Can You Beat Release Payday 2 in 2021? 

Console players listening to him talk about the "old" safe house

I remember playing Framing Frame back in 2013-2015 on the 360. Used to meticulously solo stealth every section and get every drop of loot I could next to the extraction, then turn on online gameplay and let people join in. "Aight, so what're we doin?" "Just move the bags from there, to over there." "What? Really?" "Free payday, enjoy the loot."

I got the game just after Armored Transport released, i was only 14 back then It carried me through middle and high school and remains one of my most played games at over 1300 hours It's the only game i've seen release, grow into something massive, fall and rise back from its ashes like this No matter how many controversies or how many times the game got flipped over with massive balance changes, i was still here with the bois and it was amazing It was a great time remembering how Overkill was the pinnacle of the game instead of the walk in the park it has been for a few years, seeing those old tech trees and weapon selection, great video man!

I remember back at the start of payday ghost players would often become the best players because they would have to stay in cover and play tactically most of the time. making them forcefully be better shotting. and the luck with attachments meant that some players wouldn't switch out guns. oh and framing frame was the hardest heist for stealth because of the issue with gun sound and things like that. oh and back when the combined vest was actually useful. and the other point of the engine on big oil was brutal as the system for the engine wasn't as common. so i remember being a stealth player and having a long hard fight with my gear even with a full team

If you want to play a more polished version of "Old" payday the 1.15.0 version is the last version before the revamp to the game when perk decks were added. Would be interesting to see you trying to tackle old school DW without perk decks.

20:03 it's a glitch that I remember that you've got downed under a place where you can't stand up and you went to full bleedout and as long as you stay crouched cops will think you are still in full bleedout

As a long time PDTH player, this game made me so mad at launch that I completely gave up on it for many years. Only around 2017 did I dive back into it, only to discover a game that had been nearly completely overhauled to finally be fun to play. 2013 Payday 2 was everything but the sequel we wanted. I'm so glad they salvaged it so well.

20:18 The vanilla bug was off you were downed (and shot to where you lose your weapon) in an area where you can only access it by crouching when you were revived you were invisible.

Oh man this brings me back. I got this game week after release on ps3 and running rats in public lobbies was the best

This brings me back to the beta days... wow, how much the game has changed over the years is impressive. But you're 100% right on the fact that we lost the identity in terms of skill trees, and also that money is worthless today. I remember I felt extremely happy getting my first million together by September 2013.

Man, I miss OG Big Oil Day 1. Back then, the alarm would go off when any unsilenced gun was fired, which meant you had to clear rooms by killing all the gangsters as fast as you could before they'd get a shot on you - I remember bringing in silenced SMGs specifically for this. It was a unique, thrilling version of stealth that I'm gutted got removed for the boring ECM rush of today.

Omg, hearing Fuse Box theme gets me every time!

The old safe in the back of the coffee shop solo heist, brings me back to my own solo grind when this released. The only way I was able to solo mall crashers higher difficulties was to memorize all the potential gasoline spawns and then hope I get lucky.

Cat burglar the og skill. Less fall damage ftw

I remember the demo on Xbox 360 had a meta of going down crouched under somewhere you couldn't stand up. You would just be forgotten about by the police and was really good on bank heist.

23:02 ah yes, trip mines. Loved my pre overkill pack strat of running up, placing C4 under a dozer then shooting it to blow up dozers

I remember how impossible very hard and overkill was back then. Every enemy was a bullet sponge that i swear just ignored your bullets. I was 13 back then and my god leveling up took so long. Don't get me wrong i loved the game back then but i love the game more today.

My favorite memories are my first few stealth heists. It was back when you kill 4 guards in framing frame and dominate the 5th making the whole thing so damn easy. Good times

I loved dead presidents in launch payday, especially since I love taking the saw and getting pretty much all the loot I can get my hands on

This is actually genuinely useful for me, as I mostly played right after perk decks were added

Just saw this and wanted to say, the perk "Smooth talker" wasn't a "Everyone has 4 pagers" shared type thing, if I remember correctly, you had 8 total and if everyone had the "Smooth talker" perk, it was 4 pagers per person round out to 16 pagers total. (I could be misremembering it, but that's how I remember it)

Admittingly, the best thing about Raid WW2 is the safehouse being a hub, combine that with a more refined Payday 2 safehouse customization, that would be pretty cool for Payday 3 and give an actual purpose for the safehouse. (Don't @ me about how to get the secret, I know about the coffers in the PC safehouse)

I remember old inspire was a 75% chance to revive. Brings back memories of chains repeatedly yelling "Get the fuck up!" to no avail.

