In this video we take a look at a target that was shot by two different shooters, using the same rifle, same ammo, same equipment. The point of impact should be the same, right? littlecrowgunworks.com
Very cool to compare shooters and techniques. One thing to point out, I have a working theory that James Engleman describes shooting off a tripod that a person will get a rise in their point of impact due to “barrel whip”. That can be reduced, if not eliminated, with clamping the tripod directly to the pic/ARCA rail where you would normally clamp your bipod for prone shooting and pulling the rifle into the shoulder. In heavy magnums, using a spikes clutch knob to increase that rearward pressure into the shoulder has really improved my shooting. Would be interested to hear your feedback on this one if you have time.
@andrewpurcell6153 The rise is due to the fact that the buttstock is not as well supported off a tripod as it is when prone or on a bench. So during the dwell time, when the bullet is traveling down the barrel, the buttstock is dropping, causing the rifle to seesaw on the tripod, adding unwanted elevation. Usually on the order of .6 to 1.3 MOA, depending the shooter and how much they grip the rifle.
The second target on the top right. No argument, just seen many shooters "pull" a shot and not call it. I`ve also seen them chase impacts all over the board, not call them, and blame everything except themselves, never geting the rifle zeroed. I don`t often hear the term used, yet it is extreamly useful in precision shooting. New shooters don`t know that, as was the case with me at one time. But you`re point was well made.
We don't chase impacts. We hold center on the white dots as best we can and let physics do the rest. Keep in mind, we shot this at 200yds so the dispersion would be more obvious. Making it easier to see how the different variables and shooting positions can effect impact location.
Another good video! Many might not have ever thought about this, and it can keep them from chasing their tail. If you don't know, you don't know. This type of info goes a long way. Appreciate it. Thank you. (Nice groups)
Thanks Mark! It was one of those things that Dale and I knew intuitively, but never actually tested it. It was cool to see the difference. I think at 100yds it would be difficult to see. But at 200yds it's obvious.
Just catching up on some of your videos. My son and I shoot one minute, at 100, different. Always have, but a good point made as to why you should not trust someone else too sight your rifle. BTB, was that high right shot called?
If you're shooting deer sized targets at short range, it doesn't really matter. But longer shots on smaller targets, can cause a miss, even if the shooter did everything right and it was only the "zeroing error" that caused the miss. Which high right shot? We had zero "pulled shots" on this entire board. What you see, was just the natural dispersion of the shooting system. Thanks for watching.
Great question. With the tripod, we (humans) have the greatest influence on the rifle. On the Bench, we have far less influence. Prone, even less. In general, two points of contact with something solid (not a human) will always be more stable than 1 point of contact. Also, the farther apart those two points are, the less influence we flawed humans will have on the system. Thanks for watching!
