Darker supernatural manga there already thriving in the Earyl seventies with Devilman later in the 90 with yu yu hakushou and later bleach . both JJK and trash saw man arent dark ether cringy or tash trhought and trough
4:42 I completely disagree. If anything, having the power system revolve around electricity gives the author so much creativity and ingenuity to create characters with different sets of abilities, all tied back to electricity. Obviously there's basic applications like moving really fast or creating electric blasts and attacks, but you could also use it as a magnetism power (as we see), to stimulate the muscles in your body giving you super-strength, manipulate the electromagnetic waves around you to make you invisible, or even disturb the electromagnetic waves inside human's minds to see their thoughts, or even worse, control them The actual possibilities are limitless, you just gotta be creative with the different uses an electricity power allows you to have
Kinda like how everyones has fire based abilities in fire force but they all use it so differently that they wouldnt even seem fire based if it wasnt explained
Hell DC Comics has a lot of electricity based superhero and supervillains and they used their powers differently than most characters both good and evil. So it isn’t like it’s not impossible just Jump cut it too soon 😅
I love the fact that Red Sprite is a dieselpunk story, because it gives me a chance to use the word dieselpunk. We need a Dieselpunk Edgerunners to make this genre mainstream. And then, Clockpunk Edgerunners, since Clockwork Planet didn't pop off.
BRO I LOVED RED SPRITE Personally, my main gripe with it was having too drastic of a time skip(not the amount of time, just the power boost) where we got an OP main character at the start, where I prefer seeing the character progress with the story. It kinda felt like instant gratification so that we could get kickass fights right away. Aside from that I would've loved to have seen this manga succeed and grow.
@@Dave102693 That's exactly what it felt like when reading it. I read it after it got cancelled, but if I was reading it during serialization I probably would have been concerned about cancellation
@@Dave102693 which is ironic cuz that's probably what got it canceled. In my opinion though, it seems like the author just like to do the airship strat and 'politics' part and wants to make it the main selling point. ...which would probably be more long-running cult classic if published in smaller magazine or webtoon, because: 1) Tatsu is too hot headed to be "the strategist" kind of mc, but we skipped his levelling-up arc to be satisfying "the fighter" type of mc as well. I like him more as a 'concept personified' character than 'character' character, but I like him! 2) Due to him recruiting the whole gang during the first couple chapters, we don't really get their chemistry well. Noble intention aside, it made this is more human resource management power than power of friendship (this approach combined with Tatsu's look kinda makes me think if the author was a fan of advance wars' Andy lol). Also that they're fully functioning and cooperating at chapter 3 kinda dismissed the fact that they were untrained slaves just before this. 3) The ship designs look lame, our main ship aside, they are blocky shapes covered by steel sheets. These factors aside, I like this comic! It got heart!
I hate how aggressive Shonen Jump is with cancelling manga. they should at least let them get to 22-24 chapters. there is so many series that could have been bigger and better with time to flesh out the world and introduce new things. if One Piece ended shortly after meeting Gaimon we wouldn't have the masterpiece of all ages that we do. so many authors never get to prove themselves because they had to end their series before they could.
I fully agree. Honestly if One Piece came out today, and released weekly with the same chapters it might not even make it to Arlong Park unfortunately. Readers/Shueisha prefer the immediate action as opposed to the build up
@@islandboy9381 Nuh uh. No,. We are not doing that. No "modern day attention span" scapegoat BS. By that logic we wouldn't have ANY series that stay popular for long. The much big problem is the cut throatiness of Jump and the lack of breathing time afforded like mentioned above.
while not perfect, I think it's fine that they axe series that don't garner much attention or have high numbers from the jump. sj is the biggest manga magazine with hundreds of aspiring mangaka looking for a shot. it wouldn't make sense for the editors to gamble on a story that has yet to find its focus while also not pulling in any significant numbers. like the thing about your argument is that one piece and naruto and other series that eventually became huge were already hitting their strides after the initial chapter and only hit higher peaks as it went on.