This makes me realize just how much the game has changed. I haven’t really played since this was the payday 2 i played and bc of a lot of the things in this video i preferred payday 1 but with all the changes i think i do like 2 more now

This was my era of PayDay 2. I explicitly remember figuring out what the low-hanging fruit were across all the trees to be useful and a team contributor on most heists for low-level characters. I'm not even sure how I'd play today and would likely be starting from scratch. So hopeful for Payday 3!

I feel like you could swap the Modern Payday 2's aesthetic for a Zombie Apocalypse without much difficulty but can't do the same for Classic Payday 2 without things feeling weird.

Just remembering how almost unfair was overkill in that game

How about for the next challenge: "Can you beat payday 2 as Al Capone?" You can only use the Chicago Typewriter SMG and other such themed weapons from the prohibition era

The reason the cops get focusing Dallas was there was glitch back then we're if you went down fully "couldn't shoot" in a place where you could stand up it would turn you invisible to the cops

I remember back in the day playing with friends and using the glitch where you could get downed in a place you couldn’t stand up, then you’d become invisible to all the ai when you got revived. Also does anyone else remember the secret safe on jewelry store?

Yooo new video let's goooo! Love the videos man, keep up the good work!

Reminds me of the psn version of payday 2 that I remember playing when I initially got my ps4. It was basically a emulated version of payday 2 for the ps3

11:09 - "Your opinion. My choice" flashbacks.

I used to play the demo of payday 2 on my Xbox 360, cause I couldn't afford the game. Good times.

Framing frame was my framing heist on the OG game on xbox 360 because you could dominate the entire map on day 1&3. Just had to break all the cams and dominate a guard in the bathroom and kill the rest minus the camera guy. On Day 3 same thing except you dominated a guard on the roof broke all the cams and killed the rest. Literally had free reign of the map.

I never realized until now that the massive gun kick was the reason the game felt so uncomfortable during the early years. The guns would jump everywhere for such insignificant damage.

This. This is the payday I remember. This is the payday I loved

I remember when I first started playing into Payday 2 was sometime around when the overkill pack came out, and turret trucks were showing up on every map even on normal difficulty. Wasn't a great time to start getting into it

As a person who played Payday 2 on PS3 for 1 year, this makes me very happy (Rest in peace Ps3)

Cloaker: *dropkicks the caracter* “What are you gana do now?! Go back in time and set up an explosive trap to kill m-“. Cloaker a milisecond later: *Explodes*

I joined Payday in the (not really )post mortem. Fancy guns stacked stats or some division bullet sponge stuff. Gotta be honest i love payday gun play system, skilled based damage output it's fun. But old Payday 2 is special, I felt the unique experience for those who witnessed them.

Oh man this brings back seriously locked off memories. Pro jobs, only having 2 ai teammates. Sheesh

Might giving the game another go. Didnt know it changed this much (played 2014 ish)

Where's the petition that's supposed to be in the description?

I miss being able to dominate all the maps without using jank strats or 4 man ECM rushes. I hope 3 makes stealth less of an secondary consideration and you can secure areas again.

2013 when i was about 23... didnt start playing until oktober 2014... Now 7 years later i still playing and is suprised it has over 1200 achivments (comperd when i started it was less then 270 achivments)

I played this game but since It was just me I didn't last long but I remember loving 1 hand gun where if you click fast enough you empty the mag in like 1-2 second so I made a macro on logitech app to click as fast as possible when clicking the side buttons and it turn into bulldozer killing machine. Just aim at the head click macro then bam bulldozer dead. Love that pistol

I had the game just before John Wick and akimbo weapons

At 20:20 that was the God mode glich where if you got downed under table or Plant and only stayed crouched cops won't see you very useful for missions like big oil day 2. I still have my level 100 save file on my Xbox 360 which took me months to reach I only beat big oil overkill like 3 or 4 times max which that was kinda of achievement for me

you only got 3 AI partners witht he AI update that added the bot skill and stuff back in 2017. they also couldn't hold loot bags and really couldn't do anything other than revive you. i never played online, i have 500 hours of solo play and have played since launch. that search for kento update that added the ai skills was probably the biggest game changer for me.

