J'ai regardé votre reportage avec une humilité immense. J'ai pris conscience de mon incompétence et surtout de la désinvolture de ceux qui savent tout. Votre reportage est un trésor, mille fois merci.
A fantastic glimpse of past skills, modern man thinks he knows everything, but he could not even begin to do what these people are doing as an everyday job, the sad thing is we are constantly told by ignorant media that all the superb guns that relied on these skills should be destroyed, whereas they should be considered along with the highest forms of art. Chris B.
Eu concordo plenamente com você, fantástico feito primitivo de armas, hoje temos tudo em tecnologia e achamos saber algo, maldito presidente aqui do Brasil hoje em 2003 distraiu muitas armas, distraindo a história de cada uma, maldito fala de democracia mas esquerdista só apoia bandido da raça dele...
Your an ignorant child if you think man hasn't progressed little middle class boy, plenty of working class people do back breaking work in the western world,wait a few years till you have a considered option before posting again boy and till then be quiet 🤫 all the best from sunny Scotland
Being a welder for 50 years I can't get over they are doing all their work with white hot steel/iron without gloves! Not to mention no glasses for their eyes. I have always liked Damascus and those shown are really nice. Thanks to the poster of this.
RU-vid est un océan de bêtises. Et parfois des trésors comme ce témoignage de l'intelligence intellectuelle et manuelle, apparaît. Merci pour ce précieux partage.
Damasquinage en plein et quel savoir-faire! MAGNIFIQUE document ! Merci pour nous avoir fait partager ce film... il donne plein d'idées car je pense qu'après des décennies d'oublis .... il y a un intérêt pour un savoir-faire oublié et qui peut se redécouvrir par la recherche de documents et des essais personnels; ce n'est pas "réinventez la roue" mais bien la redécouverte de véritables trésors!
superbe image d'époque et du savoir faire que plus personne ne voudrait reproduire tellement c'est long et quelle beau travail final !!! juste un dernier mot !! tout simplement MAGNIFIQUE !!
No wasted blows, no wasted motion. Masters of the craft. You could take a Japanese master bladesmith, a Malaysian Empu or one of the Merovingian masters of pattern-welding and in spite of no common language they would be completely at home in that shop with these men in 5 minutes.
a perfect observation. Blacksmithing is a world of its own and has its own language that uses more than just words to be spoken. To understand blacksmithing, you must become one. Only then can we be understood.
Merci pour cette Vidéo .! J' ai eu le frère de mon arrière Grand Père , Forgeron classé " Hors concours " du meilleur ouvrier de France , tous métiers confondus , en ces années là .. Les Grilles du jardin de Mouveaux ( Ville de l' agglomération Lilloise 59 ) , sont l' une de ses Œuvres en Fer Forgé .. Elles étaient encore présentes , dans ma jeunesse , peut être le sont elles toujours .. Pour ma part , je sais juste braser et souder au poste oxydo' acétylène & au poste électrique .. Des Géants qui passent en noir & blanc .. nous sommes bien petits , face à cette " Trempe " ( à l' eau ou l' huile ;) ) d' Hommes là ..
You can see the pride in these men's faces, some of them would have been born in the first half of the 19th century, seeing that they would be immortalized through the new magic of film.
This is simply amazing and a gem of a documentary! The craftsmanship and work put into these barrels! The detailed patterns that were visible in the film! How I wish to revive this art
The amount of labor required to fabricate those barrels was truly astounding. At the time that Parker considered making them in the U.S., Belgian metal smiths were paid approx. 11 cents/hr. vs 35 cents/hr in the U.S. so they abandoned the effort despite the protective tariffs.
I shoot with a Charles Boswell side lock ejector with Damascus barrels reproofed nitro. A shear joy to use and a beautiful piece of fine craftsmanship. It’s amazing how many people are not aware of this type of barrel manufacture and history.
@@didierhenry1 Il est rare de voire des vidéo pédagogique de notre passé. Celle ci est vraiment top On mesure l'ambiance, le savoir faire et la dureté de cette vie 👍
This is a superb historical document! Coming from a long line of blacksmiths (I'm also a craftsman), as well as being a clay shooter for 25 years, I truly appreciate this. I live near Birmingham, England, which was once the world centre for sporting gun production. Obviously, the skills used were quite common 100 years ago, but so very very rare now.
