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Canon EOS R1: Sensor Specs That Will Shock You! 

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@johnnyi2121
@johnnyi2121 4 месяца назад
So it’s a R3 MKii..?
@JohnSwen-p6b
@JohnSwen-p6b 4 месяца назад
A bit cynical are we? The R3 was a test platform for new technology (e.g Eye Tracking AF). I would expect the R3 to be a one and done camera. The R1 will be superior in every way.
@KindHappyLove
@KindHappyLove 4 месяца назад
I like how no one wants to admit that the R3 was the original R1.
@AzarathGirl123
@AzarathGirl123 4 месяца назад
Some of us knew all along
@stopthefomo
@stopthefomo 4 месяца назад
THIS
@6gwilliams
@6gwilliams 4 месяца назад
Yes I knew that all along, LOL
@janvanholten7592
@janvanholten7592 4 месяца назад
It's not only about MP's. And still, this is not official!
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr 4 месяца назад
Well it sounds like the R1 will be bigger than the R3. I think pro’s wanted a 1Dx size camera but mirrorless.
@sylerpr
@sylerpr 4 месяца назад
I am also a professional wildlife photographer and guide in the Yellowstone region and while it is possible to get nice images at 24mp, most wildlife photographers here have switched to Sony or Nikon because of the A1 and Z9 which put 45 megapixels in durable flagship bodies. I am personally very disappointed by these specs. Most of us also do landscape photography which benefits from that increased detail for large prints. National Park regulations make it so you can’t get closer than 100 meters from wolves or bears, so often, a 600mm lens AND some cropping is needed to get a nice image of certain species. In other ecosystems you might be able to get closer to your subject, but here it is just not possible most of the time without breaking the law or impacting the animal’s behavior. It is of course possible to get good images at a lower resolution but there is no guarantee that special moment happens close enough to you that you fill the frame and you miss far more shots than are made up for by a faster burst. For me a minimum of over 30 megapixels is required to remain competitive as a wildlife photographer in this part of the world. Based on specs so far, I would be happy with an R5II for wildlife but I am strongly hoping canon puts these specs into an R3 style body that has a vertical grip and larger battery that can power both focus motors on the 600mm F4.
@christophercarlimages9003
@christophercarlimages9003 4 месяца назад
Agree 100%. I am starting to believe that the low mpx apologists who tell you what you need are just the "influencers" who produce videos and have no clue what wildlife, and especially bird photographers want. My experience is that most have moved to 45+ mpx sensors and like tanklike bodies with big batteries. Canon doesn't even produce a camera like that. But they have FOUR 24mpx cameras offered now...
@zeiss1382
@zeiss1382 4 месяца назад
Most accurate comment here. I also use the 600 F4 and I so badly want the more powerful batteries in a future R5.
@davepastern
@davepastern 4 месяца назад
It's pretty clear that Canon doesn't care about the wildlife market...edit: more money is to be made in sports photographer. Wildlife photographers make nowhere near the same income as a good pro sports photographer. EVER. With that in mind, Canon will want to deliver a sports camera for sports photographers. Sports photographers don't want or need more than 30mp. They need SPEED and AF performance. 2 things the R1 will deliver. If you want to do wildlife, then the R5II will be the camera of choice. That's Canon's logic. Sony and Nikon work differently, and use different (imho, better) logic. They build a flagship camera that can do everything. You can expect Canon to continue to lose customers.
@zeiss1382
@zeiss1382 4 месяца назад
@@davepastern You’re correct but what you missed is that the R5 with smaller batteries cannot fully make the most of the big white primes. So while the R5 is good and fine, canons competition offers cameras that would fit that niche for us.
@davepastern
@davepastern 4 месяца назад
@@zeiss1382 that's BS. Jan Wegener and Duade Paton both use long super tele primes without issue and with a R5.
@glennn.3464
@glennn.3464 4 месяца назад
Wildlife photographers can’t have enough MP. If you can’t get close enough, especially with birds and small animals, it’s nice to have the ability to crop in a good bit when needed. Then again, there is really good upscaling software that’s always getting better. Likewise, higher ISO noise performance that may come with a higher MP sensor is not as big a problem as it once was because noice reduction software has gotten really good such as with DxO’s DeepPRIME XD among others.
@davepastern
@davepastern 4 месяца назад
I use Topaz Gigapixel for upscaling my full frame images if i want to print to A2 at 350dpi. For printing up to A3, the 24mp of my R3 is fine. I have the view that if you can't get close enough, then better luck next time. Tin man lee espouses the same logic when it comes to lighting in images, with many photographers, myself included, using AI masking to improve the lighting via software means. So, if you want to enter wildlife photography competitions, you'll want to nail your exposure, composition and get the animal large enough in the frame to avoid cropping. If you're adjusting exposure selectively, you'll most likely get disqualified.
@virus4188
@virus4188 4 месяца назад
Master of everything with a 24 mpx sensor and no 8K in such a large body... Thanks Canon. Someone please tell Canon that they are still running a race that others have already finished a long time ago and are already running the next one without Canon.
@AzarathGirl123
@AzarathGirl123 4 месяца назад
Canon is the new nikon😂
@virus4188
@virus4188 4 месяца назад
@@AzarathGirl123 The R1 next to the Z9 already looks like from a previous era.
@RandumbTech
@RandumbTech 4 месяца назад
I’m not the target buyer, but I’m disappointed for the people that are. This R1 is getting more underwhelming by the day. If it’s going to be that low resolution, at least put a global shutter in it. It now completely explains why Canon was so mad at Adorama for publishing specs that were BETTER than reality. Huge letdown across the board. Sony must be salivating with A1ii and A7Siv announcements right around the corner.
@krane15
@krane15 4 месяца назад
I keep waiting to be wow, instead all I've seen was compromises and excuses.
@davidbaker2347
@davidbaker2347 4 месяца назад
Having looked through Joshua's work, it's pretty clear why 24mp is enough for him. He shoots only landscapes and relatively large subjects. For photographing small birds for example, 24mp is a major limitation bordering on a dealbreaker. Please look up Jan Wegener's videos on the R3 or A9III for reference.
@DanCarr
@DanCarr 4 месяца назад
Yeah Jan is a good reference for sure.
@christophercarlimages9003
@christophercarlimages9003 4 месяца назад
Well stated. Joshua shoots expansive landscapes and large mammals from relatively close ranges. He's not shooting warblers from a kayak in bottomland swamps. Huge difference. Most birds aren't top predatory animals where you can drive up to them in an automobile within 50 feet. These are skittish creatures and distance and cropping are huge factors.
@zeiss1382
@zeiss1382 4 месяца назад
There are more accomplished wildlife photographers in the comments than that guy. And we would disagree with the 24MP being enough sentiment.
@TubaSolotheHiker
@TubaSolotheHiker 4 месяца назад
24MP is perfectly fine. I crop the files out of my R3’s all the time and the results are fantastic. Even when I have a deep crop. Actually hoping to scoop up a 3rd R3 to add to my fleet for this next high school sports season in the fall. The release of the R1 will but ensure I get an amazing price on another R3.
@jeffwaldorff236
@jeffwaldorff236 4 месяца назад
I’m a full-time professional nature landscape and wildlife photographer. I agree that most photographers don’t need a high megapixel cameraI; however, I print 60“ (and larger) prints all the time. Even uncropped, 24mp simply doesn’t cut it for large prints. I currently shoot with an R5 and plan to upgrade to the R5 II - and hoping it’ll be greater than 45mp. Everyone’s use-case is different and the R1 doesn’t fit mine. I think Canon is mostly targeting the professional sports photographer with the R1, and I’m fine with that. But at 24mp, the prior claim that it’ll be the “master of everything” - is simply false.
@billmartin1010
@billmartin1010 4 месяца назад
For birds, wildlife, and aviation, 24MP just won't cut it. I know. I've tried. I love the R3, but it just won't produce the kind of beautiful, detailed images that the R5 so easily does. The R3 AF is a lot of fun . . . but unless you're shooting subjects within very short range (portraits), or subjects where detail isn't so important (sports), the output is disappointing. This is why professional photographers use high-MP full frame and medium format cameras. My dream camera would be a 45MP R3 or R1. At 24MP, the camera is disqualified.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
Joshua illustrates that this isn't the case, and does so very well. He spends his full time getting shots from Antartica to New Zealand. What wildlife photography do you shoot Bill? How has 24mp failed you in the field?
