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Can You Hear The Difference Between Cheap And Expensive Trombones? 

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Can you hear the difference between a bass sackbut and a plastic trombone? If you're a violinist or a flute player, I bet NOT! Harp players probably will though...
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EDIT: The last beat of the arabesque sheet music is WRONG. It should be E F E Db C instead of whatever the heck is printed...
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0:00 Introduction
0:15 Trombone Overview
0:29 Timmy Trumpet "Freaks"
1:10 Samuel Hazo Arabesque
1:55 Ravel Bolero
3:16 Like and Subscribe Plz
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@trombonetimo
@trombonetimo Год назад
EDIT: The last beat of the arabesque sheet music is WRONG. It should be E F E Db C instead of whatever the heck is printed...
@ColonialForbin
@ColonialForbin Год назад
I’m doing arabesque in my wind ensemble and I got confused when I saw it too
@TromboneTrillo
@TromboneTrillo Год назад
The plastic sounded out of tune
@luladrgn9155
@luladrgn9155 Год назад
that's what sounds actually, as a flute player it's similar to what i have
@dimitrishostakovich2223
@dimitrishostakovich2223 Год назад
Lol whats printed is the first horn part
@dakotacompaan6292
@dakotacompaan6292 Год назад
What is the weird handle thing on the sackbut
@inertiathegecko
@inertiathegecko Год назад
As a trombone player, these are so cool to hear! I have a jazz trombone and a orchestral tenor, and I love the sound of the bass sackbutt. Thanks for a great comparison!
@trombonetimo
@trombonetimo Год назад
Thank you so much! I hope to do more with it in the future. All the slide positions on it are different than Tenor and Alto trombone so it's actually a nightmare to play at the moment!
@thomasshipley8052
@thomasshipley8052 Год назад
Same here, I feel like people are getting scammed on plastic Trombones because companies say that they are as good as a expensive Trombone
@Teddymcfartson
@Teddymcfartson Год назад
@@thomasshipley8052 people should have enough common sense to realize that isn’t true tho.
@TromboneTrillo
@TromboneTrillo Год назад
@@trombonetimo What trombone model do you play and if any replacement parts what are they?
@mccabecompositions
@mccabecompositions Год назад
As a jazz and orchestra trombonist, I feel the orchestral tenor had the best sound out of all of them
@Kibbies
@Kibbies Год назад
The way I see it, jazz feels like it’s better, but only in certain categories
@georgeschaut2178
@georgeschaut2178 Год назад
I would agree. The orchestral tenor seemed to hold its own across all selections, & sounded particularly good playing the high notes in Bolero...but could also be used in jazz. That may also reflect the fact that it's an Edwards. It would be interesting to know what make/model the "Jazz Trombone" is. George, Canada...
@mccabecompositions
@mccabecompositions Год назад
@George Schaut that's what I do. I use my orchestral tenor (benge 165f) for all occasions unless I need an extremely bright sound, then I use my jazz tenor (Buffet (don't know the model or age, records of the serial number was destroyed in a fire))
@georgiapuppie
@georgiapuppie 11 месяцев назад
The orchestral tenor trombone has a much brighter sound!
@doloresescalante6310
@doloresescalante6310 5 месяцев назад
Ya
@dylanhatton5178
@dylanhatton5178 Год назад
The tenor is the best overall, but the jazz trombone sounded super nice on the last excerpt
@wye4871
@wye4871 Год назад
wait a second i know you
@dylanhatton5178
@dylanhatton5178 Год назад
@@wye4871 ?
@AustinBeaufort
@AustinBeaufort Год назад
The pbone sounded solid considering its price point. Also that bass sackbut is awesome, well done! Personal fav sound is the jazz horn I think.
@itz_voltage_yt1827
@itz_voltage_yt1827 Год назад
The orchestral tenor sounds the cleanest to me. Maybe I'm just biased idk. First btw
@trombonetimo
@trombonetimo Год назад
Phew... That's my main
@MDeadcloud
@MDeadcloud Год назад
The bass sackbut and the alto suffered a lot (although the sackbut more so), since most of these excerpts aren't really meant for them. The PBone is really just to mess around or teach someone who can't lift a brass peashooter. Between the orchestral tenor (large bore, I presume) and the jazz horn, it depends a bit on the chosen music, as it was pretty close in Bolero, but the orchestral tenor sounded better in general. Overall, I'd rank the orchestral tenor first, with the jazz horn a bit behind. I'd rank the alto after, then the bass sackbut, then finally the PBone.