I was thinking the same thing about it being so historical. In some spots it's so dark it was almost lost forever it seems. That would have been a shame.
C'est tout bonnement magnifique ! Je suppose que les fusils de cette qualité étaient destinés à une clientèle fortunée. Une arme de l'époque avec un canon damassé ça doit couter cher aujourd'hui. Je suis intéressé par les armes depuis toujours j'ai été visiter des collections avec des armes incroyables, de la précision, des gravures, ce sont des artistes...
Thank you for sharing this footage of a time long gone. I could almost smell the burning coke and hear the hammering on the anvil. I doubt there is a single man in the world today capable of making something like what these craftsmen made back then.
+chapiit08 haha, there are people out there who can still forge just as well, if not better. Check out these swords; they are traditionally handmade blades using pattern welding techniques with amazingly beautiful steel and hilts. Extremely complex, gorgeous, and dangerous swords. templ.net/english/weapons-antiquity_and_early_middle_age.php#152-sword
Ryan Hobbs You are right Ryan. I'm aware of some bladesmiths forging damascus steel, and also the craftsmen who occassionally forge a barrel or two, I didn't express myself properly. And thanks for the info.
And they write theyr Names in the Damast? For get it, JUST FORGET IT, or show it to me. This Quality of Craftsman is dead. Probably for ever! I hope that i am wrong.
You are watching some serious labor...Least of which May be the filming But, You can rest assured this photographers arm was worn out from cranking that camera. Edit... Ok, I have seen some beautiful and complicated Damascus pieces but, I mean.. Le Z'enobe Gramme in a ribbon, within a ribbon, wrapped into a barrel is just, well.. Damn Impressive.
trop cool 🤩tu ma mis des étoiles dans les yeux un savoir faire perdu 😞en plus il y avait un coté déco que les armes modérne on plus ,ou alors ca cote un bras,merci pour ce doc exceptoinnel un vrais plaisir pour les collectionneurs❤ tu a un nouveau abonné😁A+
@@retroviseur5301 Ca fait plaisir de fair plaisir, je possède encor 3 de ces cannos Damas, ils sont en piteux état, et je ne sais pas comment je pourais les conserver et arrêter leur oxidation....
@@didierhenry1 tout depend de leurs états apres il faut les traité a l'antirouille il y a plein de marque en vente sur le net ou une petite hidrólise,puis un pti traitement mais bon si il son mort, c'est mort!! domage😡"déco"
Si por favor pudiera alguien poner subtítulos en español; a mis casi setenta años, me quedado impresionado con semejante documental. Muchas gracias al responsable. Mis saludos.
Buenas tardes buscaré a ver si es posible tener subtítulo en español, no prometo nada, estoy intentando encontrarlo. Que tengas un buen día y espero poder ayudarte.
I have an A Nestor of Limerick side by side Damascus ribbon twist hammer shotgun , 30 inch barrels , 12g and I have never seen how they were forged . I appreciated what I have and because it’s pre 1880s I only shoot black powder and lead solid brass cartridges through it . It’s very dark in that forge too . Lost art or extinct process . I enjoyed watching that , thank you .
You are welcome, i have onlawys wondered why i was atracted to steel, withpout being a magnet, it must be somwhere in my genes, only some people could be able at this day to perform like they did, incredible workers. It's my proud and pleasure to share this movie .
I saw an primitive American way to make gun barrels, different. They pledge an pletine al long, and solder it itself by beat it white color hot Seems in a city Whilliamsburg on US( I cant remember exactly) Both procedures very interestings!
Wrote about doing a similar process in a fictional context. Some thoughts: 1) the reason twisting, etc is done is that the original material was *carburized Wrought Iron,* which usually has a lot of slag and other impurities. The twisting, piling, etc. helps get them out of the metal. 2) this also achieves better homogeneity, *if it is done with sufficient care.*
Very Nice, i make Damascus and found This video very informative to see how to make a spiral welded barrel, one of my future projects. Forging a name in the pattern (how to do it) remains a secret i guess. Awesome skills these people had. Thanks
my guess is that the name was an "end on" method, similar to the mosaic patterns. Make the billet and then cut it into lengths and weld side by side . Same way one makes inlay banding for furniture. Damascusknowledge.com has some information about "end on' patterns
Passionnant et étrange de voir des morts revivrent et nous en apprendre ! La musique d'accompagnement est bien trop pompeuse et ne colle pas au sujet ; ce qui ajoute un côté déconnecté et froid ! Tout, absolument tout sent la poussière et la cave humide .J'adore !