I didn’t even notice that both Tabata and Horikoshi had manga series on Shonen Jump before Black Clover and MHA, and that they both happened to get cancelled. Crazy to think that if that never happened, we wouldn’t have gotten those 2 big hits.
Horikoshi's story is quite interesting, actually. He had 2 series be cancelled by SJ before returning with MHA. For inspiration he used a oneshot he had previously submitted before his second serialization called "My Hero" Seriously depressed due to Omougadoki Zoo being cancelled, he wanted MHA to be a story of hope and happiness, and that's why we have the series we have today ❤️
Would be cool to see a part 2 of cancelled shonen! Really want to see a youtuber cover Hell Warden Higuma, my personal favorite S.J canceled series. Miss it to this day
Red Sprite is actually #2 of my top 10 favorite cancelled WSJ Manga. It hooked me right from chapter 1, but chapter 3 is where I really fell in love with it. It's almost a masterpiece in my opinion and is one of my favorite manga chapters I've ever read. The lore, Tatsu's antics, speech, declaration of war. The mysterious glimpses of the other missing kids and what they're being used for. The set up for how wicked and powerful the Generals are. It's all so good. Oh, and here's the top 10: 10 - MamaYuyu 9 - Doron Dororon 8 - The Hunters Guild: Red Hood 7 - Candy Flurry 6 - Ginka and Gluna 5 - Hell Warden Higuma 4 - Hi-Fi Cluster 3 - Fabricant 100 2 - Red Sprite Eternal 1 - PPPPPP
As someone who read most of these as they came out, my main criticism of these works is the apparent need to rush readers into a major conflict right at the beginning. Perhaps Golem Hearts being the one exception here. It felt like they had no time to develop basic concepts before having to introduce major antagonists and a big villainous organization.
This is a solid first video. I'd love a second part. Perhaps focus on eras of Jump (early 2000s, 90s, etc.)? Or maybe the ones that had serious potential. I def wanna check out Hungry Joker though it seems really cool and it's unfortunate a power system like that will never be fully realized. Also, have you read Sakamoto Days?
I think since he's moving Black Clover to a different magazine, I think there's a chance. Maybe not automatically though, because he's already going through some stuff which was the reason why he had to switch magazines
if i could bring back any canceled series, it would be Ayashimon. it was SO SICK and they axed it, but now are printing physical volumes and it makes me so mad because it feels hypocritical
Man, when it comes to axed Jump titles, seeing Candy Flurry at the end of the vid reminded me how awesome that series is. The Ice Cream User def is my favorite.
They still have Sakamoto days and most of the new ones seem promising. It's just that about 2/3 of their popular series seem to be ending at the same time. Black clover is moving to monthly shounen jump for its last arc, mha is ending, jjk is ending, and the rest of the popular ones are probably not gonna stay for any longer than another 50 chapters. It's basically just Sakamoto days, one piece, and the new Manga on the main magazine.
Hell looking at the list of manga on the main magazine right now. Theirs akane banashi, one piece, Sakamoto days, blue box, and the elusive samurai. The rest are either brand new or on their last arcs.
Jump canceled so many romcoms... I was traumatized over time, whenever something interesting came up and I discovered it was from jump, I already knew it was going to have an accelerated end or canceled ending.
The Hunters Guild: Red Hood was one that I felt bad got canceled. The idea the mangaka had was that the world and creatures were the main focus and clever usage of fairy tales and children stories. So it was suppose to be like a mixture of Monster Hunter and Soul Sacrifice. I looked into the behind the scenes for the manga and sadly the mangka was given a terrible editor who is infamous of having manga they were in charge of getting canceled. He pushed the mangaka to go in a direction he didn't want and chase trends that were popular. So it got canceled because it didn't get enough time to breath and was forced to be what it didn't want.
