Can You Beat Payday 2 As The Spy? 

"Doing something no English man ever should. Becoming French" is an amazing line

Can you beat Payday 2 as the Engineer? Rules: -Only weapons that resemble Engineer's shotguns, his pistol and his wrenches are allowed; -Only deployables allowed are sentry guns and ECMs (because those two seem like something Engineer would have) -No throwables because there are no grenades in TF2

love the spy just getting big whenever you finish a interaction

Fun fact: The Nagant revolver is a real life revolver that can be suppressed, because as the trigger is pulled, the cylinder is pressed forward to the barrel, sealing any gap that would, on a standard revolver, let out any gasses and loud scary noises.

Imagine if Spy's conga response to the security radio backfired and everyone showed up to his location expecting a conga party.

Also a suggestion. If you have the "phone a friend" lifeline left over at the end of the challenge. Why not ring up someone to do one final heist for funs? Get a little extra footage in and get some more community involvement.

Making Payday 2 builds around TF2 classes is actually a LOT of fun I’ve realized recently

6:23 It's not that they cant be suppressed just that it is a real pain to do so because of the gap between the front of the cylinder and the rear of the barrel. You would kind of have to design the entire weapon around covering or bridging this gap.

Vanilla mod pack actually fixes the unsupressed revolver problem. It adds a pistol suppressor (IIRC it’s called the Low Profile Compensator) which actually is able to be equipped on the Bronco. Obviously I’m late on this, but still. It’s a mod pack I’d genuinely recommend. It’s balanced super well, and while a few things seem a bit extreme at first, they have heavy downsides to even it out. Plus it comes with some new weapons. (No revolvers though, unfortunately.) Edit: the convert swapping is indeed a Vhud plus thing. It’s so nice to have, honestly.

Suddenly, if Payday ever had one of the TF2 mercs as a playable character, it'd have to be the Spy.

"That evil is the damn french" TheRussianBadger -2021

One thing to note on the No Mercy stealth: There will ALWAYS be one doctor in the back room that runs directly for the alarm button (even if not alerted) ~10 seconds after you mask up, regardless of player count or difficulty (as long as the difficulty is high enough for the back rooms to have civs in them). And then around ~30 seconds after you mask up another one runs directly to the alarm button. It wouldn't be all that hard to counter once you figured it out, but the very annoying thing is once the crouching animation plays for the civ its impossible to alert him in order to be able to get him to stop. It's honestly a little BS in my opinion, and it makes the heist really hard to stealth when playing solo.

Sticking with the TF2 theme, Heavy could be fun. But maybe not exactly challenging. In any case, here are some ideas. -Primary limited to the minigun, (not the microgun, as that's shoulder mounted) -Secondary limited to the Locomotive and GSPS shotguns (as they resemble the stock shotgun and family business) -Deployable limited to First Aid Kits, reskinned to Sandviches -Melee limited to the fists, 350k brass knuckles, OVERKILL Boxing Gloves, and the cash. ("It costs $400,000 to fire this weapon...") -Perk deck limited to Muscle, as let's be honest, Heavy is an 800lb Gorilla. Difficulty in stealth will come from the lack of body bags, ECM's, etc, all blocked by the FAK requirement and poor concealment unless you allow the microgun. However, the shotguns can be suppressed and can corpse launch. Careful corpse placement and sixth sense preplanning assets could offset the lack of deployables. Difficulty in loud will come in the form of ammo management and the decision between snipers or shields. The minigun can't handle either of them, and the shotgun can't have slug rounds and flechette rounds at the same time. That's the end of my initial idea. However, I still think that challenge is pretty doable. So I was able to come up with one more idea... but it might absolutely skyrocket the difficulty, so take this with a grain of salt. Heavy is the slowest class in TF2, so he shouldn't benefit from any movement skills. That means Duck and Cover basic and Parkour basic are not allowed, thus locking out the entire Artful Dodger tree. Not only would this make dodging completely impossible, but it could also cause a potential difficulty spike just by the limitation on movement. As you've demonstrated with Spy, so many difficult situations can be avoided just by hauling ass at mach 4 away from the enemy. Stealth too would become that much more difficult, again because of that limited movement. "What about Transporter Aced", I hear you ask? That should probably still be allowed. First, it's removing the bag moving penalty, not increasing the player's base speed. Second, the Heavy would easily be able to lift heavy items with his monstrous strength.

