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CANON C70 VS CANON C200 | Dynamic Range, Low Light, Slow Motion Footage 

Griffin Conway
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In this video I compare the Canon C70 vs the Canon C200.
I cover the following:
-Dynamic Range
-Low Light (High ISO)
-Slow Motion
-File Size and Playback
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Комментарии : 317   
@mondobytes
@mondobytes 3 года назад
The fact that the C70 can recover so much information and it’s not recording in RAW really shows the performance of this camera. The “it sucks the C70 can’t shoot in RAW” goes out the window. The 10bit on the C70 is phenomenal and the fact that it’s much easier to edit makes it a solid option.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Exactly. I went in to this assuming the c200 raw would do better in the extreme situations, but the c70 is a freaking beast. Let’s hang soon bro! Thanks for checking out the video.
@darwinmacon
@darwinmacon 3 года назад
My thoughts exactly!
@christophermcguinness
@christophermcguinness 3 года назад
Agreed about RAW.... Honestly, I rarely shoot RAW even on commercials. My biggest complaint is SDI. If Canon does bring a C90, I sincerely hope it gets SDI. C70 DR is exceptional in the darks.
@vladimirmiladinovic3104
@vladimirmiladinovic3104 3 года назад
Why no one mentions compression, that the C70 shoots in Long GOP except at 25fps
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
@@vladimirmiladinovic3104 7:42 👍
@LearnLightAndSoundSessions
@LearnLightAndSoundSessions 3 года назад
Griffin - your camera comparisons are reviews are some of my favorites - really practical, useful info.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thank you Curtis! The feelings are mutual for all the audio and lighting reviews that I watch yours are my favorite
@EpicLightMedia
@EpicLightMedia 3 года назад
Thanks for this video!!! The C70 is a great step for canon and I think it’s going to be a very popular camera.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
I agree! Thanks a lot. I’m a fan of your channel by the way. Great stuff on there!
@LeeZavitz
@LeeZavitz 3 года назад
Thanks for the tests. As a C200 owner I still love the colour on the C200. I dont know what it is but it has a vibe. But that sensor needs light. ETTR
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
I agree I kind of like the green shadows. I actually tint my c70 green to make it look more like the c200.
@holdmedear
@holdmedear 3 года назад
@@GriffinConway do you only push green into the shadows? or how do you grade it to match the c200?
@CrisBaggins
@CrisBaggins 3 года назад
Actually... nope. ETTR does not help to get better images
@aptech9896
@aptech9896 3 года назад
@@GriffinConway would also like to know how exactly do you tint it green. Thank you!
@shueibdahir
@shueibdahir 5 месяцев назад
@@CrisBagginsi use ETTL most times and it does give me better images, but it actually need to have a lot of light to do it. So at: ISI 100 f2.8 1/48 The image needs to be exposed properly until the shadows are clean, I then underexpose my image until it my shadows are just about to reach the noise floor. In post i raise the shadows by +30 and the result always impressed me. Modern sensors are MUCH better at recovering shadows than highlights. I only do this when the scene is lit in a way that I need to either prioritise shadows or highlights. This way I can get both into the image
@thefilmpoets
@thefilmpoets 3 года назад
I'm pumped for the r5 comparison!
@CollingFilms
@CollingFilms 3 года назад
great comparison Griffin! solid work as always
@patresinger
@patresinger 3 года назад
Hey Griffin, love your videos, so wonderful to follow your thoughts and honest views on the gear! Thanks for doing such informative content.
@Batubacaksizzz
@Batubacaksizzz 2 года назад
quick, to-the-point and quality comparison. thanks for the content. subscribed!
@MeridianMedia
@MeridianMedia 3 года назад
Excellent tests and objectivity. Thank you!
@vinyleyezz
@vinyleyezz 3 года назад
Excellent info dude! Great video! The C70 is definitely going to be my next camera!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
C70 is such a great camera!
@PDU_Tutorials
@PDU_Tutorials 2 года назад
At 2:46 you said all the settings were exactly the same. Did you shoot in XFAVC and which Log Profile did you use?
@VirtuousVow
@VirtuousVow 3 года назад
The one video we’ve been waiting for... Let me get the popcorn 😎🍿
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Haha thanks for watching!!
