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Can You Use QUANTUM Rudders for Space Propulsion? 

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Today I wanted to see if the NEW quantum rudder can actually be used to propel a ship through space! The new Trailmakers Spacebound update brings lots of cool new parts and thus new ideas and I am excited to dive further into it. Make sure to let me know what you thought of the video in the comments below and I hope you enjoyed watching it as much as I enjoyed experimenting!
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@darthpingu429
@darthpingu429 7 месяцев назад
The hoverpads were infinitely lifting you up because they were above another block. To hover correctly, the hoverpads need to be the bottom-most blocks.
@sirlordofderp
@sirlordofderp 7 месяцев назад
I made a flyer that utilized this, really stable too
@darthpingu429
@darthpingu429 7 месяцев назад
@@sirlordofderp Project STORM did a good tutorial for using this mechanic (which is where I learnt this from)
@user-zw5kt8ik2g
@user-zw5kt8ik2g 7 месяцев назад
New unlock: UFO engine.
@DeadBread.
@DeadBread. 7 месяцев назад
The TM community has named this glitch the UFO engine. It's really useful for super fast aircraft
@darthpingu429
@darthpingu429 7 месяцев назад
@@DeadBread. Yeah, I've used these for really fast dragsters before, but I'm sure better players have utilised it far more than I have.
@DrVoodoo
@DrVoodoo 7 месяцев назад
Now I wonder how fast you can make this thing by spacing the "quantum wheels" really far apart
@ghostraptor2607
@ghostraptor2607 7 месяцев назад
Very, very fast!
@nikkiofthevalley
@nikkiofthevalley 7 месяцев назад
So the pro is that it has a cool name. The con is that it's slow as hell. Edit: Oh, the speed is dependent on how far the rudders are from each other. Hm. That makes me curious if you can use a piston to throttle it. Something to test once the space update is out, I guess.
@jionixel1530
@jionixel1530 7 месяцев назад
I guess that's tomorrow (October 31st)
@baileyautryproject4091
@baileyautryproject4091 26 дней назад
Omg since the quantum drive build Came out we can try this
@vale.44peru63
@vale.44peru63 7 месяцев назад
I think the reason this setup, generates movement is because the "rotors" are trying to spin the craft, BUT since every rotor has another rotor countering its rotational movement, essentially instead of completely cancelling it transforms into Linear motion (idk why or how, it makes no sense, but it looks like thats what's happening); so the power of the setup is essentially the Torque generated by the rotor with the craft's CG, the greater the arm from the CG the greater the Torque, more Torque = more power = better Power/Drag ratio = higher speed
@Elijah1573
@Elijah1573 7 месяцев назад
Yeah i figured it was something like that and not actually the quantum rudders I wish he replaced the quantum rudders with normal blocks to test it
@vale.44peru63
@vale.44peru63 7 месяцев назад
@@Elijah1573 for rotors I meant the whole assembly, like the helicopter motors + the quantum rudders, i'm not saying that the quantum rudders arent doing anything
@llwestll
@llwestll 3 месяца назад
Search up Ward drive that's actually what it is and how it works 👍
@cenakaze
@cenakaze 7 месяцев назад
I'm guessing the distance has to do with the moment of force generated by the rudders, the further away the greater the torque
@A_very_bad_youtuber
@A_very_bad_youtuber 7 месяцев назад
Maybe the thruster has something to do too
@Josoysauce
@Josoysauce 7 месяцев назад
The reason that the proximity matters is simply bc they cause drag in space, meaning they're pushing energy to move. The proximity determines how much energy the engines are fighting from each other, which overall effects the top speed
@llwestll
@llwestll 3 месяца назад
​@@Josoysauce no that's not why they need to be far apart, good guess though
@justarandombird
@justarandombird 7 месяцев назад
And once again Kosmo manages to amaze us with an amazing new form of propulsion and making a ship that would even make RCE proud. 😂
@maurer3d
@maurer3d 7 месяцев назад
10:24 That is the Hoover pad glitch since you have it inside the vehicle it is seeing the piece below and pushing off that instead of the ground.
@Azi_OS
@Azi_OS 7 месяцев назад
Now I want to make a *Space Paddle Boat*! Also, you need the Jetsons Spaceship sound effect for that engine!
