Can You Work In Windows Mixed Reality / The Cliff House? 

OMG, you should have turned off SOUND EFFECTS in WMR Settings. Everytime you click it's like a laser beam of sound effect to the brain, especially if one is wearing headphones. I'll just attempt working in Unreal engine in WMR tommorow when my Samsung Odyssey gets here Amazon Prime! Glad to see you're still going, helping make VR happen!

I guess I don't need a lot of money to buy/build a pretty house in a pretty place anymore lol. Good video, cheers!

Love these videos! Just got my Lenovo Explorer yesterday and it’s a little overwhelming to learn everything! Keep the videos coming I love learning new things to do for this headset! Thanks :)

Hey, Sebastian! Thanks for your videos! (even such old as this one) Can you tell what's the angular size of the pixel in those headsets? Do normal PC fonts looks sharp and smooth enough? Or got jagged or blurry?

Thanks for making this video !! Very helpful for me and others I am sure

Hi Sebastian nice job, can I ask you a favor? Can you post some walkthrough on archviz with these glasses? Or some application made with Unreal Engine for it? Or even repost some guide on how to? Regards

can you make a video with the HP reverb and using SQL server, Excel, Power BI?

big fan of your videos keep it up xD

I really like that - ordering my Odyssey today. Is free locomotion possible in the Cliff House?

This is the only video I could find which shows what WMR experience is like - 3 years old video!! Any recent video out there which shows the latest features? Planning to buy Reverb G2.

This would be a great option if your were to RV live for a couple of months out of the year. I'd never use this at home, rather I have four 4k monitors... but you can't easily take that with you when you travel. A great travel option for consultants, I'd think...

You have a very interesting concept of work...lol

thumbs up for the visually impaired comment, that's exactly what I was thinking when I started watching your video. I am visually impaired and this seems like a great option for me, much better than a tradition multi monitor set up.

Great video! Very helpful.

I appreciate your honest comparisons b/w the 4k experience of a monitor vs. Windows MR. I'd like to try the latter even if it's not as sharp but still quite functional as you say. Is there a way to minimize the jerkiness movement when moving your head to view other windows in MR? I want the experience to be a smooth and immersive as possible! :D

This might work with basic work like programming code on multiple virtual screens, or any sort of workload where you need a lot of virtual space but don't have the physical space to put monitors there. A virtual desktop works better though without motion controllers for working, you need to keep the keyboard and mouse, and being able to alt tab is beneficial.

You should test the cortana voice commands. Seems like those would be most useful for working.

Can word processing and excel be used at the same time to do work?

there's a way to show multiple desktops screens? not apps, screens

if you have 2 monitors can it show 2 desktops? im having issues figuring that out. thanks.

excellent video!

Any one know how can i show in the screen TV what i'm playing with the Vr on me?.

so you can work in vr however can you play non vr games like you can with the psvr

Why is everything on an angle? Calibration not done or are you sitting in an angle on the coach?

Can you update this with the G2? Maybe with Big Screen too?

Want see your keyboard? The latest updates has Flashlight function. This enable camera view and you can type keyboard with Flashlight function. :)

My video cable got damaged. Is there any place to get a replacement?

Did you do update video based on the Odyssey headset?

I might want to get this one day.

As a screen size junkie that uses a 50" 4K screen as a monitor, I've wanted something like this for years. It'll be great when you can run any window in VR. I can see it being something where you set up working areas for each task; this cluster of programs is my graphic design/web development area. Over there is my programming area with visual studio. Etc

Had it supported multiple desktop screens instead of just apps, it would perhaps be good for programming and UX/UI design.

edge do not open in vr application what is problem any info please ?

I bought the Samsung odyssey mixed reality headset today and I love it already my last vr headset was psvr. If you find any more tips let us know ;)

Can I use oculus for this?

Can you simply spawn all your windows 10 workspaces as screens in the cliff-house? so you can have several "different desktop monitors" in vr in that sense. On Ubuntu Im used to a 3x3 arrangement of workspaces. Would love that in vr, so I can see all my "screens" at once!

Agree! see physical keyboard in virtual space in real time typing.

hi kannst du mir helfen? Ich komme nicht in das windows mixed reality rein der zeigt an connecting to game aber da kommt nichts?

Is there anyway to see my keyboard ? I am using HP reverb G2

Danke für das Video, genau nach sowas hatte ich gesucht! :) Kannst du vielleicht auch eins mit den vollwertigen Office 365 Programmen machen? Oder gehen nur Programme aus dem Windows Store?

