Anyone from Australia is entitled to a replacement device with support, or a refund, if Google won’t keep their word. Consumer Law here is dope if you know your way around it.
I love the comparison you made with modern gaming. It really relates how companies are just ok with promising big and delivering under cooked and we eat it up.
I think 7 yrs won't happen. I think they gonna announce a cut on that promise later. On the other hand, if brands would do and settle for 5 yrs of updates, I think in the tech world, that is plenty of time and I would be happy with that.
I dont think anyone will hold their phone for 7 years. Maximum 5 years. In 7 years I doubt they will have pixel 8 users. I bought mine from a carrier £25 a month for 2 years.
@@abcfx7391you would be suprised. Modern phones can last a long time now even without updates. This aint the 2010s where every 6 months you got a groundbreaking new update that completely transformed the market. The market has matured a lot and other than incremental upgrades you dont see any groundbreaking innovations anymore. I have had my phone for 4 years now and i think it can easily last more
My iPhone 6S plus was supported (and used) for the full 7 years of its life. I have a 14 Pro Max now but I still use the old one and it’s still getting security updates. OS updates were cut off last year. Would love to see this kind of longevity on Android
It simply is not possible. Only 4 iphones are released every year with a huge price tag. But on Android,there are many phone makers, various chip makers and thousands of model released every year. Also most of them are value for money. How can you expect the same from a 1000$ phone and a 150$ phone??
@@sjsabbir_ the topic at hand is Pixel phones - phones that cost 800€+ and are made by the same company that updates the OS. If it's possible for Apple, it should be possible for Google.
@@sjsabbir_bro some android phones even at 1000$USD or around that price only get like 2 years of software updates, luckily my Samsung S20fe still gets updates, but mostly security updates.
@@glaze4629you're joking, right? Marques has had a one on one session with Elon Musk, Bill Gates & others. The very first thing Apple displayed at its conference was a quote of Marques. There's been literally direct implementations of Marques suggestions by tech companies. What are you on about?
@@Gold-lv5ih I agree with both you and @glaze4629, yes Marques does have a lot of influence and is incredibly successful, but at the end of the day, these companies are still going to do what they want. He's still just a consumer to them.
Subscribed because of this video. Have had a pixel 4a and now a 6a, at one point considered the pixel pass and when they announced they killed it before it took effect I decided I'll never get a pixel again. That could have been their plan all along, to never have fufilled this part of the deal. I'm very happy to see you talking about this as I want it to be common knowledge.
@@Writer_Productions_MapI'm not going to have to switch until my current phone breaks down but I'm currently thinking a zenphone since I don't want a large phone
When Apple did major OS updates most times I was surprised that some older phones even got certain updates basically because they were so old. 7 years of updates never was a thing. It just happened. There was never a promise or a pledge. Can you imagine still using a Pixel 8 seven years from now. 😀
It's crazy to me just because that's 7 years of updates which is nearly as long as the Pixel line has existed. Imagine if you had a Pixel 2 that was running Android 14. Crazy stuff
I'm am a Google Fi customer and I am hoping that they don't kill it. I'm in the military and it is the only wireless provider that I can use overseas with no issues. I think they will keep it since they really aren't their own service, but instead use the services of T-Mobile, Sprint (bought by T-Mobile), and US Cellular.
In India we are expanding in this field with "Air fiber" too. It currently has jio and Airtel, top most whales of India network providers. So when there's a competition and need which is a lot here...it is only going to grow more. the main Target here are people who don't have fibre facilities like industrial areas or rural areas.
What a great video, thank you for pointing that out! I was shocked how Google could just kill the pixel pass without any compensation. Big trust issue Edit: people pointing out that Google did hand out a $100 compensation for a new pixel phone + original phone paid off. I didn't know that, thank you.
i got 100 dollars towards a new phone. Not great compensation but something. not to mention i am grandfathered in to the discount for all of the services included.
@@prestonjohnston7800 is that 100 dollars still more than you ever actually paid/contributed to the program? If it's less, then screw Google for the ripping you off. If it's more than yeah it sucks, they still shouldn't have done it, but at least you got more than just your money back. Does that make sense?