@TazawaTanks
@TazawaTanks 3 года назад
Nice video. I’m looking forward to the R5/1DX/C70 comparison.
@paulbeckmann
@paulbeckmann 3 года назад
Great test! Thanks for the great job!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks Paul!
@Sutterjack
@Sutterjack 3 года назад
Great video - thanks for the exhaustive side by side examples. I really wonder if Canon is going to come out with the C200 Mark 2 or if it was just a bunch of hype. Two things that really bug me on the C70 - no EVF and bad hinge on the display. Still waiting on my choice to upgrade to 4k from my old C100 Mark 2.
@mitchmedmedia5386
@mitchmedmedia5386 2 года назад
Oooh Griffin got some hands 👊 Great info as always
@maxihome7243
@maxihome7243 3 года назад
Canon C200 with its RAW video directly to the card is the most ideal camera for movies!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
C200 raw is great if you can handle the workflow!
@EugeneMaynard
@EugeneMaynard 3 года назад
Subscribed! You and Carlos together have given me a wealth of valuable info in making my decision to finally buy the C70. I am almost there!😁🙏🏾
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks a lot! Glad you find value here!
@RobertRedfield2
@RobertRedfield2 3 года назад
Solid review and comparison. Your conclusions are much appreciated.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Glad you liked it! Thanks Robert!
@ronin7entertainment884
@ronin7entertainment884 3 года назад
Great video as usual brother. We have a 200 and we’re thinking about the 70 right now. This video was really helpful. We appreciate you.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Awesome! Glad I could help! Hit me up with any questions
@papermelon
@papermelon 9 месяцев назад
Hey man! Amazing comparison, helped a ton. If you wouldn’t mind weighing in for me, how do you feel like these two now compare for their current market value? I’m seeing the C200 around used for ~$2,500 with the C70 around $6,500. I’ve just starting looking so I don’t know what the c70 originally ran for, but that’s a massive price difference. My biggest concern about the C200 is primarily longevity when purchasing in 2023. How do you personally weigh their worth and which do you recommend I make the massive upgrade to?
@MichaelJohnsonProductions
@MichaelJohnsonProductions 3 года назад
Great video just purchased the C70 and been using it for a lot of professional work. Love it
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
That’s awesome Michael! Hit me up with any questions you have!
@glenngulia5409
@glenngulia5409 3 года назад
Great video. Very helpful. Thanks.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks so much Glenn!
@itsRonDavis
@itsRonDavis 3 года назад
more excellent content. thank you, Griffin!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks a lot Ron! Glad you enjoy it!
@Metamorpheu
@Metamorpheu 3 года назад
Great job Griffin :)
@nuclear64_
@nuclear64_ 3 года назад
Hello great video. Did you use the same lens for each camera? Or did the C70 have an RF and the C200 have an EF? It seems as if you used RF for one and EF for the other. Thanks Cheers from LA! Frank
@GDoggProductions
@GDoggProductions 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this detailed video 😁
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@Trendsetic
@Trendsetic Год назад
Great comparison review.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway Год назад
Thanks!Glad you enjoyed it
@landwaterandthewild
@landwaterandthewild 2 года назад
Great video mate. Can you tell me if you were using the speed booster on the c70 for the low light or RF lenses?
@DanielTihonov
@DanielTihonov 3 месяца назад
Great review! Thank you! :) Considerin to buy the C70 in 2024 haha. What lens did you use at the high iso test at night?
@WiseMindFilms
@WiseMindFilms 3 года назад
Damn your channel just randomly popped up. Great breakdown really enjoyed learning the difference of these 2 cameras
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked jt
@seken2nun
@seken2nun 3 года назад
Good stuff bro 👍🏾👍🏾
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks Teddy!
@Mike0193Azul
@Mike0193Azul 3 года назад
Awesome comparison! Looking forward to more C70 videos
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thank you!
@delaniegiandomenico8930
@delaniegiandomenico8930 3 года назад
Great video babe!!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks Babe! We need you to be the test subject for the next one ❤️
@TylerEdwards
@TylerEdwards 3 года назад
11:40 so much truth dude!! Great video as always brother!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
You know it bro! Thanks Tyler!
