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Can you run E85 Fuel in a MK8 GTI? 

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We tested a new MK8 GTI flex fuel tune from the guys over at Unitronic. E85 fuel is something that has the potential to add more power to your car. Without a flex tune you will constantly have to change tunes on your car when you cant get E85. Having an Ethanol sensor paired with a Flex tune means you never have to worry about any of that.
If you want a more in-depth look at E85 please take a look at our previous video
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Thanks to Ian from Reflect Tuning for the Dyno Help
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@Deutscheautoparts
@Deutscheautoparts Год назад
Flex Parts and Tune coming soon - We will link here when available! In the mean time go buy some stuff from ShopDAP.com
@gstag100
@gstag100 Год назад
Great video! Very interested in the Golf R flex tune.
@MichelLopez
@MichelLopez Год назад
Coming soon 😂 hear that last year.
@alexviriot8534
@alexviriot8534 Год назад
Sooo when does the sensor come out hahah
@Red908Neon
@Red908Neon Год назад
Just here to remind people how nice 200hp felt on a 1.8t full bolt on in 2000, what a time
@digitalgulby
@digitalgulby Год назад
I had one of those!
@BourneMiami
@BourneMiami Год назад
18Tneverlose. Lol. I had a 2002 Jetta GLS 1.8T. It started it all for me
@Jonathan_Doe_
@Jonathan_Doe_ Год назад
Cars weighed less tbf though.
@dakloosoudje
@dakloosoudje Год назад
Still in use over here
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 Год назад
@@dakloosoudjeYes. They were a little smaller and lighter, albeit giving up some rigidity though. Even my 2000 Passat wagon 1.8 weighed 3200 lbs. At least GTI has not gotten too big.
@unitronic
@unitronic Год назад
Paul breaks it down so well for all of us. Nice work fellas! We can't wait to get these kits into customers' hands! ⛽🌽
@loganweems7257
@loganweems7257 Год назад
Any plans to offer the flex parts for the mk7 platform?
@PaulChoix55
@PaulChoix55 Год назад
If only ethanol was available at the pump in canada 🥲
@unitronic
@unitronic Год назад
@@PaulChoix55 We hear ya! 😑
@unitronic
@unitronic Год назад
@@loganweems7257 Definitely something we're considering!
@albiedam3312
@albiedam3312 Год назад
Can we run this flex tube 3 with a 1/1+ tune as well?
@helidof9958
@helidof9958 Год назад
The MQB and B9 platforms are so blessed by this amazing ingenuity from the OEM and the aftermarket to introduce smart solutions to utilize it. This otherwise stock car is producing similar power to my FBO E85 IS20 MK7 - which I consider to be perfect for a daily. I'm impressed how easily this gets there on a beta map from a brand known for "conservative" power tunes. Thank you for the great content!
@jonasthemovie
@jonasthemovie Год назад
My B7 1.8T can run on 50:50 93 and E85, as it shifts the LT fuel trim ~15%. Usually my 100% 93 LT on 215hp with TT injectors sits at -4%. That gives me some margin to the +15 LT boost cutoff. The torque increase is noticable.
@wanderer7779
@wanderer7779 Год назад
"oh step fuel line" 😅
@ivanb3303
@ivanb3303 Год назад
Love Ya Paul ..You take the effort to explain for all ..Refreshing to see and Hear
@christophermagner9216
@christophermagner9216 Год назад
I cant wait for this! I have been running the unitronic e85 tune on my mk8 gti for awhile and its great. At e74 my car made 376whp and 431wtq with just the tune and bolt ons. My only issue is having to switch back to the 93 tune when i know im going to be driving in an area that might not have e85, this solves that.
@castromk7.571
@castromk7.571 Год назад
Mk8 gti? Stock turbo?
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Год назад
Any trouble with the transmission holding up?
@christophermagner9216
@christophermagner9216 Год назад
​@castromk7.571 Yes, gti on the stock turbo.
@christophermagner9216
@christophermagner9216 Год назад
​@@Flies2FLLmy car is manual so upgraded the clutch to be safe, other than that you don't really need to worry about the trans.