Out of all companies, from experience, Apple is the one that has the longest support. This year, they updated my old iPhone SE 1 with iOS 15 something security update. I was like wth! That thing is ancient and I only keep it as a collectors item now but it’s cool how they still care about it to some extent to keep it safe
The "coming soon" thing I've noticed as well in many reviews, but also in a sense that companies send "pre production units", so when reviewers find software bugs and say xy doesn't work, they'll also say "well this is a pre production unit, so we can't really criticize that issue, MAYBE it will be fixed later"
I think Google's best comparison to this is their support for Chrome OS support. If they can do it for chromebooks, I don't see why they can't for the pixel.
Because Chrome OS is really just a fork of Google Chrome browser, built on top of Linux.... They can say they support it for 10 years if they want to, or whatever how long the Linux support they are using will last. Pixel is still more of a side project for Google. I remember when Stadia is launched, people points out that Pixel lasts for so long too, then Stadia got killed 2 years later.
Brother you been teaching me a lot over past 2-3 yrs, I’m trying to break/learn tech at 52 and and everyday it’s either good/ bad news confusing at times, but thank you for your support; it keeps me motivated, all the blessing to you brother.
What 7 years of software support says to me is that they no longer expect revolutionary updates to Android over that time. Instead it will just be more iterative updates. Obviously that's been pretty clear for a while now, but this is the clearest statement from Google yet about it.
That's very obvious. Devices are each day depending more on cloud processing, and that doesn't cost performance from the device itself. That's not the future, that's now. Google knows that because they're leading that movement alongside some other big companies. But that's not the point. Even though the device is still good enough for Android 20, will Google commit so many devs to updating Pixel 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14 to the latest Android? I don't think specs are the problem here.
What kinda "revolutionary" updates would you even want? Android has been updated for almost 15 years. Its not gonna have a "revolutionary" updates ever again.
I’m a computer engineering student in my junior year. We had someone from Google come talk to us today about internships and I straight up asked him how secure he feels the jobs are with their mass layoffs and how often they kill services. He was kinda at a loss for words but said they do try to move developers to different teams when projects get axed. He clearly loves his job but wasn’t too confidence inspiring about my prospects in an entry level position
The biggest benefit of working with Google by far is simply having Google on your CV and using that as a major stepping stone to a bigger role elsewhere and demanding a higher wage. In this case it doesn't really matter if Google axe you when they kill services you work on, as long as you have that reference.
I work at Google. I worry about (not really because I don’t really care if it happens) a project getting axed, but not if I will still have a job. Projects getting my axed at Google is so so so common, it’s a part of the job. You just get switched to a new team. Not worried about mass layoffs since although the raw number is big (15k employees fired), the percentage isn’t that big imo (6-7% fired). This isn’t much different than jobs outside of tech.
Thanks for calling out google. I rely so heavily on google products but always live on the edge of not knowing if i'll be able to use a service. Your reaction to their 7 year promise was the same as mine. No way they will support the phone for so long, in 3 years tops they'll annouce that its going to be the last supported year for the phone and they'll continue to erode the trust of their users.
While it's one thing to not trust Google for random smaller projects, you have to remember that 1. Google will continue work on Android 2. The Pixels are on their 8th generation. They've shown commitment to the Pixel series, there's no reason they can't support them for another 7 years.
Most probably they will support it for 3-4 years, then make a post with an apology and maybe give you a good deal to trade in that phone for the latest pixel 12-13 or whatever.
FWIW, Google Fi is offering a huge discount of $300 off the Pixel 8 and $400 off the Pixel 8 Pro for existing Fi users. And if you sign up as a new Google Fi user, you get $700 off (so the Pixel 8 would be free). Great deal.
I think Google should be able to handle 7 years of OS upgrades without much trouble. If you're into custom ROMs like I am, you'll notice that after getting 2 years of OS upgrades from the OEM, you can often get 3, 4, or even 5 more years of upgrades from the custom ROM community.
Custom ROMs are usually more UI focused, the OS support that Google and Apple are doing is more of the boring but essential, it’s not flashy nor will you notice any changes. Custom ROMs also don’t handle security patches as frequent nor can they do hot fix patches.
@@shaggydawg5419I recently replaced my Pixel 3a after owning it for 5 years. It finally got problems that I decided was too much trouble to repair and better to replace. Although I don't know what phone will last 7 years, I imagine it is definitely possible.
Availability of updates was one of the key factors that kept me on iOS and in the Apple ecosystem. Android was always hit and miss. Similar with MacOS, the free updates for years from Apple really enhance the value of the product.
