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Can You Ride Aero Wheels In Crosswinds?

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Many people worry about using deep section wheels in crosswinds and often with good reason as it can feel a bit scary when the handlebars twist in your hands. But just how bad a problem is it? In this video, Ollie looks at deep section wheels vs cross winds.
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We’re using some of Zipp’s range of wheels to illustrate this because they are one of our sponsors, and because they have poured a load of resources into actually trying to make deeper wheels easier to handle in windy conditions, but many of the points apply to other wheel brands too. The reason we’re tackling the subject is because disc brakes are encouraging more people to use deep section wheels year around. In poor conditions, rim brakes trash your rims, but when you eliminate that wear, there is no disincentive to carbon other than the initial outlay.
It’s first important to understand what causes deep wheels to feel unstable. So here’s some science. The tyre is the leading edge and splits the air. Behind the tyre, the rim controls the airflow helping it come together smoothly at the trailing edge… This reduces drag and makes you faster for the same effort. This tends to work fine when the wind is at 0-1 degrees of yaw, which means head on. But as soon as the yaw angles increase such as with cross winds, problems arise. This is caused by the air flow suddenly detaching from the rim, causing a drop in pressure and turbulence forms an area of low pressure behind the rim. An area of low pressure behind the rim, effectively sucks it backwards. This aerodynamic stall is a similar concept to that on aeroplane wings.
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@gcn 5 лет назад

Do you ride deep section wheels if it's windy? Let us know. 👇

@spongebobtentacles5393 5 лет назад

U dont have even deep wheel

@mayureshrao2270 5 лет назад

Oh yeah I do , makes me stronger in crosswinds !

@thijsvandenbroek5333 5 лет назад

I do 6cm deep Wheels

@veloriderkm 5 лет назад

I did for about 4 years (always deeper than 60mm). Wasn't ever overly dramatic and I only switched to a shallower set to compliment my lightweight build.

@davissoggin2825 5 лет назад

Global Cycling Network Will

@john_john_john 5 лет назад

"We're using Zipp wheels because... they're one of our sponsors" This honesty is why I love GCN and GMBN.

@gcn 5 лет назад

Thanks John!

@cool_riding 5 лет назад

They have to by law disclose when they are advertising a product.

@honza3304 5 лет назад

@@cool_riding haha, small text notice is enough to meet the law. Saying it loud is way more honest way because it goes in the same manner as the content. Not hidden at all. Thumbs up for it :)

@ktbartholomew 5 лет назад

you had me at "they make a cool swooshing noise"

@gcn 5 лет назад

Haha yes!

@viethknorr5389 3 года назад

They had me too

@jr4031 3 года назад

Zipps go brrrr

@earthstick 5 лет назад

4:33 - 4:42 This years award for the most considerate overtake goes to K114 GRP.

@xmxu7779 4 года назад

Because there's a car in front of Ollie and that driver was confused AF

@bikeanddogtripsvirtualcycling 5 лет назад

Ollie's explanation of aerodynamics, crosswinds, yaw angles etc is as interesting as Neil deGrasse Tyson discussing astrophysics and the universe - it makes us want to learn more. Good show old chap!

@gcn 5 лет назад

Glad you approve! 🤓

@danfuerthgillis4483 5 лет назад

bikeanddogtrips Actually no the Earth is not a Pear. And this guy here is not assaulting his students unlike Neil "sex freak can't explain Gravity " Tightassson.

@mscbijles1256 5 лет назад

Danfuerth Gillis You mean you don't want to accept his explanation of gravity? Also, baseless statements like yours, could you stop that please?

@danfuerthgillis4483 5 лет назад

MS Bijles lmfao he could.not explain what Gravity is or how the Earth is now a pear Shape. Stop believing these deceivers, real scientists are not actors on Television.

@danfuerthgillis4483 5 лет назад

MSc Bijles Neil "women gripper " Tyson never mentions Density, Bouyancy, terminal velocity, and the most Important aspect of what we perceive as gravity : Inertia which actually explains what gravity is. It also explains that 2 different masses will not fall at the same time going higher into less density . This explains why 2 objects dropped from 35,000 feet will not hit the ground at the same time . The reason why it works from smaller drops is again Inertia has not reached Terminal velocity which is the point of equilibrium with Density and Bouyancy. Anyone who talks about gravity and does not mention the Density and Bouyancy aspect of what we feel as gravity should lose their teaching licence.

