NOTE: I am getting tons of comments about the card issue being just user error. Could be, but it makes no sense. The card I used with the R8 was a Lexar V60 card, and according to the R8 specs sheet, a V30 card should be enough for any of the R8 video features. The same card that I used with the R8 has worked perfectly on the Canon R6 and the R6ii without any issues ever, as well as with the Sony FX3, a7iii and the a7iv. I've used the card on several different occasions after making this video, and after getting several comments I tested the card on several different cameras. The only camera that ever gave me any issues has been the R8, even while shooting in way higher bitrates on the other cameras.
So essentially this video, by its title, is clickbait. I'm sure you're an informed photographer/videographer. All of the camera's "shortcomings" are clearly advertised. You knew upon purchasing it that it had no joystick, no dial, and used the LP-e17 battery. Why would you have professional expectations of it in the first place?
Gotta be honest, you are completely right. I did know about the shortcomings but I thought they wouldn’t matter quite as much as they ended up doing. But yeah, i’m guilty of pushing a bit of clickbait to some titles/thumbnails
@@FyahAlex nah mate there’s no way around it. It is what it is and i know i’m guilty so why try to hide it 😂 the reason behind it is, i’m a small creator pushing hours and hours in to this channel and not getting back anything, so i’m just trying to do anything to grow the channel to a point where it actually starts to give something back to me for the hard work
I bought the Canon R8 three weeks ago, I used to shoot with cameras like Sony a7III and Canon R6 until I decided to stop doing paid commission. I spent an year watching and reading reviews about the R8 to understand if could be the right camera for me. Since I moved back on be just a casual shooter I'm so very happy with my purchase, it covers all the type of photography i do ( pet, macro, portraits and some street). Beautiful Canon colors science, great AF and love the small body.
One thing that should be taken in consideration is the extension grip that canon sells separately. It improves so much that feels another camera in your hands. It also replace de “cheap” battery door for something much nicer. I think it’s really worth it the price.
Thank you for watching 😊 It's a great camera if the limitations don't get in your way. P.S. Didn't see this comment before, didn't get a notification 🤔
I wished they made cameras again without all these video features. We're now in an age of affordable fullframe mirrorless cameras and still people seem to look for teh video properties first in these cameras. I guess the photographers are in a minority in this age of tiktok. Together with the Sony A7C this is probably the most convenient camera for traveling and taking actual photographs.
Yup, most people do want to be able to shoot some video too for tiktok or instagram or any of the other platforms. A photo-only camera probably wouldn’t sell too well The size of the R8 considered, it’s fantastic for traveling.
If you used a good quality V90 sd card, ProGrade,Sony, SanDisk you would not get these errors and it doesn’t take that long to finalise recording, this is a dead give away you are using an inferior or fake sd card.
I get your point, but even a V30 should be enough for the bitrates of the R8. I'm using high-quality Lexar cards, that have never ever had any issues before or after using them with the R8. Also the way the buffer indicator worked in the R8 is a dead giveaway that there's something odd going on with the camera
I you are serious about filming long content the R8 is not the camera for you anyway. I have the R8 alongside my R62 and for general use(photography) I actually enjoy the R8 more than the R62. Size and weight matters. Even if the R62 is a "pro" body and the R8 is not. For video I mainly use the R62 since it has more buttons and its easier to customize. Never had any card issues.
Yup, very much true. I do still prefer a slightly larger camera body even for photography, but that's purely personal preference and I absolutely get it that people prefer a smaller body
For own person use like going out and take some pics is this camera enough? I need bokeh and normal pics . Which lens to be taken with?... Will you recommend this camera or something else?
@arunkumar-xc3ms thank you for watching! The battery life isn’t great but for personal use and only taking photos, i think it will be fine if you have the power saving settings on 😊
OK, I can see that this model has limitations. Cameras at this price point will have some things that aren't perfect. Maybe a camera twice as much or more could satisfy your needs. BTW while talking about features, I have a R50. Can I hook up wireless mic system to it to capture all of the audio coming off a mixing board without having to go through an adapter?