@castromk7.571
@castromk7.571 Год назад
@@christophermagner9216 that’s cool asf 😂 you also got the dq381 transmission as the mk7.5?
@ThatJaxsonGuy
@ThatJaxsonGuy Год назад
As always, great stuff. Tell Charles I expect to see him do a video of the kit for the R lol. This seems like this is be absolute best idea and option to go with for these cars!
@HumbleMechanic
@HumbleMechanic Год назад
:)
@whatta7793
@whatta7793 10 месяцев назад
Man, the R with this kit, and tune, would be so nasty.. without even doing any actual mods.. simply E85, and flex tune.. drooling just thinking about it
@2810Mad
@2810Mad Год назад
The most I can do is e10. My 1.2t corolla goes sooo fast on it. The 0-100 drops to 10sec. Amazing
@austinedwards1022
@austinedwards1022 Год назад
“E10” is pump gas just say pump gas 😂
@2810Mad
@2810Mad Год назад
@austinedwards1022 yes dude, that's the joke
@keithbowen9561
@keithbowen9561 Год назад
Unitronic were going to release this for the Mk7 - I SO wish they would!!!
@Deutscheautoparts
@Deutscheautoparts Год назад
same.... we got a jetta that would be perfect for it!
@FU-Utube
@FU-Utube Год назад
2 more weeks
@4npushap352
@4npushap352 Год назад
@@Deutscheautopartsyeah the Mk 2 with the Mk7 block 😍😍
@nutsack
@nutsack Год назад
@@4npushap352 pauls is a mk3 I think
@sameftek9799
@sameftek9799 Год назад
That’s some serious power. Congrats! 🎉🎉
@jeffie8696
@jeffie8696 Год назад
I have owned flex fuel cars for a long time and love the stuff. Wish my new Challenger was flex , hope they make a kit for it for when its out of warranty.
@GarageItYourself
@GarageItYourself Год назад
That's pretty cool that someones figured out how to run E85 on the VW ECU. Even more amazing that VW have even made this a possibility!!!!
@audiwankenobi361
@audiwankenobi361 Год назад
I used to add about 2 gallons of E85 to my 99.5 Audi A4 1.8T full bolt ons with a mystery tune i got on Ebay...it was for 18psi so i put E85 in it and set my high boost at 25psi on a KO4. I ran it that way for almost two years.
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 Год назад
This pocket rocket sounds really good on the dyno. Nice wheels and paint color too.
@howardbrandon11
@howardbrandon11 Год назад
6:23 If this wiggling method doesn't work--for example, on an older car with some rust built up like mine, or if somebody's watching this 10 years in the future--there are wiper puller arm tools that exist that can help get the arm off. What you DON'T want to do, that I did, is put too much pressure on the bottom of the windshield, trying to pry it off. That's a great way to break a windshield, and then you might have to spend $400+ on a new one.
@crispyone2564
@crispyone2564 5 месяцев назад
Man that spoiler looks good
@Tommy2Txmes
@Tommy2Txmes 11 месяцев назад
I have a couple questions and they have nothing to do with this video. Lol. So i recently purchased a used 2020 VW Golf GTI which i am guessing is a MK7 because of the year. I also am pretty sure it is the performance package. Red gti on front and back. Red gti calipers. Had no idea it was tuned when i purchased it. All they told us was that it was straight piped. So we have no idea what kind of tune or what stage or anything like that. Recently it has started to have a long startup when turning the key. Sometimes it will start good and sometimes it will not. Second time you turn the key it will start up good. The epc light has came on a couple times. Itll lose power and start jerking when you try to accelerate over 30-35 miles an hour. But if you turn the car off and back on itll usually stop. Sometimes it takes more times than others. I have codes p0302 for misfire in cylinder 2. P0413 for secondary air injection valve circuit open. I switched my 1 & 2 coil packs to see of it was that. After doing so i got the same misfire code for cylinder 2 and cylinder 1 now has a p0301 code for misfire. But now i got another code that is p0300 and it says random/multiple misfire detected. The last code i am getting is p0420 and it says catalyst system efficiency below threshold. Since we werent told it was tuned we were putting regular gas into it. We recently changed that to 91 octane. I changed the sparkplugs. And now have 2 coil packs coming to change them on cylinder 1 & 2. I hope that fixes it. Lol. I honestly do not know alot about cars. Any help is appreciated.