@threethroneproductions5498
@threethroneproductions5498 3 года назад
Hi nice video. Which Sd card do you use for the C70?
@RobRanney
@RobRanney 3 года назад
Just came across your channel today. Wonderful videos. I'm a C200 owner and looking at the C70 (hoping the C90 may have an SDI among other tiny wishes). Great review, subscribed!
@jasonnowwhat5041
@jasonnowwhat5041 3 года назад
Hey Griffin, can you let us know what conversion or technical LUT you use for clog2? I’m curious what people are using for C70 and the like. And are you using similar Luts for something like the R5? Thanks.
@pablomarin1746
@pablomarin1746 3 года назад
I love your videos and this channel very great info for us.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks for being here Pablo! I appreciate you watching!
@JosephPaul4real
@JosephPaul4real 2 года назад
Super helpful video. I'm trying to decide whether to buy a C70, a Sony CX6, or a RED Komodo.
@gonzalezmediaproductions4340
@gonzalezmediaproductions4340 3 года назад
Thank you for comparing them! I want both!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
You are welcome they are both great options!
@sittingnow
@sittingnow 2 года назад
did you shoot both in Neutral gamma?
@AndGuz16
@AndGuz16 3 года назад
Awesome sauce. Thank you!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks Andres!
@petermydliar4583
@petermydliar4583 3 года назад
Hi, may I ask you if you made ABB on booth cameras before shooting?
@lb7144
@lb7144 Год назад
Awesome video, thank you so very much! Did you every shoot externally with the C200 in to an Atomos or other similar external monitor? I have used my C100 MKII with an external Shogun Inferno recording ProRes (fake 4.2.2.) 8 bit. I’m thinking about getting a C70 but I’m still interested in the C200. I’m not top notch like you and some of the others commenting. I’m just a lil old ,novice, grandpa who has found some really nice cheap cinema cameras. I’m going to stick them in the faces of my family for all of our events and Sunday School review video content. Thanks again - I also use a Ninja Blade
@martinmeyerbiz
@martinmeyerbiz 3 года назад
Sir, you got me subscribed! Thanks a lot for this down to earth in-depth review. Greetings from Switzerland from a C300 MkI owner who just switched from the 5D MkII =) Man, started to love the Canon C series!
@VancouverRealEstateFilms
@VancouverRealEstateFilms 3 года назад
Hey, are you able to get Browser Remote on the C70 or does it require an additional wifi transmitter of some sort?? Somehow my Network settings are grayed out on the C70
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
I believe you need an additional piece of hardware to get that to work, but I am not 100% sure
@KingYutty
@KingYutty 3 года назад
I love you videos man. Always crushing it💯.. Now I'm waiting for C70 vs 1DX mark iii. Please.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
That one is coming up for sure! Appreciate the kind words 🙌
@holdmedear
@holdmedear 3 года назад
Yes please!
@myvideoguy
@myvideoguy 3 года назад
You can tell by the likes how helpful this video was over a lot of other C70 videos. Cheers mate, real world feel to this. Much more worthwhile than a full time RU-vidr / Reviewer opinion.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks a lot! Really appreciate the kind words 🙌
@joelflora2252
@joelflora2252 3 года назад
Can you playback 60p and 120p footage on the camera in 24fps (i.e. see it in slow motion within camera)
@MrMacroJesseSky
@MrMacroJesseSky 2 года назад
In case I missed this, Is the c70 using noise reduction as opposed to the c200?
@devoice
@devoice 3 года назад
What codec were you shooting the c200 on ? Raw 12 bit ? Or 8 bit 420.
@JoshSmith-ct3fi
@JoshSmith-ct3fi Год назад
What codec do u mainly use in your studios on c200 ? What codecs on c200 do u mainly use for clients ?
@AndrewMurphyFilms
@AndrewMurphyFilms 3 года назад
Dude this is a wicked comparison. Great comparisons and basically the same as my thoughts. C200 is amazing, but the RAW was a killer with no compression ratios.