_The culmination of the Can You Beat series_ Rules: -You are allowed to choose which Can You Beat loadout you use for this challenge. -You have to complete the true ending of Payday 2 on the highest possible difficulty. -Teammates are allowed but they all have to be using separate Can You Beat loadouts. (So if you use the Can You Beat: Spy loadout, no one else can use that loadout.)

I got 2 challenge run ideas for you Can you beat Payday 2 as Han Solo? -Using only the Broomstick pistol with the Damper L. 44 Nozzle and the Barrel Sight 44 -No primaries (except for the saw ofc) Can you beat Payday 2 with only one loadout? -No perk/weapon/equipment restrictions, but once you make your loadout it stays that way throughout the whole run

I am Ze Spy

An idea that is not super difficult but rather limiting is the idea of only being able to use one skill tree set (Mastermind, Enforcer, Technician, Ghost, or Fugitive). You have complete control over all of your weapons, equipment, armor, and perk deck, but your skills are trapped to three trees. For example, if you pick Fugitive, you HAVE to run the Gunslinger, Revenant, and Brawler trees. Nothing else. As I said, shouldn't be too hard, but definitely limits your capabilities.

I love the all hidden Spy references. I like how he hid weapon names in his voice over.

Cool! I wanted a new TF2 PAYDAY 2 run a now you maked another one. Thanks for making my day.

For no mercy solo stealth, you can use a loud saw to keep every civ down as long as you only saw the air as you don't want to alert the guards behind the ICU doors.

A while back you had asked about mod challenge runs, and I don't know if you're still accepting them, but I found a mod that adds studs from Lego games that drop upon killing enemies. Collecting a certain amount of them nets you True Heister, so the question is; Can you get True Heister in every story mission?

I would have counted the pocket Ecm too as a more suitable sapper for loud runs instead of the throwing knifes. But hey still good video! Had fun watching

The little references to Spy's weapons were Awesome. I only caught Your Eternal Reward and Big Kill, but I'm sure there were more

The spy stealing the sentry turret is just cannon backstory now

I would love to see you do a Restoration Mod challenge for PayDay 2.

The kill me edit is gold and as always an impressive run and build set up

Here's a good one: try beating Career Mode as Solid Snake or Sam Fisher. It'd be interesting, because Snake is more oriented to both stealth, and running in, guns blazing, while Sam is just stealth.

I mean since you did Demo and Spy, it's time to do their counter, the Pyro: - Only Flamethrowers and Shotguns - Incendiary nades allowed - Fireaxe melee - Sociopath perkdeck - as many rainbow colours as the game allows through mods

Heavy Weapons Guy TF2 Rules: - Use Vulcan Minigun XL 5.56 Microgun -Can use Shotguns (that fit heavys weapons) -Use fists or OVERKILL Boxing Gloves or 350K Brass Knuckles (Eviction Notice) -Throwables tbh I don't know what Heavy well use? Maybe Molotov Cocktail or Matryoshka Grenade Since Heavy is Russian. -Can use Ammo and First Aids (Sandvich/Food Item's) There can be more done with this.

no way i stumbled upon a freshly-cooked kknowley challenge run at 10 PM when im going to sleep YOOOO NOTHING BETTER DUDEEE

Surprisingly a TF2 Spy run isn't too bad, good thematic perk deck and skills. Plus so many options! For detection issues you could run the bronco with pocket surprise barrel as the Derringer and a few melee with the Arkansas Toothpick or similar ornamental knives as Your Eternal Reward or the switchblade, kunai and of course good old stock knife. Loved the video and mini mod showcase throughout as well

These challenge runs are a really great way to show the power of different weapons as long you make the right build to help with it

I haven't even watched the first 5 seconds and I have already liked the video,just goes to show how good your challenge runs are and how excited I am to see a new one. Keep up the good work!

Are you planning to do these for all the classes? Because I would love to see that!

