale1878
@spartanbale1878 4 года назад
Tom Baker that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard never speak to me again you jerk
@tombaker8481
@tombaker8481 4 года назад
@@spartanbale1878 LOL, you're a whiny little thing aren't you?...you can't handle another person's opinion?...do you cry when someone disagrees with you?...awww, poor baby. Lost in Space SUCKED, they emasculated every guy, they made the robot some god like being with no REAL purpose but to get in the way, Dr Smith is a JOKE of a character that can't hold a candle to either the 70's version, OR the 1998 film and, I'll repeat..."NO type of military or armed force to defend humans seeking a new home, heck, they deserved to not only be lost but to die off in the void...LOL...remember, you asked for this...I'll allow you the last word before muting you, I can't stand a weak, easily offended baby
@escraftTH
@escraftTH 8 лет назад
Why not just use two pods attached to each other by a 200m long cable and spin the whole thing. No need for a ring.
@felixbade2879
@felixbade2879 8 лет назад
Indeed! Ideally the cable would be a few kilometers long to make spinning slower than 1rpm. We could also use a dummy weight on the other end. Ot just very very long cable. Small dummy weight is probably the cheapest and lightest option
@TheTancan99
@TheTancan99 8 лет назад
I could be wrong but I seem to remember something like this being done.... not with the intent of artificial gravity but at least tried....
@swrdghcnqstdr
@swrdghcnqstdr 8 лет назад
how do you spin it without bending the cable or messing up your orbit
@TheTancan99
@TheTancan99 8 лет назад
+William Herron I think you'd have to have two rockets on either end to fire at the same time to help keep the orbit stabilized...
@TheBluMeeny
@TheBluMeeny 8 лет назад
Better yet, a super strong rod, so you wouldn't need to waste fuel on the rockets. Although a material that could provide such strength doesn't exist atm, but I could be wrong.
@markotark
@markotark 8 лет назад
So, even with RADICALLY conservative (if that is a thing) estimates, the amount of money that was spent on bailing out Wall Street could have built us a one or maybe even more space stations like in 2001. Even considering some dire economic consequences, i'd be inclined to have stations instead of bonuses in the pockets of bankers...
@intjonmiller
@intjonmiller 8 лет назад
You and me, both. Consider that NASA's entire operating budget is less than was spent annually on just air conditioning of offices and officer's quarters in the war in Iraq. Look it up. The scale is unbelievable and eye-opening.
@Poctyk
@Poctyk 8 лет назад
And ITER budget is less then people annually spend on IPhones. Let's stop wasting money on those silly things?
@Poctyk
@Poctyk 8 лет назад
>one or maybe even more space stations like in 2001. Why? I mean why building
@TheGamingg33k
@TheGamingg33k 8 лет назад
USAs military budget is the largest compared to anyone in the world. I dont know what they fuk they are doing with all that money.
@Derek_Gunn
@Derek_Gunn 8 лет назад
They are wasting it on the F-35 program ( $1.5 trillion so far). Almost enough to pay to lift Elysium's raw materials into orbit! See above at 3:37
@tuluksvui747
@tuluksvui747 5 лет назад
First video from you i understood fully... Thanks
@dharmawangsa9592
@dharmawangsa9592 2 года назад
Always love how you explain it with physics formula
@drdeth2
@drdeth2 6 лет назад
Some crazy tinfoil hat guy "Gravity? Gravity isn't real!"
@bubbaole9036
@bubbaole9036 5 лет назад
Tell them drdeth2 . They won't listen to me.
@derbersdiscoveries5938
@derbersdiscoveries5938 5 лет назад
ESD
@damienboyo3788
@damienboyo3788 5 лет назад
I skydive an i can asure you gravity IS real. What else could pull me back to earth at; 120mph, 193kph, 53.6m/s, 176f/s Or if you'd prefere 104.3knots. ??? Im pritty sure its grAVity... Or is it a cartoon???
@TexMex421
@TexMex421 5 лет назад
@@damienboyo3788 A bungie cord could pull you far faster than that.
@davidpavel5017
@davidpavel5017 4 года назад
@@damienboyo3788 check out Vsauces video called which way is down
@EASYTIGER10
@EASYTIGER10 7 лет назад
Why do you need a complete ring? As you say, it's complicated and costly. Why not build something shaped like this > (======) or the beam on that beam engine shown at 5:26 - with a long central spoke for systems and storage and short curved pods for habitation at each end. Then just spin the whole thing to create gravity in the pods. You could always extend the end pods into bigger arcs as time and money allows.
@thermophile2106
@thermophile2106 7 лет назад
EASYTIGER10 I agree. It doesn't even have to be semetrical. Put your people on one side, have a long cable, and put your supplies on the other. If one side is more massive, it will move in smaller circles, so both ends would have the same centripetal force.
@snowthemegaabsol6819
@snowthemegaabsol6819 7 лет назад
Rapidly crossing into varying gravitational forces like that can have adverse effects on the equilibrium
@ironcito1101
@ironcito1101 7 лет назад
That is what Zubrin et al proposed in their Mars Direct plan, albeit on a small scale, of course. The ship at one end of a long tether, and the spent upper stage of the booster at the other end, rotating around each other. Artificial gravity (at least a fraction of Earth's) for the way to Mars, so the astronauts get there healthy and ready to go.
@ObjectsInMotion
@ObjectsInMotion 7 лет назад
This is where physics turns into mechanical engineering. The materials would have to be much stronger if the structure is unbalanced or unsymmetrical. A circle is just simply the most stable structure.
@macjonte
@macjonte 6 лет назад
Have something looking quite like this: 8=====D~ and your home free. ^.^
@thomasarmer6657
@thomasarmer6657 4 года назад
Using dwarves would reduce the speed effect issue.