@@dalemettee1147 yes, you are absolutely correct. I have an R6ii which is perfect for me right now. I am sorry but I am not sure. I would think if the R50 takes a mic (receiver) and the mixing board has a mic output to the transmitter, then it should work
Great Video! New to your channel and like your content. I am seriously thinking of buying the r8 as i am 98% a photographer. I will be upgrading from a canon 80d that has served me well over the years. I was wondering to you think this camera would have a problem with off camera flash more specifically hss? Do you thing the X2 trigger would work? Thanks again and keep up the good content ✌️📸
Thanks a lot dude! Really appreciate the feedback ✌️ i’m sorry but i don’t have any experience with off-camera flash on the R8, so i can’t really help you out here
Upgraded from 60d after 10 years. to R8 not to happy. R8 is almost useless for wildlife and birding even the landscape photos are no better than the 60
The Canon EOS R8 is not the camera for me, but it might be the right one for you. If you have any questions about it, feel free to ask me and I'll do my best to help you out ✌
It's a perfect camera for filmmaking in an indoor, controlled environment. Use a tripod, slider, gimbal, vintage manual lens, dummy battery and you have an affordable full frame cinema studio.
Thanks a lot 😊 i’ve been doing videos for several years and professionally full-time for about four years now. RU-vid is just a hobby on the side of my day-time job
I think it may just be time to upgrade with that feature set! I’m still on a Canon 700D for the studio and Canon EOS M for b-roll. I think running my YT channel on 10+ year old gear is getting a tad ridiculous even if it can shoot RAW 😂
I mean if you’ve got the skills, you can do a lot with that gear too 😂 but for sure there’s a lot more in the newer cameras and full frame is the bomb too
Oh yeah, it’s pretty cool what can be done with those cameras, for sure! Upgrading is definitely not urgent, I could still push that gear even more. Maybe I do my usual thing and buy it once its successor model comes out. I was waiting for a Canon full frame with that form factor. Got a ton of FF glass because I’m a photographer by profession (I use old film cameras mostly.)
@@kaspergaram and lots of people dumping their kit for the latest and greatest too, because GAS is an ugly beast. Not that it will make a difference for them to upgrade, frankly. If you go from an EOS M original to something like the R8 that’s night and day in usability I bet and what more could you possibly want in terms of image quality and autofocus? Upgrading from R8 to whatever comes after won’t even make an appreciable difference at this point - we’re reaching the point of diminishing returns with all this video stuff which is one reason why I’m thinking of finally getting another digital again. Seemed pointless to waste my money on all this half baked stuff that kept overheating despite the big bodies. The R8 seems like the sweet spot for my needs, especially as a studio cam.
@@LillySchwartz exactly. I mean, I love gear. Absolutely love it. But I know I could create the exact same stuff I create today with a 6D Mark I. By many standards it’s old technology, but for web content and even big prints, it’s plenty.
That is quite a hot take of yours. You can not trust the camera, while everything hints to a corrupted or faulty (dying) memory card? Really? Are you serious?
Perhaps you need to format the card in your camera. Also, please let us know what type of card you are using. Did you try multiple cards of the same type? Nobody has had any issues with b-rolls on the R8, so if you provide us with precise details about your problem, we can assist you.
I’m mainly using a Lexar V60 card. Plenty of speed for the R8. The card is formatted in-camera. Same issues with IPB and IPB Light. No issues ever with the cards on any other cameras that i’ve tried, even with much higher bitrates. Even after trying the R8. I can’t reproduce the issue with any other camera. The R8 manual says that the indicator I get before it stops recording is a buffer indicator that should slowly fill up. For me, it just quickly shows up before stopping recording. That’s behavior that shouldn’t happen either
Ah so you have the R6 & R8? I've been looking for a comparison. How is the AF on each? I had the Canon R and returned it, it was much slower AF vs my M6 II so I just kept that.
The AF on both cameras is just superb. The R8 has more options in terms of subject detection, subject-only AF for videos, you can choose which eye to focus on and so on. But in terms of how good the AF is, they’re both fantastic. I can’t say anything bad about the R6 AF even though it should be better in the R8. In real-world use, they’re both so damn good it comes more down to the lens
The problem might be the memory card and buffering, I just read another report and it was solved by using a card using V90 and not V60. As for battery life , this is only really a problem when using it as a video camera, and then most would be using an external power source anyway, I have always been a canon DSLR user currently 5D mk4 and an 80D , When Sony brought out the A 7R range I bought the mk2 , and it used the small batteries as well, keeping the size and weight down, but only got half the number of exposures, A simple battery grip solved that problem instantly, but never found it a real problem, That however was with stills. Using video I would never rely on any in camera battery, There are different options available so again not really a problem. I have the R8 but so new havent yet used it as a video camera , so overheating I cannot comment. The small battery is what keeps the camera small. Sony thought when they brought out the mk 3 version of the A7R range did increase the battery size, with only a small increase in size /weight. For me having used the 5D mk 4 for so long this R8 is a godsend with the new 100-400 lens its half the weight of the 5D mk4 with the 100-400mk2 L lens, quality is imperceptible in video , only large prints might notice a slight difference. The price difference is a huge difference also the R8 half the price of the 5D mk 4 with 100-400 mm lenses and half the weight.. Horses for courses, At its price point the R8 is a fantastic camera for stills and Video. There are other canon cameras with the features missing but they come at a price !