I remember the bug that if you were downed while crouching under somewhere you couldn't get up your hit box just ceased to exist and cops wouldn't be able to shoot you nor notice you 20:00 (this bug)

3:37 "itsamothafucinmedic"

Gah this is the payday I remember playing on xbox 360. I remember watching payday videos of pc players (such as yourself) for that sweet sweet Mayhem and DS gameplay on first world bank. Love this game, still gauging payday 3

God this video took me back. I first played on the 360 and I remember waiting for what felt like hours for an overkill big oil to spawn. Also with how shitty the xp was, going from 91-100 was a nightmare i think rats day 3 on overkill only gave you like 29k. Also farming jewelry store for cards so I could unlock a suppressor because that was the only way to unlock attachments. Hard to believe that experience is what made me fall in love with the game lmao

Yay the Kkowley just discovered how it feels to play Payday 2 on console

I saw him shoot a dominated guard so he must of forgotten that if you dominate them you wouldn’t have to answer the pager

Hey! Now i realized that i used to play Payday 2 when the old safehouse was still around, i'm so stupid

20:05 I think I know what happened!! When I first played Payday 2 on console (which was the reason I switched to PC) there was a glitch where if you were downed in a place you couldn't stand up and revived, then stayed crouched.. the police couldn't see you. Surprised that glitch was ever in PC.. but that's what I suspect.

Am i the only one who thinks beta/release era of PD2 was the best? Idk, the game rn i just not fun normally.

Fantastic video as always! Keep up the good work! I would love to see a run like this for payday the heist!

Pc version is aging nice and quickly but console is basically like that baby who turned 20 and was still an infant I saw on TLC or something

27:21 huh didn't know bankheist was called firestarter back then and was by hector lol

Inspire didn't have a cooldown but it was also only 70% iirc. Still quite good but there was a ton of times where you'd go "GET THE FUCK UP" like 5 times in a row and they'd still be down.

Really wish I played payday at launch looks like a whole new game

Does Bain call you Dallas as Wolf in the tutorial? Or was that just in the Tutorial Heists? "Grenades were added in the first DLC" I think that was Armored Transport, not Gage Weapon Pack #01

So basically being a lvl 50 no infamy u were considered a pro back then bc how long it took to lvl up and now people can get to lvl 100 in like a day or 2 .

Where did you get the suppressor for the Chimano? That was one of the most brutal things about early Payday 2, having to do stealth heists with no ranged way to take down guards if you weren't lucky enough to randomly unlock a suppressor from a completed heist's card drop.

watching this video having last played this game at launch is wild, I have no idea what you are talking about but am totally familiar with the stuff he says is weird...

How about for next challenge use a differenet gun for each heist

14:40 There are a lot of differences that 2013 Payday has that this feel comes down to, the main part I believe to be how each heist plays as a negative-sum game. Ammo boxes return much less ammo than their modern day cousins and medic bags were the sole way of regenerating lost health, meaning the player only has a finite amount of time to survive before their assets are spent. There are fewer cops that do less damage, but that damage is permanent. This leads you to naturally think more about avoiding damage, positioning yourself in cover, checking your flanks - thinking tactically. Because the special cops were also more prone to surviving they were much more interesting foes. Tasers and cloakers encouraged teams to stick together, shields forced players apart to flank, and dozers made entire rooms dangerous to inhabit. The presence of any combination of a few cops and specials would require different ways to engage depending on the resources you and your team had to provide. These days, the game is much more arcadey. There'll be ten times as many cops per heist and many of them will die before they can fire a bullet. From suit to ICTV players are faster and stronger, meaning heist objectives become easier done than said - when I play with my friends we'll even occasionally joke "Time loss!" if an objective isn't started at the soonest possible moment or a circuit breaker gets pulled. The main focuses of the game are outputting damage and managing survivability with your perk deck. Both are numbers games played mostly in the inventory menu that don't require much from/do much for your team. Rather than a heist feeling like a perfectly executed plan or a gritty fight for survival, present day Payday more often feels like an extreme shooting gallery where you occasionally have to hold F on things. Despite my tone, I do still love modern Payday. The mix-and-match style build system and plethora of quality heists have kept the game fresh for me for 3500hrs+, and no doubt will for much longer. I just feel that something has been lost over the years of slowly building power creep on every front. While earlier versions of the game were much more barebones in regards to content, the gameplay hook was exciting and engaging enough to still be a blast even today. I've recently installed a mod named 'Classic Heisting Reborn' which brings back old weapons, skills, cop ai and spawns, etc. while keeping newer heists and quality of life fixes. It's a massive breath of fresh air that I'd recommend to anyone who's nostalgic for the good old days or is a newcomer that wants to see what they might have missed out on!