@aristocrazy6192
@aristocrazy6192 2 года назад
For those wondering, this video was done well before the spaceX starship program. So building this is definitely possible with starship launching cost and weight it can catry
@Beanskiiii
@Beanskiiii Год назад
It’s never going to be built. There isn’t enough aluminum on earth to build it and space mining isn’t a thing because the cost of space mining outweighs the profits gained from it.
@bidav2114
@bidav2114 8 месяцев назад
Starship these days, kaboom
@seamuscallaghan8851
@seamuscallaghan8851 7 лет назад
The cost would be a lot lower if we just mined, processed, and assembled the materials in space rather than trying to haul them up out of Earth's gravity well. I mean, setting up the infrastructure would be expensive, but it's a good investment. I'm excited for asteroid mining.
@Private_Colceri
@Private_Colceri 6 лет назад
It's cool, but it's like Satellite recycling, It might be a cost effective genius idea, but the mythical powers that be say "no" so, no. Seriously though, space is probably the biggest frontier for logic failures.
@AngelLestat2
@AngelLestat2 8 лет назад
first, you dont need something so big as the elysium to reduce the gradient effects of your feets and head.. 400m diameter disk is enough in that matter. You dont need a disk.. you can use just a tether with another habitat for counter weight, or you can use inflatable habitat and you launch them in sections to complete the ring. Your cost calculations are also pointless, launch cost will be reduce a lot in the comming years, and we will not need nothing of this until 30 years at least.
@kelzuya
@kelzuya 7 лет назад
He did qualify his calculations with "although costs will only go down in coming years". I don't think working out a solid figure with today's information is pointless. Bit harsh expecting him to calculate costs based on imagined figures from the future.
@JackOfNothing
@JackOfNothing 7 лет назад
AngelLestat2 What percent of force difference between a persons feet and head can they handle before becoming disorientated? What is the smallest radius for 2Gs of simulated gravity before it sickens occupants?
@foobar2285
@foobar2285 7 лет назад
AngelLestat2 yep and that's why NASA doesn't use it.
@andyvasvari4874
@andyvasvari4874 7 лет назад
You can't simulate gravity everywhere. That is fiction.
@andyvasvari4874
@andyvasvari4874 7 лет назад
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@gamingroom2541
@gamingroom2541 4 года назад
1:52 SpaceX : Hold my beer.
@Agedude
@Agedude 4 года назад
What if we were to trap an asteroid and accelerate its rotation so that a tunnel just under the surface of the asteroid would have "gravity" similar to Earth? You wouldn't be able to stand on the exterior of the asteroid, but you could dock with it by matching the rotation speed and using some kind of tether.
@alfonso8582
@alfonso8582 7 лет назад
I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I can't let you do that.
@skullofserpent5727
@skullofserpent5727 7 лет назад
ctrexrhino you forgot, dave
@Robert-lb7jq
@Robert-lb7jq 7 лет назад
Damn it, Slippy! Stop quoting the enemy!
@miguelpereira9859
@miguelpereira9859 7 лет назад
ctrexrhino Where did ya get that idea?
@Nemoticon
@Nemoticon 7 лет назад
Dais....ey.... Dai...sey..... giv...e.... me.... your.... an....swer..... doooooooooooo
@juandiegoprado
@juandiegoprado 7 лет назад
ctrexrhino Open the pod bay doors Hal!
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 6 лет назад
FWIW: "Space Station V" - the "V" is the roman numeral "5". So it's "Space Station 5".
@BrainUser1
@BrainUser1 4 года назад
Not sure, aside lots of roman /greek (pagan)culture there is also a lot of jewish mysticism, V as W are numeric value of *6*
@insertyourfeelingshere8106
@insertyourfeelingshere8106 4 года назад
I think this misses the point of the video
@BrainUser1
@BrainUser1 4 года назад
@@insertyourfeelingshere8106 ​ You are for one ruff ride on YT, lots of comments miss thee Point, yours is one of the few.... Though GRAVITY was a Pulling force not pushing one (thats is Ether)? It is not CT hoax Advocates that deny centrifugal force :)
@Qusin111
@Qusin111 4 года назад
at 1:36 what they do not explain is that he is in "effect" walking up hill (in the centrifuge) the whole time
@astrotecn
@astrotecn 3 года назад
It seems the principal thing holding us back from space is gravity.
@wktodd
@wktodd 6 лет назад
it does not need to be a large diameter, it only needs to be long , i.e. two masses separated by a long cable spinning around their centre of mass
@thomasini
@thomasini 6 лет назад
Exactly what I was thinking!
@gacorley
@gacorley 6 лет назад
You save some material that way, but you are losing some comfort and security. Now the only way to get to the other side of the station is through microgravity. And if your tether gets hit by an asteroid, there is way to have a backup that will take the weight, and your living space flies off into space. With a continuous ring, you can walk the entire circumference, and you can have multiple spokes supporting the structure. Your design also means that you're not maximizing the livable area. Every bit of material you add to make a larger ring also gives you greater surface area in the gravity section. So, if you want to accommodate a lot of people, you'll want to build one large, continuous ring anyway. You just want to work out how much material you can get to build the largest ring possible, for capacity and comfort of inhabitants.
@dougmc666
@dougmc666 6 лет назад
Three masses works well, one in the center for zero-g and docking.
@jacobstaten2366
@jacobstaten2366 5 лет назад
*twang* Goodbye Earth. Hello cold abyss.
@talyn3932
@talyn3932 5 лет назад
Bolo and hourglass habitats address this. They have drawbacks to them that Torus don't. Then the Torus also has drawbacks that an O'Neil Cylinder does not. Really, scaling up makes it more stable and less dependent on fine tuning. If you have a larger and more complex biosphere inside of it, it can handle disruptions easier. With all of these habitats, wobbles can damage or destroy them. that is another thing that mass addresses. However, the odds of an asteroid striking a cable are probably the same as an asteroid destroying your house.