@benrolle622 5 лет назад

I cant even afford carbon rims wait I dont even ride road bikes WHY AM I WATCHING THIS?

@GCNuser123 5 лет назад

Haha - Brilliant

@cliffordromina3527 5 лет назад

Keep watching and you will be riding one soon..

@simedinson984 5 лет назад

@@cliffordromina3527 yea i did that misstake and i got hooked

@MaxMustermannnnnn 5 лет назад

Stop watching this... I began 1 year ago to watch gcn, few days later i bought a road bike. Yesterday i got my €11000.- Madonne 😍

@simedinson984 5 лет назад

@@MaxMustermannnnnn well yea i got my self a 1200 bike but that is 2 months of me living with rent and food counted in so thats pretty massive to and damn 11000 i wish i had that amount of money to splash

@inigoh 5 лет назад

Oli's transition to GCN has been excellent. Wasn't that much of a fan of his stuff CW but what he now does for GCN is exceptional, nearly at the Matt Stephens level! Keep doing what you're doing 👍🏻

@isaacyoung1868 5 лет назад

So glad Ollie got in with gcn... Ollie=my fave

@outandaboutDave 5 лет назад

Yeah I just decided that Ollie is my favourite presenter with Simon a close 2nd

@Stigwoodjohn 5 лет назад

Like his impersonation of Fred Dibnah.. or was it JS

@neilbalcombe4967 5 лет назад

Ollie's presenting style is top notch. I love these videos.

@zinho993 5 лет назад

kudos for explicit mention of sponsorship and simple explanation of the basics of how twitching happens

@gcn 5 лет назад

Thanks Lorenzo!

@jon4739 5 лет назад

Ollie has become my very favorite presenter. After Matt departed I should have known GCN would step up their game to bring Ollie on board. Way to go everyone! great video!

@chrisl.6158 5 лет назад

Ahhh, Zipp wheels look so pretty darn good! I wish I was able to afford a pair.

@cyberjonesy 5 лет назад

Pfft, I can afford Zipp wheels... But Id have to sell my bike !

@mikeh6286 5 лет назад

There are similar looking options from the east. If you don't weigh a ton they'll hold up fine. They use the high temperature resins and are available in tubeless. I ride them for many years and I remember shaking nervously going down descents and braking, now I just bomb down knowing that perticular rim can take it. Call it insurance by slow incremental cautionary testing. 😂 At least it works... just be patient.

@obtugtxivtub 4 года назад

One of my fellow cyclist bought same Zipp wheels without the Zipp logo. He has taken it up a 12 mile climb and descended without issues.

@jamesd5241 5 лет назад

I dont watch GCN much anymore as i am a triathlete (GTN is better) but i still come to see Ollie. Best decision GCN have made hiring him

@LaughingSaint66 5 лет назад

MH-370 we all have a man crush on Ollie 😂🤙🏽🕺🏻💪🏼

@StefanoPelinga 3 года назад

Triathlon? aka cycling shit sandwich

@ibe966 5 лет назад

I've got a 2019 Venge (comes with 64mm rims), and I have to say that it handles crosswinds very well. The strongest crosswind I've ridden in was around 8 m/s coming in at a 45-60 degree angle and although it was a bit twitchy at times, I always felt like I was fully in control. I previously had a 2018 Roubaix (32mm rims), and strangely enough it was a lot more sensitive to crosswinds. I didn't enjoy windy days before, but with the Venge I don't care anymore. It's fun to ride in any conditions.

@okantichrist 5 лет назад

Ingemar Bergmark m/s is definitely more scientific than km/h 👍

@cliffordromina3527 5 лет назад

Beauty of Engineering..

@llavero5 5 лет назад

@@okantichrist Why?

@lechprotean 4 года назад

@@llavero5 It's 3.6 times better to be precise. Both meter and second are SI standard base units and happen to work with typical wind speeds quite well. It's pointless and unnecessarily complicated to multiply by 1000 and 3600 if you can work with base units instead.

