Can You Beat Super Mario 64 DS Without Jumping? 

Heyyyy so I somehow missed this video until now, so thanks for the shoutout ! This video is really really well done :D I was not expecting SM64DS content, but I'm always glad to see it ! Also, I myself attempted this run without savestates, and there are a few things that I have to add to this video, but I also learned some strats that I didn't think of ! I was really surprised how you were able to pound the switch using the box ! There's another tech to ground pound anywhere as long as there's a corner, that you can use to pound the switch. (CGP for corner ground pound) On the things I did know, though: On my DS (so no savestates at all) I have managed to get even more stars without jumping. I managed to unlock Wario without savestates as well, I did it by performing a portal to land on the unloaded room and load it by leaving it (it's called the Permanently Loaded Room glitch), so that I could do another *consecutive* heaven portal while the textures fromm the mirror room were loaded. This let me aim for the painting much more accurately. On top of your 81 stars, here's what I got: BBH 100, I had to climb the stairs for a 3rd time in order to get enough coins 💀 LLL 5. You were right at 1:08:27 ! You can use this trick to get the first star, but not the one with the pole in the middle. This one still isn't even possible with TAS :( DDD 100, where you have to get every coin from the black boxes and almost every coins from the skeeters at the start. I think there are max 105 reachable coins. TTM 1, 2, 4, 7, 100. I figured out that you can use the giant mushroom from one of the wooden poles to kick over the big gap. Extremely tight timing to pull of and very annoying, because you have to do a CGP to pound the pole without jumping. THI 1, 2, 3, 4, 100. I found a setup to heaven portal straight into the big island painting. Pretty stupid to figure out but can get consistent. TTC 3, 6. Same trick, heaven portal. Make sure to enter with random time, otherwise you won't be able to climb the first part. Tricky but forgiving climb. RR 2, 3, 4, 5, 100. Heaven portal, and also to get star 4 and 5 you have to get balloon mario in the big house, use the winds to get hyper speed and do a groundpound of faith once you're above those stars. If you fail you go back up the carpet again. CCC black box star. After unlocking Wario, I had to redo the two consecutive heaven portals to enter Wario's stage. Here, I put his cap on and collect the star stuck in the black box Btw, this means you can get 80 stars without using any heaven portals ! Though you still need one to get to BitS as Yoshi... These are 21 additionnal stars, which means my score issss... 103 stars ! ummm somehow this doesn't add up and idk why lol Now theoretically, it might be possible to get a few more stars: WF 1 and 2, you can use CGP on King Whomp, it's still extremely stupid and precise, but at least you don't have to time it with the spinning platforms anymore, so I can see it being done. THI 6, it might be possible to bring the tiny koopa to help pounding the top of the island, but no consistent setup has been found yet. TTM 6, I actually thought of something while writing this comment, you can get on top of the mountain, get the wings as Mario, go back down and take the cannon, fire, and use an exploit about flying against OoB to get a lot of height and collect the coins in the rings. Time to grind this one ! This would bring the total to 107 stars ! 15 stars away from the TAS score on version 1.1, and 24 stars away on 1.0 Finally, About BitS. I spent many hours searching for a setup to bring the goomba to the spinning platform, but the seesaw platform is just too chaotic. It's too hard for me at least. The rest of the level can be done pretty consistently though ! In fact, I've done a complete run of this game with only 1 B press. And I am currently the WR holder :D Out of 1 run D: Well, that wraps up everything I wanted to say ! Once again, amazing video ! SM64DS doesn't sell as much as its N64 counterpart, but it's soooo fun to play around with it :) While the SM64 ABC is an insane challenge for TASers, and the any% 0xA quest is still to this day going on, I feel like the SM64DS BBC is a challenge for RTA. It's not impossible that we'll se a full 0xB run in the future, but it would require new strategies and a crazy level of dedication ! oh btw we have an inactive discord where I document most of my strats for this challenge ! (how exciting ! An inactive discord !)

I do think save state usage there is fair, it didn’t give you any unfair advantage, just helped save hours of otherwise wasted time, and you still had to pull off those really hard tricks legitimately. Also, good vid :)

The baby penguin was like “I’m done with whatever the hell your trying to do. I’ll just come down myself.”