@jaredj631
@jaredj631 8 лет назад
The artificial gravity craft dose not need to be a circle. All you need to do is connect a conventional space craft to a long pole or tether to a counterweight. The counter weight could be an other conventional space craft or just use old satellite or fuel tanks. No sci-fi magic needed
@redlion145
@redlion145 8 лет назад
The main problem with a bolo setup is that it only takes one micrometeoroid impacting that tether to send the two spacecraft hurtling in opposite directions, spiraling out of control. A solid structure would be preferable for long term habitation, both for durability and ease of maintenance. A bolo has a single point of failure that is just too glaringly obvious.
@jaredj631
@jaredj631 8 лет назад
+Irish Identity I agree a tube like structure would be nice so the People could go between the two units with out a space walk. Perhaps redundant tethers also for structural stability and reduced weight.
@redlion145
@redlion145 8 лет назад
Have you read Seveneves by Neal Stephenson? Science fiction novel dealing with an apocalyptic event and the survival of humans by going into space.
@jaredj631
@jaredj631 8 лет назад
+Irish Identity no but it sounds awesome I'm going to look it up.
@micahgilbertcubing5911
@micahgilbertcubing5911 6 лет назад
A circle 2ould also be better for long-term travel because the whole point of simulating gravity is to allow the muscles to exercise. It would be much easier to have a torus,like in Seveneves, because of how easy it would be to walk
@fastfiddler1625
@fastfiddler1625 5 лет назад
Ironically, this is crushing my dreams.
@alkevinzmedia
@alkevinzmedia 3 года назад
Keep the station centered on bearings and centrifugal force outer core with magnetic propulsion. Small grooves on the inner donut enable stopping and go cuts that the ball bearing will stop and go on similar to a rotary engine.
@kennethstodder1237
@kennethstodder1237 7 лет назад
imagine being a construction worker in space, cat talking aliens and shit.
@caddy272
@caddy272 6 лет назад
Kenneth Stodder The term is is "cat calling".
@why8800
@why8800 7 лет назад
ISRO(Indian Space Research Organisation) can take 1kg material to space under $500. (spacex $1600) Cost can be cut down to just $1.6 Trillion. Let's do it
@kelvin3706
@kelvin3706 6 лет назад
500 usd + destroyed cargo
@bubbaole9036
@bubbaole9036 5 лет назад
I said no material is leaving this planet as long I am here. Period!
@User-du7kf
@User-du7kf 5 лет назад
@@kelvin3706 ISRO has been very successful in recent times, though it hasn't reached the incredible feats like NASA and that's because of lack in funding. ISRO is much cheaper economically compared to other organizations. Period.
@minibray
@minibray 5 лет назад
Who’d you have to kill to get that username?
@bubbaole9036
@bubbaole9036 5 лет назад
@@minibray We don;t kill, we negotiate, we trade or we buy the name. That's what smart people do. satan and his students kills.
@opabinnier
@opabinnier Месяц назад
You said "excape"! Bless you, you little bumpkin: so adorable awww!
@fabianoperes2155
@fabianoperes2155 4 года назад
Really nice video. Subscribed! Supose it would be possible to create a RingWorld with 8.000 km ?(Yes, Bigger than Earth) radious, how fast would it need to spin to simulate Earth gravity?
@spaceflightexplosionstutor4167
If you built it with radius somewhere between 75 000 - 85 000 km radius (I don’t now how to calculate certain number) , it would need to spin once a day, soo you can connect it with space elevators. Speed would be between 6 and 7 km/s
@braindead_boi
@braindead_boi 6 лет назад
0:14 , look! a AG ring system comes over the horizon!
@Disthron
@Disthron 5 лет назад
This makes me wonder about the system they used in 'The Martian'. Where rather than having full wheels they only had 2 wings, each with a part of a circle that seem to balance each other out.
@swampdonkey1567
@swampdonkey1567 4 года назад
Centrifugal force is crazy there is a strapless spinning ride that spins you and you stick to walk at worlds of fun in KC,MO.
@kudosbudo
@kudosbudo 3 года назад
Se but that only works because you accelerate up to teh correct speed. What happens if you get stopped dead in a centrfugal spacestation? Do you just start ping ponging around? if theres no outside gravity pulling on you to hold you in position and you jump in a space station, while you would be carrie dforwards it would akin to jumping on a moving vehicle, landing would be difficult. And thus walking aorund should be difficult too. Even a smooth moving plate on teh end of a pole would feel slightly off.
@fuglsanggaming5539
@fuglsanggaming5539 4 года назад
i love you i where making a school project and i could use this so thank you
@mathiaskjeldgaardpetersen5926
@mathiaskjeldgaardpetersen5926 8 лет назад
Hi Real Engineering, so if you jump in a centrifugal "artificial gravity" what would make you come down again?
@RealEngineering
@RealEngineering 8 лет назад
The same thing that made you go down in the first place, inertia.
@mathiaskjeldgaardpetersen5926
@mathiaskjeldgaardpetersen5926 8 лет назад
okay, so if I float in orbit and someone put a cenfrifuge around me ( with the same trajectory so there is no contact ) I would somehow be attracted to the sides of the centrifuge? ( if the jump negates the inertia )
@RealEngineering
@RealEngineering 8 лет назад
No, if you somehow magically appeared inside it, you would float above it. That isn't going to happen though, you will either be inside it while it accelerates or you will climb down from the center of rotation. The structure will need to transfer inertia to you.