@kylewallace9341
@kylewallace9341 7 месяцев назад
This reminds me more of a tug boat than anything else. Something slow but powerful in order to move larger ships around.
@darealkosmo
@darealkosmo 7 месяцев назад
My friend said the same thing :)
@llwestll
@llwestll 3 месяца назад
​@@darealkosmo you should move the rotors apart the further they are the more speed you get
@edopronk1303
@edopronk1303 7 месяцев назад
The trails look brilliant. There should be an option to let them stay longer. And I want to try to make more patterns that are beautiful like that.
@BleachWizz
@BleachWizz 7 месяцев назад
try also turning them 90º and having 4. then you'd be pushing trough 2 planes in the same direction, might just double the speed or don't change anything.
@KaneyoriHK
@KaneyoriHK 7 месяцев назад
The quantum rudders spinning, though didn't do much, looked really cool
@ZaneSWright
@ZaneSWright 7 месяцев назад
Can't wait to see what you guys create with more testing. But you could make a cool ship with the spaced out rudders
@metalburger1117
@metalburger1117 7 месяцев назад
Boi, that's mesmerizing, also very funny that an engine with such a name turned out to be slow rather than lightspeed fast xD Also, I'm pretty sure no one in the test branch tried this, so you could say that the Quantum Drive is a Kosmonaut™ original invention
@presidentmichael3349
@presidentmichael3349 7 месяцев назад
This is really interesting. I'm curious if there is a top speed possible for the quantum drive and wonder what spacing from each other they need to be. I also wonder if you could make the quantum drive engine into different shapes. (Triangle, circle, pentagon, hexagon...and get different speeds.) Is rectangular really the best shape? Would love to see a follow up of this where you try more designs and testing.
@EpsilonRosePersonal
@EpsilonRosePersonal 7 месяцев назад
You checked the power, but I wonder if the turn strength would have had any effect.
@QuillDoodle
@QuillDoodle 7 месяцев назад
it does not
@jacksonstarky8288
@jacksonstarky8288 7 месяцев назад
The light shows created by this experimentation are very interesting... and educational about the function of the quantum rudder. And just before the 7 minute mark, Kosmo builds a quantum elevator (and I don't mean the airplane part).
@CobetcknnKolowski
@CobetcknnKolowski 7 месяцев назад
I knew those trekkies were on to something with their engine setup.
@theodoric4270
@theodoric4270 7 месяцев назад
"'Hey, Kosmo, why would proximity make a difference?' 'Well, I dunno, man, freakin' quantum turbulence, okay?'" 🤣
@DemonKing19951
@DemonKing19951 7 месяцев назад
I really hope you build steamboat style space ship after this. It'd be quite fun to see how fast you can get it going. Also! I'd argue the benefit of the quantum dive would be realistically industrial work. If you want to take inspiration from anything, certain forms of mining equipment actually uses basically legs to move because it's too heavy for wheels. The quantum drive as you describe it does not care about weight, can move both into and out of gravity wells with some easy, and retains a level of controllability thrusters don't provide. So it'd be perfect for something like an asteroid miner once it gains enough speed to catch up to them.
@buddysadventuregame1255
@buddysadventuregame1255 7 месяцев назад
Man the quantum drive made this update 10x cooler
@houlej19
@houlej19 7 месяцев назад
The kind of experimentation and engineering I like :) there’s nothing like engineering in a virtual environment on its own physics
@7610143
@7610143 7 месяцев назад
Kosmo now you have to flip that initial working paddle concept side ways so that instead of going up and down, you are moving forwards and backwards. Then build a space craft around that. Maybe even make a cross of 4 rudders or a stack.
@1mariomaniac
@1mariomaniac 7 месяцев назад
I could see that kind of ship being some sort of inter-station transport, some sort of kinda quick way to get from one side of a large space station to another.
@GuilhermeSantos-uz8jd
@GuilhermeSantos-uz8jd 7 месяцев назад
I think ypu dont need to make it spin, you can just put an even number of quantum rudders with the same input and half of it programmed to pitch the reverse direction to the other half. Just guessing
@DemonKing19951
@DemonKing19951 7 месяцев назад
Well yeah but the spinning is cool, but I can see what you mean. If you want to actually minimize the design and use only quantum rudders I'd go with your idea. A set of quantum rudders on the front, back, and a little bit of logic so that they can be used for all directions of momentum.