@billmartin1010
@billmartin1010 4 месяца назад
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker , there is a real difference between "good enough" and outstanding. Many photographers (like Joshua) do poster quality work. The industry calls them 20-footers. (Some call them 6-footers -- the point being that they look fine from a distance.) That's fine for their market. Nothing wrong with that. But it's a finite market. I expect somewhat better than that. A 24MP camera will not produce an image of a bird in flight that stands up to art-gallery distance scrutiny -- unless you're going for that low-res look as an affectation. (P.S. If your printer won't print hi-res images, it's a waste to have a higher res image sensor. You can't print great images with a less-than-great printer, either.)
@janvanholten7592
@janvanholten7592 4 месяца назад
You don't have to buy it. Stick to a R5 then.
@davidmpoliveira1
@davidmpoliveira1 4 месяца назад
You'll have the R5 Mark II, buddy. Anyway, between 24 and 30MP there isn't a world of difference.
@alansach8437
@alansach8437 4 месяца назад
Except that up until a few years ago 16 and 20 mpx were the norm. Thousands of professional wildlife photographers have been getting amazing results using these cameras, and have the images hanging in galleries the world over to prove it, for years. Many still are. There's more to a camera than megapixels. If this camera won't suit your style of photography, by all means, wait for the R5 ii. That's why Canon makes many different models, but to categorically state that 24 megapixels won't work for anyone shooting wildlife is disproven by the facts. And, btw, most photographers out there insisting they "need" 45 or 60 megapixels aren't making massive prints that will be viewed at close quarters (how do you do that anyway? Don't you need to stand back far enough to see the whole print?) Most are posting on line or at best making small prints and maybe an occassional 20x30.
@selevideos6253
@selevideos6253 4 месяца назад
I have a Canon EOS R6II and I sometimes want more resolution not always to crop, but you definitely notice the higher MP count in bigger prints. I also think a flagship camera should offer a bit more than 24MP just because it costs so damn much. And the R1 will not stack up to the competition with 24MP unless it has some incredible advancements otherwise. To clarify I am not the target audience for an R1, the R5II is much more what I would get and probably will get.
@cybeliometalbest25
@cybeliometalbest25 4 месяца назад
Thank you, Simon, for this frustrating info. As I predicted: it started at 30 MP, then 24, and soon it will be 12 MP. At this rate, I might as well prefer taking photos with an old Nokia 7650. Honestly, Canon, why not just release a model with a VGA sensor while you're at it? And of course, no one other than me knows how many pixels I need, which is 45 MP.
@jpeltzphotodesign
@jpeltzphotodesign 4 месяца назад
If Canon wants to continue to lose market share, then 24mp is fine. I have been a loyal Canon shooter since 2008, because they always push boundaries… the 5D Mark II, the R5… The R5 came out four years ago. If the R1 doesn’t meet expectations with more than 30mp, I might be moving to a different ecosystem. We’ve waited and waited and if this is just a slightly upgraded R3, it’s going to push a lot of people away from Canon.
@alankefauver6187
@alankefauver6187 4 месяца назад
IMHO as a wildlife shooter, 24mps is not enough unless you have a lot of reach from the lens, and the "Big Whites" are so darn heavy. For me, I shot a 20mps sensor (OM-1) on my last safari and it was fine as long as i was at 800-1000mm FFE, but with the R5 and the RF 100-500 I was glad to have 45mps.
@zeiss1382
@zeiss1382 4 месяца назад
I use a 600f4 and no, 24MP is not enough for professional wildlife photography. Might be enough if you’re photographing Buffalo or elephants.. lol
@NVIK5
@NVIK5 4 месяца назад
I remember when this channel was talking about 100 Megapixel R1 and 8k at 120 fps...
@PaulBawby
@PaulBawby 4 месяца назад
This channel is all about feeding the RU-vid monster...
@pkoster5874
@pkoster5874 4 месяца назад
The good old days….
@CybrSlydr
@CybrSlydr 4 месяца назад
This news makes me even happier I'm using an A1. The flexibility those 50mp give me for my baseball, hockey, and airshow photos is great - and give me gorgeous landscapes too. 24 is disappointing.
@Mr.Deeds.
@Mr.Deeds. 4 месяца назад
well said...
@martinhommel9967
@martinhommel9967 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the update. In my opinion 24 MP is more than enough for most purposes, especially sports where fast focus and long lenses dominate. Wildlife is similar with the addition of durability being a major consideration.
@RyanWadePhotos
@RyanWadePhotos 4 месяца назад
Pro sports photographer here. I currently shoot an Olympus OM-D E-M1X that’s a 20MP micro 4/3 sensor. I shoot indoors. I shoot in low light. I’ve never had a problem producing images I can comfortably print at 30x40 inches with no sweat. If you’re good at shooting sports, wildlife, etc., 24MP is more than adequate.
@KevinNordstrom
@KevinNordstrom 4 месяца назад
I shoot 24 mp currently for birds. While ive been able to come away with some great shots, It's simply not enough resolution for my needs. Cropping degrades my photos rather quickly at 24mp. This has been just my observations i cant speak for anyone esle. Even with 600mm sometimes isnt even enough reach and often we cant zoom with our feet. If you get a shot you are happy with by not cropping or shooting larger mamals, then yeah, it's enough resolution but not for warblers, small song birds, bif, etc..I don't know a single landscape or bird photographer who happily already shoots high res. that will go from 45-60mp down to 24mp and say it's the exact same or its "enough." That kind of thinking bias is just trying to justify a low res purchase imo. Its like saying 5 fps is enough for bird photography beccause its "enough" to capture a shot when the standard is now 12-30 fps for better results. Ive saved my pennies almost 3 years for an upgrade from my current camera, and hesitate to drop the money because for some its not alot of of money, but for me $5,000 is a massive finanical investment. I finnaly have the funds and going to be patient until the final specs are released on the r1 and r5mk2, which we still dont fully know the final specs of. Im not a gear whore, i care more about the final results in the field, however in my opinion this is underwhelming for a flagship. Canon is playing catch up with 3 yr old technology already out, and Sony and nikon will be releasing their mark 2 of their flagships probably within the next 12-18 months. Clearly the r1 is not my niche, but its definitely not "a master of everything" and is just "meh" for a flagship as they claim if this holds true. With all that said, im not moving away from canon, as I'm heavily invested in RF glass, and happy overall, i just wish they would leapfrog the competition. Blow sony and nikon out of the water for 3 years with their flagship. That makes for good competition. Will the r1 and r5mk2 really be way ahead of the their competition? Who knows at this point. I really hope so. I guess we will see. Keep up the great work simon. 👍
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
You're doing the right thing... evaluating your business needs and waiting to see if the camera capabilities satisfy those needs. One more video coming out today Kevin ;)
@davidmag479
@davidmag479 4 месяца назад
As an R3 owner and freelance sports shooter, I can concur that 24mp works fine for me particularly for working in "the field" at soccer, cricket or motorcycle events. However, it would have been great to have the option of a higher res sensor with the ability to scale down the image size for different working scenarios. I found the R3 a big step up in performance from the 1dx mkiii and, after a lot of tinkering with the AF tracking settings, now have it working the way I need it to work. The R3 does have its flaws though, specifically if tracking a subject and a group of potential targets enter the frame the AF tracking more often than not jumps to another face/head in the scene. However, with customised rear buttons, its easy to quickly change to the traditional single pt AF and manually track your target. Hopefully the new AF system in the R1 can improve on the subject tracking accuracy in this sort of scenario.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
I am a little bit, surprised that they didn't bump it up a little bit. But I'm also pleading ignorance here because I don't know the full sweetest specifications of this camera and what it can do. After all the Sony AI mark three has the same resolution, but as many fans
@carlmcneill1139
@carlmcneill1139 4 месяца назад
I have a z6 II and a z8. As you know, the z6 II is 24 mp and the z8 is close to 47 mp. The z6 II is perfectly fine for everything I do. I don't print humongous prints to need high resolution but there are times when my lens doesn't have enough reach and I have to crop in. I have the 180-600mm and sometimes it's not enough. I mainly bought the z8 for the focus tracking and to not have screen blackout in burst mode. There are other features that come with the z8 that make it worth having over the z6 II. I think people are obsessed with high resolution. If you use the right lens for the job then there's no need to crop. Sometimes you have to because you can't move closer. There may also be situations where you want to get a full body shot at a sports event and then later you want to crop in on their face. That's where the high resolution comes in.
