I was in my mid thirties when I discovered Aphantasia was even a thing that I had.. it's crazy that you can go your whole life believing all the other stuff people talk about are just metaphors or being fanciful, when in fact, they totally can 'picture things'
Same here. It was really mind blowing to realize that people can actually 'picture things'. I just assumed it was a metaphor for thinking about something for over 30 years.
Opposite as well, it's surprising when you, as someone who can imagine things, find out that there are people who are incapable of picturing things. It's such a natural thing for me that I find it almost impossible to believe that others can't.
As someone who has an eiditic memory, one component of which is being able ato visualise and manipulate images in my mind freely, so the idea that people have nothing actually makes me a bit sad!
As someone with aphantasia I thought I might share how I 'visualise' things when described. Usually day to day I don't visualise things in my head, speaking to myself is more useful to me as my information retention for instructions and numbers is I dare say above average (this may be down to the fact my job is crafting based so I need to remember measurements and directions for long periods of time), when someone describes something to me I do not get mental images nor can I truly force myself to generate one, what happens is I tend to bring to mind (not as words in my mind, just bringing to the forefront of my awareness) the descriptions or properties of the thing being talked about. For example as Beach is said here my thought process reminds me the colour of beaches, the fact that sand is tiny stones, good for ballast, bad for stability, etc... little tidbits that might be useful if I need it. The other way this can work is recalling previously seen things, so for example 'Dove tail joint' I wont be able to conjure an image of how it looks as if I were seeing one, but rather I'll have a clear understanding in my mind of how to make the joint, how it should look, etc... Boring as I know, but that's life ain't it.
Fun fact: at least in the US, the "front nine" refers to the first nine holes, which traditionally are arranged going away from the club house. The "back nine" refers to the last nine holes, which traditionally are arranged coming back toward the club house. Golfers walk away from the club house for the first half, then walk back to the club house for the second half. I speculate it has to do with the fact that by the time you're half way through the course, you hate yourself so much for the way you've played that you need mad levels of alcohol to cope with it and the club house is right there.
Finally, Trott has confirmed that he is my friend, parasocial relationships be damned. EDIT: As someone who is pretty good at visualising things in my head, Trott's "film" description was very... interesting... Love seeing golf with friends, one of my favourite Hat Films staples!
eyyy I have aphantasia, it was mind-blowing to learn about for the first time at 22, that all the descriptions in books of people seeing pictures in their head (or imagining that they were on a sunny beach, etc) was actually a thing.
14:37 okay at this point I went back and looked at the thumbnail, so thank you for including that for us aphantasiacs who can never truly imagine trott's glorious throbber
As we're apparently now friends: If I remember correctly, the disappearing and appearing objects is your ambient occlusion settings in the video options. I had the same issue on an egypt themed map where a sphinxy-thing would keep appearing and disappearing, changing the setting to disabled worked.
My experience with visualizing things feels pretty close to what Trott is describing. I feel like it takes a fair bit of effort to imagine a scene like Trott's prison and keep all the details. I'm sort of aware of the details there (like brick wall, concrete floor, orange jumper) but I'd have to consciously focus on one to actually picture it a bit. However, when it comes to stuff I've seen in real life I can vividly imagine reliving it. For example going to a shop dowtown, I can easily visualize the different routes to it etc based on memory or imagining an alternate route I haven't seen before.
As an animator, people who have aphantasia baffle me. How do they read books or day dream? How do they even plan? When I plan I "see" myself doing the steps needed. Those who I've talked to with the condition just say "I just do it like a list". I just can't fathom it. Being to "see" in my head is vital. I've made a career out if it.
I'm an artist with aphantasia, I just have to use actual visual reference for everything, from drawing to planning to whatever else needs doing, or with drawing I just wing it 'til it looks right lol. I daydream like I'm reading a book or telling a story, its all in words. Its weird but I don't really know any other way. I am kinda jealous other people can actually see things in their head tho, I reckon that'd make art a lot easier!
For me I can only really 'see' things from memory, usually from film or TV, For example I usually picture either the spaceship from Alien or the Millenium Falcon whenever I read about a spaceship in a sci-fi book. Generally I just don't daydream often and if I do it's usually tryig to answer deeper questions or recalling a previous conversation rather than thinking of an idea. Planning wise, generally I think of it in a list as you say, but I can't picture me doing any of the steps
it boggles me that you can visualise that much man i had never heard of aphantasia before and now im pretty certain i have it to some degree.i cant conjure up any images if i close my eyes and if i try really head i may get a dark silhouette at best. i still have a vivid imagination and do day dream constantly i often end up enacting or simply walking around as i do to allow the visualisation. i can imagine myself doing things but cant picture myself doing them.
As a person with hypophantasia (just this side of aphantasia), I appreciate the minds-eye discourse. Sounds like ross and trott may have hypophantasia (the 'flickering' aspect of it is familiar, but for me it's more like everything is filtered through extremely dark glass).
On the conversation of wisdom teeth removals; I had a a very similar situation to uncle smaffy. Impacted, lots of attempts to get it out etc, but it all went fine. Then it didn't heal and kept bleeding for like 6 weeks and I was like "Am I dying?" But it turned out there was still a chunk of tooth in there stopping it from healing.
I'm going to make a prediction before watching. Smithy takes an early lead, then loses horribly. Trott dominates until he makes a simple mistake, then Ross come up from behind and takes Trott like a sailor.
For the imagination part, I really struggle with imagination eye like it will take me ages to make an image in my head and requires so much to keep it, its very strange and hearing how people can just imagine something clearly blows my mind but if you asked me to describe it would be even worse so much detail would be missing and it would slip my mind if I started
render distance is a setting you can tweak, im not sure who setup your settings but that needs turning up to stop certain prop types from popping in like that, its not something set on a per map basis its a player setting
Wisdom teeth are a pain. So normally they are your third molars. For me they came in in place of my second molars, and then I had third molars come in.