@llavero5 4 года назад

@@lechprotean Why 3.6 times better?. People understand km/h, but not m/s so it's pointless and unnecessarily complicated make the conversion.

@wvudak06 5 лет назад

If I use my aero wheels on the trainer, will i train faster?

@gcn 5 лет назад

At least 50% faster 👌

@cliffordromina3527 5 лет назад

I think the wheels with nodes will..

@RYTHMICRIOT 5 лет назад

Make sure to have a fan blowing straight at you. This way your aero wheels will get maximum benefit.

@dwaynerandolph3565 5 лет назад

ohhh yes, be sure to wear booties. It'll increase your indoor training speed by 2 mph ha ha ha

@sudduthjonathan 5 лет назад

LOL. Just remember that most of the drag comes from your own body. So, first make sure you're riding in an aero position...

@phil_d Год назад

Olly's presenting skills are laugh-out-loud; very formal and polite! He's come along way in 4 years!!!

@nickhumphrey4833 5 лет назад

I like Ollie's impersonisation of a burnley or yorkshire accent. But the flat cap did it for me :)

@MrSoloDev 5 лет назад

Despite Ollie making big efforts to look and sound serious, you're as hilarious as ever.

@alexgalea173 5 лет назад

this is why i love gcn

@jordyd8916 5 лет назад

Ollie, you are the perfect latest catch for this channel. Proof that extensive theoretical knowledge can still provide comprehensible facts. That while maintaining modest of witch a touch of comedy. Please don't ever change.

@OllieBridgewood 5 лет назад

Cheers Jordy! will try my best!

@matthewparkv5004 5 лет назад

I've had a few close calls with "deep" section wheels in winds. Being a light rider I often get twitches when riding in high winds, although I do like the weird feeling of having to counterbalance the bike in a strong crosswind. When I'm in a big bunch and the wind pics up I often sit at the back as I do not want to risk anything or anyone's safety. I also learned the hard way when riding on a windy day when I was riding on a road that was sheltered by long hedges. I had my hands off the bars getting something from my back pocket, there was a gate to a field where there was a gap in the hedges, where there must have been a channel of air, the wind must have been strong enough to catch my front wheel and bring me down to the ground. I was ok but did wrek my bar tape and my shifter.

@sushi_k13l 5 лет назад

I have a 80mm aluminum deep rim, I do a lot of long rides at first the crosswinds was a problem but after a time it feels nothing I guess because I got used to it and made me handle it better.

@stephenwepener4571 5 лет назад

I ride both types of wheels on two different bikes. My 2015 Propel Advance SL has Mavic R-SYS on them, shod with 25 mm tyres. My 2018 Propel Advance SL has the carbon rims on them (DT Swiss with Giant branding). I find in all sorts of winds and riding I am a lot more stable on the new 2018 model. It is not just the rim surface you have to take into account but the types of spokes being used. R-Sys round carbon spokes, Carbon rims bladed spokes. Milage per year around 18 000Km. Riding years; since the age of 4 till now 52 = 48 years. :-)

@GCNuser123 5 лет назад

good point!

@SteveBrill 5 лет назад

That Trek Madone is sooooo gorgeous!!

@jbratt 5 лет назад

It’s nice to see a video that confirms everything I have come to believe from experience. You guys are always spot on. Thanks for all you do.

@richardandersen9259 5 лет назад

Ollie, just a perfect job. So informative, answered many questions. cheers...

@shirtlessGraveler305 5 лет назад

Well said guys. I have the 404s. So everything you describe and explain is well done. Keep up the good work 👍🏻

@richaw6689 5 лет назад

Top science professor Ollie.. I love my 404 Firecrests. I no longer ride either summer or winter bike without DS wheels. My Campag Bora's are great too, though a lot more twitchy as the wind "d'th rise"!

@Fluterra 5 лет назад

My first time riding a Venge with the CLX 64 wheels was in fairly windy conditions. I’m not an expert by any means. It honestly is not an issue. A little bit of twitch in the handlebars during the big gusts is it. You get a lot more benefit than drawbacks.

@sergio895 5 лет назад

Hey!!!! Loving the new lightning setups on the studio. Really feeling more 'familiar' and comfy.