@mathiaskjeldgaardpetersen5926
@mathiaskjeldgaardpetersen5926 8 лет назад
oh yea that is logical but it sounds to be a quite tricky system in practice if you would treat it like a normal space station. Love the video BTW. kudos
@robp1458
@robp1458 8 лет назад
+Mathias Petersen. is this in a vacuum or air? it would make a difference
@TheAkashicTraveller
@TheAkashicTraveller 8 лет назад
So basically pretty much anything is possible when you have 500,000 people who each have more than 10,000,000$ contributing.
@secularmonk5176
@secularmonk5176 8 лет назад
This is a variation on the Musk strategy to colonize Mars (as outlined by waitbutwhy): make a travel pass cheap enough that there are one million people willing to pay for a one-way trip.
@arjensmit6074
@arjensmit6074 8 лет назад
common good ? Its not in my interest to send a bunch of people into space (or myself for that matter). It is however in my interest to send robots into space who mine the asteroids and/or planets, transform the resources into usable products and send those to earth for us to use. That way we can stop destroying and depleting the earth and make it a paradise with all the dirty manufacturing stuff happening in space. And then, in time, the robot factory complex in space can grow and ultimately prepare other planets for us to inhabit. I expect the space mining to start in this century, to mature in the next and 2 or 3 centuries down the line i suppose we can start inhabiting other planets. We dont need to make huge investments for non-sustainable projects now. If we start doing what is interesting for us now (space mining), soon there will be an infrastructure that allows us to colonize planets in a more sustainable way. Not by having many people pay for sending a few people, but by having self replicating robots basically do everything for free while we sit on our asses and just worry about keeping control of the AI instead of it controlling us.
@sermerlin1
@sermerlin1 8 лет назад
it's not in your interest to send a bunch of people into space? Then what the fuck is all bellow you wrote? Point is space travel. Traveling to another planets. Seeing new unseen shit. Spreading ourselves among the universe meeting new people along the way (aliens)... BUT assholes rather chose to spend money on wars.
@nexusoflife
@nexusoflife 8 лет назад
Anything is possible for humans when a monetary system and the ego are out of the way.
@ark_ryl9384
@ark_ryl9384 8 лет назад
So many communists ITT.
@noeldeate1987
@noeldeate1987 5 лет назад
lol that would be amazing , centrifugal forces working outside of a gravity field. lmfao
@alexl7213
@alexl7213 3 года назад
this is possible to build with a modular concept. Pretty much like oversized legos - the idea is to create multipurpose modules that can be sent into space, and in space, attached to each other, with interior tech added as required for each specific function. The ring would start with core modules installed, two tethers and 2 bigger sections at each end. Rotation would start then, to ensure gravity in the outer sections. Then more modules would be added to the outer sections, with more tethers as required, until a whole ring was formed.
@cartossin
@cartossin 6 лет назад
You could also have two modules connected by a long truss or cable then rotate the whole system. This way you could have large radius w/o much material.
@SokarEntertainment
@SokarEntertainment 6 лет назад
When I real some of the top comments on this channel, I get the feeling there aren't very many action engineers or physicists watching. Love the channel though!
@kudosbudo
@kudosbudo 3 года назад
Question for you. If you set up a artifical gravity ring and spin it up to speed and its sides were open, if you moved from outside the ring into the rings cavity/walkway without touching anything would you be sucked down to the floor or merely float through the gaps?
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 3 года назад
I love the asteroid trapping bag, so ridiculous! As if enveloping an asteroid at high speed would somehow magically stop it from moving. LOL.
@JosifKalin
@JosifKalin 5 лет назад
@ 5:00 sorry, but I have to disagree. What we can find in the space is raw material, with unknown composition, that has to be processed. So we have to add some extra for bringing the material down to earth and processing, or for a processing plant working in space.
@joseignaciohileradorna5122
@joseignaciohileradorna5122 7 лет назад
what do you mean "get into orbit"? It would be built in orbit
@smeg7ds
@smeg7ds 7 лет назад
Yeah but you have to get the materials required to build it in space, so yes you do need to get it to orbit.
@joseignaciohileradorna5122
@joseignaciohileradorna5122 7 лет назад
Sekrit Dokuments Meteors are rich in building resources
@Blockbuster2033
@Blockbuster2033 7 лет назад
Sow how many meteors do you have that would supply that amount of mass flying by the earth so close and so slow that you could capture them? ah yeah... none
@jpetras16
@jpetras16 7 лет назад
Ok cool! You get on that.
@joseignaciohileradorna5122
@joseignaciohileradorna5122 7 лет назад
Blockbuster2033 theres actually a lot like that
@issakakamal2801
@issakakamal2801 Год назад
Please cn you make a video on Neural networks in computer Science. You are channel is the best amongst all the channels on RU-vid when it comes to science and engineering. Neural networks is something I'm finding difficult to understand and no video on RU-vid explains it to the layman understanding.
@cjshakes
@cjshakes 5 лет назад
I know this video is old but you should do a video on artificial gravitiy in a rod. Essenstially, it'd be a spacecraft shaped as a long tube (which for the most part they are anyway). The tube would then be spun after reaching its desired orbit or perhaps after doing its last burn sending it to Mars. At the tips of the tube would be 1 G where the astronauts would sleep and exercise to maximize the benefits. This removes the need for a massive space station to avoid differential acceleration. Also, it is in general a much more resource efficient method to achieve artificial gravity.
@3Rton
@3Rton 8 лет назад
Whoa. Channel name is real engineering. Doesn't even go into the whole problem of assembling that structure of that scale in space nor the whole deal about actually getting the workers and machines there to do it.
@s4ujcd
@s4ujcd 8 лет назад
Can you cover all that in 6 minutes 33 seconds?
@Gopherborn
@Gopherborn 8 лет назад
+s4ujcd yes
@sermerlin1
@sermerlin1 8 лет назад
that's the least amount of problem. We have tech for building in space already it all just takes shit ton of time but as we would develop machines it would be faster and faster each year. Just like they develop fucking weapons which can kill you faster with less effort every year which cost more then to build this freaking space station.