@bobmarlowe3390
@bobmarlowe3390 8 месяцев назад
I have a Martin 'Urbie Green' model tenor that's just as light as a pBone, and it's a heck of a lot easier to play.
@ezequielsanchez9191
@ezequielsanchez9191 Год назад
I can definitely tell a sound difference. My favorite is the orchestral tenor it just gives a bit more of a richer sound.
@kristopherrivas602
@kristopherrivas602 Год назад
Arabesque is the only way to test if the trombone has agility, I’m surprised the plastic did well since it doesn’t look like it’s mean to be played fast
@Dolion_Anwir
@Dolion_Anwir Год назад
I'm playing trombone in advanced band rn and I'm in middle school. I think I kinda suck, but ur vids give me hope. Thank you ❤
@benwalsh2305
@benwalsh2305 Год назад
As a non trombone player Timo never ceases to impress
@jodabrave
@jodabrave 5 месяцев назад
when you were playing bolero on the alto the notes were just a little sharp and that made it sound a million times better. keep it up!
@goostophbanana2395
@goostophbanana2395 Год назад
They all sound good accept the p-bone but orchestral is the best. Granted the p-bone might sound iffy just because of the material. PS great job. My fellow trombonist friends and I are huge fans!
@chrisgrabham7921
@chrisgrabham7921 Год назад
Alto trombone was my favourite, followed by the orchestral tenor - both have such a great tone!!
@kiltedpatriotatheart
@kiltedpatriotatheart 11 месяцев назад
As a fellow trombone player, your tonguing is impressive. Nice job!
@MazichMusic
@MazichMusic Год назад
Orchestral tenor, then the jazz horn, alto, pbone and sackbut, in that order. You make the phone sound like trombone-like instrument. I've played an orchestral tenor since college (1979 graduate) and have taken to bass trombone the last 4 years. I'm currently played an independent rotor bass. I would have loved to hear a comparison played with a bass. When I'm playing in band and we get a unison passage above the staff, I who their butts with that big sound! I just found your channel, I liked and subscribed. Great chops!
@NeilABliss
@NeilABliss Год назад
Honestly, Bolero on a smaller bore horn is probably closer to what Ravel was hearing in his head. Plastic is great for those outdoor gigs on freezing days...but suck otherwise. Love the Bass Sackbut.....would love to hear some typical Bass Sackbut parts on it, conforming to the horn...likewise for the Alto....which sounds great but isn't typical for those pieces.... The Orchestral horn is the one you seem most comfortable on...and sounds the best as a result.
@elijah253
@elijah253 Год назад
PEOPLE!!! LET'S BLOW UP THE OLD TROMBONE TIMO CHANEL! I'm subscriber number 19!!!!!!!
@andrewwisniewski3005
@andrewwisniewski3005 Год назад
Our band is playing arabesque for our next concert and I am beyond excited. It is one heck of a piece.
@mdaniels7541
@mdaniels7541 Год назад
Us too!!!!!
@brandontipwilson862
@brandontipwilson862 8 месяцев назад
The “jazz trombone” is a Conn 4H and I have one!! My little peashooter held it down 🥹🥹🥹
@Naturallystated
@Naturallystated Год назад
You must remember that we are hearing it not from the horn but our speakers, after being digitally cropped. As a trumpet player and music teacher, I could hear clearly the differences, but I also listen through my studio system. Having heard all but the Sackbut live , the differences are vast.
@ieattoomanyclementines2372
@ieattoomanyclementines2372 Год назад
Cool video, that's a hell of a difference!
@steve1000
@steve1000 2 месяца назад
That was hilarious! You sound great on the Edwards.
@SamuelPlaysBrass
@SamuelPlaysBrass Год назад
It's hilarious how drastic the sound difference was switching from plastic to small-bore brass. Although I have to say you really sound 'at home' on your large-bore in any style!
@RaichuEnjoy
@RaichuEnjoy 7 месяцев назад
Idk plastic trombones are just better
@MEMESHOW34
@MEMESHOW34 Год назад
Thumbs up on the Orchestral Tenor.Dope beat
@MsMerrySunshine13
@MsMerrySunshine13 8 месяцев назад
i love the pbone so much, like the way it sounds and the whole look of it. one of my squad leaders (low brass) plays the pbone during marching season and its so cool to hear, it really projects her sound and sounds good during slow, fast, jazz, and any piece we play.