@i2mee 5 лет назад

Useful, informative with the right amount of humour. All you at GCN are amazing. I am new to riding and find the channel very informative. Lots and lots of useful videos on pretty much everything I need to know as a beginner. Keep up the good work!

@gcn 5 лет назад

Cheers buddy, means a lot!

@Alex08642 5 лет назад

Another cracking vid from Freddie Flintoff Jr.

@jpanon1498 5 лет назад

Good stuff Ollie. I switch between DuraAce C35 & C60 wheelsets (rim brake version). The C60's can literally jerk you into the ditch in a quartering crosswind, especially if a fast moving cattle truck passes you on the upwind side. Wow! Talk about 'blowing your doors off'. Another reason I use a rear view mirror - to see what's coming up behind so I can anticipate and react appropriately.

@NewEnglandDirtRoadie 5 лет назад

anybody else ever do an out-and-back and feel like they have a headwind both ways? a while back i was out for a ride directly into a stiff headwind, yet right on the other side of the 2-lane, country road, the flags were indicating a stiff tail wind. certain roadways around me have their own weather systems. no matter what the prevailing winds are, they will ALWAYS be blowing from the south, or SW. depending on which direction the road is oriented.

@tomkunich7654 5 лет назад

Not only do I have the feeling that I'm riding into a head wind both ways but frequently in the area I ride, I do. Headwind going over the hill in the morning and then near noon riding the other way you can tell you're going to have another headwind because the steeper road on the way back blocks the wind and you don't get it until the top. But then instead of getting a nice 25 mph ride down the other side the headwind sometimes limits you to as little as 18 mph. I've finally learned to pay no attention since after I get back into town I get to turn broadside to the wind. When I get to within a mile or two of home I'm generally pretty shot and end up as slow as 12. Old age isn't for sissies and at 74 I suppose I qualify both as old and as a sissy. But it's coming for you guys too. One minute you're in the prime of your life and the next thing you know you're riding slow. But the way I see it is, I may be old but at least I'm slow. That beats the hell out of stopped.

@philipnorton4469 5 лет назад

Crackin' cap lad!

@markalfresco 5 лет назад

Hi, great info as usual but you didn’t mention overtaking vehicles and oncoming, especially heavy goods vans and trucks that create vacuuming when they speed by. Keep up the great work.

@markwatson8783 5 лет назад

I change my Mavic Cosmic's over the winter months, purely for the reason of keeping them clean. I live in Lincolnshire and after Everest it is probably the next windy. The Cosmic 45's work well though. Great vid well done.

@gcn 5 лет назад

Can attest for Lincs' windiness. Yikes.

@kieranberney8620 5 лет назад

Yes Ollie both useful and informative lovely cap too I don't have one in that tweed.

@ronbell7920 5 лет назад

I do!

@louisb7598 5 лет назад

What a nice paintjob on the trek bike !

@petartodorov9202 5 лет назад

So I got this old touring cannondale a few years back and I really hated that the front rim was shallow while the back one wasn't. I thought I should buy a 'nice looking' deep rim for the front ... until I moved to Denmark. The winds here are blowing my current bike with 40mm away. It's scary and I appreciate the person who set the cannondale with a shallower rim in the front!

@PersonaN007Grata 5 лет назад

I got some 38mm, my first set of aero wheels, albeit pretty shallow. And noticed on my very first ride that it would catch cross winds like mad. I had to go from a 90mm stem to a 110mm just to make it somewhat stable.

@99cya 4 месяца назад

a couple days ago i was riding my deep section rims the first time on hilly terrain. on the descent it was a little bit windy (not much imo) and it was terrifying. i had to slow down considerably. i must say, that was very comforting.

@Pratalax 5 лет назад

Ollie and Emma, Sci-lords of GCN! If you're really nerding out, I'd recommend taking a peek at what Hambini says about aerofoils - he ain't just about bearings! Thoroughly interesting stuff. I like bikes.

@StuntpilootStef 5 лет назад

Seriously, this video is more in-depth than Hambini's. He completely disregards the wheel as part of a system (apart from the tire+rim combination) and has hardly any mention of yaw angles. People don't ride in zero yaw.