@vladdy9739
@vladdy9739 7 лет назад
why not make real gravity, and just put some boxes and tape it to the bottom of the station?
@user-yw6ee4cg4g
@user-yw6ee4cg4g 7 лет назад
Vlad The Inhaler Do you understand how gravity works?
@vladdy9739
@vladdy9739 7 лет назад
#InThe Butt yeah the more mass the more your pulled to it , so if there's more mass at the bottom of the station, the more your pulled towards it, so if they store their stuff on the bottom of the station they can stand
@user-yw6ee4cg4g
@user-yw6ee4cg4g 7 лет назад
Vlad The Inhaler But you can't fit that amount of mass on à space station
@vladdy9739
@vladdy9739 7 лет назад
#InThe Butt yeah you can it's called tape
@Oliver-bn7jt
@Oliver-bn7jt 7 лет назад
lol the boxes would do nothing you would need like septillions of boxes to even create a tiny bit of gravity
@jovannyvelarde5298
@jovannyvelarde5298 4 года назад
I gotta admit, you’re awesome bro
@ryanmaxwelll2730
@ryanmaxwelll2730 3 года назад
Feel free to try this experiment at a merry go round with a fishing pole tied to a ball. Spin the merry go round as fast as you can manage, then hang the ball in the space between the center and bars where it wont be hit or touched by any part of the marry go round. What you will find is that the ball is not magically drawn to the periphery by "centrifugal force", but rather it will hang there, perfectly still (well, as still as you can hold it). A centrifuge needs Earth's ( or any other large enough body) gravity to make inertia move an object, and for it wo work effectively, it needs to be on a perpendicular plane to the of the object exerting the gravity (the more parallel the inertia to the gravity, the more "imbalanced load" washing machine effect your will get). If a centrifuge were operated in the weightlessness of space, for example, what you would get is the opposite of the imbalanced washing machine load effect: no effect whatsoever. You would have a floating object sitting perfectly still in the center of a spinning hollow puck. If somehow the object came into contact with the sides, the surfaces of both would act on one another, but not in any way that can be construed as centrifugal force.
@BigBoss-ps6vk
@BigBoss-ps6vk 8 лет назад
Call me stupid, but I watched so many sci fi movie I thought artificial gravity is real...
@reizayin
@reizayin 8 лет назад
K, stupid..
@BigBoss-ps6vk
@BigBoss-ps6vk 8 лет назад
Thentai :(
@uchennamaduno5799
@uchennamaduno5799 8 лет назад
It's called "Sci-Fi," or "Science Fiction" for a reason..
@xunk16
@xunk16 8 лет назад
In science-fiction, artificial gravity is a generic correction expressed by the lack of budget. If the budget is lower, then the gravity will be closer to earth or "stronger". But with a decent budget, you can have more realistic sci-fi nowadays. Exemple : The Expanse, or Gravity. In "The Expanse" they treat gravity as it should be in space, different planets or asteroids have different gravity, changing everything to the liquid falling in your glass. Sometimes, the constant acceleration of ships will be sufficient to create momentary gravity which is lost when the ship is stopped, altered when it turns, or diminish when it slows. "Gravity" uses a gritty realism to depict a plausible accident in space in our time and around the earth. It very much illustrates it's namesake in an hour or so action sequence. "Sidonia no Kishi" also makes uses of space and gravity as a setting for many convincing mecha battles. (It also focus on the ridiculous range of fire and differing accelerations problems you may encounter in space.) So yeah, sci-fi is not dead, but if the 50s-70s era beleived in a magic artificial gravity, most serious writers now know it is a plot device for budget failings. It doesn't get Babylon 5 less brilliant on other points, but then... if you had to fail every sci-fi show for it's depiction of Gravity, you'd miss all the good ones. And again you have all the Star Wars and Firefly trying to explain artificial gravity as a feild phenomena with serious thinking. So maybe all isn't lost. Maybe someday... when a nuclear fusion generator will be safe, abordable and smaller than a car engine.
@3gunslingers
@3gunslingers 8 лет назад
+xunk16 apart from the rest of your rather good comment: "you can have more realistic sci-fi nowadays [like]... Gravity." Nice joke xD
@emils7054
@emils7054 5 лет назад
All I can think about is The Gravity Chamber in DBZ...our power level, next we need senzu beans
@joseinfante5054
@joseinfante5054 4 года назад
Gravity doesn’t exist and you’re not pull to earth, you’re pushed to earth by the AETHER, but this is a lot of sand for your pickup truck, read the German Patent SCHAPPELLER DEVISE.
@joseinfante5054
@joseinfante5054 3 года назад
@Ayob Aref You tell me, this is not the issue here the topic here is bull shit gravity and antigravity without physical proof. And you didn't bother to read and study Karl Schappeller Devise's patent, so why am I going to bother teaching rogues.
@higorss
@higorss 3 года назад
@@joseinfante5054 bruh
@tomjary9284
@tomjary9284 4 года назад
I think a cylinder shape is also considerable. There will be central axis with long flat floor inside the cylinder & while it spin we can stick to one side either the right part of the floor. Or the down part of left side floor. But we would stick.
@stonefreak5763
@stonefreak5763 Год назад
You really improved a friggin lot, still like the wideo tho
@Qwerasd
@Qwerasd 7 лет назад
Hi, Real Engineering, I have a question for you. Is the centrifugal governer spinning clockwise or counterclockwise?
@RealEngineering
@RealEngineering 7 лет назад
Neither, it's a 2D animation that I forgot to apply scale to. Still learning this animation stuff.
@Qwerasd
@Qwerasd 7 лет назад
Wow! I didn't think you'd reply. I just found your channel recently and have really enjoyed the videos of yours that I've watched. The animations look fantastic by the way.