@aadithyanjr1382
@aadithyanjr1382 4 месяца назад
24 MP is pretty disappointing. Sure anyone can make an argument that 24 MP is more than enough and indeed even 20MP of the 1DXmk3 was more than enough for a lot of professionals. However, considering what the competition is offering, no one should be placed in a position where they have to justify the shortcomings of a flagship. This camera was hyped to be the 'master of all' camera. What's the point when the 'all' has an * with subtext saying 'under specific circumstances. As a Canon shooter myself, I and frankly lots of the general audience look at a flagship like the best a brand can offer all piled into one.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
This is not about considering the competition, this is about the value chain: delivering value. I included an excerpt from Joshua for a reason. He is a world class Wildlife and nature photographer and gets very good results. I don't see the R1 as a flagship camera: the master of everything, jack of all trades. It is a purpose built sports/fast action camera. The R5 is more of a jack of all trades.
@Photogopinion
@Photogopinion 4 месяца назад
Oh. ‘Not a “flagship camera” ‘ any more? What?!!!
@aadithyanjr1382
@aadithyanjr1382 4 месяца назад
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker "It is a purpose built sports/fast action camera". I see. Well it that case as someone else pointed out the R1 is now looking like an R3 mk2. And speaking as a wildlife photographer I would gladly prefer higher MPs with comparatively worse noise performance. We have denoising software that works wonders. If you don't see the R1 as a flagship, then I guess I'll wait for the R5mk2.
@mikebrownhill4662
@mikebrownhill4662 4 месяца назад
24 megapixels is definitely "enough" - but I think the question a lot of people will ask is whether it's "GOOD enough" for a long-awaited Canon flagship camera in 2024 when other brands are offering a lot more resolution in their flagship bodies. The R1 will be a very expensive body and for most professional sports/news photographers it will be a no-brainer to get one. A lot of wildlife photographers - me included - will take some convincing though. I photograph small birds often and make prints - sometimes up to 24 inches - and resolution was the only reason I held off on the R3. I will probably still get an R1 - the rest of those specs look excellent - but I'll also need an R5ii for some situations when I know I will crop very heavily. I just hope some of these R1 features make it into the R5ii.
@ruralmontanan
@ruralmontanan 4 месяца назад
Professional wildlife photographer here, and I agree, 24MP is a joke at this point. Canon likes to tell us what’s best for us because they can’t compete on the sensor tech apparently. Sure, drop your file sizes and speed improves, but both Nikon and Sony are doing speed AND megapixels. The world is moving on and Canon is stuck in the past. If I have the choice of more data AND speed, versus choosing one or the other, I’m going with the former. Critters are dangerous at times and fleeting moments happen often where you don’t have time to get closer. Cropping is essential with wildlife. Had the budget set aside for an R1 but there’s not a chance I’ll be dropping down to 24MP.
@J_Maverick16Aviation
@J_Maverick16Aviation 4 месяца назад
Everything looked great, until the 24MP dropped. I believe the R3 was probably a way for Canon to provide pros a good platform from which they could gather feedback from what the R1 would be getting and could be turned into with more R&D. This while giving Canon a timeframe to put those into the final model while still giving an option to those who needed a reliable mirrorless body for sports in the mean time.
@georgegretsas3400
@georgegretsas3400 4 месяца назад
24 MP ?? - What an absolute disgrace !!! - if this resolution turns out to be accurate, then I am selling all of my Canon gear and moving never to return….
@RayValdezPhotography
@RayValdezPhotography 4 месяца назад
Everyone is buying flagships now....goodbye
@martinhommel9967
@martinhommel9967 4 месяца назад
Why?
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr 4 месяца назад
Lets us know when you put up your gear for sale. I only buy used gear.
@nejckotnik
@nejckotnik 4 месяца назад
An amazing ISO performance and that dynamic range at higher ISO's is much more important to me than any high megapixel count. I don't think that the majority od people print massive prints or crop heavily.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
Joshua said in his podcast that the most he prints out is 40x60 inch prints and 24 mp is more than enough for that.
@sylerpr
@sylerpr 4 месяца назад
@ordinaryfilmmaker I also print at this size and I wouldn’t say 24mp is more than enough. It is enough, yes, but 45mp will simply produce a sharper image.
@funknick
@funknick 4 месяца назад
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker must be nice for Joshua. The wildlife photographers I know here near Banff/Canmore are all printing MUCH larger than that and as a result, their clients pay top dollar for it. I know for a fact they use higher MP cameras out of necessity. Some even delve into medium format to really nail the shot. Good for Joshua though, he's clearly found his niche!
@comicswithfrank3762
@comicswithfrank3762 4 месяца назад
I'm sorry. There's no way that it's going to be 24 megapixels. That's going to make a lot of people not want it. And for a camera that's already going to be around $6k to alienate more people from it makes no sense at all.
@hawaiifreespeechnews
@hawaiifreespeechnews 4 месяца назад
It makes perfect sense for good low light capabilities you can’t push it beyond that
@comicswithfrank3762
@comicswithfrank3762 4 месяца назад
@hawaiifreespeechnews I think with 30 or 35 you still would have good low light. The R3 already has 24 mp. It's basically an R3 mark ii
@hootbaez6185
@hootbaez6185 4 месяца назад
I don’t think you really understand the market for this camera. Don’t know if you know of Jeff Cable, but he is about to head off to his 7th or 8th Olympics. He is the official photographer for USA water polo. Despite the fact that he is may shoot a couple of thousand images during a match, he is contractually obligated to get 5-10 finished images back to Team USA with 15 minutes of the end of the match. Let me repeat that. He has 15 minutes to download 2k images, go through them, and find 5-10 images to do a light retouching, and then get them to Team USA. He doesn’t have time to wait for huge files to buffer and download. If you need larger files, great! Get the R5 II, that is not and never has been what the 1 series cameras have been about.
@markysng
@markysng 4 месяца назад
@@hootbaez6185 Let me just correct something. These photographers don't work alone, they have a whole media team at the desk that receives the images wirelessly and have to sieve through them WHILE the photographer shoots so that theres live updates from the source. But you are absolutely right about the fast-pace nature of the work. When I have done news photography and covered sports events, there are times where we don't even send in the RAWs and just send in JPGs so that the desk can process them a lot faster.
@comicswithfrank3762
@comicswithfrank3762 4 месяца назад
@hootbaez6185 I mean they already have the R3 for that. The rumors have pointed around a jack of all trades camera but it's a little crippled in my opinion. As a 24 mp camera can only do 6k video. Again. This is all just in my opinion.
@Mark.Brindle
@Mark.Brindle 4 месяца назад
As a commercial sports photographer 24MP is just fine. I’m currently shooting with two R3’s. I have already told my camera supplier I’ll take the first two R1’s. Why is 24MP enough. I don’t need to crop very much. My usual lenses are the EF 300mm f2.8L II, EF 600mm f4L III & EF 800mm f4.5L and 1.4xIII and 2xIII. My primary sport to shoot is surfing competitions. I just want incredible AF. I’ll keep my R3’s for the more dangerous shots like standing in wast high surf etc. I just wish Canon gave the R3 more love. Almost no updates in a year. For a body that cost $au8,500, 18 months ago, I would get more updates for a $200 mobile phone.
@PaulBawby
@PaulBawby 4 месяца назад
This is so funny, just because a "professional nature photographer" says 24 mp is good enough for him, suddenly all the professional who use the R5, Z9, Z8, A1 are not good professional anymore because they want more megapixels... It's just the opinion of one person, he doesn't define the "criterias" for what a professional wildlife/nature photographer should use. Come on, show respect for the intelligence of your viewers, and stop pushing silly arguments just to feed the RU-vid algorithm and get more comments.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
It's the opinion of a lot of people from the comments. It is also the opinion that it is not enough. You're art of the discussion so people can earn the different viewpoints. Respect people do their job differently and understand why.