@KidneyGobbler91
@KidneyGobbler91 7 месяцев назад
You can’t just give me a fucking EDP jumpscare
@RyanAlexanderBloom
@RyanAlexanderBloom Месяц назад
“Orchestral” sounded best to me. I’m not even always a fan of the modern “dark concert sound” but that was nice sounding horn.
@robertshaw7523
@robertshaw7523 8 месяцев назад
As a sackbut player (albeit tenor rather than bass), the biggest difference in approach is that with the sackbut, with an historically correct, flat rimmed, shallow mouthpiece, and the small bore size, you have to blow a lot less air through it.
@ajbp95
@ajbp95 Год назад
Plastic was better than I expected, though I'm not sure I would pay 200 $ for it, probably better to find a second hand one for that prize. Question: Is the plastic one harder or easier to play?
@JeanPaul-Hol65
@JeanPaul-Hol65 Год назад
The PBone is extremely easy to play, I’ve tried it personally several times. But I don’t really like his sound very much. 😉
@MDeadcloud
@MDeadcloud Год назад
I imagine the PBone is great if you just wanna mess around or you're trying to teach a young child (like ES age, not MS). However, for a middle school student, a second hand Yamaha student peashooter is probably best (or whatever student horn you can get for cheap.)
@aikifab
@aikifab Год назад
The slide is actually a bit ... rough
@georgeschaut2178
@georgeschaut2178 Год назад
Plastic is good for kids because a) it's lightweight, b) durable, resistant to damage, & c) cheap. I wasn't impressed with the sound of that one though...
@fishchair48
@fishchair48 Год назад
As a trombone with 6 years of experience and am still trash I can confirm this sounds like a trombone
@MDeadcloud
@MDeadcloud Год назад
Damn, you're a trombone?
@BananasAreAmazing
@BananasAreAmazing Год назад
Song #1 winner: Jazz Trombone Song #2 winner: Alto Trombone Song #3 winner: Jazz and Orchestral Tenor trombone tie (My opinion)
@timothylever1660
@timothylever1660 Год назад
I love arabesque. I remember playing that in high school
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 Год назад
The orchestral tenor sounds great on all of them, and has a lovely tone. The alto looked like the mouthpiece was too large for it.
@James2210
@James2210 Год назад
My friend determined that a lot of the plasticy sound of the PBone can be attributed to the plastic mouthpiece. Maybe try a different one?
@CreaativeName
@CreaativeName Год назад
Man, as a Horn player I REALLY wish I could eventually play Arabesque but sadly my band is nowhere near good enough to pull it off. Guess I'll have to wait till college :sadge:
@ultra9349
@ultra9349 8 месяцев назад
Orchestral and jazz were both the best i can’t decide between the 2 tho
@christinashelby6083
@christinashelby6083 Год назад
I can just hear the orchestral 'bone's bowtie. The alto is like its little brother and the jazz one like its cousin who likes to party. That plastic one, though, man.... sounds like you're playing it from the back of the closet. P.S. Hook 'em Horns!
@trombonetimo
@trombonetimo Год назад
🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
@confused_shark2537
@confused_shark2537 Год назад
the plastic one is more meant for a beginners or practice instrument, you wouldn’t play it at a concert or anything lol
@joseferreira8083
@joseferreira8083 Год назад
very nice this video I play trombone tenor and your sound is wonderful .Can you bring a video where you play double bass trombone
@verfuncht
@verfuncht Год назад
Your accent is an enigma. It’s like you were born in both 1940 and 2000
@walkersofoak
@walkersofoak Год назад
Idk what type if trombone i have but the jazz and bass sackbutt sounded really cool
@yaboybarcode4220
@yaboybarcode4220 Год назад
I love the orchestral tbone, what brand/model is it?
@TheHispanicUsername
@TheHispanicUsername Год назад
Favorite is the Orchestal Tenor, W.
@JarrettisagamerLOL
@JarrettisagamerLOL 6 месяцев назад
is the orchestral tenor trombone your trombone you mostly play with because i use a trombone that looks alike ad its omg the best
@Renamegaystostraight
@Renamegaystostraight Год назад
I play the trumpet cause one if my friends said u should try it and then i kept practicing and now i am getting better and i just started band
@Saffronmoon-sv2es
@Saffronmoon-sv2es Год назад
You know he is good at tbone when he makes the $200 sound good.