@sandgroper1970 5 лет назад

I have ridden deep section/ aero wheels, My oldest set now replaced were the older V shape and could be rather twitchy frightening in a cross wind, the newest pair the newer type shape were definitely better especially on the wind coming from the quarters rather than directly side on , where you could Stil feel a general pushing

@gcn 5 лет назад

That's a great insight Andrew. Where do you ride mostly, is it windy there?

@spin2win721 5 лет назад

Andrew Sturman I totally agree with you. I just replaced my “V” shaped wheels 2 weeks ago for a pair of Roval CL50s and it’s absolutely night and day. I pretty much disregard any kind of crosswind now even when descending.

@bossg2817 3 года назад

Ollie is the best GCN presenter.

@ECsponger2 5 лет назад

Was hoping for a demonstration by Ollie of getting "blown off your bike entirely"

@singlespeedchronicles7640 5 лет назад

Isn't that why they hired "James the stuntman Lowsley-Williams"?

@drod606 5 лет назад

This channel continues to teach me so much, Thank you

@sudduthjonathan 5 лет назад

Thanks for a very informative and entertaining video!

@steffenstengardvilladsen3740 5 лет назад

I really need some clear measurements/calculations/equations of the lateral force of different wheels (20/40/60mm profiles) and relate that to the total lateral force (when rider and frame is included) The video is just chit-chat and hurrah for Zipp. ...but kudos for being clear about the sponsorship

@neil_down_south 5 лет назад

check out Hambini website .. esp blog post on fastest wheels

@bigbreakfast4230 4 года назад

You guys are awesome! Thank you so much for all the great content.

@gabrielbuenoaoki6119 5 месяцев назад

Very nice vide Olie, I just got a canyon cf slx 9.0 used, came with bontrager 60mm deep wheels, and i am suffering a little with the cross winds, even though I am 90kg, I hope i get used to that 😀 thanks for the video!

@benstanden8784 5 лет назад

I've got 62mm wheels on my summer bike and 47mm on my winter/commuter bike. I've ridden my winter bike with 47mm wheels in winds up to 30 mph gusts (that big storm we had here in the UK!) and didn't have any real issues - I'm 67 kg. It can be mildly twitchy, and a bit catchy when you pass gates/breaks in hedges etc, but it's never particularly bothered me. The only time I've ever had issues are when I got a bit too close to the back of a lorry and got caught in the turbulent wake, the vortex shedding makes the front wheel shake from side to side quite dramatically!

@rasmuswi 5 лет назад

The twitchiest wheels I've ever experienced was a pair of box section aluminium wheels. But that wasn't overly surprising, because I was out riding in a force 10. Currently I'm riding 58 mm deep wheels, so far no problems. Also, I've been windsurfing since the 80s, and before I had my drivers license I used to ride my bike out to the beach when the wind was on, so I got lots of practice riding as fast as I could in gale force winds.

@zambokid89 Год назад

this was the old good GCN content!! Not the crap which they are about now...

@meibing4912 2 года назад

Looking up from Mt Everest base camp to the peak I can confirm its incredibly windy - the wind it changes so fast that you cannot believe it unless you see it. You will want a very light bike for the ascent.

@13Ghandi37 5 лет назад

Ollie, you're a great presenter!

@alexander2212 4 года назад

Great video! Did not know the details behind the aero wheels. Keep up the great work!

@JohnOsCreations Год назад

In my opinion deep section wheels are only for those who race at amature or top level. If you are a cyclist who enters a few sportives each year you do not need to waste money on deep section carbon wheels. They might look good but will do nothing for you if you are unable to reach the speeds to where they perform best. I have the cheapest shimano wheels ( Shimano R500's) on my cervelo S2 for the past 10 years. They are still as true as the day I purchased the bike and the freehub bearings are perfect. I have done 30,000kms on them and have no issues keeping up with lads using aero wheels in sportives. I cycle at around average speed of 28km to 34km per hour over 100km. Save your cash for something else.

@jaycollins6792 5 лет назад

How nice is that trek wow

@leedorney 5 лет назад

Forgetting the effect of spokes ? flat blade spokes will help A LOT as will just a 30 or 40 mm rim...if you're going really fast then yes a big deep rim, but otherwise, no.