@PaulBawby
@PaulBawby 4 месяца назад
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker talking about respect, I’ve been reading through all the comments on many of you videos, and the way you choose to respond to anything that could be interpreted remotely as criticism shows how little respect YOU have for discussing topics with viewers that don’t agree with YOU.
@zeiss1382
@zeiss1382 4 месяца назад
@@OrdinaryFilmmakerYeah like there aren’t actual professional wildlife photographers in the comments who are disagreeing and you simply dismiss them? Try practicing what you preach .
@derekv6479
@derekv6479 4 месяца назад
24MP? Hard pass!!!
@josecarranza5006
@josecarranza5006 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@tonygerassi1502
@tonygerassi1502 4 месяца назад
Wow Sony any Nikon must really be driving Canon insane. If these specs are true, then it’s basically an R3mkii and they just killed the R3 line to make the R1 compete with the A9iii. If the R5ii specs are true with a stacked sensor, they just killed the R5 price range and are easily going to increase the price by another 1k because of the stacked sensor to compete with the A1 and Z9/8. The entire canon line is starting to look like a mangled mess for consumers.
@ytr8989
@ytr8989 4 месяца назад
The R1 and R3 are made for different target markets. Just like the R5 and R6 are tuned towards different photographers. Canon has always differentiated itself from Nikon by offering more options.
@tonygerassi1502
@tonygerassi1502 4 месяца назад
@@ytr8989 please explain the difference between the R3 being a sport photographers camera and the R1 being a sports photography camera? Also at launch the R6ii was $2500, the R5 was $3900, the R3 was $6000. If the R5 is stacked, it will easily be $4800, so why would you buy an R3 when a stacked R5 and R1 (R3mkii cough cough) exists? Better yet, you just lost that market that would upgrade from R6’s to R5’s for the resolution, as it would be a $2300 price to upgrade. A z7ii is $3000 ($1000 more to upgrade from a Z6ii at $2000) and a A7Rv is $3900 ($1400 more to upgrade from a A7iv $2500) So you could see why if the R5 is stacked rumours are true and the R1 is really an R3mkii, then the entire canon line is going to become a random consumer nightmare mess
@christophercarlimages9003
@christophercarlimages9003 4 месяца назад
​@@ytr8989the R3 and R1 are nearly identical. What are the two different markets??
@Whatever-f6v
@Whatever-f6v 4 месяца назад
Canon ought to know that sometimes, it’s the environment limiting us from getting closer to the object, despite we already have the big white prime lens…. So 24MP by todays’ standard for a R1 flagship is a disgrace. I would just keep my R3 and see what happens to the R5ii then. Hope this 24MP is not true and I still hope Canon give us better sensor….
@stopthefomo
@stopthefomo 4 месяца назад
So competitor to the new Sony sports camera (aka R3 successor and definitely NOT “master of everything”) - since “Very heavy cropping” in video capture is my use case i have to pass on this. Let’s see what the R5C2 brings
@Beaver-be8vk
@Beaver-be8vk 4 месяца назад
Maybe 24mp is enough for pros but I’m not a pro. I need to crop. Heavily sometimes. And you might say well you don’t need this camera then. But when does that stop anyone. Plus it’s not really the pros you need to convince to buy this. They make money when they sell to as many people as possible. I’m the one they need to convince to buy this. And I’m not convinced at all.
@krane15
@krane15 4 месяца назад
The point of tech is innovation. Not stagnation. Otherwise, we'd still all be using film. What was also "good enough" at the time. Those that fail to innovate, will get left behind.
@kklbrundige
@kklbrundige 4 месяца назад
Currently on a 1DX mark II. I love the big integrated vertical grip design and I want more resolution. Looks like it’s time to sell my stuff and get a Z9.
@przybylskipawel
@przybylskipawel 4 месяца назад
My viewpoint is much different. For wildlife I DO NEED heavy cropping. If R1 has 0.8ms readout time and much better S/N and DR than a9III, it will be great sports camera. But not for wildlife. if R5II has much faster readout time than R5 and 30fps 14-bit raws and 8K60p RAW and good-looking 4k120p and good looking fullHD240p, that would be all I need as a wildlife shooter and it would made the R1 irrelevant to me. Of course 60fps with C-AF even in jpegs or Heifs or preferably 12-bit compressed raws, or even 40-50fps anyhow, would be welcome.
@KevinNordstrom
@KevinNordstrom 4 месяца назад
I agree, the only people saying 24mp is enough for wildlife aren't shooting anything higher than 24 mp lol, i shoot 24mp with the RP and its simply not enoigh for cropping, I've yet to hear someone with an r5 or z8, z9, a1 say they would go back to 24mps for birds.
@MarkoNara
@MarkoNara 4 месяца назад
24mpx is not enough when you are poor and cant afford those big white fixed supertelephoto lenses... but any broke coment its irrelevant because if you are poor, cant afford the R1 either... 😂 Including my comment..
@alvinblackwell268
@alvinblackwell268 4 месяца назад
😮 at this point I'd think 🤔 Canon is playing 3D chess to rumors chess 😅😂😂. NOBODY KNOWS what the specs are except Canon and the select few photographers testing the R1😇
@tonypags5315
@tonypags5315 4 месяца назад
Wow Simon if that is true , I’d have to really consider pros/cons before I give up my R3.
@StevenHoagland
@StevenHoagland 4 месяца назад
Oh such a gut punch! 45mp has been a Godsend for wildlife with my R5 and EF 400mm f2.8 for that detail and cropability. Although 24mp will be better for limiting diffraction softening at high f-stops (such as with sunrises at the beach), I really wanted 45mp or at least 30mp in the R1. Now I have to think about getting a 600 f4 or 800 f5.6 as compensation.
@krane15
@krane15 4 месяца назад
I can watch a movie at 720p. Why buy 4k TV/monitor?
@Carlos-tm6zk
@Carlos-tm6zk 4 месяца назад
I do professional portraits, outdoor, studio, people, pets, corporate, families… I use the Canon R6 and It’s always been excellent! It’s “only” 20mp, but so what? I almost never crop, I fill the frame 90% of the time. Sure, with more mp you get more cropping margin, but if you’re needing to crop that heavily, maybe you need a longer lens. I also do landscape photography in my free time with… the R6! Excellent IQ and sharpness. All best
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing your viewpoint Carlos. Much appreciated.
@johncooper9746
@johncooper9746 4 месяца назад
There are many other types of photography where 20 mp is a hinderance , but its certainly not a majority.
@kaiyin1988
@kaiyin1988 4 месяца назад
I also own the Sony A1 and Canon R3. R3 24mp is enough for most if not crop the image. But when you try Sony A1 with AI denoise, I trust the high megapixel will be the future for the top model sport camera. and more easy to crop the image.
@climber950
@climber950 4 месяца назад
Hey Simon, ever consider using something like an R8 for your studio camera? We bought 4 R50’s just for B camera angles for our wedding business to supplement our C70, R5, and R6. It might help your workflow for shooting stuff outside the studio.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
Not really. As I am getting the R5 II to cover for the channel, I'll just leave the MK1 in the studio. No need to calibrate a new camera and know what to expect from it ;)
@Kunoswildworld
@Kunoswildworld 4 месяца назад
​@@OrdinaryFilmmakerhey Simon can you tell how does the older ef 180 mm macro lens works in rf system like with r5?
@miletacekovic
@miletacekovic 4 месяца назад
For birds 24 MP is probably not enough, for larger wildlife, probably yes.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
A lot of people are happy with this amount. Canon had said they were going to talk to R3 customers and see what they wanted most in the R1... so it seems high resolution wasn't the most important capability.