@sszhao11
@sszhao11 6 месяцев назад
Male sure you run 91 or 93 definitely not 87.
@tiagognva4872
@tiagognva4872 11 месяцев назад
Hello , can you try a resonator delete on the gti ? Thx have a great day from 🇵🇹
@stathi13
@stathi13 Год назад
That Uni kit is impressive. Can they build in rolling anti-lag with the fancy tech? Boom shaka-laka
@livelyjay
@livelyjay Год назад
You can use a simple PEX crimp tool for those fuel line hose clamps. Search for "single ear crimp tool" and you'll find them between $10 - $20. Or any friend that has done PEX plumbing should have one.
@1_of_4
@1_of_4 Год назад
Damn those numbers are impressive.
@mqbr22
@mqbr22 Год назад
Love it. You guys never disappoint. I’m wondering what hardware I would need for the R but time will show
@willian4428
@willian4428 Год назад
haha...
@tbrady1291
@tbrady1291 Год назад
Paul, your coolant is looking a tad low at 9:50.
@DeezNuts714
@DeezNuts714 Год назад
Any particular reason you dyno tested with hazards flashing?
@Deutscheautoparts
@Deutscheautoparts Год назад
You need to be in dyno mode which requires hazards on
@eduardosq99
@eduardosq99 Год назад
I always wondered how fuel affect stage 1/2 and stock cars. Really interesting.
@Deutscheautoparts
@Deutscheautoparts Год назад
We did even more in depth testing on stock, tuned on this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-O2ueMjq8Iko.html&pp=ygUDZTg1
@eduardosq99
@eduardosq99 Год назад
@@Deutscheautoparts i was watching it right now haha! Really interesting. Here in Europe we have a bit of a mess, with 98 octane, some countries with 99 octane, and some places with 100. I assume they can give around 10hp without any remapping.
@nutsack
@nutsack Год назад
@@eduardosq99 octane ratings in europe are different than america though i cant remember how it translates over
@eduardosq99
@eduardosq99 Год назад
@@nutsack correct, 93 octane is around 98 octane in europe
@mk8bluebeast
@mk8bluebeast Год назад
@@eduardosq9998 in Europe is Ron rating. It’s the equivalent of 93 aki (Ron/Mon) in the U.S. There’s no difference in the U.S. and the rest of the world (ROW)
@Bladerproblems6772
@Bladerproblems6772 Год назад
Yellow is gorgeous on this car
@Michael-kd4oi
@Michael-kd4oi Год назад
Now I want to get a mk8
@psnmadracer27
@psnmadracer27 Год назад
There's a 20th anniversary edition R on the showroom floor at my local VW dealer. I saw it last week. I then had a dream about buying it that night lol
@jb1555
@jb1555 Год назад
Maaaaate! That t-shirt is killing me! So appropriate!
@suyuanxie8022
@suyuanxie8022 Год назад
So when will you talk about history of BMW's Xdrive AWD system
@MoDeG7
@MoDeG7 Год назад
In every video you remind me how much i would love to have a gti for daily until my bank reminds me i cant afford it ^_^
@Deutscheautoparts
@Deutscheautoparts Год назад
Get a new bank, you don’t need that kind of negativity in your life!
@nickolastiguan
@nickolastiguan Год назад
3:19 this is completely safe - Jeremy Clarkson
@JaredSVX
@JaredSVX Год назад
I hope they make this for the Mk7 1.8T...I have E85 everywhere where I live!
@jrmt6
@jrmt6 Год назад
I used to do an E15 mix in the summer and the butt dyno would feel like how the car boosts in the winter with cooler weather. maybe it was placebo, maybe not.
@joelhendrickson6179
@joelhendrickson6179 Год назад
Fucking love how unhinged paul is 😂
@pierre-lucdoiron1325
@pierre-lucdoiron1325 Год назад
Great video, I wonder if UNI will test E85 on the new R/S3?