@@user-cl6tg6cg4yand people have been using win10 on their 20 years old systems as well. Any system with a even P-III can run it. For iOS yes Apple has great support but on Mac side it lacks behind.
What I can remember Apple has never ever promises "this or that many years of OS updates for each new iPhone" but we can look back at their history and see how they've done. That's why we can put "6+" years or whatever it is. 6+ is not a promise from Apple. That's what we can expect based on history. Apple has already proved that they can support phones for really long. Google doesn't have that proven history, at least yet. Nokia is missing from the summary in this video and I know that Nokia now last years is promising that each phone will get X years of OS updates and X years of security updates. 2-4 years I think. No idea if they keep their promises. As I see it, Apple is the leader in this area and they don't even promise anything. Apple is the king of building up TRUST, and they do it by delivering and not by promising. This is a big reason why iPhone is selling so good. Anyone knows how many years of OS updates all previous Google Pixel phones received? Would love to see a summary for all those phones. Maybe it's available on Wikipedia? Worth noting: the very first iPhone only received 3 years of OS updates, right? Then every new iPhone model got longer OS support and now it's around 6 years. I'm not sure exactly how many years it is. Here's how I do: I buy an iPhone model that I wanna buy. I use it as long as the battery is okay and the phone itself is okay. When I feel that the battery is no longer good enough so it's a big problem, instead of let someone replace the battery I simply buy a new iPhone and when I buy a new iPhone I get a brand new battery! Every new iPhone for me is kind of s "battery replacement". After a few years with the same iPhone model, the lastest iOS and the updates apps are heavier for the phone. Everything will run slower, not faster. Maybe some exceptions. So getting a new iPhone also means: + faster CPU + faster RAM + maybe more RAM + everything is more powerful I often wait as long as possible to buy a new iPhone and I buy an affordable model. iPhone SE is a great value product! I know the camera sucks, especially in low-light so good luck to take a photo of the moon at evening/night 😂 but I'm fine with that...
@@cjeeldeits also the fact that their longest supported phones (6s / 7) had puny specs and outdated design compared to today and still got all the updates. Imagine how long they would support something like the 15 / 15 pro with almost m1 macbook level performance and specs. Its possible they support them for 10+ years.
Regarding Google Fi, I've been using it on my last 2 phones (both pixels) for about 3 years now and am quite happy. I can sure understand your concerns about switching though, given Google's history. Hopefully it sticks around.
I am very pleased with my A54 i bought the 8GB ram and 256 storage . Samsung offering 4 years of os updates and 5 security was one of the reason also your video on the A54 helped me .. Wish you well
I've been noticing that trend in the software world, for every industry, slowly becoming the norm over the last couple decades and I absolutely cannot stand it! I miss the days of companies actually putting effort into a FINISHED product before releasing it. Back in the day there wasn't a choice and bugs couldn't be retroactively fixed. Because they can retroactively fix them today, they do it. It goes beyond that now. Feels like a train that can't be stopped at this point because bottom lines are more important than happy customers....because the customers let them get away with it slowly more and more. So sad.
As a long time Google fan, them killing off features and services is exactly why I'm finally deciding to go for iPhone when I upgrade next year. I'm done being a beta tester, I just want something reliable and with consistent support.
I am (was) a long time Google fan too and I am over their BS. I am moving to Samsung next year. Ironically the "small" thing that threw me over the edge was Google removed guest mode quietly on the Chromecast recently which even further proved they want to force everyone to buy their products that they have a terrible reputation of supporting.
But why choose iPhone for the love of god! The worse company in the smartphone industry No charge brick, no headphone jack, no micro SD slot, no headphones included, no premium packaging... All this we lost in the last couple of years because they are the trend. Get a phone from a company that deserves your money more
Just gotta say.. thank you and your team for elaborating on soft/hardware.. succinct, well presented, and informative.. triple threat my friend- gratitude
I think if they promise 7 years and then don't actually support it for 7 years they can get sued. They never promised Stadia being around in X years etc so I think you can trust them on this.
I was thinking the same thing. A class action lawsuit seems likely if they back out on a promise that may be a deciding factor for many people getting the 8s.
Eh even still they could back out, worst case they get slapped with a class action and it costs them a fraction of a fraction of their overall net worth. So even with them promising it I still don’t buy it.
