Cantilever Brakes 3 Times Stronger? If You Need More Braking Power, Adjust & Fix Three Issues!

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The old type cantilever brakes DON'T HAVE to be weak. Check and fix 3 issues with your brakes.
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@fthat8260 4 года назад

Dafuq is that background music?

@carlos8368 2 года назад

Thank you so much, I recently modified an old MTB (1992) to gravel and was about to give up when I saw your video. Those tips made my break revive.

@tecdesigns8183 4 года назад

Stx rc brings back memories of my old bikes still have the rear mech working fine after many many years. Great vid some great tips

@peterjv8748 4 года назад

This is completely wrong geometry. Not only of the cantiliver arms but the yoke. Arms should be parallel against rim at contact and yoke should be at a 90 degree angle at contact. It should make a perfect house shape. Ironically these brakes were set up much closer to proper before he "fixed" them.

@kitmichas6985 2 года назад

sometimes we get stuck on what things "should be" instead of what they can be. Doing things the same way never leaves room for innovation or improvement.

@peterjv8748 2 года назад

@@kitmichas6985 There's also the platitude that if it ain't broke...

@romanmentor9238 Год назад

The trickiest part is to adjust canti brake pads,to hold pads and both imstruments at the same time

@medawc519 3 года назад

This tutorial is just bad. Check the ones from Parktool if you want it done properly. By the way: 13:13 - brake pad set with toe-out... 13:18 - stradle housing not in contact with brake arm... 13:26 - all other things being equal if the brake lever feels less spongy it means you've actually REDUCED the mechanical advantage and the power of the brake. I hate when someone shows just bad practice, justifies that with faulty logic and makes a "tutorial" out of it.

@tintinlavigne5257 4 года назад

Polishing the axe's is perhaps a good solution at Short terms but to be durable the lubricant need to seat in the little porosties of the metal to act as a chimical bearing. If you polish your metal is to slick and the lubricant will go away faster and the results will be metal on metal 😱 I'm interested on your experience with it if you can make a feed back a bit later? Your adjustment and working process are very very good 👌👍 Thank you

@HansensUniverseT-A 4 года назад

You're overthinking it.

@tedomir8388 3 года назад

unfortunately, the adjusting at the end is wrong, thats why they look awkward

@DanielNunez-ur9dm Год назад

There's only so much about these kind of brakes you can show on a short video. There's a lot of good here but some things left out too. Like he really waxed over the hardest part of aligning the pads with the side of the rim. Especially with older cantis- you have to sometimes spend a lot of time going back and forth with the hardware to get the geometry right so: there is enough power, and that the braking surface is mated to stop pad squealing. Often the old metal has indented metal markings that make the washer stack have "memory" and will drift out of alignment while you work.

@roncooke2188 2 года назад

The Crap music spoiled an amazing video interesting

@sirkdopsah1081 3 года назад

I prefer canti over v- brakes all day. Easier to maintain, adjust, and in my opinion more braking force.

@B506Basstards 3 года назад

this was exactly what i needed, very helpful info. thank you a lot!

@no_russian8363 4 года назад

Man the video is great, but the music is horrendous.

@spacetraveler834 4 года назад

You are not only an excellent mechanic but also a bike historian as well!!

@markifi 4 года назад

horrendous "music"

@romanmentor9238 Год назад

On my bike from 2000s I had a hybrid between canti s and v brakes.The brake pad adjustment was like in this video but there was a single linear pull cable with noodles like modern V brakes

@richietattersall2122 3 года назад

That music needs to go!!!

@Mar-ml3sr 2 года назад

Hi, I have similar brakes in a gravel bike but they are very noisy. Do you have any suggestion to reduce the noise? Thanks

@funtalkman 2 года назад

Need to clean the wheel rim and brake pad, foreign particles between brake pad & wheel rim creating noise, watchout tiny metallic particles/object on brake pad, some wearout brake pad will show metallic part & time to change new brake pad.

@lihtan 2 года назад

You need to set the toe-in, so that the front of the pad contacts the rim first. What I do, is I pinch a dime between the rear of the pad and the rim when I'm setting up the pad positioning.

@lihtan 2 года назад

Usually if you want better braking power, swapping over to V-brakes is the way to go. I've even done fork swaps in order to get disk brakes on a bike. I did have an old MTB that I was trying to keep the retro charm of it's original cantis. What I did was install a set of Kool Stop salmon all weather brake pads, then I swapped out the brake levers for a nice set of Deore XT levers that had ServoWave on them. I found it had substantially better power and modulation when I was done.