@blackhabdoooo
@blackhabdoooo 3 месяца назад
Hello, I would like to ask about my 2022 MK8 GTI S. It has a total of 13,000 kilometers. When I changed the oil, I smelled gasoline in the oil. But I drive 80KM to and from get off work on the highway every day. There is nothing strange about the car. I should what to do
@R19Robbin
@R19Robbin Год назад
I want a mk8 so bad 🔥🔥
@tannerstift1489
@tannerstift1489 Год назад
You most likely will not see any performance gains above 55% ethanol on 95% of setups. The difference from 55-85% of ethanol is MAYBE (a big maybe) a degree of timing. We didn't make anymore power after 60% content with a 2867R on a mk7 flex tune.
@ismaproton
@ismaproton 3 месяца назад
Can 'running a mix of e85 and fuel' help clean engine ? Older golf 1.8t
@erikw9847
@erikw9847 Год назад
Do you need an upgraded low or high pressure fuel pump, or additional fuel rail that feeds into the ports? Or does this set up only require the tune and the sensor?
@Deutscheautoparts
@Deutscheautoparts Год назад
on GTI not additional hardware
@mbobelakjr
@mbobelakjr Год назад
Nope, mk8 come with a upgraded hpfp from factory, last gen mk7 came with a 150bar hpfp vs the mk8 has a 300bar hpfp from factory
@erikw9847
@erikw9847 Год назад
@@mbobelakjr Nice! Maybe when the 8.5 facelift comes out with clicky buttons I'll have to trade up rom my 7.5!
@paladin9933
@paladin9933 11 месяцев назад
Thanks a BUNCH for this video! Quick question: is it still recommended to run a tank of standard gas (93) every 2-3 tanks of E85?
@urs6onfuturas975
@urs6onfuturas975 Год назад
Man I wish you guys stocked C4 chassis parts.
@TXZRO
@TXZRO 5 месяцев назад
How does the sensor mount on after market fuel lines like precision race works
@XtremeBUZZ
@XtremeBUZZ Год назад
Just a question, why did you pick the GTI over the R?
@TopGoose-bf1mx
@TopGoose-bf1mx Год назад
Pretty sure they had the GTI before the R was even available.
@XtremeBUZZ
@XtremeBUZZ Год назад
@@TopGoose-bf1mx that might have been why they went with the GTI, as they didn’t want to wait. If that’s the case, availability would be a good driving point, but if that wasn’t the reason, then that’s why I was curious.
@TopGoose-bf1mx
@TopGoose-bf1mx Год назад
@@XtremeBUZZ I’m 99% certain that’s why. They’re both EVO4 cars and I’m assuming they wanted to get a jump on the R&D for the platform.
@sszhao11
@sszhao11 6 месяцев назад
400hp wheel? That's like a monster tune on a EVO just 10-15 years ago. And this is stock block and stock turbo.
@iiLucus
@iiLucus Год назад
I dont know if I overlooked it in this video. But what mods besides the intake and e85 do you have? Turbo elbow, charge pipes, intercooler? Or can you achive these numbers with just e85 , intake and exhaust?
@justynnoss2786
@justynnoss2786 Год назад
I want vr6 12v content show og stuff
@xXxXFALL3NXxXx
@xXxXFALL3NXxXx Год назад
Can't wait for the "Can you run E85 Fuel in a MK9 GTI?"
@Insertnamehere3000
@Insertnamehere3000 4 месяца назад
Is there engine differences between the gti clubsport and r? I know some of the auxiliaries will be different but are the engine internals different. Eg will a flash of a gti get me to the same point as a clubsport
@Anonymous-kb2bs
@Anonymous-kb2bs 3 месяца назад
What happens if I add a gallon or two of E85 on my mk8 GTI with a stage 1 tune? Will it cause any harm do I need any physical modifications such as an hpfp? Will I see any power difference?
@aaronhempy9906
@aaronhempy9906 Год назад
I'm pretty sure you can plug that into the wiper motor with no issues on the can bus...