Thanks for the long comment. You really put some effort in there! 👌 just gonna touch on a few points. First of all, the memory card thing. I’ve also read about people having good success with V30 cards but failing on V90. It seems like for some reason the R8 can’t take full advantage of the speed on Lexar cards (which are the ones I always use) but they can take the full speed off from SanDisk cards. This would explain why a SanDisk V30 works but a Lexar V90 doesn’t, but it raises new questipns about how/why it is like this. As for the battery, the way i see it is with small cameras like these, the whole point of the camera is that it is small. So adding an external power source or a battery grip kind of defeats that purpose. Think about a barebones R8 vs an R8 with a cage and a V-mount battery as an external battery. Sure, it fixes the battery life issues, but it’s no longer the same small camera
@@kaspergaram to pile on here, I have not had the issue you describe using prograde and SanDisk cards and was able to use v30, v60 with no problem. I do see there was a firmware update since you commented this, but I do not have lexar cards to test. So perhaps you were correct in it being a firmware issue, but I have my doubts. That said, if you have 1500 to drop on a camera with 1 sd slot it does seem silly to use "cheap" sd cards like a v30 lexar. 1500 is certainly entry level and not a professional camera by any means, but it also isn't a small amount. Plus I don't know if I would feel comfortable with a 20 dollar lexar card, even from a personal travel standpoint, being the only thing standing between a lost day of photographs. Even in your equipment list, you list the v90 lexar as your memory card, yet further down in the comments you state you were using a v30. It also is a bit disappointing to have to come to the comments to find out that it was not a camera issue, but specific to the brand of SD card you were using. A brand that is fairly famous for it's issues, not just with canon. For how harsh you are in the video with it not being reliable you may want to add some info that you have since found it to be specific to that brand. Or retest with other brands to see if it is specific to your r8. Either way you got me with the clickbait title, but I don't think you'll get me for another one.
@@lenscraftedlife Thanks a lot for your comment! So it seems like the issue isn't in the card speeds. And Lexar definitely is not a "cheap" brand, even though in price they are cheaper than r.g. SanDisk. The Lexar cards that I use have worked way better for me than SanDisk, even though I've used the more expensive SanDisk models too. The Lexars I use have also never been the cheapest ones, but the slowest cards I've ever used from Lexar have been their slowest V60 cards, but I've also used their V90's. I never said I was using a V30 card in any of the comments, I only said that even a V30 should be enough. I've never even owned one, but according to every spec sheet out there, a V30 should be enough for the R8. As for my gear list, I've recently gotten new cards which are the V90's. Upgraded them at the same time I upgraded from the R6i to the R6ii 😊 All of this being said, during my 15 years of photography, Lexar has never once failed me, and I've never heard of any bad experiences ever before your comment. SanDisk on the other hand has failed me several times, and I'm never getting a SanDisk again. If it's a Lexar brand problem, then why have I not been able to reproduce the same issue with the same exact hard I used in this video with the R6, R6ii and three different Sony cameras that I've tested on? The only camera that fails with the same exact card has been the R8
@@lenscraftedlife to add to my previous comment, I added a new pinned comment to my video, as you stated out I should. Thanks for pointing that out 😊 Also, I don't see the clickbait in my title - it's very straight forward and very basic
@@kaspergaram I apologize then if I am incorrect about using the v30, you did say it should just work not that you were using it. Lexar is the cheaper brand, and it is for a reason. As other theorized it may indeed be heat related, and that their heat spreader is the issue. I have had directly the opposite experience as you, Lexar has not been a winning brand for me. But I stand by that for such an obvious and crippling issue, simply saying the card works in other cameras isn't enough even from a basic troubleshooting standpoint. It would be different if everyone, or even a large percentage, were having the same issue you are having. If I had your issue, the first thing I would do is try a different SD card, and then I'd be getting a hold of canon if it was replicated.