Bizjzonder interessante video over een helaas bijna uitgestorven ambacht. Veel respect heb ik voor de vaardigheden van deze mensen, maar wat een armoede zie je in de beelden.
Het klopt armoede was er zeker, en toch hebben ze duizenden, als het niet meer is, lopen gesmede daar in Nessonvaux. Ze wiste toen ook niet beter denk ik.
Bonjour à tous et merci pour ce beau reportage... Sans être désobligeant, pourquoi sous-titrer en langue anglaise alors que, s'agissant de notre patrimoine wallon, peu de mots sont utilisés en français ? Cordialement.
Bien le bonjour, trés bonne question á laquelle je ne saurait répondre, je crois que comme L'anglais est une langue que presque tout le monde parle. Et donc comme ça il y aura plus de personnes qui comprendront et qui captureront le message ... bien à vous.
I really enjoyed this. My great grandfather passed down a barrel with "Canon damas turc de paris" written in gold inlay that he found in a creek bed in West TX. I still live on his homestead, and wonder how this made it all the way out here.
Wauw with gold inlay, even more difficult to make i think. I have got 3 barrels from these guys, great grandfather, the barrels are flocking off and I have no idea how I could stop this occidation proces, before they cramble down completely , have you any idea how i could protect them ?
@@didierhenry1 Depending on the level of deterioration would determine how I would try to preserve them. I used gun oil for years, applied just the same as I would on one of my firearms to prevent rust. Recently I applied CLP which contains silicone, looks to be working. Looks like we both inherited from our great grandfathers which is unique.
Au delà de la vidéo, l'on a du mal à s'imaginer, les efforts et la dextérité qu'il faut pour forger un canon damas à la main. 18:06 il me semble reconnaître l'outil avec lequel le maître forgeron gratte les scories, c'est une baïonnette mauser 98 de 14-18. 19:40 en arrière plan, d'immenses meules pour l'affûtage Jean Delcour-Dupont (18..-1931), Maître canonnier, à Fraipont-Nessonvaux (commune Belge), puis à Liège.
@@didierhenry1 Désolé, je ne peux répondre, car je demeure sur Paris, espérons que cela ne soit pas comme chez nous, car l'on fout tout en l'air de nos jours, même notre patrimoine historique, c'est ainsi, malheureusement... Cependant, afin d'avoir un visu du lieu, essayez de faire une recherche sur google earth ou google map, en utilisant la fonction 'street view', via l'icone mobile, en forme de petit bonhomme jaune, qui permet de se déplacer dans les rues de nos villes.
Neat, fun to see how much labor went into it and how inefficient the process was, it truely had to be a labor of love to male them like this instead of more efficient means.
Inefficient! I never saw a wasted hammer strike , it shows just how ignorant "modern man" is when he sees this ultra efficient process as inefficient, no power tools were used in this manufacture, and the result was a very strong gun barrel that surpassed the bored tube available at the time.
It’s crazy to think that most of these old smithing techniques cannot be used on modern steel because it’s *too pure* and doesn’t have the natural “contaminants” like silicon and phosphorus that make this type of ironwork possible - and even give it a degree of corrosion resistance.
As a practicing blacksmith, I feel compelled to mention that this is not at all true. Every technique used in this video is applicable to modern steel as well as they rely on properties inherent to iron and steel as a whole. Pattern welding/damascus is in fact still done exactly this way, by stacking different grades of steel and forge welding them together. Modern steel also isn't "too pure", it is simply much more consistent. Manufacturers can closely control which impurities are present in steel and how much of it, and many are readily added to some grades if steel to improve its qualities like toughness, corrosion resistance, and hardenability. The main change from the time of this film to now is that the production and use of wrought iron has generally stopped, as it was replaced by much more cost effective Mild Steel. Wrought iron had some unique qualities including extraordinary corrosion resistance compared to mass produced steel, but this was largely a result of how it was made (which involved a laborious and very expensive process compared to steel). At any rate, all the metal used for these gun barrels was likely already sonewhat modern steel by that time, as wrought iron is a much worse material for this application.