@aaronhempy9906
@aaronhempy9906 Год назад
Never heard about the job posting plus compensation..
@busslayer4790
@busslayer4790 Год назад
Do you sell a new oe hose if someone would want to remove this for something like a dealer visit?
@Deutscheautoparts
@Deutscheautoparts Год назад
Sure do we sell all oem parts
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Год назад
Good grief! Can you make one for a 981 Porsche Cayman S? This isn't a turbo, but I'm sure it could make more power. A simple reflash nets 27 horsepower on this 3.4 liter engine, but that costs $1200~! With E85 capability, this would make a good bit more than 27 extra hp and would make it worth the price. Great video! [I'd like to hear what the quarter mile times/speeds are like with the GTI on E85....]
@esu2537
@esu2537 8 месяцев назад
Do I have to upgrade the clutch for it to handle 400hp???
@cryptodynamics7973
@cryptodynamics7973 Год назад
I want this kit for my 40th AE GTI. What is the part number for the unitronic ethanol sensor kit?
@TacocatH
@TacocatH 5 месяцев назад
So if I flashed my mk8 with the e85 tune without the ethnol sensor and gauge on pump e85 is that a no no? Should I wait until I can get those or should pump e85 be fine
@stevenbromley6543
@stevenbromley6543 Год назад
What are you hearing will be the hardware requirements for mk8 R? Please spill the beans!
@kemsleygobey2357
@kemsleygobey2357 Год назад
Hi man sorry for going off topic but can i ask why do some mk8 gti get the old generation Gen3 engine with same IHI is20 and some like the UK/US ones use the new Evo4 engine and Garrett turbo? Not sure if you know why vw will be doing this to their customers by selling them a mk8 gti with old gen engine and turbo with small updates here and there thanks.
@collincutler2278
@collincutler2278 Год назад
Were there other parts/mods done to this Mk8 GTI before the dyno? Downpipe, etc?
@walteramazonas6508
@walteramazonas6508 Год назад
Is it possible to install this flexfuel sensor in a Jetta MK6,5 with the 2.0 EA888 gen3?
@MichelLopez
@MichelLopez 11 месяцев назад
Any one know when is available? I have one year waiting for this.?
@sofielee4122
@sofielee4122 Год назад
how does the ECU know what to do with the flex fuel signal? part of the tune?
@billyjoe3309
@billyjoe3309 Год назад
Can you run Paul in a E85 GTi
@Cutlerylover4life1
@Cutlerylover4life1 10 месяцев назад
Possible for a mk7 golf R?
@ricardocardenas4150
@ricardocardenas4150 Год назад
When will they be releasing the flexfuel kit n tune?
@justinscalfano7796
@justinscalfano7796 7 месяцев назад
What’s the eta on this kit?
@gregoryschwarz2730
@gregoryschwarz2730 Год назад
Would this require an intercooler, downpipe, etc?
@Rubberdinghyrapids
@Rubberdinghyrapids Год назад
How would you like an advert... YES
@TheCd5apple
@TheCd5apple 8 месяцев назад
Where can I get this module ?
@RichLion
@RichLion Год назад
Nice kit for a simple install! Just wondering though -- are other fuel system upgrades required? Injectors, LPFP, HPFP to accomodate for the increased fuelling requirements of E85.
@Deutscheautoparts
@Deutscheautoparts Год назад
Not on MK8 GTI
@RichLion
@RichLion Год назад
@@Deutscheautoparts Must be an awesome OEM fuel system!
@GrizzlyGarage
@GrizzlyGarage Год назад
I hope they can figure something like this out for the Mk7s, sounds so easy to just throw in pretty much
@jort88
@jort88 Год назад
IE has a flex kit for the mk7, but you have to add a pin like they said. I have it on mine :)
@GrizzlyGarage
@GrizzlyGarage Год назад
@@jort88 I’m saying I want one that’s just plug in like the mk8 haha
@jort88
@jort88 Год назад
@GrizzlyGarage OH hahaha, yeah would be nice. Once I past the step of messing with the harness, the rest was easy. ~400hp with the IS38
@ViZ473
@ViZ473 Год назад
Any gains on 91 octane (10% E) ? No 93 here.