@exposure3805
@exposure3805 3 года назад
really looking forward to the C70 speed booster review
@KandaProductions
@KandaProductions 3 года назад
What SD cards are you running on the C70? I had issues with my Angelbird 128gb V90 card.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
I use Sandisk 128gb uhs ii. They say not compatible when you start it up but they work perfectly fine
@DanRichardsonTV
@DanRichardsonTV 3 года назад
Hi Griffin, great video. When comparing noise side by side, do you compare the raw (without noise reduction applied) with the C70 that has noise reduction applied?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Yes that is correct. No noise reduction applied. Some people would say this is the wrong way to compare the cameras and the raw is meant to have noise reduction....however, it absolutely destroys my computer at export times, so I just show it as is and mention that I didnt apply noise reduction
@alvinburrell
@alvinburrell 3 года назад
Great information.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks Alvin!
@eriksmith2271
@eriksmith2271 3 года назад
Thanks for the vid! Do you know what "color matrix" you were in on the C200? I'm trying to dial in my C70 and C200 for 2 cam interviews but am disappointed with how different they are. Thanks!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
I always use neutral color matrix
@metreweli
@metreweli 3 года назад
Good job, thanks. Waiting for speed booster review.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
I just finished it. Uploading on Monday 👍
@scottievee7467
@scottievee7467 3 года назад
Thanks. I needed to hear that. Got a C70 coming.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
I’m sure you will love it! It’s a great camera
@chrisshent
@chrisshent 3 года назад
Love your insights, they're refreshing thoughts you don't get to hear on other channels. Thank you!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks so much Christopher! Really appreciate the kind words 🙌
@AjushiPhotography
@AjushiPhotography 3 года назад
Great Job 👍🏻
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thank you!
@brendonleerogers1794
@brendonleerogers1794 3 года назад
Great in depth review! Keep seeing c 70 videos and it’s making me lean more to it over the fx6 but still having a hard time deciding 🥴
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
You can’t go wrong with either...but for me, I’m team canon all the way lol
@keylightfilmsYT
@keylightfilmsYT 3 года назад
Great comparison. Was the C200 footage only shot in raw for this comparison due to 8-bit limitation (aside from 120p tests)? I'm very curious as to the EF lens performance on the 0.71x adapter.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Everything from the c200 was in raw except for 120p which was 8 bit because that’s all that’s available. I will for sure be testing the speed booster soon
@AlanChunkyMunky
@AlanChunkyMunky Год назад
Thanks for the video! Looking to get my first cinema camera and with the recent price cut on the c200, I need more in-depth insight as compared to the c70 (which is the one I’m leaning towards currently). Part of me is wondering if I should wait and see if they update the c200 this year but not sure. Also, yo yo cool to see creators coming out of OC!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway Год назад
I think I might re do this test for 2023. Any specific questions you have or things you would be looking for?
@be_bigger_today
@be_bigger_today 3 года назад
You rock Griffin!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks so much!
@OpenDGuitar
@OpenDGuitar 3 года назад
Planning for this camera, but likely just going to use Ed adapter and not the crazy expensive RF lens. We have lots of EF glass.
@itsjantore
@itsjantore 3 года назад
Great comparison. The file size of RAW is also the main reason I'm swapping my C200 for FX6. I've loved the camera, but with better alternatives, theres no reason to stick around anymore.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
There’s a lot of great options out there!
@lionroots11
@lionroots11 2 года назад
Hey buddy hope all is irie. What Is the best lens to do talking head interview? Or interview in general people seating talking to the camera so forth?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 2 года назад
I would say the 35mm / 85mm combo for A cam/B cam is my most used combo. If I was going single camera I would use a 50mm.
@lionroots11
@lionroots11 2 года назад
@@GriffinConway Great advice thank you
@PeterDiBussolo
@PeterDiBussolo 3 года назад
Awesome comparison. Did you do a ABB on the c200 before those tests or no?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
No because I didn’t chance white balance significant temperatures
@SteelWorksFilms
@SteelWorksFilms 3 года назад
@@GriffinConway From what I have experienced ABB for the ISO you are in on the c200 goes along way on the amount of noise especially at higher ISO. From your experience have you noticed that makes a difference?