@gefloigle 4 года назад

Looking forward to my descent down Mt. Everest. Thanks for the heads-up!

@stevek8829 4 года назад

Maybe 'descent?'

@gefloigle 4 года назад

@@stevek8829 Well, yes. 😛 Thanks for the heads-up! Edited!

@yermanoh 5 лет назад

crosswinds are less of a concern when you weigh 105kg , chinese 50mm wheels ftw

@simonfluendy6200 5 лет назад

Yacht racers have known all about vortex shedding for thirty years. It helps that you can flatten or loosen the aerofoil during a race, but not even Merckx would tweak his hoops while riding.

@MrNeurovegal 5 лет назад

I've spent years seeing GCN videos and still found myself a little perplexed and worried when I see a guy riding on the left side of the road. It still takes me two seconds to manage it in my mind. Human brain is strange. Anyway, I agree with you, I use my Roval 50 all year round, but here, in the south of Spain, winds are almost never too strong.

@joyousland 5 лет назад

We need more humour from MATT please.

@binhminhduongg 5 лет назад

Matt is no longer work for GCN

@benbwaite9858 5 лет назад

I live in a windy city and 40mm are perfect for me, anything over that is unstable and twitchy.

@lawrenceball7171 4 года назад

How windy is windy? I'm in the windiest (Wellington, NZ) and questioning if any depth is worth it

@PaulMoran01 5 лет назад

You want to put your wheels to the test? Come to Scotland, it's windy on the east coast. Some great rides though.

@GMADDEN 5 лет назад

Hey GCN, you guys should test the effect of different cycling shoes with variant levels of stiffness over long(er) climbs/courses, and see how much of a time difference it makes. I really want to quantify how much faster those £1000 Mavic shoes will ACTUALLY make me.

@ThePixelize 5 лет назад

Riding deep section wheels in Holland, year round (with rim brakes, btw). Builds the character, as my riding buddy likes to put it.

@rkop737 3 года назад

Yeah me too, 80mm all year long. Sure we have a lot of crosswind, but so what. It's not as big of a deal as it's described in the video.

@bikeanddogtripsvirtualcycling 5 лет назад

9:30 sorry ollie, but your wind fact is incorrect. The windiest place on earth is my bathroom about 2 hours after a curry

@muhammadfaiz5688 4 года назад

You could have repurposed it when you're riding. Think of it like NO2

@lachyarrighi1797 Год назад

Just as a side note Cape Denison in Commonwealth Bay, Antarctica is the Windiest place on Earth. Cool video though and very informative!

@bentonhenderson382 4 года назад

i think these boys aint heard of a place called Kansas....far as windiest place on earth lol.

@jaredfontaine2002 5 лет назад

Please do a video about aero bikes with deep sections and a climbing bike...

@honza3304 5 лет назад

that bike looks awesome !

@scottishjohn 5 лет назад

Ha ha let Ollie loose on the Science! Definitely is much more of his forte. A good video to have seen but when you live in Central Scotland where now having a roaring South Westerly wind is a bit a rarity and having ridden in conditions where the wind is gusting to 40-60mph (60-100kph) then you are a little more concerned about when and even if you get the chance to run something a bit deeper since you can get blown around in the wind just on a standard box section rim! Think that the most I would go for is around 50mm but that is probably gonna be more for super calm flat days, otherwise a 35mm rim depth is a good all round wheel which is a bit more comfortable. Would be interested to know what difference deep section wheels make for a cyclocross race since they can be run in some rather nasty conditions but you see a good amount of deep sections being used there... Again good video Ollie!

@gcn 5 лет назад

Thanks John! Putting the PhD to practice eh?!

@matthewparkv5004 5 лет назад

I'm from Stirling too mate

@criticalmile5631 5 лет назад

I do use wheels 50's depth in wind all of the time and it is, well, i dont recall one day that it was not windy. 👍 Ollie, however i am noticing the nicely hedged roads you ride and can be sure they are graciously blocking your wind, ah I am envious.