If you do a part two to this, you definitely need to include stuff like Artist Acro and Barrage (Artist Acro is from Shonen Sunday, but I still think it needs more love online)
I loved Red Sprite,Candy Flurry,Doron Dororon, Black Torch, Tokyo Shinobi Squad, Hell Warden Higuma,7th Garden and Ibitsu no Amalgam(Amalgam of Distortion)! It sucks that all of these got cancelled as the action was raw as hell in all of them imo!😢😠😤
its nice to hear your views. so speak well but i wish you would speak up. its not often i need captions or earphones to hear youtubers clearly. dont cancel your channel!
Lmao thank you for the advice. I’m still new to this so I’m experimenting with audio and how to have my voice sound loud with peaking or clipping. Thanks for watching!
When u were talking about Redsprite having a limited power system I 100% disagree. Power systems gain depth from limitations the fact all of the powers would be based off of electricity mean I can see tons of interesting uses I mean just look at fire force.
I respect that. I found that aside from a few characters a lot Fire Force abilities started seeming a little dull to me, but I definitely could see like EMPs and stuff later that would be really cool in Red Sprite. Thanks for watching!
Omg , my jump you had a number 1 with Red sprite. I feel like the series would fit well with Gangan comics. I loved zombie powder i wish kubo could continue it
Hungry joker was one of few manga that was fanslated in my language back in day that only few series had official translations and I didnt knew english. I was so sad when it ended.
Friendly reminder that before Bleach, there was a manga called Zombie Powder. You can see a lot of early Bleach’s inspirations were borrowed from Zombie Powder, especially in the design of (sword spirit) Zangetsu
I really miss Fabricant 100. It had fantastic art, pretty good pacing, and some dark content. I wish it had gotten just a little more time, but 36 is a crazy amount for a first time creator in jump. I really hope the author makes another series.
Damn all these series sound so cool with great potential! I felt the same about Hunter’s Guild: Red Hood. With just a little structural change it could’ve done wonders
Red sprite and golem hearts were some of my favorites. Was angry when they just suddenly ended. Im glad shaman king went on to other magazines and contines on
The fact that all these series have better concepts than Kagurabachi is crazy. That just shows how having memes about the series can elevate the series in popularity.
There are so many unfinished stories and jump and shoving his short-lived manga that we never hear about that you can make a thousand episodes of the show when I guarantee you I would watch all of them.
If Golem hearts were introduced in the early 2000s i feel like it will get serialized longer, the art style and story architype reminds me of that in the era
One series I did enjoy, even though it got axed, was Mitsukubi Condor. It was a manga about treasure hunters and thieves. It's power system was entirely weapons based, so it was really exciting whenever they went to a dungeon or attempted to steal from someone as it meant the MCs were gonna add something cool or unique to their arsenal. It really gave me early Fairy Tail/ 7DS vibes, so I was really sad to see it end so prematurely.
In the world of 'Golem Hearts,' the golems offer a fascinating array of possibilities. It's as if 'The Flintstones' provided us with valuable resources in the form of these Golems. Imagine the fourth wall breaking moments where characters reflect on their lives, with some begrudgingly accepting their utility while others nonchalantly say, 'It's a living' - these classic lines add depth to the narrative. Personally, I was disappointed when the series was canceled; it had the potential to be Japan's own take on 'Steven Universe,' but with Golems. One of the intriguing aspects of the story is the origin of Noah, who was revealed to be created when his father's wife, Til, tragically lost her life to magic golem missiles that struck their home. Using the magic golem necklace around her neck, she gave birth to a literal half-human, half-golem child. This event, akin to a more complex version of the transformation birth trick seen in 'Steven Universe,' highlights the sacrifices made by Til, as her human body fused with the golem necklace to bring their unborn child into the world. It's a powerful and unique concept. The manga also incorporates elements of Jewish mythology and culture, featuring several Jewish characters. This cultural aspect could have contributed to the manga's cancellation, as it may not have resonated with the Japanese audience. Some characters that were absent in 'Golem Hearts' were later introduced in the author's next series, 'Doron Dororon,' which intriguingly lasted 30 chapters longer. Perhaps this time, the author had more time to develop the story and introduce the characters he was passionate about. If I were in the author's shoes, I might consider switching to a different manga publisher better suited for his style of storytelling, as Jump may not have been the ideal fit. On a different note, regarding your question about 'red sprite,' there are numerous superhero comics showcasing characters with electrical powers, each with their own unique twists on how they wield these abilities. So, it's not impossible to make it work effectively in a story. However, it's important to ensure that the execution is distinctive and engaging. It's all about finding a fresh perspective on familiar themes. 😅
Build king could have been the next toriko, Ayashimon should have been part of the dark 3, and Red hood had nice art and maybe a good concept for it's story.