I’ve never had it happen with any other card in any other camera. The same card I used in the R8 has worked 100% perfeclty always on every other setup i’ve tried, in every frame rate and resolution. And the issue on the R8 happens after the first minute of shooting too. If the issue is with the heat, then I’d guess there’s some issue with the memory card reader in the camera getting too hot. Not sure what it is, but it sucks. Thanks for the input! ✌️
@@henakos that could be the issue, but then it’s an issue by design. It’s a fast Lexar UHS-II card. Can’t remember the model and can’t check right now, but it’s plenty fast for the IPB compression in the R8
Hello sir. I am an hobbiest and interested in good quality of images and videos. I have limited budget. In india currently canon R8 is available at Rs. 1lakh and sony a7 iii is available for 1.21 lakh. Which do uou think would be best buy for me? And why ?
Both will produce excellent results. For sony, you have more cheap lens choices, but I have never personally liked the ergonomics of Sony cameras. Both will be good options. If you can find a used R6, that could be a better choice
People still don't understand tha Canon make (great) photocameras with some basic video feature. Canon sells profesionals video camera for differents target they don't want overlaps the market. The R8 is a very nice amateur and chrap photocamera that can do some basic video footage if is really needed, but have zero pro video feature. The issues is not the camera but the buyers expectations. 🤷🏿♀️
very small bettry in 1.50 lakh camra. this reson canon go went gone in indian market. 80% sony cover indian market,canon camra makker very stupid people dont judge professionl camra man neends. bettry main part in professionl film making. but canon provide toy bettry , sony provide 1800-2000 mha bettry in 30 thousand viloging camra. my many expetaion before r8 lunch bt after lunch wht is rubbiss, if u want this camra carry with 5-6 bettry.
@@lith8128 yes. That’s the CIPA rating announced by Canon. You can find them on Canon’s website. But it’s pretty much always higher in real world and depend on many different factors
Camera work fine doing indoor photos my second day of using it I went birding by the ocean the electronic viewfinder is terrible about a third of the photos focused fine on the ocean but the birds are blurry. After 100 photos the battery went dead tonight I'm taking note of all the hacks to improve battery life and the focusing system the viewfinder I figured going from a DSLR to a mirrorless camera what's going to take time to get used to but it's almost impossible to see small objects like a bird at a distance
Yeah that depends a lot on the viewfinder too. Some mirrorless cameras have much worse viewfinders than others. As for the focusing, which lens did you have? That sounds like an odd issue and i think it could be about a lens that doesn’t work well with backlight or something like that, but i might be wrong too
Hahah i know right 😂👌 you are 100% correct there. But we have to acknowledge the world we live in and the technology we have available and use that as our reference. It makes no sense to compare a modern device to a 50-year-old one, because the world just isn’t the same anymore. But yeah, you definitely have a point there and i completely agree
For me it would be the R8. I have used the a7 a lot but I never liked to use it at all. I don’t have any experience of the Nikon. So that’s why the Canon
3rd wheel : you have it on the lens ; Batterie life: you have possibility to power with PD (USBC with big bank will be fine), or to use dummy batterie (inside...), or use the batterie grip of the RP that double the duratuion ! You can also disable Wifi that will extend batterie life.
Thank you so much for this excellent review. It's a no-go for me. At this point only the C70 makes sense for my next purchase. Canon truly needs to stop half stepping. If it wasn't for the horrible venue od Sony, I would've switched already. I'm truly considering going over to Sony.
@kaspergaram Exactly, is it that they can't, or they just won't? They're are better options out there, one just had to be willing to invest. I just might.
If you’re used to Canon and have the lenses, I wouldn’t necessarily switch to Sony. If you do want to switch, I’d say go for the FX3 if you simply can afford it. As for the two you are thinking about, the FX30 is definitely more of a video camera, but then again it’s not great for photos if you also need to take them.
I would say you could simply try another card. I did a lot of b-roll recording in 60p and it was ok. Couple of times close to overheating, but no issues with the card.
It’s not the card. Same card works perfectly in other cameras and other modes, and also in the R8 while shooting long continuous 4k50 takes. But I’m glad to hear you don’t have issues. Makes me more positive about the fact that it’s a firmware thing
The fact that this particular card doesn’t work on your copy of R8 but works on other camera doesn’t mean R8 is to blame. You should check the list of compatible cards. Some cards are not fully supported.