@TheSanguineRaven
@TheSanguineRaven 7 месяцев назад
The trail it made looks beautiful
@bonesciencegaming3863
@bonesciencegaming3863 7 месяцев назад
Definitely gonna use this when it comes out
@Solious
@Solious 7 месяцев назад
I clicked this purely for the words "quantum drive" being in the title, reminded me of star citizen and got me excited!
@lees4416
@lees4416 7 месяцев назад
The idea is super cool
@shay5025
@shay5025 7 месяцев назад
Take this to the next level, Kosmo!
@davyzeradaspalmera
@davyzeradaspalmera 7 месяцев назад
Kosmo, Trailmakers semi-veteran forgets about the so famous UFO Glitch
@darealkosmo
@darealkosmo 7 месяцев назад
omg lol
@blockmg9425
@blockmg9425 7 месяцев назад
Now space battle with that propulsion. Is a good idea.
@mihalydozsa2254
@mihalydozsa2254 7 месяцев назад
I wonder what would happen if you also try to engage the rudders not just passively rotating them. (if not that was the solution)
@katrinabush4284
@katrinabush4284 7 месяцев назад
Definitely making a RU-vid video on the update
@gaster000
@gaster000 6 месяцев назад
To make the quantum rudder propeller, you'd have to lower the stability stat of the rudders. It's the stat that makes turning with it actually make you turn.
@Vessekx
@Vessekx 7 месяцев назад
@Kosmonaut, I think you had the right idea with the first (helicopter) version, but you needed to turn the rudders 90 degrees so the glory part acted as the trailing edge.
@Blaster-the-holobot
@Blaster-the-holobot 7 месяцев назад
Hey, i just thought of that: the animation that play when you activate the Quantum rudders is pretty much the same thing as your wheels does. Do you think if you just put 2 Quantum Rudders spinning against eachother, it will have the same effect?
@Spike_uwu_
@Spike_uwu_ 7 месяцев назад
they can be used as additional engines to adjust the position of the spacecraft in space, if they are installed in such a way that they can move in any direction.
@suicidalbanananana
@suicidalbanananana 7 месяцев назад
Food for thought: A paddlewheel isn't fully submerged in the water, only 1 side is. If it would be fully submerged you wouldn't really go anywhere. It's really bizzare that the craft even moves as-is, i think you should try disabling the quantum rudders when they're not near the center of the 'engine' so that only the quantum rudders that push you forward are enabled.
@AaronHochstetler-pu9os
@AaronHochstetler-pu9os 7 месяцев назад
Design option: the Slave II from Star Wars. It landing with the cockpit looking up, but flys with it looking flat
@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning
@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning 5 месяцев назад
Hard not to be curious what would happen if the Quantum Rudders were combined with the No Drag Glitch...
@HealingWatersOfBethesda
@HealingWatersOfBethesda 7 месяцев назад
nice job
@zeo1chris
@zeo1chris 7 месяцев назад
Reminds me of an old school Shuttle craft from Star Trek :)
@benfletcher8100
@benfletcher8100 7 месяцев назад
It’d definitely make a cool little cargo freighter
@Maxwell_Kenway
@Maxwell_Kenway 7 месяцев назад
Devs be like: give them thrusters to move in Space. Kosmo like: hold my „add favorite drink here“ I‘ll use my own propulsion!👨‍🚀
@pneusur
@pneusur 7 месяцев назад
2:16 this looks incredible
@SirNobleIZH
@SirNobleIZH 7 месяцев назад
The beginning of a revolution
@demolition3612
@demolition3612 6 месяцев назад
If you make a logic system that turns off the quantum rudder at certain points in the rotation you can make it so that only the pushing part of the rotation has an active drag inducing quantum rudder, this might improve the speed
@PIGGYboi
@PIGGYboi 7 месяцев назад
If you put 2 quantum rudders next to each other with servos above and below you can use them as propellers, if you search hyperdrive in the workshop you can see builds with it
@guardiantko3220
@guardiantko3220 7 месяцев назад
See, you had the right idea, you need to make a da vinci machine with the rudders
@davyzeradaspalmera
@davyzeradaspalmera 7 месяцев назад
Kosmo, use an actual propeller design since they work just like wings
@imreborbas9029
@imreborbas9029 7 месяцев назад
now to break the sound barrier with these :p
@kjeldsloot
@kjeldsloot 7 месяцев назад
You can make a verticle ship with each end this system. So they are spaced out and works good.