@CalebWojcik
@CalebWojcik 3 года назад
5:01 - I definitely see the same things in my tests. Even when recording in 8-bit on the C200. The shadows in the Canon Raw Light files are always really noisy because there is no noise reduction done in camera and I don't want to have to do that in post on export.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Exactly. A few people complained I didn’t do noise reduction in my test. However, I find that it takes forever and really slows down my workflow, so I tend to just shoot lower ISO’s and light the scene for proper exposure with the c200
@FrontmanMedia
@FrontmanMedia 3 года назад
2:43 I'm glad to hear someone else mention the greener look on the C200. I've also been shooting with the C200 for a couple years, and when comparing to my C100 Mk2, I definitely noticed the C200 leans a little greener. I always thought it was interesting that Canon did this with the C200. It's not a bad thing necessarily, as I really like the look of the C200, but it's definitely interesting Canon did that.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Totally agree, I actually kind of like it
@MattAitia
@MattAitia 3 года назад
Thanks for the comparison Griffin! C200 owner and stoked on it. Happy holidays and happy new year!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
C200 is still an amazing camera. Thanks, and happy holidays to you as well!
@shzammpatapon9865
@shzammpatapon9865 3 года назад
what kind of settings do you upload to youtube tho, that banding is horrible.
@frasermacmannis614
@frasermacmannis614 3 года назад
Solid review! Looks like it should pair well with the c500
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Heck ya! Thanks for checking the video out Fraser!
@PhilipHo986a
@PhilipHo986a 3 года назад
Hey Griffen can you comment on the sharpness of the c70's image? I noticed - especially from the high iso comparison - that the c70 was noticeably sharper than the c200. Perhaps there was some sort of in-camera sharpening? Or maybe the sensor's really that good at capturing detail. Great comparison btw!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
The c70 appears sharper to me than c200. That said, I never test sharpness because I don’t think a “sharp” image makes for a good image. In fact, I usually use softening filters. It gives it a more organic look.
@goandmakefilms
@goandmakefilms 3 года назад
Thanks for the comparison! I guess I will be holding onto my c200 for awhile. By the way, which audio monitors do you use?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
C200 is still a great camera! I use the Yamaha hs6’s (I think that’s the name could be off though)
@goandmakefilms
@goandmakefilms 3 года назад
@@GriffinConway thanks!
@ben_grubb
@ben_grubb 3 года назад
Great video, thanks! I’ve been going back and forth on whether to sell my recently bought C200 and get a C70. This was a really useful side-by-side but I’m still not 100% sure what to do.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks Ben, glad you enjoyed it. The best option is if you can rent each one and shoot for a few days. Both are great options though!
@ben_grubb
@ben_grubb 3 года назад
I have used the C70 a few times. Not side by side with a C200 though. I do like how you can build the C200 out more. That 4K 120fps is a real draw though. I think my ideal scenario would be C70 internals in a C200 body.
@r.8514
@r.8514 3 года назад
Thank you very much.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@videosforthepeople9130
@videosforthepeople9130 3 года назад
Nice review @Cliff Conway. Did you do a black balance on the c200? May have helped with the noise in the black. c70 won most tests, but the c200 crushed it on the recovery from overexposed - look at the sky color, more information retained..
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
I black balanced at the beginning of the day. I have owned both for a while and can tell you they aren’t even close in terms of noise, the c70 is much much cleaner
@patrickchase5614
@patrickchase5614 3 года назад
I think that the differences in high-ISO performance reflect the different gain architectures of the two cameras. The C200 uses conventional preamps, with a limited selection of physically realizable analog gains. The sensor behaves optimally when shooting at ISOs corresponding to those gains (400 and perhaps somewhere around 1600?), but shows increased noise when operating in between, because it has to use a lower-than-ideal analog gain and then scale digitally. The C70 has dual simultaneous gains, meaning that it applies both low- and high-gains to every sample, and then combines the resulting values. Light tones can use the results of the low gain if they would have saturated at the high gain, while shadows always benefit from the high gain. You would expect such a camera to have an advantage at low/mid ISOs as you saw, because at ultra-high ISO both cameras are basically using their highest gain for every sample (put another way, even the brightest scene tones are so dark that the C70 can use its high gain without saturating) and in that scenario the C70's dual-gain architecture doesn't give it any advantage.