@@kaspergaram I have a Lexar 256GB V60 SD Card and the R8 doesn't like it in video mode where recordings fail in the same manner which you describe. I now use that card in a Canon 5D MkIV where it works fine. Meanwhile a 256GB SanDisk Pro Extreme V30 card works fine in the R8.
Dude if you really used R8 for one month, why didnt you just get a new sdxc card? Probably you got a dud, a slow ass one, or a fake one. I bought cheapish UHS-II card Prodigital V60 and shoot HDR PQ 10bit 4k for half an hour under scortching hot Thailand sun, no issue writing card, no overheating. Cant believe you blame the camera not your dud card.😂
Dude. I have been using this card for a few years on multiple different cameras. It’s not fake. It’s not faulty. It works perfectly on every other camera i’ve ever tried it on. And with the R8 it works perfectly when filming 4K50 for a single long take. No issues there. The only issues are with short clips
@@kaspergaramit doesn't matter how well that card performed in other cameras. The point is I am sure you know you are making a false claim it is a firmware issue or camera issue. You know it is the card but you want to make a big deal in the video. I mean this is the easiest issue to be eliminated by purchasing another SD card less than $50. Even if you buy the same brand card maybe different batch wouldn't have this issue. It is mostly certainly not a widespread issue or firmware issue as you stated.
@@frankluo230 how come it doesn’t matter? It obviously proves that the card is fine. I can 100% guarantee that the card has no issues and has never had. But I do state in the video that I don’t know what the issue is about and I’m only guessing it’s a firmware issue. All i know is, that my card is fine. No doubt about that
@@kaspergaram Seriously if you have more than 2 cards having the same issue then your claim might become remotely more convincing. One isolated card issue to draw the conclusion on camera body is naive. If there is an issue, at least your audience or Canon themselves should be able to repeat it.
I completely get your point. I really do. But as we all know, firmware issues also exist especially with the first iterations of any firmware out there. Also, faulty equipment exist too. If it was a new card, I'd definitely straight away think that it's the cards fault. No question about that. But through testin with the card, I can tell that my memory card is fine. And that is all I can say at this time. Maybe I got a faulty unit of the R8, maybe it was a firmware issue, maybe I somehow ended up scratching the memory card reader. I don't know. But I do know that the card I am using is not faulty. Why I think it is a firmware issue is this: it was a very specific issue only happening with short bursts of 4K50. Long takes had no issues. The buffer of the camera doesn't get any bigger or faster with a longer clip compared to a bunch of shorter clips. The card also stays the exact same. If the card and the camera are fine for continuous 4K50, they should be fine for several short clips too. The only reasonable explanation I can come up with for this is a firmware issue. If it was something else, I'd think the issue would also be there for long takes of 4K50. Also, the Canon R8 manual talks about the buffer indicator slowly filling up to show that the card is too slow, showing the amount of buffer space left until the camera will stop recording. This icon only briefly showed up for my copy of the R8. It never reached "full", and it never actually showed up to show that the buffer is starting to fill up. This is behavior is not how the camera should work like according to the manual of the camera
@@kaspergaram i have the same camera i have done some short recording and haven’t seen anything but that was 4k60 didn’t get a meter at all but taking pictures in the sun i did see the indicator pop up on my camera so i really hope they send a firmware to fix the camera overheating issues
Thank you for the extensive video! One thing: Does the R8 have exposure compensation in M mode? It’s nice when I’m shooting birds in M mode because I want to choose a fixed aperture and a fixed shutter speed but leaving the ISO on Auto. Because the camera does underexpose sky shots I want to dial in +1 EV. This is not possible on the RP but was on the EOS R (and 7D Mark II and 5D Mark III, which I owned).
Hmmm, that’s a good question and something I never tested out. I don’t actually have the camera anymore so I can’t test it anymore. Most Canon cameras do have that, but I am not sure about the R8
UHS-II V60. Should be no issues as the bitrate maxes out at ~42MB/s and the card has a write speed of 120MB/s, tested to be at around 100MB/s in real-world. No issues ever on this card on any other camera or even on my slower card on any other camera, even at way higher bitrates
@@kaspergaramYeah, should work. I don't have a V60 to see if I encounter the same issue. I only have a V90 and a couple of UHC cards, so I can't test the same scenario on my R8. Did you happen to see if it make a difference on the light IPB?
If it had a bigger battery and two memory slots, the camera would sell like hotcakes (even if it costs a bit more), but Canon is known for its cripple hammer.
Most of the consumer segment targeted by this model don't mind the battery size and don't care about dual memory card slots. Lower price and light weight are more important.