@Caninetag667
@Caninetag667 7 месяцев назад
the quatem drive could be used to rescue chiropos in high ionized areas which would interfere with ossterers and maybe this could just ignore emps possibly
@PheonixBlaze01
@PheonixBlaze01 7 месяцев назад
You have them in vertical, add some in horizontal as well, Try using the new gyro part in place of the helicopter engine.
@theodor5480
@theodor5480 7 месяцев назад
will you upload this to the steam workshop? btw, Great ship!
@theblaz25
@theblaz25 7 месяцев назад
best trail youtuber 💯
@colekam6443
@colekam6443 7 месяцев назад
maybe you can retry this concept but instead of a big long rescue ship you make a more slim but tall or wide design that has them at opposite ends of the back for propulsion since at the end we found out proximity of the rudders affects them.
@Zane12ai
@Zane12ai 7 месяцев назад
*Hippity Hoppity, my frends do not watch you, your Tech is now my Property!*
@ItsSoren87
@ItsSoren87 7 месяцев назад
Kosmo can you make a I6 or a V12 engine with the longest stroke and the smallest bore? 😊😅 Great vid as always ❤❤
@user-ic6ef3sc5s
@user-ic6ef3sc5s 7 месяцев назад
I love it. Would make cool fins for a space whale
@AgentWest
@AgentWest 7 месяцев назад
Between the general shape and the forward staircase being used as landing gear... yeah, this is the "we have the Planet Express ship at home"! lol A bit surprised that the two pedal wheel idea worked, it would not have done so under water IRL. My inclanation would have been with pistons and tilting rudders, just use more pistons in a row and use logic blocks for a more precise sequencing. Maybe use servos instead of hinges since they are faster?
@oko_cha
@oko_cha 7 месяцев назад
this looks like the among-us Dropship. 😂
@thesleepingone
@thesleepingone 7 месяцев назад
Saw the hinge glitch thing. Wonder about sticking the rudders on the end of the rods.
@musdred
@musdred 7 месяцев назад
I believe the propeller idea didn't work because the devs said the quantum rudder only works when its facing backwards.
@shogun4365
@shogun4365 7 месяцев назад
Do a multiplayer Monday battle with this concept
@noelradhakrishnan4423
@noelradhakrishnan4423 7 месяцев назад
Try to add a piston on the servos to make the servos go far apart from the craft, as if a hypersonic mode activates, it would be so Cool, try to add shield generators on the engines too, so when they extend, shields would also extend, it would be amazing!!!
@zombiewolf123
@zombiewolf123 7 месяцев назад
now you need to setup some logic so the paddles that would give you resistance are turned off for 180 deg, then it probably would not matter how close they are. or you could try having the two on the right both spin in the same direction and the two on the left both spin opposite to the right.
@famillelarrivee-brouillett8187
@famillelarrivee-brouillett8187 7 месяцев назад
4:45 you should add a rotating servo with 0 strenght before the quantum propellor
@TheChungassSupreme
@TheChungassSupreme 7 месяцев назад
Could they work if you lined them up, one in front of the other, with every other paddle wheel spinning in the opposite direction? And if that works would it be possible to make a sort of linear engine spanning the entire hull, in order to minimize bulk?
@dumb-ass1445
@dumb-ass1445 7 месяцев назад
So, hear me out, space ornithopter!! Using the quantum rutters as feathers
@Inset_tomato
@Inset_tomato 7 месяцев назад
That’s an interesting question
@mikehorrocks2909
@mikehorrocks2909 7 месяцев назад
At 6:02: RASENGHAN!!!🤪 Also, perhaps if you changed the orientation of the quantum rudders in the direction for the forward thrust you’ll get a better paddle drive.