@christophercarlimages9003
@christophercarlimages9003 4 месяца назад
​@@OrdinaryFilmmakerI think that in itself is indicative of bird photographers rejecting the R3 from the beginning. And that the R3 was basically a placeholder for the R1
@6gwilliams
@6gwilliams 4 месяца назад
So I guess the 24.6mp A9III now isn't looking so low in its megapixels. Pro and hobbyist alike are making great shots with that camera, as will all the Canon R1 users . It is more about capturing that shot with top AF , fps and pre-capture for sports and wildlife photographers. . Cheers and thanks Simon for helping clear the air.
@DieHardEddieEdwards
@DieHardEddieEdwards 4 месяца назад
People need to come to terms with what people really need. If you want a fast 24 MP camera and shoot Canon, the R3 is an excellent option and at a lower price. And has excellent AF, even if the R1’s is slightly better. For wildlife shooters, the R5 is a better option because you need to crop and likely cheaper.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
Very good point. What do you think about shooting wildlife with a camera like they R7?
@DieHardEddieEdwards
@DieHardEddieEdwards 4 месяца назад
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker My point is that there’s tons of options for that. We’ve plateaued in terms of FPS, megapixels and AF improvements for most users. There’s tons of good options, especially at 24 MP and 45 MP.
@sylerpr
@sylerpr 4 месяца назад
I agree, but most pro wildlife shooters use 400 or 600mm rf primes that require the bigger battery of the R3 or R1 to power the second focus motor, so an R5II needs to be in an R3 form factor to meet the wants of most pro wildlife photographers.
@DieHardEddieEdwards
@DieHardEddieEdwards 4 месяца назад
@@sylerpr Yeah, they buy a battery grip. Wild life shooters aren’t going back to 24 MP when there’s fast high resolution cameras. They’ll use a Z8/Z9, and R5 II or an A1. Obviously that’s not true in every case, but it’s hard to imagine TONS of wildlife shooters flocking to this when they could use the R5 II or just get the R3 at a reduced cost.
@sylerpr
@sylerpr 4 месяца назад
Agreed. On the current R5 though the battery grip still doesn’t allow function of the second focus motor and the buttons are laid out differently on the grip, so a battery grip is limited in its functionality for the needed purpose.
@der_vegane_bre7923
@der_vegane_bre7923 4 месяца назад
Tell me 1 reason why this should be better than the r3 mark ii
@hootbaez6185
@hootbaez6185 4 месяца назад
The second card won’t be an SD card. It will have Dual CFexpress cards. This is a big deal for many working professionals.
@hootbaez6185
@hootbaez6185 4 месяца назад
And if you say that the R3 Mk 2 will have this, it won’t. I have been watching Canon market segmentation for nearly 20 years and this is the type of thing they save for the 1 series.
@tembak88
@tembak88 4 месяца назад
R1 is more like r3 mark 2 but canon want users to pay premium for it?
@JeffandLeslie
@JeffandLeslie 4 месяца назад
I shoot mainly wildlife and nature with a smattering of head/shoulder shots for organizations. Most of my time for the organizations is for non-profits and I donate my time and photos to them as a way of supporting an organization I like. I do manage to sell a few prints from time to time and have had several published but I do not consider myself a working pro. Fact is, I retired from one job and really am not looking to start another. Photography is pleasure to me, work is... well... work. With that said, I currently shoot a Canon EOS R7 (somewhere around 80mp FF equiv).. I switched to that from a Nikon D500 setup (including backup camera). Your friend is probably right about "need" but "want" is a different story. With a higher MP body I have the option to crop in if needed and I have the option to print really large prints if someone wants to pay the price for them. With 24mp, I can say most of my work would be covered, but I would lose the flexibility of cropping in on a small bird or flower. "Zoom with your feet" is not always an option for nature photographers. We are frequently photographing on public land where restrictions about going off trail are enforced and we are frequently photographing in ecologically sensitive areas where getting closer can damage the ecosystem or endanger the photographer (i.e. falling off a cliff). Therefore having the option is a good thing at least for me.
@FredDedzi
@FredDedzi 4 месяца назад
These specs with the 24MP sensor are good if priced at $5000, not something like $7-8k. I myself of course shoot with R6 II for my job and it is more than enough, and R1 is not a camera I would possibly need at this phase of my career, but I wish the megapixels were 45. Let’s wait for the R5 II and hope it does not come with 24MP as well!
@krane15
@krane15 4 месяца назад
No matter how you look at it, 24mp is old tech. Better to just keep what you have and use that money for accessories. Especially all the pros.
@bojonsson2363
@bojonsson2363 4 месяца назад
If the R5 II comes with 24 Mp I will buy the first version of R5 quickly before they go out of stock. The problem is what will happen in the future, what upgrade will be available.
@jsan7610
@jsan7610 4 месяца назад
20 from my R6 & 24 from my R8 is plenty. Never had a single client complain about resolution. Video in clog 3 looks amazing as well. All my video clients are PLEASED
@christophercarlimages9003
@christophercarlimages9003 4 месяца назад
If they are so good, why do we need another 24mpx camera from Canon? And the privilege of paying $5K more for it? Shouldn't we be getting substantially better specs for that extra $5K
@jsan7610
@jsan7610 4 месяца назад
@christophercarlimages9003 well obviously canon wants to sell cameras, that's why they keep producing them. People keep buying them 🤷🏿‍♂️ if you want more rez then go with R5 m1/m2 it's tailored towards sports and birders
@SteveMitchell-bt8ez
@SteveMitchell-bt8ez 4 месяца назад
24MP If that's adequate, then why bother with the R1? Just keep using the R3 and save a load of money.
@hawaiifreespeechnews
@hawaiifreespeechnews 4 месяца назад
We have to wait so freakin long for the R1 to come out 😒, I sure hope that R5ii comes with improved autofocus tracking and 8k 60fps
@AVerkhovsky
@AVerkhovsky 4 месяца назад
I looked up the podcast. The name of the guy is Holko, not Holku. He said he EXPECTS the dynamic range of R1 to be one stop better and that he would test it, he did not say he knows for a fact that it is one stop better.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
I spoke to him outside of the podcast.
@jeromelucas7278
@jeromelucas7278 4 месяца назад
LOL that's a R3 with a software update
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
Are you aware of the significance of a one stop improvement in signal to noise ratio, performing better in High ISO? There's no way to deliver that in software. It requires updates to the sensor.
@funknick
@funknick 4 месяца назад
​@@OrdinaryFilmmaker I agree with you Simon, it is notice-able. However, I think we can all agree that the improvements are beginning to step into the "diminishing returns" territory. As you've said in your own videos, you have to ask yourself the question, "is the current R3/R5 good enough for me?" With the steep prices on these devices, I think it's becoming harder than ever to convince someone they actually need to upgrade. Hence the somewhat exaggerated (but also legitimately amusing) statements by @jeromelucas7278 here.
@pkoster5874
@pkoster5874 4 месяца назад
I have an R1 in pre order. It the 24mp is confirmed by Canon (making it a R3II), I will cancel my order and buy the flagship Sony. The time has finally come to make that decision.
@HeadlessChickenTO
@HeadlessChickenTO 4 месяца назад
24mp...i can't say whether its enough or not, i'm no pro. I do shoot wildlife, specifically birding whenever i can on my R7 with its 32mp APS-C with a Sigma 150-600c. Otherwise, i'm just a dad shooting my kids at karate, Wonderland, their birthdays, at swinming lessons, my cousin's wedding, etc. And its been more than fantastic for this purpose. Thats why the R1 and even the R5ii doesn't really excite me much other than to scratch my curiosity and ponder what coupd trickle down to maybe a possible R7ii, or whatever other possible budget friendly full frame. Theres still an R2 and R9. But the disapointement, i can feel from a different perspective...its a flagship. Adequate doesnt usually associate itself with the best you've got.
@martinpettinger
@martinpettinger 4 месяца назад
Hi ... I have shot the R3 with a 500mm and 600mm from the get go... I still love it ... super images with accurate fast autofocus and good dynamic range, wonderful ergonomics and a battery that will take 4000 shots and it does not over heat ! Small birds are never easy... sitting quiet and waiting with get results .... a Robin at 20 metres is still a Robin regardless of the mega pixel count you try to put on it. Best regards to you all .