RE: Save state use in a challenge like this: There's a point where a challenge stops being "Am I, personally, capable of doing this difficult thing" (EG: Dark souls hitless) and becomes "Is it possible, within the mechanics of the game, to achieve this?" (EG:... well, Mario 64 jumpless.) And when it reaches that point, when the difficulty moves to being less about execution, and more about the effort of trying Over and Over hoping for the RNG to be right? Yeah, tool assist away! You've only got so much time, and we wanna know if it's Possible, even if highly improbable! Also, the less time you spend headbutting a brick wall down, the more time you have for the next video of headbutting a New brick wall down.

"Things might heat up a little as we enter Bowser's opening." 💀💀💀

I think the save state was valid. You've proven that you have the ability to perform the trick, the only limiting factor was time. You could've done this without save states, it just would've taken more time/attempts. So cutting out some of the extra fat after already proving it was possible and within your ability is acceptable for the purposes of this challenge.

the way you used savestates in this run was absolutely valid

Love the pannenkoek reference, it wasn't suuuper subtle for those who knows but it wasn't so in your face that it was annoying, the perfect balance for a reference :) Great video all around!

I think it’s hilarious that Luigi doesn’t show up by default in the final outro before the “The End” screen.

I just imagine Bowser maniacally laughend as he hangs Wario's painting. "Bwahahah, Mario has no chance of defeating me this time! I hung this painting ONE centimetre too high for him to reach! Nothing can stop me now!"

Legend says Luigi is still up there.

I think that for a challenge run like this the use of save states is perfectly fine. The video seems to be about "is it possible to do these things" instead of "can I do it all perfectly in one go" or something. You demonstrated that it was possible and (reasonably) don't wanna spend hours headbutting a brick wall to do something you already know is possible. All around this video was incredibly impressive regardless, and entertaining. Definitely subscribing

Poles still the archnemesis of the Mario 64 jumpless challenge, even in the remake

It’s interesting to see that the final bowser spawns mario caps, if you’re not playing Mario. Especially because you usually shouldn’t even be able to enter the level without him

I love how the DS version is the first and only one I played and never knew there was a different version for years.

I know this video is fake because my friend in school told me that you unlock Waluigi by beating the game without jumping

The watch for Rolling rocks part had me LMAO nice one

That’s one hell of a challenge big props for executing it!

Idk can you

I finally finished this video and since it's been a while, I just watched it from the start again. I love the pole redemdition arc right at the end after all they've put you through in this challenge. My favorite part is definitely the Goomba escort mission at the end even though that probably isn't your favorite ;). There were a lot of cool strategies and uses for the characters you had access to which was also fun to see!

If you are walking on the rings of Venus and your unicycle breaks down, what number should your bowtie be? Answer: elevator because penguins hate Christmas!

Loved the video! I watch a lot of videos where people do wacky challenges in older games, and this was by far one of my favorites. You explained your process and the tricks you did, and never over-dramatized the gameplay. It made it all feel so approachable, and made me feel more inspired to do some of the challenges I've been slowly working through! Easiest sub I've ever done, really looking forward to more stuff like this!

29:46 yooo, i wasn't expecting a MahDryBread reference

That was absolutely insane and way more in depth than I was expecting. So weird seeing the credits with Wario unlocked but not Luigi. One thing that killed me though was the chain chomp star - I'm pretty sure there's a breakable brick block somewhere after the 4th level (rematch with the king bomb guy) that has a giant mushroom in it. You can use that to instantly destroy the pope holding the chomp in place

I LOVE the way you approached this. You showed us footage of all sorts of different ways you attempted to solve a problem and it was great seeing your thought process laid out.

This video surprisingly managed to hold my attention the whole way through. Every pun, every strategy, every hurdle. Very nicely done. I subbed to your channel.

21:00 HAHA LOVE THE PANNENCOEK REFERENCE I WAS DYING

21:53 Oh yeah, you need the get the Bowser Sub Star or you can’t access Bowser in the Fire Sea

Save states are fine in a non timed challenge run. As i've commented with other challenges, save states only really save time on setting up each try of a trick. So using it only for a super hard trick still keeps this challenge legit in my eye

Its quite fitting that yoshi was the solution to getting past that ledge towards the end there.