@021mr5 Год назад

You need a longer straddle cable. Angles are way off in that straddle cable, use a Letter B or C if you're going to adjust the brake pad that far out. No mechanical advantage, also there's no toe in on the pads.

@noredcr 3 года назад

music make this unwatchable....

@michaelg2607 2 года назад

You know what? I liked the music.

@manuelluis5456 4 года назад

'La musica' isn't our scope ! Skip it , please !

@mendebil 3 года назад

Is it not rubbing while you coast?.... And the cable isn't bent it is off center. These macro shots can be really unforgiving man

@groovy_bear 4 года назад

That music selection was funny :D... but I must say I kind of liked it !

@pinesparrow 3 года назад

14:09 it is awesome

@NotALizardPerson81 Год назад

Polishing metal surfaces that mate actually increases friction.

@chadkline4268 Год назад

Because of increased matching surface area? Yeah, probably true 🙂

@NotALizardPerson81 Год назад

@Ralph Reilly do an experiment. Take two steel pipes. Polish one to a mirror finish and leave the other one raw. The raw one will slide through your hand very easily. The polished one will actually feel sticky. Metal is porous, when you polish it you close those pores. See the response before yours. This is also why a polished pipe won't rust anywhere near as fast or why metal starts rusting with little specks.

@trickystitch 4 года назад

V-Brakes were more powerful than cantis because of two design reasons. The first was that the cable was straight pull from the lever. This is were most of the power gain was from. Increasing the angle of your canti bridge mathematically reduces your pulling power. Clearance was the main benefit of this setup. Never liked running them that way personally.

@Redcloud1867 4 года назад

I thought the brake arms needed to be parallel with the rim also? Well shot video by the way Very clear

@peterjv8748 4 года назад

Yes. I come to these videos to read the comments and see what all he gets wrong.

@romanmentor9238 4 месяца назад

One part of the brake pad is not worn till the end,on the other part metal can be seen.Would you suggest to replace brake pad immediately or to wait till both parts are worn

@LTPottenger 4 года назад

So many great videos, you are the best bike guy on yt!

@byordercommunication5477 3 года назад

Deore lx between stx rc

@frannelk 4 года назад

Hi Brother, that at 4:24 is a C.Virus killer 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Still living in Poland? I used to live there and I used to watch your vids a lot but YT algorithm stop suggesting your vids. Now greetings from Spain, this a great place for biking at any level.

@VAMIRACING 3 года назад

terrific tutorial! what is your recommendation for the cables, the thick 2.0 mm ones as used in the past or would you simply take the 1.6 offered by shimano these days?

@diegoam3957 2 года назад

This is a great video to know what to consider when adjusting the brakes. But somehow you don't take your own advise as there are several failures on the result. Either way, thanks for showing.

@brettneuberger6466 4 года назад

Funny, after all these years I just started working on my beloved 95 ParkPre 825pro when this video popped up. Exactly what I need to know how to restore its old Critical Racing breaks.

@jamesppeto 6 месяцев назад

STX RC 🤘🏼👌🏼

@glen3509 4 месяца назад

The first component group I started with was STX-RC in 1999🤘🤘

@HansensUniverseT-A 4 года назад

Love my trusty canti lever brakes, they're alright to set up and they will perform just fine.

@francislematt7079 3 года назад

My Trek 970 has canti and they work well in dry condition that they lock wheels almost like V brakes. However even the slightest drizzle make them very ineffective and also get noisy. The rims get black from worn rim/pads mixed with road salt and dirt. What are the best canti pads in the often rainy climate and keep the rims from excessive wear? For just for commuting and occasional dirt rides?

@soundbites1152 3 года назад

Kool-Stop dual or triple compound pads.

@ofthelord1020 3 года назад

On my regular calipers i use swiss stop and they improved braking immensely over cheap standard ones.

@Towert7 3 года назад

ghetto music was bad

@l7ete 4 года назад

Was interested but had to stop because the music is terrible

@linkwithamastersword4062 2 года назад

Lol I have very similar brakes on my 60s 70s swing continental this was helpful

@bagussaputro170 3 года назад

Can we use Canti system for Gravel Bike?

@solo4158 2 года назад

Bad music for sure :'(

@markifi 4 года назад

that bike looks fucking fantastic

@roncooke2188 2 года назад

Where on earth did you get that music

@georgetreduen4502 4 года назад

take a look at Trails crazy power

@etienneboucher9510 4 года назад

Good video. Just at the last step your pads are not 100% parallele and I my-self never managed to get it. So I just straight replace these shits by V brakes with GUIMBLING pads 👌

@glennoc8585 4 года назад

Ive still got a set of xt canti brakes. the problem was the brake pads needed critical alignment otherwise sidewalls get worn through. I saw so many expensive tyres ruined fast by poor adjustment.