@SamAxtell
@SamAxtell 3 года назад
I noticed you used a shotgun mic on top of the c70 and I’d love to know what you used to do that and how good the audio quality is when plugged directly into the camera and not to an external recorder. That would make a shotgun mic very versatile to use because you won’t have to buy another on-camera mic. Thank you!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
I use the nTG 3. The c70 pre amps are very good. I would reccomend a shorter shotgun mic though like the ntg5
@SamAxtell
@SamAxtell 3 года назад
@@GriffinConway Nice, that's my dream setup!
@IsaacAbunu
@IsaacAbunu 3 года назад
I thought your where doing a 1dx mark iii and c70 comparison.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
It’s in the works!
@KleberEleven
@KleberEleven 3 года назад
Great comparison bro! I've bought my C200 after watching your review and now the C70 in on my wish list haha...
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Haha I still love the c200. The c70 is great as well. Hope you and the family are doing well bro!
@KleberEleven
@KleberEleven 3 года назад
@@GriffinConway thank you brother! Happy Holidays!
@Elijahg1991
@Elijahg1991 3 года назад
It would be great if you made a video about dynamic range i am having a problem with finding a video that breaks it down well
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
I’ll keep that in mind!
@kuau714
@kuau714 3 года назад
C200 user also and working with Canon Cinema Raw Light works very well in Resolve. No issues what so ever except the larger files sizes.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
I agree resolve is way more optimized than premiere for cinema raw light. Unfortunately my editing team I work with is all in premiere so no switching for me
@gappo1301
@gappo1301 3 года назад
Thank you for your in-depth review. I’m in a such dilemma - I’ve got eos R with two rf lenses and want to buy either c70 or c200 as my first cinema camera. C70 costs here in the uk £4,800, c200 (also brand new) - £3,800. I’m still planning to keep eos R as a b-cam for now. I know that the logical thing is to go for c70 due to rf mount, but I’m gravitating towards c200 plus some good 24-70 sigma or canon lens. Albeit I’ll have two rf lenses 15-35 2.8 and 24-105 4 without much of a use. Really struggling here...
@YuriiRay
@YuriiRay 3 года назад
Go for c200. Color from C70 sucks
@stephanhawk7375
@stephanhawk7375 3 года назад
What codec were you shooting in? DId you mention that?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Both cameras were shot in their highest quality available codec...so for the c200 it was in raw the whole time except for the 120p which was shot in 8 bit 420 because that’s all that is available
@cire30a
@cire30a 3 года назад
On big sets do they frown upon hdmi extenders with Ethernet? Instead of Sdi
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
On larger sets that I am on we never really use hdmi extenders. It’s sdi cables or teradek systems if it’s an extended length
@DuffTV
@DuffTV 2 года назад
I'm really struggling with the form factor of the C70. On my very first C70 shoot last weekend it was a live stream of a half marathon and I was shooting interviews with the race winners and going live to vMix. The LCD in the C70 is not great and I missed the EVF and lack of SDI to run our wireless transmitter. It was like OMG this is just the wrong camera to use in this situation. I'm in a spin here on what to do but just might send it back and swap for a C200. We also run Canon Xf605 cameras, so for much of what we do the c200 might be a better fit for our workflow. Same batteries, similar menu set up, EVF and SDI. I really don't do high end work with big client demands so maybe the 4k 8 bit from the c200 will be fine. But for me it's the form factor. The lack of SDI and EVF are things I can't do without. Yes you can mount EVFs and larger LCD screens and a cage to the C70 but for me it's just all clumsy and I hate it. Thanks again Griffin I really enjoy your videos
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 2 года назад
Thank you for watching! I prefer the c200 form factor most of the time as well. Although, I really love my c70 once it is rigged up. Feel free to check out my "C70 Rig" video. I show the different setups for different use cases.
@martinparzenfilm3498
@martinparzenfilm3498 3 года назад
Good comparison .but compare raw code and a 10 Bit Codec in terms of noise is a Bit unequal because raw does no noise reduction internally, it’s raw image. But c70 seems pretty good camera for a lot of wedding filmmakers and stuff.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
I understand it is not a “apples to apples” comparison, but I mentioned that I didn’t do any noise reduction and it would perform better with some noise reduction. That said, it is insanely slow to apply noise reduction in premiere and these comparisons already become pretty big projects so for the sake of time I was unable to do it.