@TheIceThorn
@TheIceThorn 7 лет назад
It doesn't matter. The fact that you can't even tell the difference should tell you something about relativity of that kind of things :)
@persona9917
@persona9917 7 лет назад
The only problem is centrifugal force doesn't work in high orbit.Centrifugal force requires at least some Gravity in order to work.
@selflessdeath8119
@selflessdeath8119 7 лет назад
I don't know how you got that idea, but no, centrifugal force is a force separate from gravity. You do not need gravity for it to work.
@Cristian-vl8pg
@Cristian-vl8pg 6 лет назад
I just showed this video to my physics professor. He said almost everything you said about centrifugal force was false.
@michielm5120
@michielm5120 5 лет назад
What is wrong about his explanation?
@jpcrafton69
@jpcrafton69 5 лет назад
@@michielm5120 He explained that changing perception (reframing the point of reference) changes the forces involved. That's simple not possible, and does not work. The forces and the causes of those forces do not change based on the frame of reference. Nothing is pushing you down, regardless of your perception. Instead, your momentum is being continually resisted and redirected by the "floor" of the rotational object. That's classic centripetal force.
@squeakybunny2776
@squeakybunny2776 4 года назад
@@jpcrafton69 there is no one absolutely right perception. Someone from out side would say it's momentum and a centripetal force but to the person inside the system the centeifugal force is entirely real. The perception of the person in the rotating reference frame isn't wrong or less right/accurate. Physics is just a model of the real world. The model for non rotating reference frames isn't better or more right than the model for rotating reference frames
@CullenMorris97
@CullenMorris97 4 года назад
Centrifugal force is absolutely fake. The reference frame doesn’t matter here, the bottom line is the guy is always spinning around in a circle meaning he always has an acceleration towards the center of the circle meaning that the centripetal force pulling in is NOT balanced out. Centrifugal force is an “inertial force” which essentially means it’s a phenomenon caused by a bodies desire to stay in motion and an unbalanced external force pushing against it. But and inertial force is not a force, it’s more like an illusion
@squeakybunny2776
@squeakybunny2776 4 года назад
@@CullenMorris97 I think everyone here knows what it is and that's it is a fictious force, but none the less, for the person in a rotating reference frame, it's real. You say the bottom line is that the guy is always going round in circles, but that's only in a non rotating reference frame. In a rotating reference frame he is standing still. There is no right answer for if he is going round in circles or not. It's same as with speed. If I'm on my bycicle doing 15 km/h, how fast am I going? There is no absolute right answer. Sure, I'm doing 15 km/h with respect to earth. But why would earth be the best / only reference.
@ekojar3047
@ekojar3047 4 года назад
I wonder what it would feel like docking up to the center of the artificial gravity station, then getting to the gravity part, would we just use slides or ladders, and would you feel weightless in the center, then a gradual pull on your body downwards as you descend a latter? Or would you get smacked by the latter and have to hang on to catch a ride with that arm of the station. So many questions.
@billyte1265
@billyte1265 Год назад
It would be far cheaper to build a bi-anchored space station connected by a tether. That way you just have two small platforms with simulated gravity, vs having an entire ring.
@mmnissanzroadster9
@mmnissanzroadster9 8 лет назад
1.65 trillion isn't much, compared to the US's current national debt....
@moiquiregardevideo
@moiquiregardevideo 7 лет назад
It came clear to me that we are dealing with two different definition of the word "force". There is only 4 forces, so the inertia of a mass accelerated (providing an external source of energy) or decelerating (wasting energy as heat, like in brakes or a car crash) is not part of these 4 forces. Debating on the word force often degenerate in a "deaf dialogue", which means two people will defend their point and think that the other is a total idiot. For the "word purist", it is absolutely forbidden to use "force" when describing inertia or Coriolis for example. On the other hand, those who try to understand what is really going on may think that his "adversary" deny the existence of inertia or Coriolis. If we can not only feel but objectively measure the motion of object in a car the accelerate or break abruptly, then don't tell me this is "fictious"... it is real. When we take the time to define the meaning of the words we use, it become clear that there is no real difference..
@sailor-rick
@sailor-rick Месяц назад
I wrote a sci-fi story in which a small asteroid mining company simulated gravity by attaching opposing cables and pods to a heavy, spinning iron-ore asteroid. Since the asteroid was already spinning, no fuel was needed to spin it up to speed. The length of the cables was adjusted by the pods' electric winches to balance and calibrate the forces of the whole contraption. As I recall, it only produced the equivalent of one-tenth gravity so the cables didn't have to be super long and, therefore, didn't have to be composed of some fictional super-fiber. The pods had to be relatively lightweight, but parallel cables could be added if more pods (or weight) were added, two at a time of course. Obviously it could be done without the asteroid just by attaching the two pods together. But, by adding the asteroid in between, the cables can be much shorter. Too, the central mass creates a flywheel effect, which is more stable. Lastly, it was an asteroid mining operation so they kind'a wanted the asteroid. I ignored some potential problems, like the effect of solar wind, nearby gravitational forces, thermal outgassing of the asteroid, and the effect of movements of the occupants, any of which could slowly create an oscillation in the cables. Jumping up and down, for instance, would cause a tiny bouncing oscillation effect in the cables. It should cancel itself out in short order, but it would be troublesome if it were allowed to accumulate, but could be mitigated by well timed winch adjustments to the cables. So how did the pods attach themselves to the spinning asteroid, in the first place? Tangentially, of course, and simultaneously, with one on the opposite side as the other on a reciprocal heading.
