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Rowan Ellis, Katie Steckles and Dani Siller ('Escape This Podcast') face a question about four peculiar pictures.
LATERAL is a weekly podcast about interesting questions and even more interesting answers, hosted by Tom Scott. For business enquiries, contestant appearances or question submissions, visit www.lateralcas...
GUESTS:
Rowan Ellis: ‪@HeyRowanEllis‬, / heyrowanellis
Katie Steckles: ‪@KatieSteckles‬, / stecks , www.finitegrou...
Dani Siller: ‪@consumethismedia‬, / escthispodcast
HOST: Tom Scott.
QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe.
RECORDED AT: The Podcast Studios, Dublin.
EDITED BY: Julie Hassett.
GRAPHICS: Chris Hanel at Support Class. Assistant: Dillon Pentz.
MUSIC: Karl-Ola Kjellholm ('Private Detective'/'Agrumes', courtesy of epidemicsound.com).
FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd.
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott.
© Pad 26 Limited (www.pad26.com) / Labyrinth Games Ltd. 2023.

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29 авг 2024

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@TheKacperuss 10 месяцев назад

Tom reciting the NATO alphabet like it's Black Ops esque sleeper agent broadcast was strangely entertaining

@GustavSvard 10 месяцев назад

I was thinking it was going to be a pre-school learn-the-alphabet book for kids living on Navy bases, that for some bureaucratic reason got classified as a manual.

@pflasterstrips7254 5 месяцев назад

oh, like the NSA internal python course that go declassified.

@HeyRowanEllis 10 месяцев назад

This was true teamwork gang we got there eventually haha

@Qermaq 10 месяцев назад

I googled images of "phonetic alphabet morse code illustrated" and did not find this, but I think it's worthwhile to do so and I recommend it.

@TrickyTricky914 8 месяцев назад

Search up: “Symbol Learning in Navy Technical Training: An Evaluation of Strategies and Mnemonics”. From there, it’s on page 46 onwards

@Phreak0matic 10 месяцев назад

Am I the only one who adores Dani's childlike enthusiasm?

@MelinaENJ 10 месяцев назад

i wish they showed the drawings at the end! i tried to search it up but couldn’t find them

@lorenzoblum868 10 месяцев назад

Absolutely. Copyrights would be the only reasonable excuse.

@ne6toto 10 месяцев назад

@@lorenzoblum868 I feel this would fall under fair use.

@maxxod1 10 месяцев назад

Found something similar but not quite. Just googled “US navy Morse phonetic illustration”

@lateralcast 10 месяцев назад

Search for "Symbol Learning in Navy Technical Training: An Evaluation of Strategies and Mnemonics".

@PianoKwanMan 10 месяцев назад

Stick a post in the Wargame Forums arguing that it doesn't exist. It will pop up rather quickly

@NhanNguyen-vb6sr 10 месяцев назад

I take an embarassingly long time to link from NATO to Morse, but that is a very cool way to learn to memorize it.

@PetorialC 10 месяцев назад

Spoiler!

@Chris-nq9nb 10 месяцев назад

This comment comes up before you even click on the video. Please put a spoiler warning so the answer isn't immediately visible 🙏

@dgaf9843 10 месяцев назад

No a spoiler, as ex navy, it still took me way too long. You gotta be in the field for even that hint to make sense

@daerdevvyl4314 9 месяцев назад

Chris-nq9nb That's RU-vid's fault, not commenters'.

@jvgreendarmok 8 месяцев назад

"A father" made me think of "Papa" from the Phonetic Alphabet straight away, because of one of the questions in Tom's original in-person version of Lateral. 🙂

@brucekives2194 10 месяцев назад

I've seen this done before, except I can't exactly remember where. It was either in an ARRL publication or in a Boy Scout manual. As soon as they started talking about the phonetic alphabet, those ancient images popped into my mind.

@WyvernYT 9 месяцев назад

It's wonderful that both organizations are completely capable of doing this and we can't remember which one, if not both, actually did.

@vasace9693 10 месяцев назад

I really want to see this now. I imagine it'd be a fun poster on my wall.

@datadrivendave 10 месяцев назад

Most of them are absolutely terrible and I have no idea how they would help. But totally a fun thing to have on the wall.

@WyvernYT 9 месяцев назад

It would be easy enough to take the images from the pdf and arrange them into something you can print out. Do a search for "Symbol Learning in Navy Technical Training: An Evaluation of Strategies and Mnemonics" and you'll find it.

@alexharrison2743 2 месяца назад

@@datadrivendave NGL I've been looking through them for 5 minutes and have now returned to the comments, and I'm actually able to remember what most of them are I think how terrible and contrived they are almost helps?

@Galb39 10 месяцев назад

I watched a video with mnemonics for more code, one of which was "Juliette slaps Romeo and walks away. Slap, step step step" which would be .--- Like 5 seconds after imagining the jet I realized it's -.. but connected it to Juliette because I don't remember morse code.

@Bismuth9 10 месяцев назад

This is one that I figured out super quickly! By about 1:15 I knew it had to be that just based on the specific details of the descriptions.

@Bismuth9 10 месяцев назад

@@bungaIowbill The details about furry eyebrows, the two little clouds and the handle, shaft and face seemed very specific. I was trying to paint a mental picture of them when I tied the link with the US navy. From there I figured they were dots and dashes, and this was a mnemonic tool for morse code. I didn't initially think of the words being the NATO phonetic alphabet but it makes a lot of sense obviously.