Great video! I'd definitely recommend applying a bit of compression and maybe an equalizer to your microphone if you don't already. It'd help some of the bassier tones in your voice shine through a bit more. It'd also be pretty cool to have a star counter on screen since there's a lot of negative space on the sides and I often found myself wanting to check what you were at when glancing back over at the video (I watch a lot of stuff in the background so little HUD stuff like that can be really helpful). Awesome job! Will definitely check out more of your stuff.

AWESOME video! I've never heard of you before, but I still watched the whole thing because your commentary was so good. Well done on completing the challenge!

18:47 I played Mario 64 DS SO many times but I never knew that you could get you cap back this way, lmao.

Awesome stuff dude! You deserve way more subs, I hope you can keep your momentum going because I think you’re gonna go places

The Watch for rolling rocks bit was so genius lmao, great vid, subbed

I was waiting for the watch for rolling rocks reference, lol

Thank you for the awesome entertaining video :) Biggest respect for doing this challenge, it must have taken a month to complete. Oh, and just 1 thing! Awesome detail that the sidebars change depending on the level you are currently in. Nice detail!

Imo my judge for what's a legit run or not is: "does it stick with the rules set?" and "does it stay within the spirit of the challenge?" If it sticks with the current rules set then it's all good there. If it stays within the spirit of the challenge then I'd say that's all good there as well. I'm usually picky with certain challenge rules because of how often people bend them to fit a specific thing when they clearly didn't try to look for any alternatives, and I'd say using savestates to pull off a trick that you very clearly did research in and that trick still being within the spirit of the challenge is something I personally see no problem in doing. I love when challenges like this pull off some really odd and crazy glitches kind of like how YMFAH does it, and as long as those are being used to achieve a goal then I'm happy with it. Also I loved that half A press joke in hazey mazey cavey (also I haven't heard anyone else call hazey maze cave that as well in a long time so it took me by surprise to hear lol)

Excellent video, definitely going through your catalog now and looking forward to seeing how you grow! Good job

This was an awesome video dude! I watched it all from beginning to end, and I didn't expect to do that. It was a big journey, and I really liked that. I also liked the Pannenkoek references. I did think though that using the heaven portal glitch to do the ending parts was too glitchy to do for an average player, though I don't mind normal, easier glitches. However, upon seeing that you had to pull of insane movements and needed to abuse save states for that goomba trick to even have a chance at finishing Bowser in the Sky, those previous feelings of "eh, it's a bit unrealistic to do normally" subsided, since even if you found a way to get 80 stars some other way, you would still need to do all of that unrealistic stuff with the goomba to even reach Bowser. I was also a little surprised that you never got that one star from that Whomp battle. I guess it really was that difficult 😁

People like you have way more patience than me lol. I really love the technical movement that needed to be used. That one red coin in TTM stood out to me for some reason.

The Pannenkoek reference was hilarious, very good video!

Save States to reset you to the position you need to be in to begin your techs is perfectly fine in my eyes. Arguably in that final stage, save stating at each individual point you need to get the Goomba transferred to a new platform is "cheating". But when executing that steategy in one unbroken run requires a blue moon on a Friday the 13th at 11:59 pm during a lunar eclipse whilst the stars are aligned as Cthulu is being summoned for the seventh time within a...(you get the idea)...yeah, it's perfectly valid as far as I'm concerned. Seriously though, save states or not, getting that last strat to work is SUPER impressive 👏

Legit one of the best challenge videos I’ve seen. Really impressive!

My take on the use of save states is that for runs that are functionally "can I do x" then using save states to avoid wasting time on tricks you completed but were time consuming is fine because that does not change the spirit of the challenge. You know you can do the trick, you did it before, the challenge becomes overcoming the next obstacle and not testing your patience doing the last one. It would be different if this were a race against yourself or another, because then time would be a core part of your run but at least where I am in the video there is no indication that you are even keeping track of your time so it is fine since it does not impact the end result which is if you can physically do the thing.

Great work! Excited to see the next run, but take your time!

22:48 correct me if I’m wrong but I think the have. One of the platforms near the bottom actually raises itself extremely slowly, if you wait a good few hours you can cut a jump which I think skips that part.