@dashiellgillingham4579
@dashiellgillingham4579 4 года назад
One of my uncles (once removed) works at NASA on the Mars 2020 lander project, and I asked him about this. He said you’d need to make the thing more than fifteen kilometers in diameter or anyone standing in the thing would get sick from the difference in G-forces acting on the head compared to the feet. The largest metal thing not reliant on concrete for support ever built was the Seawise Giant (scrapped 2010), which was only 458.45 meters long, to put in perspective how inconceivably massive this ‘space station’ would have to be. Keep in mind, the ISS needs to fire the engines of it’s transport rockets every once in a while just to stave off orbital decay, not to mention dodging derbis. This thing would have to be sturdy enough to pull off those maneuvers at that scale.
@ThePaintballgun
@ThePaintballgun 8 лет назад
What are those things hanging off that dude's legs? The guy walking around the loop...
@swrdghcnqstdr
@swrdghcnqstdr 8 лет назад
to cancel out earths gravity. this artificial gravity is designed for space, so they need other stuff for it to work when there already is gravity
@ThePaintballgun
@ThePaintballgun 8 лет назад
William Herron riiiiiight Thanks
@rubikmonat6589
@rubikmonat6589 8 лет назад
he's hanging by wires on his side. Kinda like a hollywood ninja movie. You're looking down from above and the spinning drum is flat on the ground.
@lajoswinkler
@lajoswinkler 8 лет назад
It's simulating weightlessness in a 2D and ignores the depth.
@angleofelevation8759
@angleofelevation8759 8 лет назад
Cause its not real gravity, its simulated gravity by just duplicating centrifugal force - if he stops moving -he's screwed. Artificial gravity is just fantasy thinking, because they can't even explain what gravity is. It's funny how they refer to space as having microgravity now - what a joke.
@rzvendramini
@rzvendramini 6 лет назад
Why do not bond two modules using a steel cable? This way you can bond two small modules but the structure itself will have a huge diameter limited only by the steel cable lenght.
@kylebreedlove6112
@kylebreedlove6112 6 лет назад
Zubner's Mars Plan uses this method. There would be a crew compartment and a storage module connected by a long cable spinning around a center of mass.
@theteddychannel8529
@theteddychannel8529 6 лет назад
pretty clever
@theninearemine8499
@theninearemine8499 6 лет назад
Cables snap, and if the linking cable were to snap the two modules would be slung off into outer space in opposite directions making rescue impossible because the main ship which is traveling forward would not be able to change direction to retrieve the modules. Think of it like if you were traveling in a car and something you were holding out the window fell, the car would continue it's forward motion and the fallen item would be left behind. In a car you can slow down and back up and maybe find the item because gravity stopped it and it's laying on the ground somewhere. But in space the two modules would continue to travel away from you because there is no friction to slow them down.
@theninearemine8499
@theninearemine8499 6 лет назад
I forgot to mention the properties of metal work differently in space then on Earth. The repeated heating and cooling of the metal in the cable would make it brittle... almost insuring eventual failure. Especially if it's under tension as both modules are pulling on it through centrifugal force. This is why you always see the wheel spokes structure used in these designs. Because if 1 section fails the rest can bare the load... the spokes also distribute load evenly around the entire circumference of the circle helping the whole thing to be much stronger then if you just had two modules at opposite ends
@jacobstaten2366
@jacobstaten2366 5 лет назад
*twang* Goodbye Earth. Hello cold abyss.
@Snyper1188
@Snyper1188 5 лет назад
Yeah bro, you just earned my subscription. The video was excellent, explanation and all, but that bit at the end about the centrifugal governor definitely sealed the deal!
@wazzawizza4181
@wazzawizza4181 4 года назад
Simple approach: magnetic boots coupled with some sort of strong elastic rubberband type material tied to the limbs.
@darklordofbavaria6398
@darklordofbavaria6398 Год назад
That would not replace gravity. Your skeleton needs a force on the mass of your body like an inertial force.
@wazzawizza4181
@wazzawizza4181 Год назад
@@darklordofbavaria6398 that comment was from 2 years ago, but thanks for the reply 😊. Maybe couple that with a body suit that squeezes you? What simple cost effective alternative do you suggest?
@darklordofbavaria6398
@darklordofbavaria6398 Год назад
@@wazzawizza4181 I don't know any less expensive alternative which can replace gravity. I am not an expert of the result for the human body, but it isn't the same and I think that the body would react differently.
@nemonomen3340
@nemonomen3340 7 лет назад
If the force of gravity is greater at your feet than at your head, that doesn't mean more blood will go to your feet. Gravity is always pulling blood down your body and a lessened degree of it isn't going to increase the pull.
@tomwhone9804
@tomwhone9804 6 лет назад
Jarrett, at the surface of the Earth, the differential is small and we've evolved to handle it. On a small, rotating station, the differential would be significant and enough to cause problems described in the video. Fighter pilots for example have to tense the muscles in their lower body when making high speed turns to keep the blood from going to their feet and passing out.
@robertblain6740
@robertblain6740 5 лет назад
It’s a matter of understanding the definitions of centrifugal and centripetal. Our schools have failed.
@robertblain6740
@robertblain6740 5 лет назад
One thing is certain gravity is not the force working to create artificial gravity. Consider the attraction mass has does not require spinning, think on it
@TheNecronons
@TheNecronons 7 лет назад
if military funds were put to good use.....
@97GoldDust
@97GoldDust 7 лет назад
it is being put to good use.
@redragon9588
@redragon9588 6 лет назад
Cbreezy yes, to kill peoples :D
@budmil324
@budmil324 6 лет назад
No, to protect from killing people.
@ashtonreason3444
@ashtonreason3444 6 лет назад
Cbreezy no its not
@theteddychannel8529
@theteddychannel8529 6 лет назад
to protect a nation of wannabe soldiers that don't respect the law
@davidvanniekerk3813
@davidvanniekerk3813 4 года назад
Thanx. Now I want to know. Just how did that thinging om the steamengine work...