@aaronjonellhall1937
@aaronjonellhall1937 4 месяца назад
Literally sounds more like an R3 Mark II Than an R1 unless Canon eventually plans a R1X in the future
@christophercarlimages9003
@christophercarlimages9003 4 месяца назад
Canon's love of 24 mpx is so 2016...let's pay $3500 more for a rebranded R3. I can't buy this notion that large mpx files are more detrimental to workflow than having to store and cull nearly identical images resulting from 240fps shooting. Almost seems like it's influencers receiving product that are on the low mpx bandwagon...
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
You haven't addressed the stated capabilities of the camera. Does much better signal to nose ratio and high ISO low light capabilities matter to you?
@christophercarlimages9003
@christophercarlimages9003 4 месяца назад
@@OrdinaryFilmmakerwhy is it that instead of accepting the wants of many, you continually push the idea that 24 mpx is enough?. No disrespect to Joshua but he's far from the first name that comes to mind (never heard of him before your video) in the world of bird photographers where detail is king. Many bird photographers want more than 24mpx, and they also want a premium build, a larger battery that moves big primes better, and autofocus that isn't second tier. Does Canon offer that?. No. R5 has reduced frame rates because of battery capacity, second tier autofocus and the body is an egg in comparison to the 1-series. All we get is apologists who say, "you don't need that". This is the FOURTH 24mpx mirrorless ff camera that Canon has made. How about some more options??
@zeiss1382
@zeiss1382 4 месяца назад
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker I can eliminate noise through 50 different programs. Who cares about noise anymore? And I shoot dawn and dusk.
@LaytonParham
@LaytonParham 4 месяца назад
With Current software you can enlarge photos to almost any size, so 24MP is no big deal breaker! Think about clean high ISO! and high dynamic range!!!
@funknick
@funknick 4 месяца назад
In an era where "zoom in and enhance" is rapidly becoming a reality (instead of bad writing in a CSI: Miami plot)... I tend to agree with you. We're rapidly hitting a point where "clean files" is everything for editing.
@jordanmitchell1433
@jordanmitchell1433 4 месяца назад
24 is mildly disappointing. I personally own an R6II and 24mp has never bothered me, but I was hoping it would have more to better compete with the A1
@billrhea
@billrhea 4 месяца назад
When I shoot my R5 and R6 side by side when I edit I can not tell. 24 would be fine. I need a better focus system. It has to lock on a subject and stay on they.
@kennethlui2268
@kennethlui2268 4 месяца назад
Good. I won’t buy the R1 which will be more expensive than the R5II which has 45 mp I want. Buying R5II will save me money. For animals and sports, I guess 24 mp might be adequate. For birds, especially hummingbirds and other small song birds, I want the flexibility of more mp to crop as they are shy for me to get close. I am talking wild birds, not birds that go to your feeders. R1 is for professional which is a small niche group of individuals. R5II is for me who are prosumers. Why R1 and R3 both have the same mp? Could it be R3 II? 24 mp is shockingly low. Their bread and butter model is not R1 anyway. If it is really R1, then R3 will be gone forever. This explains why the R1 development announcement didn’t mention the sensor resolution which is embarrassing to the majority of us who are not professionals. If R5II is less than 45mp, I will switch to Sony.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing your viewpoint Kenneth. Think of the R3 as the lite version of the R1. The R1 is the best of the best in every way while the R3 has compromised capabilities.
@noctwice
@noctwice 4 месяца назад
Honestly the majority of pros also shoot on the 5 series and this has been true at least since the 5D II was introduced in 2005. Personally it’s hard to see how the 1 series will be much of an upgrade. There was already not much difference between the R3 and the R6 mark II. Here is hoping there is more to look forward to with the R5 mark II
@thomaschamberlin2485
@thomaschamberlin2485 4 месяца назад
I shoot wildlife and the Nikon Z9 has spoiled me in being able to flip to Dx mode and still get a 20 MP image. I love my 24 MP Nikon Zf for its amazing low light sensitivity. I could use 24 MP for wildlife. It would just mean going back to teleconverters and higher ISO's instead of using DX mode. Better high ISO performance of 24 MP might make up for that, but for close backgrounds it would be a sacrifice for depth of field.
@zoomboy57
@zoomboy57 4 месяца назад
I'm a professional sports photographer and have been shooting my Canon 1Dx Mk III cameras since January of 2020 and I or my clients have ever had a problem with the the 20 meg resolution. Accurate fast autofocus and good dynamic range is everthing I need.
@zeiss1382
@zeiss1382 4 месяца назад
Great, then the R3 would be perfect for you. Not sure why canon needs the R1 and R3. How many fast action cameras do they need?
@colddish
@colddish 4 месяца назад
When I owned the R I realized 30M pixels is the sweet spot, images look silky smooth yet not taking up as much space.
@Mrphilosophicalutube
@Mrphilosophicalutube 4 месяца назад
If the sensor size is 24 MP then its a rebranded R3. All that canon did was improve the dynamic range by 1 stop with an improved autofocus with no major improvement in Sensor development. R1 was rumored for over 5 years and R3 was introduce 3 years ago and now the difference in R1 & R3 is marginal considering the time Canon took to develop R1 and we still don't have a confirmation on shipping yet. Z9 & A1 are better choices for many if Canon does not have a 40+ MP sensor and one might just buy an R3 over R1 or an R5 mark ii.
@timothylinn
@timothylinn 4 месяца назад
One concern I’ve had for a while is that Canon would release the R5 II just before the R1, holding back quad-pixel AF for the R1 and making R5 shooters wait another 4-5 years for that tech. I really hope that isn’t what happens.
@bojonsson2363
@bojonsson2363 4 месяца назад
It might be enough with 24 Mp in many cases. However it is not enough for me to upgrade to this one from what I already have. When I buy a new camera I accept better image quality in all my pictures from the new camera not only better autofocus and better low light capabilities. I will wait for the R5 mkii and see what it brings.
@LukeDusenbury
@LukeDusenbury 4 месяца назад
24MP is plenty. Side by side I have a hard time telling the difference in perceived resolution between my R5 and R3 raw files. This doesn’t upset me at all.
@arnolttbromanskie9733
@arnolttbromanskie9733 4 месяца назад
24MP is a good sweet spot and makes totally sense that the latest sensor tech doesn’t come in highest resolution and it’s just disappointing because of the expectation what the eos r1 might be after canon waste time with some needless cameras such as r100 or r8 (IMHO). And it’s the first release more for a dedicated experienced professional that need this as a tool. My hope is that this camera is again a dream camera that I probably never buy 😇
@urosjovanovic3142
@urosjovanovic3142 4 месяца назад
Does anyone still have any doubts abot the R3 being the "original" R1? I was 98% sure until now. If this info is true, I'm 100% sure. It's undoubtedly going to be a great camera, but saying 24mp is "absolutely enough" is not realistic - sure, some people prefer it and that's ok, but you cannot make it an absolute for everyone. It's like me saying 15fps is "absolutely enough" because I don't shoot sport events. If it's enough for me, it doesn't mean it's enough for everyone. I'm curious to see the sensor readout speed, that's where the R1 needs to shine.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
This camera is designed for sports photographers. Just like buying a car. A van offers a lot of utility, but isn't very fast. It's still a compromise because it can't carry as much as a truck. Same with cameras. purpose built cameras will narrow who they are designed for, but deliver better results in that group. Nikon went a different route, which had me thinking Canon might follow, but they are sticking to developing a camera with the R3 as a base. I too am curious about the sensor readout.
@thegrumpycanadian274
@thegrumpycanadian274 4 месяца назад
I made this same comment a while ago and was told I did not know what I was talking about. I’m now 100% sure also.
@urosjovanovic3142
@urosjovanovic3142 4 месяца назад
@@thegrumpycanadian274 there's no doubt anymore
@natureredux1957
@natureredux1957 4 месяца назад
@@urosjovanovic3142 Well sure it is, this doesn't change anything.
@urosjovanovic3142
@urosjovanovic3142 4 месяца назад
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker I absolutely agree, and I would also say that even among photographers who shoot fast action there are the ones that need high mp sensors , and the ones that don't. It's tricky to frame a photo correctly when you're shooting a small bird that's flying around frantically. Being able to crop a photo is necessary in tha scenario.