@kevinbarnard3502 9 месяцев назад

It was rather annoying when I went from military to civilian law enforcement. It made me cringe at times hearing others say, "adam" instead of "alpha", "baker" instead of "bravo", etc

@yukimoe 10 месяцев назад

Oooh, some riddle today.

@arcanics1971 10 месяцев назад

I am glad it turned out that it was to illustrate something other than just what the words represent, or I would be angry that the nation of the Mississippi had chosen an airline for Delta!

@pvtbuddie 10 месяцев назад

I *so* need this!!

@darrenmorby4753 10 месяцев назад

This reminds me of the book illustrating Chinese ideographs (I forget which episode of Lateral had that question).

@paradoxica424 6 месяцев назад

E22: “A carousel’s little secret”

@bjmgeek 10 месяцев назад

I'd love to see a link to the original image.

@JohnDoe-tx8lq 10 месяцев назад

I make sure to watch these videos twice, I always feel smarter the second time. 🙂

@shanytopper2422 10 месяцев назад

Anyone got the illustartions?

@whydoineedanameiwillneverp7790 10 месяцев назад

Lateral responded to other posts asking for this - searching for "symbol learning in navy technical training an evaluation of learning strategies and mnemonics" will get you the PDF of the training manual they're referencing. The images start on page 45.

@panda4247 6 месяцев назад

I was like WTF, but when they said it's a golf club, I though of the NATO Alphabet. There is definitely Papa, Hotel (large building), Golf (the aforementioned golf club). Not sure what the jet would be though (maybe delta (as its wing shape)?) or am I completely off? Let's watch and see Edit> okey, it was cooler than I though and now I want to see those pictures!

@user-gx1rk8yw6l 10 месяцев назад

Rats! So 'PDHG' was not the initials of some device, or like 'PDQ' standing for 'Pretty Damn Quick'. [sigh...]

@psilorder86 10 месяцев назад

Dammit. I was thinking of morse code at the start but i couldn't picture how the pictures were morse code letters.

@nate_storm Месяц назад

i got NATO alphabet instantly but didn’t realize the Morse connection

@markwright3161 7 месяцев назад

Warnings against flying too low was my first thought. I paused a few seconds to keep the list on screen after it was first read out before coming to that. Edit; It being a golf club crossed my mind as it played, 'what club has a face', but I didn't immediately jump to phonetic alphabet despite having tried to memorise that. It made more sense when I realised she didn't say ''farmer' but instead 'father', and I did run through the letters like Tom did when it clicked with 'a big building' potentially being a hotel. I wouldn't have got the Morse code bit myself, but it did seem quite clever on hearing it, and made the separation of the golf club and mentioning his eyebrows seem obvious in hindsight.

@DeGuerre 10 месяцев назад

This is your periodic reminder that Morse is a SOUNDED code. The symbols that make it up are not "dots" and "dashes", they are "dits" and "dahs". I have been corrected on this so many times that now it's your turn.

@gcewing 10 месяцев назад

That may be true today, but the original way Morse was used was that the receiver printed short and long lines on a strip of paper. So it's not entirely wrong to call them dots and dashes, just a bit behind the times.

@DeGuerre 10 месяцев назад

@@gcewingSure, although even during the printing era, it wasn't always dots and dashes. By the time this US Navy book was written, Morse code was a sounded language, and operators would look at you with disgust if you said "dot" and "dash".

@WyvernYT 9 месяцев назад

Morse can also be a LIGHT code.

@DeGuerre 9 месяцев назад

@@WyvernYT You can notate sign language, but it is not a notated language.

@WyvernYT 9 месяцев назад

@@DeGuerre Not the same thing. Morse is the same whether it is received as sound, light, marks on paper, or some other way.

@stephenj9470 10 месяцев назад

Any ideas of where to find these pictures on the internet? It seems like a really great way to learn [spoiler].

@59withqsb12 10 месяцев назад

Don't know how to do the timestamp thing but I'm shouting morse training as soon as you started recognising that the pictures represent words in the phonetic alphabet. i'm 3'10" in so I'd love to say I'm waiting to see if I'm right, but sadly I've now seen the comments below where I'm typing this. ➖➖⚫⚫⚫ ⚫⚫⚫➖➖

@sandwich2473 10 месяцев назад

Gosh dang, I knew it had something to do with hearing but I didn't quite get it :P

@MrTandtrollet 10 месяцев назад

Can anyone link a photo of this, or tell me what to google!?

@WyvernYT 9 месяцев назад

Search for "Symbol Learning in Navy Technical Training: An Evaluation of Strategies and Mnemonics" and you'll find it.

@duncanurquhart5278 10 месяцев назад

based on the use of the word club and the fact that it has something to do with the navy, I'm assuming its the phonetic alphabet and the building is meant to be a Hotel. No clue what the jet or father could be, but I really can never remember the words for all the letters.

@sponge1234ify 10 месяцев назад

To be fair, Delta Airlines is such a specificly american term; never heard of that company over here.

@allanrichardson1468 9 месяцев назад

@@sponge1234ifyCould also be a delta-wing fighter plane.

@FroZenMemes 9 месяцев назад

There was also an oscar meyer weiner, yankee doodle, november turkey, sierra mountains. All exclusively American terms Edit: I would also like to add my amusement to seeing that "Kilogram" is used in this lol

@klikkolee 10 месяцев назад

Only about a third of process of using the phonetic alphabet is obvious. If you hear "papa", and you know the sender is providing letters, then you know the letter is "p". But if you don't know that the sender is sending letters, then knowing that "papa" in particular is a phonetic alphabet symbol would tell you that it is meant to be interpreted as a letter, and if you need to transmit letters, knowing the standard letters allows you to transmit the letters without risk of collision with other keywords.