The catch here is, they said OS updates, they didn't define what the "updates" were exacly, it could merely be an icon pack or some sleazy security updates.
I thought you were going to talk about how Google dumbs down their services every year. Translate, RU-vid, Music, whatever it is, the older apps were always better designed and more extensive.
as far as i know the reason they do this is because you get a promotion in google for launching a product, and if that product isnt supported and gets dropped in a few years you dont get fired they just move you somewhere else
That was a promo just for buyers of the original Pixel (And maybe the Pixel 2, but my memory is foggy there). As far as I know, Google are still honouring that deal.
I’ve used GoogleFi for my iPhone since 2019. It’s gotten better service every year, and I travel internationally a lot. Perfect for my needs. Could be cheaper tho, but it washes out considering it just works when I land somewhere new.
I think google will support all 7 years since they have given some support to previous product owners whenever they kill a project. Even if the pixel line dies next year, the Pixel 8 still exists and there is nothing stopping google to not support the already existing products.
If I could manage 6 years of software update on my old OnePlus 3(considering the Custom ROMs) then I think the marker of Android should be pretty well equipped to do that. Let's hope for the best..
I wonder how well the Pixel 8 and 8 Pro would be at handling software from 2030. Cuz even if they do keep the promise, that is still a pretty big variable. Next thing they say that like after 4 years the phones can't push the software that's available.
i wasn't sure why everyone was skeptical about Google's new update policy because how could the maker of android, the phone and the chipset default on this promise even with their patchy track record. but when you told me about pixel pass and it being cancelled a mere month and a half before from when they were supposed to give that new phone to everyone, i was SHOCKED and can now definitely see why everyone is skeptical. 7 years is indeed a very long time.
It's a tricky one for sure. I switched from Apple's setup to the Pixel one a few years ago now and I'm enjoying the ecosystem with the buds pro and watch v1. However, I was a fairly happy Stadia customer from launch too and was quite gutted when it got dropped (despite the refunds) so there's always that nagging feeling in the back of my mind. Will they ditch these products if they can't beat the competition? Guess I'll have to wait and see...
Has Google been sued over Pixel Pass users not getting their upgrade, or at least a MASSIVE refund for those who signed up initially? Seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen for false marketing claims.
Awesome video. Let alone Google's history, something as massive as 7 year upgrades raises skepticism. They should also focus on after sales services too. The Pixel has so much potential. Hopefully they deliver.
Google is like that one friend that promises they'll definitely pay you back the money they borrowed from your wallet while you were in the bathroom. Fingers crossed.
It's different when a big company makes an announcement and says explicitly they'll support 7 years. Cos otherwise you can sue them. Only projects that they don't say anything. That's what you need to worry about.
Nearly as long as Fairphone is a genuinely astonishing claim, and I hope they deliver. Considering their goals around Pixel it's possible, but at least now all the big players are claiming long support times.
Following you since last 4-5 years.... literally I trust you so blindly because of your transparent reviews and suggestions... You are my idol and make people like me love tech... Love you big brother ❤
The biggest thing I was screwed on was the OnePlus 7 pro 5G within two months had no 5G on Sprint as the murderer had begun and was told would be given a replacement 5G phone which was told to be the s21 then was told oh no that was only for New York State then was told by 1 + that they would at least support the phone and would provide the aod for it when they were finally making it for the 8th that would release it for 7 pro and then was told that wouldn't be coming almost a year later it's just basically bait-and-switch or lie afterlife people need to sue these companies
Don't buy on the promise of future updates is such a good call. My brother and I spent a lot of time discussing whether I should go for a pixel 7 or pixel 8. Pixel 8 costs $900 while 7 costs $500. 7 came with 2 years of support and 8 with 7 years of support. So it was a hard choice with the only thing boiling down to the seven year guarantee since I use phones for long. Used my OnePlus 5 for 6.5 years. We ended up purchasing 7 but it was a tough call so I appreciate this video quite a bit.
I'm basically in the same boat... deciding whether to get the 7 or 8... with my Xperia XZ2 going strong after 5.5 nearly 6 years... the phone is still OK, but the battery is not going through a whole day with my heavy use... I'll probably wait another half year and see what the 8a has to offer or get the 7/8 on sale
I'm considering Pixel 7, 7a, or 8 for my next phone. I'm on Google Fi, and the Fi discounts make the price differences really small! 7a costs $300, 7 with 128 GB costs $350, 8 with 128 GB costs $399. (plus requirement to be on Fi for 2 years).