@flyfelix333
@flyfelix333 4 месяца назад
So, i am also posting here, what i have collected and published on Canonrumors in the last 24 hours about the R1 and the differences to the R3 from what we can see in the leaked photos: the coating is the same as on the one R1 picture we got from Canon, so this is the R1 (what a surprise) The Viewfinder is huge, so i am pretty sure we will get close to 10MP resolution AND the 2. generation of Eye-Control the multishoe has a lockable cap as far as i and others have spotted the R1 is far bigger than the R3, just look how small the 85mm f1.2 gets on it A metal bar for straps at the bottom (not seen at the R3, but aviable at many vertical grips and all the 1D-Series cameras) battery percentage on the top LCD is also new, not seen on the R3 Top Screen or any other, but aviably on the normal flippy screen The top button layout is the same as on the R3, plus a WB-Button On the top are also two new symbols near the M-Fn button and the LCD-light button in a blueish colour: according to Tony Northrup the gas-station-like Symbol is the FTP-Symbol which indicates a dedicated button for wireless transmission. The other one shows a crop-symbol which might be a sign for a integrated teleconverter the ON-OFF switch on the side, is for controling the vertical grip functions and was used on previous 1D-series Cameras, but is not built into the R3 the card slot seems just a little bigger than on the R3, and has a new locking mechanism the bottom shows an HDMI logo, so it features full HDMI a diopter control is also built into the viewfinder. I expected it, but just have it in here Also the mode-switch is the same as on the R3 and R5 SN shows a 31, so this is number 31 to be produced The registration-ID says DS126925, according to most of the people, it is not the same as on of the 3 (-22, -28, -04) we have seen in the rumored registrations overall is the camera bigger, but especially thicker than the R3, that also improves the ergnomics (it is possible to measure the dimensions, with the dimensions of the 85mm f1.2, but i won't do that 😉) the battery voltage is something over 10V - while the 1DX III and R3's LP-E19 Battery runs with 10.8V, the R1 runs with something like 13 or 15 point something Volts as far as i have spotted out of the pictures. So does this lead to a new battery? It would be no surprise to me.
@AdrianWilsonBridders1234
@AdrianWilsonBridders1234 4 месяца назад
Simon, love both my R3 and R5, they complement each other very well. The resolution of the R5 with my wildlife and wedding stuff and the R3 is great in low light for gloomy interiors and the the UK weather(!) and prints from it look great and the noise is more like film grain, and at times I love the “gritty” look to my images. Regarding the R1, it doesn’t look to me at least a worthy upgrade to what I work with and I’m looking at deals on another R3 and hey, it’s a brilliant camera, kind regards Adrian from a showery United Kindom.
@Mr09260
@Mr09260 4 месяца назад
Pass me my Z8 ..45 M Pixels off the Bat same as the Z9
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
What do you shoot?
@billmartin1010
@billmartin1010 4 месяца назад
If Nikon had Canon's level of AF, I would be a Nikon shooter by now. (And if Sony had Canon's level of telephoto glass, I would be shooting Sony.) All three brands have their trade-offs.
@OkwyUgonweze
@OkwyUgonweze 4 месяца назад
@@billmartin1010ypu need to shoot Z8 after the firmware 2.0. It's excellent moreso if you set it up properly.
@mannfuerdensommer
@mannfuerdensommer 4 месяца назад
Canon R1 will have the same megapixel and features like the Nikon Z 9, exactly 45 Megapixel. The focus group will be sports, action and wildlife professionals. Canon R 5 Mark II will have the same features like the Nikon Z 8. The focus group will be art, fashion and advertising professionals. Now take a closer look to the store prices in Europe: Canon R3 for 4.399 EURO, Canon R5 for 2.999 EURO, Nikon Z9 for 5.329 EURO, Nikon Z8 for 3.749 EURO. We expect the new cameras in the stores before the start of the Christmas Business. I think the weekend 8th - 9th November 2024 both cameras will be available in the european stores.
@GabrielScindian
@GabrielScindian 4 месяца назад
18 stops dr, 2:3 full sensor readout for video 6k clog 1-3
@TheEastbelfast
@TheEastbelfast 4 месяца назад
The Canon R1 is the R3 mk II
@WernerBirdNature
@WernerBirdNature 4 месяца назад
Hi Simon, with everything we learned so far about the R5ii and R1, I'm wondering more and more whether the R3 will be discontinued .. unless it comes next year with a global shutter. This latest update of the R1 getting 'only' 24 mpickles means the R1 and R3 have the very same hunting grounds. Unless of course the pricetag sets them beyond $2000 apart and the R1 would get multiple resolutions .. About those 24mp, I do get it would be enough for pro's who can use any of the heavy and price lenses beyond 10k$ and who are skilled to perfectly point the camera to the moving subject. However for example for birding on a slightly lower level, we want more mp's in order to avoid the wings being clipped by the framing when zooming in (if we can afford that) or to crop a lot because we can't afford the pricy glass ..
@matthewramsey2037
@matthewramsey2037 4 месяца назад
When Josh says 24 MP is enough unless heavy cropping or large prints, my experience says 24 is not enough for the more common situation of doing moderate cropping combined with moderate large printing.
@bojonsson2363
@bojonsson2363 4 месяца назад
I guess it depends of what quality you are happy with. If you are happy with lower quality then 24 Mp might be enough but if you have higher expectations and want the best you need better resolution.
@TooGood79
@TooGood79 4 месяца назад
I would much prefer the 30 MP mentioned earlier. I shoot R6mkii and mki sports and other types of photo. I order printed banners as well as print on my own Canon Pro1000 20/24mp’s look just fine on even my largest prints. I also shoot with multiple telephoto Lenses such as the RF 70-200, 100-300 and 100-500 and would prefer the speed and accuracy over the alleged 6 MP loss. With that being said, being that much of these features are so close to the R3, I would hope the price point is too!
@krane15
@krane15 4 месяца назад
Even that would have been pathetic. Now I'm 100% no longer interested.
@normansuchorzewski1026
@normansuchorzewski1026 4 месяца назад
24M Pickles is enough as said for fast action, to get the frame rate and let's be honest, true professionals use lenses the size of the Hubble Telescope that can almost see into the future. So they have no need to crop too much. The R5 Mk ii - is the one i'm waiting for.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
WeThe differences between pros and the rest of us is they don't look at $10,000 lenses as too expensive, but essential tools to get the job done. I've spoken to several sports photographers that swear by the 100-300, working noise free in the rain at 1/2000 shutter.
@billmartin1010
@billmartin1010 4 месяца назад
Have you looked at the cameras "true professionals" use? Medium-format high MP and high MP full frame cameras are the norm. Why? Because 24MP doesn't produce the kind of beauty a higher MP sensor can provide. 24MP is sufficient if you want to settle. Can you hang it on the wall? Probably. Would I? Not unless I was going for a low-res look. You can tell the difference.
@normansuchorzewski1026
@normansuchorzewski1026 4 месяца назад
@@billmartin1010 Not come across any wild life or sports photographers using medium format.
@paestopagoelinternet330
@paestopagoelinternet330 4 месяца назад
​@@billmartin1010 exactly. Canon needs put more MP if they want to be in the battle field.
@normansuchorzewski1026
@normansuchorzewski1026 4 месяца назад
@@paestopagoelinternet330 So how are they going to produce high frame rates for 100 MP + in a RAW format- without any buffering. A chip does not exist to process that much data at those speed, unless you know different and I look forward to you enlightening me.
@billmartin1010
@billmartin1010 4 месяца назад
24MP is certainly adequate if all you do is Instagram, Facebook, and a Squarespace website. The R1 spec is perhaps bridging the generational gap between the 1Dx series and the social media generation.
@Panda-ik4uk
@Panda-ik4uk 4 месяца назад
Great job. Thanks for keeping us updated.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
Our pleasure. R1 price coming out later too ;)
@RVNmedic
@RVNmedic 4 месяца назад
Good one Simon. Thanks and keep 'em coming. I use an R5 for wildlife and do a fair amount of cropping sometimes. Because of that I think the 45 MP helps but is not neccessary. Have a great weekend.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
Yep, we can expect more to come so pay attention, my friend
@user-longtingfan
@user-longtingfan 4 месяца назад
I occasionally do air shows. Actually, I am attending one coming Memorial Day. Air show has a lot of fast actions. The fast and accurate focusing of R1 certainly helps but sometimes the planes are so far away that needs heavy cropping to give a nice composition. 24MP would be a big disadvantage.