@gertleurink9186
@gertleurink9186 Год назад
Very funny,...I like it🤣
@killeraudiofile8094
@killeraudiofile8094 6 месяцев назад
what jazz horn is that, a 6H? You sound phenomenal on it!
@Legocoder1234
@Legocoder1234 Год назад
You should get the the phone mini as an alto trombone and review it
@SirLiamothy
@SirLiamothy Год назад
You can never go wrong with a good old tenor trombone
@ale_isanodd1
@ale_isanodd1 Год назад
i don’t even play trombone (percussion, clarinet, and some others) but damn this is so nice
@arisusandi5793
@arisusandi5793 9 месяцев назад
Meanwhille bass trombone: *Toot*
@ericmyrs
@ericmyrs Год назад
Hazo writes some genuinely cool shit.
@vickod18
@vickod18 8 месяцев назад
Is that a conn 4h or 6h?
@peperoni_pepino
@peperoni_pepino Год назад
I wonder, could you theoretically mix and match the slide of one trombone on the rest of another? What would sound better, the orchestral with a plastic slide, or the plastic with an orchestral slide? Or are the slides different sizes?
@georgeschaut2178
@georgeschaut2178 Год назад
I had read somewhere that if you used a brass mouthpiece in a plastic horn, that this would make the instrument sound less "plastic." Worth a try...One of the trombonists in my town band has an alto horn where the bell & slide are from two different makers. Don't know about a brass/plastic hybrid though...
@johnsimpsen5
@johnsimpsen5 Год назад
The alto trombone is just more responsive and the tone is beautiful, gotta go with that one bolero and arabesque
@Cooper98765
@Cooper98765 6 месяцев назад
The jazz trombone, how do you get that vibrato like sound to come out o those half notes and quarter notes
@zqa12swx
@zqa12swx Год назад
lol the memes. a man of culture I see.
@josephdavis733
@josephdavis733 Год назад
My brother played arabesque and now she’s playing first chair at Allstate
@cryptikallz8206
@cryptikallz8206 Год назад
Video recommendation right here, I lay the creation bass trombone solo on the bass saxtbutt
@danielferreira9578
@danielferreira9578 Год назад
TENOR: THE BEST 🙌🏼 IN ALL
@mayclarque4123
@mayclarque4123 Год назад
What kind of Conn is your jazz horn? I’m curious about the model.
@penso35
@penso35 9 месяцев назад
젤 중요한건 연주자네요
@kuriz7004
@kuriz7004 Год назад
I just got done watching a concert at my brother’s high school. These trombones are cool btw I play trombone but I’m not good and not in high school
@goose3811
@goose3811 4 месяца назад
whats your recommendation for a starter alto trombone that doesnt sound like crap
@EthanGeye
@EthanGeye Год назад
Oh arabesque I love Samuel Hazo
@JeremyCulbreath
@JeremyCulbreath Год назад
Stuff like this is why I'm thankful I have studio monitors. Never heard a plastic trombone before; but it's better than I would have imagined. Honestly, for a kid that may not stick with it, that's probably the way to go for a beginning student. The orchestral tenor has SOOOO many more rich overtones than any of the rest. To illustrate the differences more clearly, try some lower registers. Then the bass will likely come into it's own.
@georgeschaut2178
@georgeschaut2178 Год назад
Perhaps instead of starting your kid out on a $200 plastic trombone, go with an inexpensive $300 used Conn or King student horn instead...or perhaps go with rent to own? The plastic horn has the advantage of being resilient to any dents/damage that a student might throw at it, & it's lightweight. George, Canada...
@bryanolsen827
@bryanolsen827 7 месяцев назад
I heard somewhere where the plastic trombone actually sounds good when you use a normal trombone mouthpiece on it rather than the plastic one
@natedawg9602
@natedawg9602 Год назад
Yo can u give us like the links to those songs? I wanna be able to pull it up and practice it
@hwaitsme2878
@hwaitsme2878 5 месяцев назад
Yo the arabesque part is in mirage and I played it my first year of high school and was the only one who could do that
@pokemagicraft3246
@pokemagicraft3246 Год назад
It's about the tone and how it feels to play
@SEN_CryoZ
@SEN_CryoZ Год назад
as a horn player i can confirm these sound like trombones
@jsivonenVR
@jsivonenVR Год назад
Just bought a pBone. Good thing I’m tone deaf or otherwise mainly unable to hear the difference between cheap and quality wind instruments. But here it was evident, even for me 🙀
@Betancourtdm
@Betancourtdm 11 месяцев назад
The plastic one seems to have is use case. I love the orchestral one on most pieces.