@JETMAN200
@JETMAN200 7 месяцев назад
Kosmo the QUANTUM Rudders make drag the less rudders the more speed
@Armetron
@Armetron 7 месяцев назад
question, I saw that there was some toggle settings when you selected the rudder, is it possible to enable and disable the rudders? Because if so you can use either timing or angle sensors to turn on and off the rudders so that they may only cause drag when pushing
@JanTonovski
@JanTonovski 7 месяцев назад
For some reason it reminds me of Thunderbird 1 😂
@XadeGrimm
@XadeGrimm 7 месяцев назад
It's called brute force thinking the massive reptation of the same thing eventually produces a result that is desired.
@crusader4648
@crusader4648 7 месяцев назад
Are you gonna post the quantum paddle space ship to the workshop?
@Dudemando1
@Dudemando1 7 месяцев назад
StarTrek Build create quantum pylons like the enterprise shape. That way you can also create spacing.
@Prisoner4245
@Prisoner4245 7 месяцев назад
You should make a series where you just make up your own campaign l
@lvdaXD
@lvdaXD 7 месяцев назад
now do a space battle with only quantum rudders as propulsion
@PixeIWorks
@PixeIWorks 7 месяцев назад
"we all live in a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine." ~ The Beatles
@animehair05silently88
@animehair05silently88 7 месяцев назад
I think irl something like this would be the go to way to just go up, or at least to get things started. I know it takes a lot of sideways speed (something like 17000 miles per hour?) to actually be in orbit, but... maybe you could send an unmanned ship up really really high, then accelerate sideways when you're far enough away that your max speed is a reasonable speed for the periapsis of an orbit with close to the same total energy as the orbit you want, and then you could even adjust the shape of your orbit by using your rudders as rudders, without using rocket fuel?
@animehair05silently88
@animehair05silently88 7 месяцев назад
and then especially since it can afford to be slow, you might be able to just get all your power from solar panels except at the very beginning, and since acceleration is affected by mass but top speed isn't i bet you could bring some very heavy loads up into orbit as long as you have enough acceleration left to more than cancel out the weight.
@xander2853
@xander2853 7 месяцев назад
Ah yes, the eternal quest for a reactionless drive.
@skilledspacepolice6003
@skilledspacepolice6003 6 месяцев назад
since the top speed is around 60 you could use it as very fancy looking breaks
@sirlordofderp
@sirlordofderp 7 месяцев назад
10:06 I made a ufo utilizing this. It's actually weirdly stablizing to
@epox_
@epox_ 7 месяцев назад
It would be cool if we were able to deactivate the rudders. It would be posible to build a space octopus that way
@uhohmemebiggestboy212
@uhohmemebiggestboy212 7 месяцев назад
Knew it wouldn't be long till someone discovered a hyper drive lol
@BingusBogus
@BingusBogus 7 месяцев назад
Now that the update is out, could you upload it to the workshop?
@Lexoniphy
@Lexoniphy 7 месяцев назад
try going faster than the speed of sound in space then go to a planet with atmosphere while going faster than speed of sound.
@HealingWatersOfBethesda
@HealingWatersOfBethesda 7 месяцев назад
the egg pod lol
@redrum_bd1036
@redrum_bd1036 7 месяцев назад
You have hover pads facing the floor of your vehicle, therefore pushing off of your vehicle and lifting you up. It the most basic half of a UFO engine.
@Tawre007
@Tawre007 7 месяцев назад
question is if logic is able to help with that, like switching on/off based on angle.
@seegurke2021
@seegurke2021 7 месяцев назад
Maybee if you try the Same Opposite rotating engine just with gyros Or pure helicopter engines?
@houlej19
@houlej19 7 месяцев назад
You should try using quantum rotors as wings instead of using mass while making a kind of a plane rotor
@minecatx
@minecatx 7 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure the helicopter engines weren't doing anything it was the quantum rudder turn feature I think counteracting itself and going forward
@minecatx
@minecatx 7 месяцев назад
I appear to have been mistaken
@ScottaHemi440
@ScottaHemi440 7 месяцев назад
you've basically made a planet express ship xD atleast function wise.
@final_catalyst
@final_catalyst 23 дня назад
Quantum zipper? Better description for how it moves and zip is fast
@sethcushman5454
@sethcushman5454 7 месяцев назад
I wonder if you could somehow use this for breaking the sound barrier.
@Zeno.609
@Zeno.609 7 месяцев назад
him just drying my eye ballZ
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