@skyscraperfan
@skyscraperfan 4 месяца назад
The the photo fair "Photopia" in Hamburg will start on October 10 this year and Canon always had a huge presence there and shows off its latest gear. So I am very confident that I can get the R1 in my hands then. 24 megapixels are perfect for my needs. The smaller the pixels get, the worse the dynamic range gets. I often shoot at low light in locations where tripods are not allowed. Those are surprisingly many. New York City does not even allow tripods in Bryant Park, which is a public park in the heart of the city. In Times Square tripods are not allowed either and not in any ob the observation decks of the city. So in the blue hour you use ISO 4000 and more and then imagine noise really matters. With my current camera ISO 4000 is the maximum that I can "repair" with modern denoising software. If the R1 really gives me one stop less noise, that means I could confidently use ISO 8000 or even more.
@pharo79
@pharo79 4 месяца назад
My 1st 5D was 12mpix and it absolutely did fine, even wedding shots 👍😊 (I Needed to frame the shot, so almost no cropping) Mark ii was so much better in speed and resolution and only😂 20mpix 😉 I sure can follow yoshua that 24mpix will be just fine 😊👍
@sirwolfix
@sirwolfix 4 месяца назад
I'm most of the time shooting wildlife with my Konica Minolta Dynax 5D, six Megapixels but still with the right lens great results.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
Having the right lens makes the world of difference. No matter how good the camera, without pairing to the right lens, might as well stay home.
@erossphelps
@erossphelps 4 месяца назад
One of the best full frame CCD's ever made. I had a 7D which bricked. I miss it dearly
@TheNewArtSchool
@TheNewArtSchool 4 месяца назад
Why not stick with our 5d mkii then?
@billmartin1010
@billmartin1010 4 месяца назад
Simon . . . please tell us the latest on the Sony a1ii.
@cjenkins79
@cjenkins79 4 месяца назад
Saying 24MP is a very elitist attitude. You’re basically saying “I’m a professional and I can perfectly frame all my shots so no one needs more because they should be good as me” 24mp makes using crop mode barely usable. Why have a crop mode at all? Because sometimes you don’t have the right lens. Creating a crop mode and then telling people the should be professionals and don’t need the crop mode doesn’t make much sense.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 месяца назад
You're taking this as an argument as an absolute. But there's no in between. I just provided a viewpoint from Joshua who is a professional wildlife a nature photographer who believes at 20 mp is enough. A lot of people agree with this some disagree. I'm looking for people to explain what they shoot and what they use and why so people can learn from different viewpoints.
@cjenkins79
@cjenkins79 4 месяца назад
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker apologies if not clear I was referring to the “working professionals” opinion that “pros just don’t need more than 24mp” if that’s what he need, good for him. But who is he to make a blanket statement about what everyone needs.
@Jay-sr8ge
@Jay-sr8ge 4 месяца назад
​@@OrdinaryFilmmakerTaking one wildlife photographer harping on how 24mp is enough doesn't mean anything. Many other established wildlife photographers think otherwise. You have to consider the type of wildlife as well. Jen Wegener shoots birds and he loves the high megapixel of the r5/z8
@cjenkins79
@cjenkins79 4 месяца назад
@@r2hildur you can’t that’s the point. If tou want a 24mp image and have a 24mp sensor the you have to frame it perfectly. If you use crop mode or crop later you are losing mp’s. So while most people agree a 24mp image is good enough for most cases your image has to be framed perfectly. Having more mp’s gives you a lot more flexibility. The R1 is the flagship. Sony has a 24mp A9 for sports. But it’s not the flagship and the only reason it’s 24mp is because it’s a global shutter. So the R1 may or may not be better than the A9 depending on your use case. But for a do it all flagship this won’t be close to the Sony A1 50mp camera that is an around great camera. Put it this way if you do sports/wildlife Sony want you get their flagship R1 and for everything else they want you to get the R3/R5. For Sony you could just get the A1 and it will do everything. Which is what a flagship should do.
@lgm9324
@lgm9324 4 месяца назад
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker Agree. The Canon EOS 1D/1Ds/1Dx/ Nikon D- series sat between 16-24mp and are quite popular among sports and wildlife photographers. Are they cropping in? Definitely.
@markysng
@markysng 4 месяца назад
I feel that so many people in the comments just don't understand the purpose of the R1 and are hence getting unnecessarily upset about the 24MP. From what I know the R1 is targeted at replacing the 1DX and becoming the workhorse of sports photographers. Doesn't mean you can't use it effectively for other stuff like wildlife, but you have to know who are the target users to understand why it was made that way. And it is clearly evident from its AF that is able to track athletes who are momentarily obscured when competing. There were even talks of it making its debut at the Paris 2024 Olympics. These sport photographers and their respective media team work on a tight deadline, shooting, transferring, filtering, slight editing and uploading within an hour or so for live updates. High MP is an absolute obstacle when it comes to this. When I did events like this, the media desk at times didn't want me to send in the RAW files, and just send in the high quality JPGs. Its all about speed. Besides there has rarely ever been a camera that can do it all, and thats a stupid business model as it would pretty much render all the other professional level camera models obsolete. Seriously, know what the camera is built for before y'all start complaining about its specs.
@TheBigBlueMarble
@TheBigBlueMarble 2 месяца назад
Many people seem to think that digital photography/videograpy technology will continue to increase available resolution. In the meantime, the human eye is not changing and 24MP is plenty for 90% of all photographic uses. The more experienced and/or talented photographers seldom need to crop for composition, but they will crop for magnification because it is not always possible to have the perfect lens for the situation.
@IanFleming808
@IanFleming808 4 месяца назад
So I can buy a Nikon Z9 in 2024 and still be a decade ahead of any Canon owner????
@ABullet520
@ABullet520 4 месяца назад
24mp is fine and more than enough for most. Landscape and architecture benefit from more, but sports and wildlife can easily get by with 24 (most of the time). The issue is lenses, most (non-pro) people can't afford the big telephoto lenses so they run smaller affordable ones and crop. These people can take an R5 with a 150-600, crop images and still get great images without purchasing 600/800 primes. I would imagine the R3 will disappear entirely and that it was only a stop gap until the R1 was delivered. The R3.2 I think might become their higher mp camera in a complete redesign, think Fuji/Hasselblad. The R3 just no longer has a place in the Canon lineup after the R8 and the R1 release. I expect big discounts on the R3 to reduce inventory before the R1 ships.
@t_mcb_1342
@t_mcb_1342 4 месяца назад
i shot museum, school, hot air balloon, group camping and concert events with two 20MP 6D canon cameras with F2.8 24-70mm, and 70-200mm zoom lenses and have no complaints from my clients. When the events are at night, I also use F1.4 prime lenses, 24mm, 35mm, and F1.8, 135mm prime (sometimes 85mm F1.8). Some of the museum events are in small rooms lit with only one to 6 candles. Almost all shots are hand held and flash is very rarely used. I specialize in the dark, the dank, and the dusty and 20MP seem to be fine.
@bojonsson2363
@bojonsson2363 4 месяца назад
That is alright but what would be the point for you to upgrade? If Canon wants to sell the new cameras they have to offer improved image quality. If the competition offers 45 - 60 Mp then those who want to upgrade will consider changing brand.
@TheChadWork2001
@TheChadWork2001 4 месяца назад
November is a long time away…
@vaskoobscura_
@vaskoobscura_ 4 месяца назад
I bet if the R1 is 24mp a ton of people will be switching to another camera brand. I shoot with an R5, mostly weddings and portraits. The extra resolution obviously is great for cropping but it's also great for editing. You can really get in there and edit the fine details. . . But truth be told I've already invested in the GFX 100S and once you start editing people with in a 100 megapixel image it's hard to even go back to the R5's 45mp.
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