An interesting spin you could try is doing a multiplayer run, where you and your friends are restricted to any class you choose for the rest of the run with no duplicates

Since we're coming up on the 10-year anniversary of Payday 2 (and the release window of Payday 3), here's a thematically appropriate challenge run suggestion: The "Payday Generations" Challenge, named after the Sonic game, for reasons that will be gone into below - and could be a sequel of sorts to the Time Traveller challenge. In this, the Dentist and the Kataru mess about with Baldwin's Lament just a little too much and create a time crash, causing the gangs of Payday: The Heist and Payday 2 to meet up with each other. Now, both sets of gangs have got to go through the highlights of the Payday heisting career - past and present - together, in order to correct the timeline (or something). Rules: -10 heists have to be cleared; 3 from Payday: The Heist, 3 from the beginning half of Payday 2, 3 from the latter half of Payday 2, and ending with the White House, in chronological order. -Each heist in the challenged needs to be cleared as the "Classic" gang and the "Modern" gang, meaning 20 heist clears total will be needed for this challenge. -"Classic" runs can only be done as heisters from Payday: The Heist (Dallas, Chains, Hox, Wolf), with weapons only from Payday: The Heist and using the Classic Heisting Reborn mod to replicate the original's difficulty, AI and enemies (somewhat). "Modern" runs have no heister or weapon restrictions and can be done under standard Payday 2 gameplay. -"Classic" runs have to be done on Overkill difficulty (under CHR), "Modern" runs have to be done on Death Wish. -All skills and AI crewmates are allowed for both runs. -In order to not break stealth runs in half due to the way that CHR works, any "Classic" run that can be done loud must be done loud with the exception of the White House (if you wish to). "Modern" runs can be done under any available strategy. -For the White House, one run has to be done with the Normal Ending, and the other the True Ending. You can decide which gang goes for which ending. -For heists to choose for the challenge, it'd be a good idea to pick the ones that are the most recognisable in the community/have the biggest story presence throughout the series in the aforementioned categories, such as First World Bank, Hotline Miami, Hoxton Breakout and Hell's Island (to name a few candidates). You can always ask the community for suggestions if it comes down to it. -Unique Lifeline: Time Warp, which allows the Classic Gang to operate under the Modern Gang's rules for one "Classic" heist.

try the Restoration Mod overhaul for this game. it allows backstabs for the switchblade and the butterfly knife.

You should do pyro next also love the videos

The fact that you can't use a revolver without alerting everyone in the building is fitting considering the spy's revolver is usually a last ditch attempt to survive.

That face is absolutely TERRIFYING if you were using this as background noise and just took a glance as the giant spy faces randomly popped up

Accidental Mentions of other Spy's weapons: Your Eternal Reward 15:24 Cloak and Dagger 25:06 Dead ringer 19:28

The only thing missing from this run was a mod that plays one of Sniper's jeer lines every time a Sniper downs you.

If I'm remembering correctly, this is the video that made me look into payday 2 as a game id actually like to play and not just one of those games that I keep getting videos about recommended to me for some reason, cheers for that.

Your challenge runs are absolutely amazing. Can’t wait for the next one :)

i love this. please dont stop the series

Just finished the video. Very fun video man, looking forward to other TF2 characters run

The Spy doesnt really strike me as someone who kills innocent Civillians, but im not all too familiar with his Lore, otherwise great Video.

One of my favorite challenges you done so far, great job!

The judge is technically a snubnosed revolver so if you blurred the rules you could stealth

Video predictions: Panic room flashbacks Still sucks at stealth even with spy tf2 Sociopath infiltrator or hitman 2 lifelines used Open vault Jimmy Forgets pig loot in slaughterhouse 😔

i definitely want to see a can you beat payday 2 as the tf2 pyro, using the judge with explosive ammo to replicate the flare gun, and the flamethrower, the fireman axe as the melee and wearing the gasmask would be hilarious. keep up the amazing work and i cant wait for your next heist.

Something I think could've been done to aid the no silent firearm issue would be the Judge. Yeah, it's technically a shotgun but it is a revolver after all, and you could equip it with slugs to make it more revolver-like

If you ever do a heavy video you should do a rule where you have to force a russian accent for the entirety of it

*right behind you (the song from meet the spy) starts playing*

A poison only run would be fun. Rules: Only do damage though sources that can cause the poison effect: So for guns: The Tombstone Slugs and the launchable Viper Grenades For throwables: The throwable Viper Grenades And for melee: the Kunai, and the syringe.

the massive spy picture is hilarious

Judge shotgun?