Hungry Joker was one of my first experiences with getting into a series to have it cancelled, personally i loved the hell out of the concept and the art was top notch at the time. Wish i coulda seen it go a lil farther but it was a good read none the less.
I could have seen myself enjoying all of these, especially Red Sprite and Golem Heart. It's kind of funny looking back at Hungry Joker and where we are now. It would have fit pretty well with current series like Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man. I guess after it got cancelled, Tabata chose a safer route and went for a more classic shonen story instead. Then again, I really love Black Clover, so if that hadn't gotten cancelled, he may not have created that series. Still kind of sucks it never really got a fair shake with the modern audience though.
I don’t think they don’t care about the West, one of the biggest driving forces behind the One Piece Live Action series is to gain popularity with the Western audience. I think they just drop these new series in the ocean and if they don’t immediately start swimming like Michael Phelps they axe them 🪓
Shonen Jump is like being in the NBA or NFL or another highly completive sports league. In order for it to make money it needs to be filled with the best players who will draw the attention of people to watch. And since no one wants to watch mediocre or even average players, you either preform well as soon as you sign the contract or you get cut. Leagues are filled with stories of people who maybe were great in the minor or college leagues but couldn't cut it when they stepped into the professional realm. Could they have become something if they were given time? Maybe. But a major professional league doesn't want to take a chance on maybe. Not when they are paying millions of dollars per player and have a reputation to maintain. This is a business after all. In order to be the best the standards need to be incredibly high. Unfortunately that means most people wont be able to cut it.
I belive i have all of the english shonen jump mags im not shure if its all of them but man i miss looking forward to the next one rading shamin king desert punk ect
They should but unfortunately they’d rather hoard all potential a series could have in another magazine even though they let it die. And honesty idk how high the odds of a series being published elsewhere if you got cancelled in Jump
The manga i'm upset about is Our Blood Oath. I know that manga had issues but i can't help but see the potential within it. Kakazu-senei brought something original and fresh to the Vampire table with his brotherly duo and they had so much room for growth both of them....I hope Kakazu-sensei tries again and not let this setback get to him...Later
I definitely know what you mean lol. You see so much potential in it that can never be realized. I haven’t heard of this series tho, I’ll have to check it out
@daskerei I had high hopes for this one as the next big Vampire story, but readers didn't feel the same. The author published one-shot after his cancelation then disappeared. I hope he doesn't get discouraged.. Be sure to let me know what you think of it
This vid come out in my recommendation today and it is solid info. What i know about shonen jump, most mangaka will need to appease Jump head editor first who is very strict to the T. The standard always based on dragon balls and etc cause their mindset often about what boys will interest to read. That's why it's hard to insert some psychology stuff but new power, transformation are much easier to get green light. They also reject if the theme are too similar to other current manga . For me, Phantom Seer and Candy Flurry are so much wasted potential by Jump .
I feel if these series weren’t a part of WSJ they probably would’ve been successful which disappoints me. Because they all sounded like series with some good potential, but at the same time they could’ve still suffered the same fate if they weren’t pulling in the numbers they’ve wanted. And currently there is a bit of a panic for WSJ because what’ll happen to them when JJK and One Piece end since currently they are their most popular series right now. Why do you think kagruabatchi got so heavily memed on akin to morbius because it’s such a generic sounding story that executives would hope will become a new hit. I haven’t read the series yet and don’t plan too. But I can tell you this with the way things are going currently with WSJ that when JJK and ESPECIALLY One Piece end the magazine is gonna plummet in popularity and sales because there’s nothing of note right now or into the foreseeable future.