@aaronhempy9906
@aaronhempy9906 Год назад
Just full send it.
@kanervatie
@kanervatie Год назад
Is that GTI lowered? What wheel/rubber size are you running?
@Deutscheautoparts
@Deutscheautoparts Год назад
Yes these springs www.shopdap.com/racingline-sport-springs-for-golf-8-gti-vwr31g8gt-racingline.html Wheels are 19s
@joelsanchez1439
@joelsanchez1439 Год назад
Yoooooooo wait wait wait!!!!!😮…. This is a great video and all… BUT , can we talk about VW not color matching the engine bay… REAALLLY VW?????😮😂
@Whiteaudi1
@Whiteaudi1 6 месяцев назад
In Iowa e85 is at every gas station at this point
@calvindison7612
@calvindison7612 Год назад
whats the kit you have on the exterior ...it looks beautiful with it.
@Deutscheautoparts
@Deutscheautoparts Год назад
European Club Sport GTI front bumper
@dannyb9795
@dannyb9795 Год назад
6:51 What is that and what does it?
@TheColonelAdama
@TheColonelAdama Год назад
HPFP required for full e85? I know my MK7 maxes out around e40-e50.
@TRD_Nate
@TRD_Nate Год назад
not for mk8s
@forestmetten870
@forestmetten870 Год назад
Hey Paul is your car still running a stock DP?
@gliphil
@gliphil Год назад
Apples to oranges Paul. A 5 gallon bucket of water weighs more than a 5 gallon bucket of fuel, lol.
@sebastianzink84
@sebastianzink84 Год назад
Why should the Dyno Number be Different in the Summer?! The dyno should recognize it and should consider it in the calculation. 🤷‍♂️
@JordieG8
@JordieG8 Год назад
Anything after E40 and you’ll start seeing diminishing gains. This is because once you run a fuel that gets you close to MBT and making out the turbo there isn’t much left. You’ll hit a certain point where adding ethanol content will result in no power gains, unless you have a severely knock limited setup. You will however continue to see better turbo response due to the extra fuel mass ethanol requires. That more of a linear relationship to ethanol content.
@TraceyAllen
@TraceyAllen Год назад
Can we get a stock 87 to 93 comparison sometime please. Inquiring minds want to know!
@Deutscheautoparts
@Deutscheautoparts Год назад
You shouldnt be running 87 on a tuned car
@tbrady1291
@tbrady1291 Год назад
@@Deutscheautoparts 87 stock vs 93 stock?
@KINGVONFRM063
@KINGVONFRM063 Год назад
Early gang tune tf in
@the-d2506
@the-d2506 Год назад
Its simple... Worse Worser Worstest...
@ceeze9923
@ceeze9923 Год назад
Worser is not a word.
@hillppari
@hillppari Год назад
RU-vidr discoveres flexfuel systems. my old junker can run on E85 if i install it. also brazil says high
@Aleks_Mechanics
@Aleks_Mechanics Год назад
Notification SQUAD!🔥🔥🔥
@fredjones5327
@fredjones5327 Год назад
Shaking lol 😂😂😂
@4BillC
@4BillC Год назад
Hat really sucks is my 2014 Audi A4 is a factory flex fuel vehicle. I'm currently running Intergrated Engineering's stage 2. And since nobody offered a flex tune it's set up for 93. Well experimenting I got the car to 70 ethanol and lost over a second 0-60mph, and 2 second in an ⅛ mile! Roughly 50hp! And again the car is designed for it!
@otterconnor942
@otterconnor942 Год назад
We should call ourselves VWAGots. Which sounds like a slur, but just tell everyone that you offend how it's spelled, and I'm sure they'll understand
@grahamek86
@grahamek86 Год назад
kW is power, not torque ...
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu Год назад
No😊
@wadeepperson6906
@wadeepperson6906 Год назад
I honestly dislike the soundaktor
@sk8too2
@sk8too2 Год назад
Coolant hose over the intake?! Common!!!!!
@smplyizzy
@smplyizzy Год назад
Why ? Ethanol is trash
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