I spent 300 dollars on nest security. They killed it off last year and coming next year all the support will stop. Not only I lost all my money invested on that, now I have to find a new security system. I will never get google products ever again.
That 7 years of software updates sound a bit more believable since Pixel has moved to Tensor soc and are not bound by Qualcomm's update cycle. It's easier for Apple to update the iPhones since so many people buy them. But to support devices that only a few people buy is much harder and often not make financial sense.
Thank you for this video. I was initially only a little warm to the new Pixel. But the 7 year feature convinced me to go for it. I usually hold onto phones for more than 3 years and in a world where we dont see massive year on year improvements anymore, this would was a big selling point. Now with what you said, Im rethinking my decision.
My friend bought a pixel 3 and the speaker crapped out on him the first few months. it took him many tries with the tech center over the phone for them to send him a new phone. and then it did the same thing. it was a relatively well known error in the community and you can still search for this on the internet. in its final years he couldn’t even make calls on the phone unless he was connected to a bluetooth speaker/mic. similar reason for me switching to apple and we both have never looked back. when people say apple devices just works, they mean it
If you are re-thinking after this video, the only option you have is Apple. If Google fails to continue android, no other company like Samsung will be able to provide updates
I think the reason Pixel phones are getting seven years updates isn't only just to compete with iphone and Samsung. Despite the fact Pixel was first released in 2016 replacing Nexus, Pixel phones simply weren't selling like hotcakes. However since the Pixel done a reboot with the 6 series in 2021, Pixel has gradually took Huawei's place as the biggest non Apple and Samsung phone brand. And because they managed to sell more phones than ever before including the 7 series, Google confidently realised their reboot Pixels have become a huge success. If it failed Google probably wouldn't promise seven years of software updates from the 8 series onwards.
This video needs to gain momentum like a growing snowball! Yes, definitely Google has a huge Grave of broken promises and lets hope they don't pull the rug on the 7 year OS and Security updates for the Pixel 8 lineup. I myself on a daily basis use the Google ecosystem and there are tools they did right but broke them such as Google Play Music VS RU-vid Music, Google claims RU-vid Music is cutting edge but in the consumer p. o. v. it is such a junky app when using it offline on a cellular phone. I order the Google Pixel 8 Pro and I guess only time will tell how long they will keep their promise at their end of the line, if not, the Internet will quickly pick up on this and history will be written with another hole on Google's belt of failures.
Switching to Google Fi (from nearly 15 years on Verizon) is one of the best decisions I have ever made. I travel internationally a good bit and being able to use my domestic plan pretty much anywhere I'm likely to travel has saved me HUNDREDS of dollars a year.
Two thoughts when they made this announcement: they already supported pixel devices for 4 years at least, you're not asking if they'll support it 7 years, you're asking if they'll support it an additional 2-3 years. Still a big promise, but its not as huge as it might seem. Second, they have axed MANY side projects that havent caught on in the main stream. However, I think its safe to say that almost everyone of those examples of cancelled Google products were anything but large in comparison to their main products: Gmail, Spreadsheets/Docs, RU-vid, Search, etc. I'd argue that Android support for their mainline device is not in the same bucket as cancelled products mentioned in this video. So while I understand the skepticism, I think it's not as worrying this time around, since it's the Pixel, not some passion project they launched on the side. That said, I think you're spot on about not buying based of promises. At the end of the day, this is a promise, and you should get the device because you like the device, not what they promise the device can be.
Hard disagree, providing support for a phone for 7 years is going to be more more than 2x as expensive than giving it support for 4 years. It gets harder and harder to support a phone as it gets older and older. I think Google MIGHT be able to do 7 years of security updates, but I would bet a lot of money that they won’t do 7 years of OS updates. 7 years ago Pixels didn’t even use Tensor chips, and the architecture of phones was very different.
@@xylo5750 Oh for sure, that's why I said, it's a big ask, but I'm just clarifying what the ask is. It's not asking for 7 years of support as if they didn't already support it for 4ish. For example, If Apple said they'd support their devices for 7 years, you'd say "Of course!" because they already support it for 6. That's all I was saying. And the moral o the story stays the same either way: don't buy the promises, buy the product.