@colincampbell4261 4 года назад

You missed one of the most important factors of setting up canti brakes. The actual brake pad adjustment to make better cable angle was not done.

@CudderMC Год назад

smoothest guy out there

@saidimon 4 года назад

Omg!!! My Scott Summit Special Edition from 1999 is very similar to this yellow one! By the way, thanks for your tip! I will try to improve the brakes from my old one ^^

@bigbadstretch13yrago 3 года назад

You should be a hand model Danny. You are really are good at showing things with your hands!! Maybe tv shopping network is your true calling?? 😃😂😭

@andrescen7577 2 года назад

I replaced my innertube and hooked up the brakes and now my rear cable is stuck in the housing and will not move. The cable is slack. How do I fix this so that I can adjust the brakes?

@blizzbee 3 года назад

SickBiker just demonstrated how to pasteurize the brake system on the bike !!! 👍⚡

@jorenhipolito8850 4 года назад

Nostalgic brakes.

@telemachin 3 года назад

Nope, switching to cantilever will help you if you want to install drop bars on this kind of frame.

@peruvian05152 3 года назад

Sure they are powerful, you can see and hear the pad rubbing on the rim before the lever is actuated. You need to change the fore/aft angle on the pads.

@przemokbh8079 3 года назад

Hej. How you called this part for contibreaks you install to headset system. This one you use foe wire in front. Thx for answer

@michaelbyers8931 4 года назад

Knipex is very good tools!

@nunyabiznes5489 3 года назад

The music is a cringefest

@roncooke2188 2 года назад

music got better

@gregknipe8772 4 года назад

great production. lots of good canti bikes out there, unused but great rides.

@968transaxle6 4 года назад

I spent hours adjusting these Cantis on my 94 GT restoration project last week. Now I know what I could have done better. Even if I was finally quite happy with my break performance, I will do some more rework and check out how much it can still be improved. Thx for the good video.

@stevelee541 4 года назад

Why the crap music????,

@stevelee541 4 года назад

Was enjoying video! But when the music came on had to switch off!!!

@bcharasarkis3164 4 года назад

Hello thank you for the video can u tell us what tyoe of oil did u use

@eckyzahro6880 2 года назад

thanks, for the tips man! appreciate that! :))

@OwenSindler 11 месяцев назад

Nice job. I like ur music too

@TANKIONLINE-xd5hb 3 года назад

thanks for the video help me

@ElectTheDead78 4 года назад

Gonna try this.. thanks

@MuckingMunt 4 года назад

I need that Dremel tool case!

@tonycoffee7335 3 года назад

On my brake systems I could not find an adjustment screw on each side. How do I tighten one or the other side of brake.

@Mantis858585 2 года назад

Some only have adjustment screw on one side.

@andrewvillavicencio8496 2 месяца назад

Thank you! Very informative and humorous :-) I was having issues with the brakes on my old 1990 Cannondale M700 that I still ride daily! Subscribed

@michaelcecere2662 3 года назад

Bomb ass video!

@permanenceinchange2326 4 месяца назад

I love cantilever brakes for being much more stable than V-brakes. When the mechanism of V-brakes gets dirty, they tend to pull to one side, rubbing against your rim. Canti's are 3-point suspended, so they stay centered under whatever circumstances! A couple of tips though: * Use a cable cutter instead of a side cutter, so you don't damage the strands of the wire. * Use some thread locker on the bolts (most new bolts are equipped with a bit of thread locker at the top) * Put a piece of carton under the back end of the brake pad when adjusting. It helps against noise, and the pads will flex in smoothly on the rim when braking. That's my 50 cents... Have a safe ride!

@Naturlover56 4 года назад

Shout bro

@DilbertMuc 3 года назад

Cantilever brakes work best if they are dumped in the trash bin and be replaced by V-brakes. Even the cheapest V-brakes are way better than high-end Cantis. Just in case, there are Xtreme travel adapters available for pull-ratio conversions.

@jam230810 4 года назад

are those cantilevers compatible with to those latest shimano STIs?

@richardlocke3375 4 года назад

jam230810 Canti and linear pull have different leverage ratios. Some modern sti have mechanisms to select one or the other. Canti setting has less travel but more leverage. Linear pulls more cable but less leverage.

@glen3509 4 месяца назад

Shimano should drop Deore and bring back STX and / or STX-RC "YEAH❗️"👍👍

@johnarnold9189 3 года назад

Great !!

@GameplayerSolCley 2 года назад

Mecanico y piloto.

@RodrigoRA1976 4 года назад

tks!