Save states on stuff that is possible, but would take you years to perfect, are valid in my book. It lets us see the final product of you beating the game without jumping while saving you hours of time save repeating steps in a hard trick.

Amazing video man! You got a subscriber here! I’d say save states are fine as long as you disclose in the video start or end that you used them, just in case sometime in the future someone wants to try save-state-less.

18:46 I never knew Toad could find your hat if you lost it, that's so neat! Thank you, Toad. You're useful for more than just giving us a few free Stars!

52:00 Ahahaha! I probably shouldn't laugh at something like this but it was just so funny.

Advice, for future reference, Yoshi can use his tongue (A) to get things far away, EVEN SILVER AND POWER STARS! You can also turn one enemy or wooden box into an egg and toss it into enemies for bonus coins. To do this, just crouch after eating an enemy or a wooden box.

Wow, I can tell the sheer amount of time this challenge took. And then editing it, too. Seriously the best youtube video ive ever seen over an hour long

Mario’s super wall kicks is no more it is now “S U P E R”

The best challenge run I ever seen in all my life. Thanks for this amazing video =D

I love challenge videos like this. So when i saw this in my feed, i knew i gad to watch this. This is pre-watch commentary. Very excited.

The wait was entirely worth it, I really enjoyed all the challenges you faced, and i hope the Reptile Ruuumbleeeeeeee.......continues on! ❤

Amazing video. I liked how through and experimental you were with every star you could obtain. I also like that you saved using glitches until you needed them. AND I liked the way you formatted the video. Instead of going course by course and saying what stars are possible, you showed us your personal journey and when you went to each course sometimes even taking breaks to try new courses. Was very fun to watch.

I always love how people who do these challenge runs ask if things like savestates and glitches are ok to use (especially when theyve already sunk tens if not hundreds of hours into the challenge). The way I see it, the object of the video is to prove if the run is POSSIBLE to do; probability is a much less important factor in my mind. Use savestates and frame perfect inputs all you want; I'm just here to see players bend games to their unreasonable demands.

I really loved this video! I didn't even realise it was 1 hour long, it just felt like 20 minutes by how well made it was I have this idea of maybe me adding captions to other languages like Spanish (RU-vid used to have community subtitles) but i'm not sure how adding captions is made at all-

Very late to this video but since super Mario 64 DS was the first game I ever 100% I just had to watch, and I’m really glad I did. This was an amazing challenge! Glad to say I subscribed ^.^

Man SM64DS is such a classic, it's a shame it is just a repaint of SM64 with some new stuff cus I absolutely loved this game as a kid and wish more people talked about it. 14:20 "I made sure to give Bowser my complaints for not making this course handicap accessible" lmao. 48:26 "First we need to talk about the afterlife" is the new "First we need to talk about parallel universes." xD 1:00:44 I sometimes forget that Bowser canonically designs the courses in these games lol.

i love the borders you used to fill the blank space on the sides of the video! really great attention to detail

This video was a blast to watch! Great job😊

I enjoyed this video from beginning to end, it’s just so neat! :)

I watched this video because it showed up in my recommended list and I have to say that was an amazing job you did there! Personally I do not find the save states to be cheating since some tricks you had to do, especially the Heaven exploit is not easy to pull off. I remember doing it myself and it took me hours before I got it right, even longer than your two. I'm glad I watched this video, it kind of makes me intrigued to do a run like this myself, maybe not on my physical copy of the game because doing the Heaven exploit for many hours again will be annoying... But once again, great job!

really good video on the whole, also save state usage is completely okay by me (and probably most of your audience at a guess) however you know when someone's gotten something even slightly wrong, you know that urge you get to point it out? I got that at 58:47 when you called OtR "Wing Mario Over the Rainbow" sorry I can't help it sometimes

There actually is a glitch in Tall Tall Mountain that may have been useful as it floods half the course and allows you to swim up the mountain until about halfway. You can get the Lonely Mushroom star this way as well so long as you avoid the wind currents. It's triggered through the teleportation zone near the beginning somehow, but it doesn't seem to work every time, I'm not even sure if it works on non-European versions.

I love challenge videos like this. So when i saw this in my feed, i knew i gad to watch this. This is pre-watch commentary. Very excited. Post-watch! Totally incredible feat, i was sure it wouldn't be possible!