@BrandonDejon
@BrandonDejon 3 года назад
Great work! I appreciate the detail and thorough explanation. Thanks for the content! I've been waiting a month for my C70 order to be fulfilled lol. I'm living vicariously through you guys lol.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Haha you will be stoked when you get it for sure!
@BrandonDejon
@BrandonDejon 3 года назад
@@GriffinConway It’ll be here on Tuesday 🙌🏾Woohoo! Lol
@colinthomas2525
@colinthomas2525 Год назад
Can anyone answer how the extended nd (8/10stops) looks? Is it useful or is there bad colour shift etc. Thoughts.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway Год назад
Not noticeable at all, looks the same with no color shift
@colinthomas2525
@colinthomas2525 Год назад
@@GriffinConway thanks for the quick answer. I’m thinking about getting a c200 over a c100mii and I like the idea of 10stops of nd. Of course the camera has many other benefits over the c100mii. What’s your opinion on the the 1080p on the c200 vs the c100mii? Will my MacBook Air m1 16gb ram edit them the same? New shooter trying to buy his first camera so any help is great Griffin.
@theampedlife
@theampedlife 3 года назад
Great comparison thanks. I’m convinced that my C200 is just fine for a while to come. RAW will become increasingly manageable and storage cheaper. Can’t imagine letting go of RAW, EVF, SDI and overall form factor. I’ll say a prayer for Canon giving us 4K 10 bit external on the C200 for XMas.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
C200 is still a great camera! Thanks for watching!
@StevenFreitag
@StevenFreitag 3 года назад
That 4K 10 bit external will never happen 🥴
@theampedlife
@theampedlife 3 года назад
@@StevenFreitag yeah I’m with you on that one. But maybe ... the thought makes me happy for now 😉 Perhaps when 12 bit becomes the standard Canon will throw us a bone.
@KevKlopper
@KevKlopper 2 года назад
@@theampedlife the only bone canon will throw at you is one at your head if you don't buy their new cameras. Canon is the most ruthless company when it comes to product separation.
@christophermcguinness
@christophermcguinness 3 года назад
The C70 DR is excellent and 1600 ISO is really fantastic. I really never ago above that, but having the speed booster with the .71x adapter with such a clean 1600 ISO will be really nice for slow motion macro work! Like many others, SDI would be my number one wish for this camera. Thank you for taking the time to make this video Griffin.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Couldn’t agree more. Sdi is the one main disappointment, but there are ways around it with a monitor that can cross convert the signal for example. Thanks for watching Christopher!
@christophermcguinness
@christophermcguinness 3 года назад
@@GriffinConway Ageed, I have monitors that can do that... but having the second port and having it be SDI would just make me feel good! ;-)
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
@@christophermcguinness totally agree!
@JoshSmith-ct3fi
@JoshSmith-ct3fi Год назад
@@christophermcguinness what monitors can do that?
@19NineteenProductions
@19NineteenProductions 3 года назад
Although the dynamic range and sharpness of the c70 looks is better its just something about the look of the c200 and they way it renders color that I prefer. The c70 gives me dslr vibes but still a great camera.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
Both are great options for sure!
@darrylsmith3102
@darrylsmith3102 3 года назад
Is there any particular reason why all the shots from the C 200 look soft and/or out of focus?...
@itsjantore
@itsjantore 3 года назад
He probably just missed focus.
@darrylsmith3102
@darrylsmith3102 3 года назад
@@itsjantore He better hope! so.
@henrikedelbo1171
@henrikedelbo1171 3 года назад
If you set the noise reduction on the C70 to spacial:1 and frame correlation:1 you can get away with higher ISOs. You get no plasticky softness. The same applies to the C500.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
I tried a few different settings with the noise reduction and found it to have some frame ghosting
@KeithCreative
@KeithCreative 3 года назад
That c70 is 💪🏾. Great Job. Was that you boxing?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 года назад
C70 is a beast! Yep that was me haha.
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