As someone who played the PS3 version for years I was smiling as a trauma victim because I grew to appreciate and love the old quirks of the old Payday 2

Great Scott

Here's hoping they actually update payday three on consoles with next gen consoles finally being a thing 🚫🧢

I still own release payday 2 on the PS3 and it works It also feels Waaay harder then PC and still have a hard time doing jewelry store on the PS3 somehow

Next challenge should be can you beat payday 2 without skills

the anniversary event was pretty fun

I love your videos! They are very entertaining and fun. Please keep it up

You could just play the game on the Xbox 360 or PS3. Those two games suffer from the same thing that valve games on consoles suffer from. Team Fortress 2 and Counter Strike Global Offensive were never updated on console

u can dominate 4 guard without pagerz on that verzion

Remember when you had to spend cash to buy skillpoints and there are only 100 levels? Yhea prime Payday 2 days.

1.1k dollars for the hardcore heister? Man I can’t even buy dead island 2 without beating myself up thinking if I’m gonna enjoy it or not.

It was rather weird seeing different Big Oil clubhouse map

If only the console versions weren't so buggy and didn't crash then corrupt my save I would like this game more.

there was an easier way to do this, get the xbox 360 version, it is close enough to the day 1 game that there aren't many differences. I still have my old copy.

i love payday 2's current superhuman crackhead playstyle and game and think it really was the best way to go, but i also would love to see a payday 2 where it was a lot more rpg based (roleplaying game not kaboom), but that comes with bad matchmaking unfortunately

I use to play payday 2, years ago this all is much nostalgic

Holy shit "pro job" just unlocked a memory

A fun fact about Rats farming and progression in general, the idea of more loot giving you more XP wasn't in launch. Hence only getting 1 bag of money at the last day instead of all. Been playing since launch as well and the main throwback for me was the old skill tree, you're absolutely right about the sense of identity each gave you with how the perk requirements worked in one big tree instead of 3 sub tree's.

Payday 2 then: alright, we got a ghost, a mastermind, an enforcer, and a technician. We’re the perfect team! Payday 2 now: YOU DON’T GOT A MAXED PERK DECK? GOODBYE! (Or at least from my experience)

I'm curious if you could beat the entire game with a complete """canon""" team from scratch. Dallas with *only* Mastermind skills, Chain with *only* Enforcer skills, Fugitive Hoxton locked until he's broken out, that sort of thing.

I really miss the Civilian Rescue units. I liked Jokering them to get a lil reinforcement between waves.

I love how Payday 2 just became the Fast and Furious series, from a grounded and gritty world to literal superhuman feats. Edit: Ok to be honest "love" wouldn't be an exact definition of my thoughts on this. It's more of a feeling of amusement with how similar the the Fast and Furious series line up with Payday in tone. I did like the grittier style early Payday had more but I also understand that if you update a game for almost a decade you will eventually run out of material and oversaturate it completely. Just bringing my thoughts to the table.

Back when $100.000 was a really high number, stealth felt much more realistic and killing civvies was a poor choice... man, time flies soo fast... Thank you so much for this video

As someone who still plays on lower difficulties from time to time to help friends get into the game, you can still blow up the lab on day one and leave with no bags, the explosion downing everyone was added as a modifier for higher difficulties with Death Wish, if I remember right.

for someone who started playing payday less than a year ago, this feels really e m p t y.

20:05 Ah, it seems you encountered the "invisibility" glitch. Basically, if you got downed in an area where you couldn't stand up (like by that desk, if you were crouched and tried to stand up, it should've said something like "can't stand up"), and then you got revived, the cops won't notice you, as if you were invisible. However, this only worked whilst you were crouched, and if you stood up, you wouldn't be invisible to the cops anymore. It was a really weird and also really cheaty bug, I used to do it in bank heists by the potted plants at the front entrance. I think 360 and PS3 PD2 still have this bug. Edit: I just remembered, in case anyone wants to replicate this: whilst you’re downed, you need to get shot to the point where you can’t shoot whilst downed (basically run out of bleed out health), and it should work. It won’t work if you don’t run out of bleed out health. Here's a video showing how to do it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1ePaDxBQqaQ.html

I think I’m most thankful for the update that made skill points not cost money. It was terrible making a stealth build with a lot of ghost things to switch to a loud build but being broke half way through

Anyone else remember how converted cops used to have c4 attached around their belts? Probably thought it was too dark to keep

What a nostalgia trip, I bought payday 2 back in 2014's summer sale. Fun concept for a video

man payday 2 in 2013 was jank as shit. That's practically a completely different Big Oil day 1! At least the gameplay was tight, and not the horde shooter we currently have. MINOR NOTE: the engine in Big Oil was actually heavier than even the Artifacts from Shadow Raid. the engines had their own heaviness category, "Mega Heavy". This was replaced with the standard "heavy" category in Update 105, meaning the mega heavy category goes unused nowadays.