@Sublike101
@Sublike101 11 месяцев назад
I have an orchestral tenor tho I play in a couple jazz bands as well
@Trollet532
@Trollet532 Год назад
Im a trumpet player. The Edwards by faar in all comparisons. I guess i like the orchestral trombones.
@aHardcoreGoddess550
@aHardcoreGoddess550 11 месяцев назад
My favourite is the tenor trombone
@AAbshier
@AAbshier 8 месяцев назад
Wow, with the plastic bone any player at any level can get that 6th grade band sound! 🤣. I had to sell my Conn 88H--just closed the deal last week--now you're making me miss my big horn. Wah.
@uni-byte
@uni-byte 7 дней назад
The Edwards wins for me. Just seems the most capable and the large bore gives it the most transferable sound. Not that I'm an Edwards fanboy (actually a XO Brass fanboy) but I have always favored that large bore tenor sound since my King 4BF days.
@joaobernardo333
@joaobernardo333 10 месяцев назад
im a intermediate in trombone (i'll make one year of playing in setember) and i learned to play Freaks in 20-30 minutes
@foxysabitofahyprocrite2639
@foxysabitofahyprocrite2639 Год назад
how do u hit a b-flat on trombone my teacher won't help and i don't understand
@PIX_THE_FOX
@PIX_THE_FOX 6 месяцев назад
As a trombonist, I believe it doesn’t really matter the brand or price of a trombone, it matters the practice and the skill one has
@damianodero4652
@damianodero4652 Год назад
is that the original bolero trombone solo ? I thought the original one was higher ?
@llamalife7210
@llamalife7210 Год назад
I'm going to say something a bit controversial, but I like the p-bone. Hear me out, it's not the best for ensemble work, but in the right setting in can provide a different, but nice, color to a piece.
@origamicoffeemusic3930
@origamicoffeemusic3930 Год назад
Bro where’d you get a Sakbut?
@YoutubeChannel-st4tg
@YoutubeChannel-st4tg Год назад
I got my first trombone for 35 dollars out of a random guys trunk behind a McDonald’s 🙂
@brianmillersfishingscience3439
where did you get the jazz trombone
@NotFine
@NotFine Год назад
Where'd you get that jazz trombone
@willmanwaring6909
@willmanwaring6909 Год назад
AYO BRO IM PLAYING ARABESQUE RN THAT SECTION IS THE MOST FUN
@berintmoffett421
@berintmoffett421 Год назад
It's clear which one is the one you play the most -- the bass sackbut. Kidding, but I'd be interested to hear the difference a proper mouthpiece makes on the plastic instrument in this comparison. Most people say it turns it from a pile of garbage to decently playable.
@trevorroverttrevorrovert
@trevorroverttrevorrovert Год назад
Love the video, however in a comparison video like this, I think it’s be better to actually listen and hear if there weren’t any of the meme sounds or just ‘whooshes’ effects in the transitions. Just a simple just could do justice. Other than that great video
@VyxtheBat
@VyxtheBat Год назад
where tf did you get a bass sackbut while I'm over here unable to find even one double-thayer bass bone on the entire freakin' east coast
@Michael_VG
@Michael_VG Год назад
The tone of the plastic one really fit Bolero except for the high range lol
@tylerjack6018
@tylerjack6018 Год назад
What is the bass sackbut keyed in?
@markhendrickson2610
@markhendrickson2610 8 месяцев назад
Those plastic horns should be illegal. the alto would sound better on an alto trombone mouthpiece.
@AriannaCunningham
@AriannaCunningham Год назад
I think the Plastic Trombone and Alto Trombone sound very different, but the Orchestral Tenor, Jazz, and Bass Sackbutt sound extremely identical.
@STAR_KILLER-
@STAR_KILLER- Год назад
I wonder because the P phone is plastic. You don’t have to put grease on it(someone please correct me)
@KokaDeMollitas
@KokaDeMollitas Год назад
I have the orchestral tenor trombone, but I have not been able to get rid of the jazz trombone!
@poemedufeu
@poemedufeu Год назад
what speakers are those?
@gracev5288
@gracev5288 Год назад
As an oboist I could hear a difference though mostly on Bolero (I like bolero go D’Amore)
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