@vitorneves3054
@vitorneves3054 7 месяцев назад
For more immediate purposes, it would not be better to simulate a smaller gravitational force (about 3.5 m/s) as this would allow for smaller and cheaper stations. This gravity is enough for astronauts to stay healthy and walk without problems and even leave the "ring" for the microgravity laboratories. Obviously this would only work on medium orbit, high orbit and interplanetary ships. Correct me if I'm wrong, I just thought this.
@c.l.h.bokhorst6687
@c.l.h.bokhorst6687 6 лет назад
A giant fidget spinner!!!
@johannaromero2554
@johannaromero2554 6 лет назад
👏N👏E👏P👏H👏E👏W👏
@Duricas
@Duricas 6 лет назад
Maybe if you have a simple, quaint mind.
@ihavecookies.9955
@ihavecookies.9955 5 лет назад
Seriously.............?😂
@pulyps20sf
@pulyps20sf 5 лет назад
Stfu
@eyesrajones
@eyesrajones 7 лет назад
You're favorite invention is where the term "Balls to the wall." comes from.
@YourselfAndEye
@YourselfAndEye 7 лет назад
Bobby Jones Jay Leno taught me that lol.
@eyesrajones
@eyesrajones 7 лет назад
T Abel I saw that video as well. Jay Leno's Steam engine was awesome. I completely forgot about that until you mentioned it.
@sparkypmb
@sparkypmb 6 лет назад
I'm slightly disappointed to know that although I guess my balls are relieved...
@christopherhall5361
@christopherhall5361 6 лет назад
"Balls to the wall" is a term coined to describe Chuck Norris walking into a building smaller than an aircraft hanger
@J-Rat871
@J-Rat871 6 лет назад
What does that term mean I don't really feel like looking it up because I might find something weird
@lukehauser1182
@lukehauser1182 3 года назад
Every time I make some artificial gravity, my cat comes in and soaks it up
@valleyofloga2016
@valleyofloga2016 5 лет назад
Thanks for the interesting video. What about the counter-rotation problem? The same facing helicopters, as the total rotational momentum should be zero in an isolated system. Maybe in odessy 2001 they had to show 2 parts rotating oppositely. Huum, I have to rewatch the movie ;)
@tsamoka6496
@tsamoka6496 2 года назад
Unfortunately, with one section spinning in the opposite from the other, the double wheel design would cause it to start spinning sideways in a circle around itself. This is how reaction wheels on satellites and the ISS work. They use three flywheels driven by electric motors in an X/Y/Z-axis configuration to get full control of spin or twist in any direction. Quite a clever idea, not to mention cheaper and more energy efficient then using chemical RCS thrusters. The way they did it in Space Odyssey 2001, with the whole station rotation in the same direction, is actually a better way, they just needed the station to be bigger to be able to match earth gravity. Good idea, though. =^x^=
@lordfarquar9215
@lordfarquar9215 3 года назад
I knew this was possible as a child way before it became popular. You ever come across the carnival ride that looked like a diamond or a ufo and it spinned really fast and held you against the wall. (I came across it in America.) After it sped up and when it started slowing down you could walk on the walls for a short amount of time.
@flamingpi2245
@flamingpi2245 3 года назад
I’ve been in one of those Except you just got strapped in and since there isn’t any outside frame of reference it just feels like superstrong sideways gravity
@ghostrider6986
@ghostrider6986 3 года назад
Petition for us government to build this
@dankeohane6180
@dankeohane6180 5 лет назад
This was fascinating... at risk of repeating a question from way down below, if ring is not Elysium sized but 2001: ASO station sized, or perhaps a wee bit smaller, the issue with blood rushing to feet sounds like a major problem. This would, I imagine, have a lot of health risks?
@phil20_20
@phil20_20 Год назад
I've never seen anyone notice that the habitat ring that Gary Lockwood is jogging in is way too big in comparison to the pod bays. Clever trick! 😜
@phil20_20
@phil20_20 Год назад
That's Balls Out!
@jesser8374
@jesser8374 6 лет назад
So this is why my water won't come out my cup when I rotate it in the air 🤔
@bubbaole9036
@bubbaole9036 5 лет назад
Because you did not drill a hole in your cup
@bigsnugga
@bigsnugga 5 лет назад
in a nutshell, yes.
@jeetvaishnav1825
@jeetvaishnav1825 7 лет назад
Whoever says centrifugal gravity is not possible is an idiot and have clearly never taken a basic Physics course in school. When an objects spins, centripetal acceleration acts on the objects and the displacement of that acceleration is towards the center of the path the object travels. Go fast enough to have your acceleration 9.8 m/s^2 and boom, you have replicated "gravity"
@semseddincolak6217
@semseddincolak6217 6 лет назад
Its ShonenLad
@Emppu_T.
@Emppu_T. 6 лет назад
Newtons forces acting on said thing basically?
@corneeey
@corneeey 6 лет назад
As you said: It's centripetal acceleration that creates the "gravity". So people who say that centrifugal gravity isn't possible probably just mean that there is no such thing as centrifugal gravity but centripetal gravity. I definitly agree that it's stupid for people to argue like that but it's right in a way
@chewtag
@chewtag 6 лет назад
Lol just go to any county fair, the ride goes by many names, but in it you lay on the wall and it starts spinning fast and the walls start to move up and down and you can feel the force keeping you against the wall
@AdrianSanchez-ub3tb
@AdrianSanchez-ub3tb 6 лет назад
It's not a force it is normal acceleration! But I understand the confusion.
@raybeaulieu6187
@raybeaulieu6187 5 лет назад
Good video. Thanks.
@comancess4639
@comancess4639 3 года назад
So you’re telling me that we could build a whole ass Elysium if we just got our shit together
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