I'd jump for joy at seeing another upload from you, but that'd violate the rules.

Wow, this was quite the journey! Can't blame you in the slightest for using save states, either. As long as you can do each of the steps individually I think save states are fine because they simply save you from a lot of tedium.

Nice! That final Bowser level looks like hell lmao By the way, have you played A Hat In Time? I highly recommend you check it out, it's a great platformer that also has lots of potential for cool challenges like this

Always good content, keep it up man

51:07 “hopefully i didn’t put you guys to sleep” brother that is why i have the video playing

I was contemplating about whether to try this on console, but the Yoshi Goomba juggling at the end looks like a nightmare. The last challenge playthrough I did was Super Mario Sunshine without the hover nozzle, which is much easier to do compared to this challenge.

Extremely well done video!, also love the parts where you talk like panenkoek, hope he is doing alright I love some Mario 64 DS content

Having a tough day. This video helped me smile and laugh. Thank you.

That was a great video! Can’t wait to see more!

The save state part is very valid, that trick made up for it for being ultra cool 😎

I can’t believe you actually pulled that off. You madman. I am thoroughly impresssed.

Your dedication is amazing! Congrats man! 👏

This video is very underrated Goodjob on completing the challenge!

Fire video!! Good job man

Bro i was watching like half the video, convinced you were some 700k-800k youtuber judging by the quality of the video before i saw the sub count - mad respect!

It's crazy how there's still tech I didn't know about in this game. I played it so much as a kid lol. This was amazingly impressive!

Oh so fun fact, beating the game without any new characters IS possible. Nathanial Bandy was one of the first (if not the first) to pull this off

Great video. You make some good points. Very entertaining

Insane dedication, man. Crazy video. 🤯

This was a really fun video to watch, especially given the sources of inspiration you are taking from. Nice references, good explanations on the strats you pulled, and even more impressive pulling them off! This is definitely something I would like to try for myself one day, or at least some tricks like the heaven portal lol This might be dumb to ask, but I assume a heaven portal for luigi doesn't exist because there is always a floor beneath Mario in that particular case? Even if you could do it from the basement, since it's a different loading zone (as far as I'm aware), would it still trigger it? And even with that, from the layout I remember, could the last part be traversed to get to Boo?

This was tons of fun to watch !

1:06:25 and its gotta be on a tuesday afternoon and the winds gotta be on your side lol. Great video man didnt even think this was possible but you managed to do it and save states are okay its not cheating cause your just gonna go back and retry again. you just saving time redoing all that and just getting there. where its not okay is if you play idk pokemon and doing no damage and you just save state before making a move and when you get hit go back just to fish for the miss rng. again great job man

I'm pretty hyped that they're porting dark moon to switch, obviously what they really need to do is port this to switch. Some people might find it weird since they still have an officially ported super Mario 64 in its OG state other than in the online n64 thing but I would love to see this game ported to switch I love this game while I was a kid I have really good memories with it.

This was cool. As another challenge idea maybe you could do Mario 64 DS without running. This would also cut you off from advanced moves like long jumps, slide kicks and dives.

I want to say save states are valid if they cut out the tediousness. If you need to ram into a wall over and over to randomly have a single shot to make a jump, it's okay to savestate when the random chance works so you don't waste time doing nothing. However it is not okay when it reduces skill involved. Like if you fight a boss and you drop a savestate so you can try over and over to avoid one attack. That is a case where it wouldn't be okay unless it was absolutely necessary just so you could say it can be done even if it's not viable for a human to pull it off without tools.

I think it's odd people don't count the roll out jump as a jump but the P balloon is? sounds like a classic case of you can only do it because you guys are able to break the rule from day 1.

So you know, you can also use glitchy slide kicks to clip through the mirror room instead of the heaven portal. Theres actually unused dialog for getting there as Yoshi (normally you cant) I wouldnt worry about using a save state. Personally, I've tried using heaven portals to hit much larger targets, and it still took ages

I am really impressed, both by the video and by the fact you are still responding to comments.

I think I have never seen someone do dis challenge before. It was a great video. I hope that the algorithm picks it up soon.

awesome video :) wanna see you get 100 starts! seems now you have more knowledge to get a few more stars

That Watch For Rolling Rocks challenge reference was great lol