Thanks for giving me a little ego boost in regards to my ability to imagine things and maintain that imagery in my head, Trooooott. I can also remember certain dreams as if they were real memories. I've always found that kinda interesting.
As someone with Aphantasia i couldn't imagine any of the images that you 3 described :) And no, it's not a practice thing. I practiced a lot but still nothing
Yeah, any time someone tries to say "Just practice!" I want to throttle them. I have zero mental image. I've tried, really hard, to generate one. Aphantasia is a real thing, not just "huehuehue just be better huehue". It's like telling a depressed person to practice being happy. That may work, it probably won't.
I was eating a sandwich while watching, the bollocks and Ross's dog talk, fiiiiiiine, no issue. Smith's wisdom tooth chat....I had to put the food down for a moment
When I got 3 of my wisdom teeth removed (in the same appointment) they knocked me THE FUCK OUT. I remember a blur of being wheeled to our car and getting in, and waking up on the drive home with everything feeling like 5x slower than it was
having watched this video I've determined I've been both blessed and cursed by having no wisdom teeth but aphantasia instead -_- At least I can't visualise smiths graphic tooth-pulling I guess!
Smith I had the same experience, except I went under when the did it but after it got infected they had to use local anesthesia... and it still hurt I don't know how any of you people who've had wisdom teeth taken out without going under managed it. Kudos to you
Ive practiced meditation sine childhood. I can conjure entire worlds and then enter them, feel the heat and air, hear the sound. The issue is that it puts me to sleep relatively easily.
Am supposed to get the wisdom teeth remove too and never did it to scard... and i have Crooked tooth that supped to be removed but its on the narve and if its not removed safely i can have narve damage and not feel my face!
Please look at the settings for the game, there's a draw distance one which sometimes bugs and gets set to the lowest setting. This is why your boxes and logs keep popping in and out
My mind's eye is pretty good I think because I always have vivid interpretations of what places look like in books or before i go there in real life etc and often am confronted with weird deja vu which I think is because I imagine / picture places so much before going that some of it is bound to match up in real life. I don't physically see anything though but it is tangible for me personally. Like I can imagine an irregular shape and look at it from different angles.
Down to one wisdom tooth left, the first three all had to be removed surgically because my roots are deep like Treebeard's. One really chill removal, one under sedation so I don't remember it at all, and one 45 minute ordeal like Smiffy, along with a stupid number of novocaine injections during. 2/10 can't recommend brush your teeth kids
man i must be lucky or just well trained via reading cause i can see a perfect beach and sunset without straining and can keep it for as long as i want
Jeeze, that seems like one heck of a wisdom tooth removal... I had an impacted wisdom tooth and it pushed up against my one tooth and shattered it. I was eating and then felt intense pain and noticed I was missing a portion of my molar. They removed both those teeth and another wisdom tooth and it took like 8 minutes (from when I arrived and left it was about 25 minutes). Felt fantastic honestly. Yours sounds far worse than mine even with the problems I had.
My ex's brother HEAVILY projected his masculinity onto his dog. He acted like he was personally insulted whenever someone explained the reasons to fix your pets (which he never did). Like a really insecure "macho" guy who thinks he needs to defend his masculinity against every random person calling him "gay" or "a girl". It was kinda funny, but mostly VERY cringey. What made it more funny, though, was that this dog was like a tiny little chihuahua/rat terrier mix. It was probably one of the LEAST "manly" dogs I've ever seen (other than, like, a toy poodle with the 'do).
It took them 90 minutes to get my one impacted wisdom tooth out. My jaw hurt from how much pressure it got from all the pulling, pushing and drilling it in pieces. The worst part was the lips though, the dentist had massive sausage fingers and they had to call another dentist in to pull together cause it wasn't coming apart. Seriously the lips hurt worse and took longer to heal than the missing tooth that needed stitches
god.... trott might have just made me realise i have Aphantasia. i was never really able to visually conjure up an image. its why i was always baffled by artist being able to put images to paper. i assumed it was a skill i was lacking and that when people said. "picture in your mind ..." it was a sort of metaphor not that one could actually imagine colors and complex shapes. i cant even conjure up a simple color. Or am i getting this wrong?
When I had my wisdom teeth out, they put me under at a hospital. Didn’t feel a thing, and they took them all out. Only one had a problem, but they decided they should all go.
Pfft wisdom teeth. I had all 4 of mine removed at once as they were all sideways and impacted. A fine day in hospital and several weeks recovery, I feel the pain smaff
I was super lucky with my wisdom teeth. Despite having 4 of them on my upper jaw (instead of the usual 2), there were no complications. They knocked me out and I woke up and my mouth felt better by the next day. No infects, etc. My only regret is that I forgot to ask them for my teeth because I was curious how fucked up they were since they were literally deteriorating in my mouth (which is why they had to come out)
ross if it makes you feel any better, getting a male dog fixed is a suuuper minor procedure and also... theres prosthetic testicles for dogs. if it bothers you that much, visually.
Oof Smiffy, I had an impacted wisdom tooth, removed 30 years ago. The worst pain I've ever experienced was the three days after........still triggered!!
I had to have all 4 wisdom teeth removed. They had to scrape away my gums because they were growing into my jaw then broken apart. I looked like a chipmunk for quite some time. Also I swallowed a piece of one and puked on the ride home.... good times
Are you saying that you got given a general anaesthetic for a dental procedure?? In the UK, that would usually be illegal because of the risk of complications. It was made illegal after people literally started dying from errors made by dentists...