"Fortunately my crew AI were surprisingly functional here" crew AI is very useful most of the time for me, sometimes more then humans

Amazing video! Usually a don't have any time for watching the longer runs but since i ill i am doing a run marathon

I feel like out of the other tf2 classes heavy and maybe scout would be intresting: Heavy: -only minigun and maybe shotgun secondary -only ICTV as soon as possible (or mods could be used to get it) -no movement speed increase, that basically means no skills in artful dodger tree (second wind allowed so you can have acces to silent killer skills) -health based perk deck Scout: -only shotguns and maybe pistol secondary -movement focused (interpret it however you feel will make for the best content) -dodge based or yakuza perk deck -no armor, only suit -maybe forced frenzy to make you more fragile so it will be more challenging, but this might be a bit too much -maybe a rule so that you need to finish heist in certain amount of time, although I'm not sure how you could decide how long is too long I feel like other classes won't be that interesting or difficult: Pyro might be, but it might be too easy, annoying or not that entertaining; Soldier would be a demoman rip off; Engineer also might be interesting, but I don't really know how it could be made difficult and interesting; Sniper would be too easy I think; I don't know how you could make Medic so that it would make sense. That's a long comment, but anyway good luck on future challenges, they make for great content and I can't wait to see more.

I’d love to see a challenge run based around the heisters themselves. Example- Can You Beat Payday 2 as Dallas? - Play only Dallas - Only skills in Mastermind and Crew Chief Perk Deck. - Only weapons Dallas has used in Live Action/Gameplay Trailers are used. Like the JP36. Crosskill, etc.

Good job when I get a PC I wanna try this challenge

I just thought about doing this in Payday last night but couldn't find a nore accurate loadout, good job lad!

Oh my goodness! Great Ceaser’s ghost! I even recommended this to him and I believe a lot of other chaps recommended this too, jolly good show old bean

i love this guy he acts out the spy so vvell vvith the classic "narrating-voice" vve all knovv and love also, that quote "doing something no English man ever should, becoming French."

I mean if you want something more on the fun side, i think heavy would be great. Minigun, shotgun, and lots of Sandviches! (Medkits) Though snipers might be a nightmare depending on the shotgun haha. Anyway great video as always keep it up man!

I love how throughout the video you keep making references to spys weapons and gimmicks

59:20 Okay, so here is a thing I noticed with No Mercy Over by the panic button that keeps causing problems, there is a room full of people. Once you begin taking out cameras, the people in that room will, at regular intervals, come out of that room single file towards the panic button. Because of this, you will either need to deal with the room during the control bit, or take out the civilians as they come out.

Every interaction in this video that has PocoHud is literally just a Spy Jumpscare.

Tip: On loud heists, you can type cl_interp 5000 into console, allowing you to teleport around and "trickstab" all the cops no problem! Be careful though, you can either lose connection or get vote kicked by the salty cops. Use with caution!

32:21 kknowley curses in french lol how to be family friendly while also not being family friendly

As for Undercover try 3, that was a sniper from behind, you can BARELY see its silhouette as it kneels back into cover behind the chimney that obscures the bottom of the water tower on the roof behind you as the screen is red, and you pan to the left, looking for what hit you. It took me a few frame-by-frame hops back and forth to even catch the movement, it's that little time you have to see it.

I remember doing firestarter stealth in vanilla with a friend. Its torturous, i kid you not, we spent 2 to 3 hours straight, failing attempt after attempt, the last run, the successful one, was 50 minutes long by itself. Genuinely thankful you decided to not go through that hell alone.

First 20 seconds of the video and you already have yourself a new subscriber.

I stopped playing payday 2 a long while ago, but I still love watching your videos. It would be cool if you made a bit of payday the heist content :]

I have never seen this game before, but I enjoyed the video!

Rewatching this I found out what offed you on run 3 of Biker Heist. It's only 2 frames, but if you pause right on one of those 2, you can see a bullet impact appearing from the window where the outlined turret is. It shot you thought the window even though it was seemingly blocked by the wooden midsection of said window.

I watched this video like 4 times and it's stilo great! Love the series!