@SimoneChiaretta 4 года назад

Also Belgium is kind of windy :) but i'm 82-ish and on road bike I have a 40ish mm wheel and 90mm on my triathlon bike. And actually, when I add the disc wheel, I feel more stable than the 90mm on the back

@EatMyPropwash 5 лет назад

Ollie, I like ya, but, as a pilot myself, the plane doesn’t just fall out of the sky when you stall it. Other than that 1 cringeworthy comment, good video. 🤘

@gamma_dablam 5 лет назад

It does if you don’t do the recovery properly

@xymonmanzano5565 5 лет назад

That's an beautiful tires and road bike

@cliffordromina3527 5 лет назад

I think you forgot the topic today, the wheels.. 😁😂

@mchaisso 5 лет назад

Use the standard rims in the off season to get an extra 7% training for the same time.

@Kzuke 5 лет назад

I ride medium depth carbon aero rims in the wind but it can get pretty sketchy with strong crosswinds. I'm not afraid of getting blow off the bike like the video says, but more afraid of the front wheel lifting up and sliding out from under my weight on the bars, causing me to hit the deck straight down at speed.

@getshifty 5 лет назад

Im only 62kg, learning to catch the bike when the wind catches it was a skill I had down long before acquiring some lovely deep section spinners...

@TheTonicro 5 лет назад

I really like olly, good one

@gcn 5 лет назад

Naw cheers bud!

@Lehao_TK 4 года назад

You can do few test to finding force winds creating to some kind of (rotating) wheels from some kind of angles.

@ernestoramos2737 5 лет назад

*sigh* you a sick wheel sponsor! ): one day I'll get the 454s

@AlFrash84 5 лет назад

Has Ollie caught Jon's cold? GCN offices need quarantining!

@THEoldgreydude 5 лет назад

Living here in the Fens it's always windy Yes always & always a head wind

@kennethwise7108 5 лет назад

I do and I live in a heavily crosswind area. Just hang on to the bars a little tighter

@okantichrist 5 лет назад

Kenneth Wise let go as your bike enters a ditch 👍

@kennethwise7108 5 лет назад

I'm sure that sooner or later the Zipp 454's will be available in disc versions. The last time I checked they were rim brake only.

@ilanpi 5 лет назад

I've been riding a Zipp 858 front and Zipp 808 rear without too much problems with the wind, pretty similar to my Zipp 303 Firecrest.

@AnvilAirsoftTV 5 лет назад

Oh the joys of riding HED3s in crosswinds. They were bloody fast though :)

@TheILLTechnics 3 года назад

My old 2008-2009 100mm Blackwell Research tubulars make a pretty substantial swooshing sound and stall like you wouldn’t believe in any type of wind lol 👍 🚴

@saveriodipoce2201 4 года назад

Hi.I live in Italy.Most of my riding is along the Tirreno sea.I ride a Tri bike with deep dish wheels.60 front 88 at the rear.Along the sea,it is windy all the time.But, with the round ship wheels, it is a little more challenging with gusting side winds over 30km per hour With the V shape it is hell.So,if you buy any type ,buy only round shape design.

@SR-fm1ft 5 лет назад

Main objection customers have to them is price.

@jjcobas6782 5 лет назад

Zipp are most stable wheels in crosswind ...beacuse they are one of our sponsors $$$$ GCN $$$$$

@yermanoh 5 лет назад

welcome to the gcn zipp show

@steveallen273 5 лет назад

Consistent cross wind ok (up to a point where not safe due to speed of wind) generally ok as you can lean in or use point of elbows. I think blustery, non-predictable wind and also mountains with bends more chall3nging. Observing road surface before bend looking eg for leaf-movement etc can help. Again, pointing elbows seems to lessen sudden wind impact. Steve Allen

@drouleau 5 лет назад

I went back to a shallow rim (Easton EA90 SLX) due to crosswinds and strong gusts in the mountains and canyons of southern California. Way too sketchy for my tastes even with relatively shallow Enve 3.4's.

@64maxpower 4 года назад

Good video

@jason200912 Год назад

Research suggests that it's the front deep rims that are far more likely to gust away the bike and not the rear disc wheel. So basically if you use regular thin rims on the front, you're going to have about the same control. It's the deep section front that reduces the handle, not the rear disc.