@@xylo5750then why is Google able to do 10 years of ChromeOS updates to all Chromebook? Doesn't matter the specs of the Chromebook, the price, or the brand, Google will update them for 10 years. So no, updating a phone for 7 years, with better specs than a Chromebook of $100 (that gets updates for 10 years) is not difficult.
I hope that's true. I trusted Google to continue supporting the Nexus Shamu back in the day. Oh well. Note* if all you do is calls and media, Shamu with Lineage OS is awesome except for maybe battery life.
Thank you very much for bringing this up again. I love Google (I did develop for Android since the G1) but over the years I started to lose trust in the new products they announce. To be honest today I trust Apple more than Google. And I'm in the middle of deciding which phone I will get next. And this time the Apple phones are on the table as well.
that's the thing with Apple. You can still plug an iPod from 2001 into your 2023 Mac and use it like it's new, restore the firmware and no features were cut. They really support their stuff for an eternity.
This is it. And the older I get the more reliable tech (hardware and software) I'd like to use. So for me there is a good chance that I cancel the Pixel 8Pro and go to the iPhone 15 Pro Max. And this not because of features or hardware. No just because of TRUST.@@PvtAnonymous
Can we trust Marquis. In 2023 is the bigger question . 9out of 10 tech companies pay influencers thru there ambassador program etc Everybody except Google. They can't do it because they own the platforms. They speak from . Sad but true 🎉.
I moved to iOS because my android phones kept getting unsupported after one or two years, so this is great and could make me switch back Just need to wait to see if I can actually trust google on this one before I think about it though
I've been on Google Fi for a couple of years. It's been really good. I was die hard pixel user, and had to switch to iPhone because of needing to get use to it to work on a slew of iPad's for a local company, and I haven't had an iPhone since iPhone 4. Fi works great. Don't get the switching between US Cellular to T-Mobile, but switch was seemless. The app has been crashing on IOS 17, but no call or data issues, just hit the don't report button once and your good.
Most phone user tends to switch after 4-5 years and after that most people don't repair their phone since parts don't drop in price as much as phone itself. So I don't think they will do that long but they have benifits as they rely on AI and need as much as data as possible and since they have lower number of new phone user so ideally they keep the old one running with new features to have huge databank. But again it depends how long they want your data.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Tesla in discussing the “coming soon” features. They’re industry leading in selling hardware with well hyped features that are “coming soon” and that come super behind schedule if ever
Marques offers great analysis and is a true voice for us, the small customers. They claim to offer 7 years of support for Pixel phones, but the phone's battery typically lasts a maximum of 3 years. Furthermore, they seem to cancel projects if they don't generate billions in revenue, which can come across as elitist and disappointing. However, for those who are Alphabet shareholders with hundreds of billions in the bank, perhaps one billion seems insignificant. It's also worth noting that they appear to show less concern for users outside of the United States. Consequently, more and more people are choosing to purchase iPhones and are not even contemplating a return to the Android ecosystem.
I think the only mistake here is what you said about iPhone’s Airdrop transfer. You can already use it. The same day the update came, it was available to use it.
Well done Marques but this is a joke, 100% a joke, let me explain: 1. Who in the world is gonna keep a Pixel phone for 7 years? 2. You have to change at least 3 batteries on that thing to run for 7 years. 3. What features exactly google can bring to a 7 years old hardware? 4. If you are just considering security patches then, maybe, but Apple has being doing that for longer than 7!
This is why I go back to Apple this year. When I bought my pixel it had a face unlock option. They killed it because it wasn't that safe. But I used it. They don't give a shot about the customers
5:25 "[...] seven years of software updates [...] most ambitious software support plan [...] in the smartphone world." Well, maybe in the US smartphone world. Europe has the Fairphone 5 with 8 years of software support and the company to back it up. Fairpone 2 got a new software update even years after the official support stopped.
I know that corporations write exclusion clauses in their agreements that basically give them loopholes out whenever it's convenient for them. However bringing issues like reneging on replacement of phones to the forefront (court if possible) would bring undo harm to their brand & hopefully to their financials as well. If challenged in court it may well be deemed that writing a contract that gives a corporation an out at any time for any reason maybe illegal to begin with, making the contract null and void and forcing the company to live up to it's original commitment! Ok I realize that the above is a dream but in the immortal words of a great man (MLK) "I had a dream"