Now that I think of it, wont our economy need to change somehow if vr gets too advanced? Since in the Future where you cant differ between virtual and reallife, what would be the difference in buying a sportscar for millions of dollars, or just loading up a program where you can take that exact sports car anywhere on the world and drive with no speed Limit for 3$? Or living in a Huge mansion which only cost you 5$ which in "reallife" would cost millions? But when im talking about this I mean when we already advanced past the entire screen-infront-of-face-pseudo-vr and have actual "full-dive" vr.

Hello i really really need help with my controllers. The touchpads don't work good , it seems like they aren't big enough so i can't run quite fast in games and also after a few minutes ingame they think i keep presseing on it while i don't ,when i go into mixed reality the controller clearly show i'm touching them while i'm not. Also ingame "BAM" i can use analogue sgtick but when i don't hold it it automatically moves me forward, a deadzone adjustment would solve this but i can't find how. I think thre motion controllers i've got with my HP mr headset are crfap and i'm considering to buy the ones off the dell visor ,but nowwhere does microsoft mention iff those only work on the dell visor or on all headsets ??? PLEASE HELP ME !!! really wqant to start playing without teleportation and microsoft isn't helpfull in any way.Starting to feel i wasted a lot of money to not even be able to game decently

Is it possible to use Speech to text instead of typing?

How hard is it to implement dragging floating windows around like Minority Report, and moreover, with depth?

have you seen those unreal engine 4 demos of photo-realism? i want to see the day we have enough computer power to move that in vr like if you just opened the mine sweeper.. and also have 6 or more virtual monitor inside...

If I launch a game on desktop, is it possible to make the whole surrounding black for lower distraction?

Can we curve the windows?

Is it possible to have multiple different desktops? (The normal one that you used to demo steam)

I think you can just use your phone + IP Webcam to see your keyboard. Check it out, the setup takes like 1 minute after installing the app.

Are there Augmented Reailty right now? Can i make those desktop windows part of my real wall and see my table, hands and keyboard?

Can I play vr chat in desktop mode along with other games while in the cliffhouse?

Gibt es eine Möglichkeit die Fenster zu kippen? Drehen und größe verändern ist ja kein Probleme, Aber gerade wenn die Fenster gross und weit oben sind wäre es super wenn das irgendwie gehen würde

can u have virtual multi monitors? (multiple desktops)

It's probably been asked before, but can you open a normal PC game (e.g GTA V, R6 etc.) inside VR using the Desktop view.

ich hab ein problem und weiss nicht wo ich sonst fragen soll, google hat nichts ausgespuckt. ich hab in meinem vr-heim die kinoleinwand weggeklickt und weiss nicht mehr wie ich sie wiederherstelle :D ist sicher ganz einfach, nur hab ich grad echt keine ahnung wie das geht, ich benutze meine brille grade zum ersten mal :O danke im voraus!

Can you move freely in the cliff house or is there only the way to move with the teleport?

I have some questions

I wish you could change the time of day in Cliff House

Are office productivity tools like excel and PowerPoint available to use in the platform?

Just asking how do i record the cliff house as idk how

Can this be done with the Oculus Quest somehow ? (just got one !)

how did you get the game icons on the roof into the windows mix portal?

So using desktop apps like chrome, vlc player, MS office, notepad etc is seamless experience or need to use the apps in the windows store to have better user experience?

hmmm.. jetzt wo VR headsets günstiger werden wird das vielleicht mein nächster kauf in 1-2 Monaten :) mal sehen welches es dann wird

how you get such a good quality? I bought acer mixed reality but the quality is much worse, I hardly see text in one big screen in front of me. Is it just marketing?

should be able to pull up the desktop at any time in any game....

It is said to be mixed reality. So can you run the front cameras and view your real keyboard while in VR? Another words, can you do real work in this environment?

I like your reviews, very optimistic as always! But hey, pixels per degree when you looking at 1080p resolution on monitor for typical size and distance is like 60. 720p for the same monitor would be 40 horizontal pixels per degree. For VR visual acuity falls off the cliff here: Oculus Rift is like 12 pixels per degree. Samsung Odyssey is a bit better with ~15 pixels per degree. Basically visual acuity for modern VR headsets are closer to those 320x200 games we played on 14" monitors back in 90s. Not even close to full HD, no. Edit: yes, I did calculate these numbers for 1 eye only when it comes to VR, but even if you count both eyes (and that wouldn't be correct) even then it's pretty darn far from even 720p on regular screen. Try it out here for yourself and see the numbers: phrogz.net/tmp/ScreenDens2In.html

update to this?

can you open more than one windows screen?