@DennisNowland 4 года назад

Not popular because they are cheap. Not like swanky disc brakes. No weight in cantilevers either.

@ondrewbee 3 года назад

People so upset about the music lol. Thanks for some tips. I see some debate about the pivot point and post attachment point not being vertical but I’m not experienced enough to offer my opinion. It’s easy enough to adjust so maybe I’ll just play with it and see.

@normanchan2001 3 года назад

I had no idea I needed a steam cleaner

@Cobalt985 Год назад

That's because it's entirely unnecessary and will not give you any noticeable improvement in braking force.

@LaserrSharp 4 года назад

What tires are on that bike?

@purpletrance9874 4 года назад

Ritchey Climb Max...but I can't see where to buy these (not cheap though!)

@chriswright9096 2 года назад

Do you have to deflate the tire to remove the wheel?

@smileyguyz 2 года назад

Not usually, one side will be able to pull and slide out. It'll be the side opposite of the lever with the pinch bolt.

@gerhardw.933 Год назад

There is a quick release, where the end of the straddle cable (cable between both brake arms) is hinged, not screwed). You can pull the round end of the cable out, the whole brake setup loosens, and you can take off the inflated wheel. With the removal of the wheel, you mention actually an important point. I set up my cantilever brakes with the function of the hinged side of the straddle cable in mind. If the straddle cable is too tight to unhinge, you have to use a tool (in my case a 5mm hex key) to open it to remove your wheel, you need a tool to close the screw. If you use a tool to loosen the straddle cable, you might also have to adjust the cantilever brake - again!

@DilbertMuc Год назад

The dremel part of polishing the "pivot" is utter nonsense. It is a break holder and not a pivot at all and please check the functioning setup of cantilever and V-brakes. There is an inner metal ring in the brake that simply slides on the the brake holder. The brake holder can be rotten and rusty and the brake would still perform perfectly well. You need to clean and lube the inner metal parts of the brake. 🧐🖕

@michaelviglianco6121 Месяц назад

Do you wear plastic gloves to ride the bike? Why does every youtuber wear these gloves?

@jurijrozanec 4 года назад

Hey I've recently dissasembled my cantis, but front and rear springs are different, so now i don't know how to put the springs back. Do you have any idea about it

@achn2b 2 года назад

Look at the brakes as they would be on the bike, meaning, look at the front brakes from the front, and the rear brakes from the rear. The caliper on the left, the spring winds clockwise. The caliper on the right, the spring winds in a counterclockwise direction.

@jurijrozanec 2 года назад

@@achn2b hehe figured it out by myself in the mean time, but thanks

@agezomine 4 года назад

Simply put on V-brakes, that will not cost that much and will be stronger.

@spacetraveler834 4 года назад

I think the owner of that bike is purposefully keeping the bike in its original form almost like a classic car collector.

@reedjacksonmaccom Год назад

thank you

@my_dear_friend_ 2 года назад

I need to install cantilever brakes on an older bike. The wire assembly comes in type "A" and type "B". Do you know what the difference might be? It looks like in your video that your wires are type "A" for the back (11:09) and type "B" for the front (10:45). Did I see this correctly?

@Solarsystem50 4 года назад

That is a awesome looking bike, Love to see vintage bike tech. So much easier and cheaper to fix. There are not been built anymore, so there is also a scarcity factor.

@NikoxD93 4 года назад

happy brakes :)

@MrGichinfunakoshi 4 года назад

La musica!! Do you speak spanish? Best regards from Canary Islands, Spain

@ervanslim 10 месяцев назад

I must know the song that starts at 4:14. Can someone help me find it. Thanks

@pkelly20091 4 года назад

I wish you'd come to the UK and set up my cantis. I spent an half hour today adjusting the front brake, it's still performs fairly poorly !

@Kevin-tl4zw 4 года назад

man same here! i’ve been experiencing problems on my front brake.. been thru almost cantilever setup videos here lol

@pkelly20091 4 года назад

Shimano introduced V brakes in 1996, they perform a lot better and are easier to set up than cantis. I've ordered some !

@Kevin-tl4zw 4 года назад

@@pkelly20091 yes i've considered switching to v brakes.. but i'm more of a period correct kind of guy plus i upgraded to kool stop pads so i could live with it :D

@peterjv8748 4 года назад

@@Kevin-tl4zw Do not follow this video. It is completely wrong. This video shows proper set up. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-G_tDym0G6zo.html

@n2n8sda 3 года назад

@@peterjv8748 Agree, Park Tools guide is spot on. Don't forget to make sure the rim is clean and free of any oil / grease and that the shoes are in good condition... old hardened shoes will perform poorly.