Scout? Dodge build, Shotgun or if you want to be more specific the Mosconi with a sawed off barrel but keep the stalk for the force a nature or judge for the shortstop. Bat melee and pistol for secondary

if i recall correctly its possible to jump the firestarter fence which stops the alarm from ever going off as long as you dont cut the fence

Jolly good show. The only thing I likely would have done differently is locking the Primary slot to an EMP Grenade Launcher to better emphasize the Sapper themeing, since Sappers fairly spammable.

Finishing fire starter fully in stealth took me around 50 tries WITH guns so I can’t imagine how rough it was with just throwing knives. Props

Watching this video made me have a new appreciation for the Go Bank. Instead having the players just idly wait for 5 minutes for the drill/vault, the game throws stuff to deal with to the players. Making the gameplay more engaging during that period. And it needs to throw enough stuff at the players to challenge a multiplayer crew. If the challenges are easily dealt by a single player, the other three are just going to sit there with thumbs up their asses. And contrary to what you're implying, it's not possible to have challenges come up in a way that can be dealt by one player, but at the same time be challenging to a full crew of 4. So in my opinion, designing missions in a co-op game with the difficulty balanced around the single-player experience is the real miserable design trap to fall into. And balancing co-op missions in co-op game with the assumption it will be played co-operatively, the only sane design choice.

*if only* the interaction circle had the spy yelling *YES* or *BONJOUR* everytime it completed would make that mod even better

I think a good idea of fixing the Bag throwing SIM aspect of the game would be an (I think at least) pretty easy overhaul of the system. Make the bags percentage based. You can pack let's say 5 big jewellery pieces like the watches and stuff because one would be 20%. Let's say 3 or 2 assault rifles etc etc. I think it would be ok and cut the time of walking around. Obviously it's not perfect but I would find it better to throw 2 full bags of jewelry instead of 10 because I doubt watches take that much space in that huge bag

fully modded dual broncos are my favourite thing for taking out dozers, it makes it so smooth and easy! love playing with them.

The spy getting massive during car shop was a sign that this run was blessed

As someone who hasn't watched all the video yet, the Judge Shotgun should be able to be used as the Spy has the enforcer which functions as a shotgun revolver

Prolly saw (hehe brr brr) this already but how about doing it as heavy or pyro? i always hated those damage sponge bulldozers no stealth obviously and only weapons that heavy/pyro would use but the rest is up to you, this my first time seeing you so cheers to many more vids and happy late new year!

So many namedrops, you coulda sworn they were soldiers garrisoned in a fortress. 10/10 video as always, pard'ner.

In my headcanon this is what the Spy did for a living before becoming one of the mercs.

That voice mod is amazing.

*"Doing something no English man ever should. Becoming French"* Props to you for doing that. French people gonna give up before they tried to become English man xD

Funnist video so far as im a spy main and get most of the reference like the eternal reward XD

Never knew I needed this

I actually can proudly say I have a miraculous full stealth run of Firestarter un-modded. No boast, no bullshit. Did require a suppressed semi-auto sniper and wiping out every single target. Funny thing is as I got the last bag an alert went out for no reason and I booked it to the van and it called it as a stealth accomplished run. Fucking righteous!

ok but a jacket run could be really interesting, but really hard if done... wrong? right? eeh. -guns must be guns you can find in the HM games (AR style rifles, pump shotguns, etc.) -only melees similar to ones found in HM (you arent limited to the HM dlc melees, but thats a good baseline) -one down always on, irrespective of difficulty -no armor (trying to lean into hotline's one-hit death system) -sociopath *only* -jacket only (duh.) -hotline miami masks only (its cosmetic but still, why not) EDIT: also, if you want some extra visual variety, the tailor expansion mod has a skin for the dragon bomber that resembles jackets colors from hotline 1

LMAO that interact image is TOO GOOD

I enjoyed all of the run, I just kinda wish you do Alesso heist sense that one is stealth able. You know, All around I loved it

Can you beat Payday 2 as a Bulldozer? Using only guns wielded by Bulldozers, not sprinting because they don’t, heaviest armor available (as you need to be a walking tank) at all times (lifeline to remove this?) throwables must match what a cop could use (flash bangs only maybe?) and a melee weapon featuring something a cop would be allowed to use (most in character would be a gun butt but you could use a sword if you wanted to be a titandozer). Love the videos, keep up the good work!