As a web developer, I really hate to manage code editor, web browser, and web developer tool at the same tiny screen. This could really be a game changer.

search for Logitech vr keyboard...... solutions like that r coming

which headset you are using in this video

I have a conversation about it on reddit, check the title: MIXED REALITY PORTAL VS WINDOWS 10 UI. I have a question dude. I use 2 monitor and a tv and a tablet and two phones, i am a multitasking man. I use visual studio, coding, sometimes video editting, sometimes just web browsing and dont like this much display panels, it makes my eyes tired. I sit on a chair for 10 or 12 hours per day so in the job. And rest is mostly like in front of a panel. I see that mixed reality portal has a lot of screens, windows, multitasking opportunity. I want to buy this mixed reality headset and use mixed reality portal as my main computer, i will use it ten or twelve hour per dey. I will wear it for long time, will i get the desktop experiment? i also will use my keyboard and mouse, i can write when i dont look to the keyboard. Is mixed reality portal deserve to switching from the 2 monitor setup? I can use only one pc with it i see, and i can use it, it does not much metter. How these headsets with eyes, will it make me tired? Is Mixed Reality Portal worth it? What advantages will i have, what will i lose? And also i am not a gamer so, gaming is not that important to me. I mean man explain it to me.

7:48 yep, once we get 8k and an exoskeleton and gloves that have heat changing and material changing inside, we are going to be in the future and probably aren't gonna notice that we are in vr anymore. Maybe Elon musk was right

A good apartment and work would be endless

Man hört von der ersten Sekunde, das du ein Deutscher bist ^^

What do you use to record in vr?

It is possible only if you want to use shit from MS store. You can't use chrome or other stuff, only within a desktop window.

If you loaded up youtube, and resized the screen to be massive, who needs a tv?

I feel like it's just slapping virtual desktop in your face for that matter just buy the windows 10 controllers for virtual reality and use riftcat for virtual desktop and it will almost be the same. I don't hate it that's how I feel what they're doing but yes I do think it's very cool also I was hoping by mixed reality that they would use cameras to give a first person view of the real world overlapping with a camera I hope future mixed reality headsets do that because this is being argued as virtual reality not mixed reality.

i can't wait to watch netflix on a virtual 120" monitor

I can do my school in this

Are you from germany?

the desktop app just has a black screen when i try and use it

Now try and use Skype here and run a video-conference. Your face is covered with this huge non-transparent box on your head. That is why I would prefer transparent glasses which would show virtual objects on top of the real-life environment.

Noice

You could probaly work in MR, but how long, I own gear VR and I can't stand it more than one hours

How is this 'mixed reality'? This looks like 100% VR to me. Maybe layered VR, but still just VR.

look those ads lol

No need for monitors any more

In my experience the answer is no - I don't think the headsets are crisp and clear enough, especially peripheral vision. It's hard to get the position quite right to actually read the screen. Maybe it's good for smaller tasks with less typing, but I would struggle massively to be productive in this environment - I did have fun watching some movies in the little cinema room, sat on a real seat it can feel like you are in a large room.

lol I got the Samsung odyssey just so I can specifically keep track of crypto prices, stocks and my shop

The biggest issue you have not tackled here is the keyboard! And that, to borrow your phraseology, is a HUGE issue! You flashed the on-screen keyboard a few times. But surely you're not implying that we should use on-screen QWERTY for text input!! It's well known that the on-screen keyboard typing is very slow, 5-10 WPM. Your on-the-lap keyboard does not work well for various reasons, many of which are outlined here: www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/uploads/prod/2018/02/2018_ieee_vr_reposition_cam_ready.pdf The problem cannot be side-stepped just because the other parts, i.e., the display of the environment and the information works well. The real problem with VR/AR, is how to interact with them beyond point and click. Again, we go back to the problem of the keyboard and soon we'll acknowledge that the QWERTY keyboard is miserably inadequate for these use cases! The sooner we admit this, the quicker we make progress on this. Your thoughts?

LOL. I think the term you're looking for is vision impaired. Visually impaired just means that the person is ugly :)

Stop saying whatsoever the whole time. Cheers.