CAPACITY HACK For ANY Power Station // PowerUrus 100Ah LiFePO4 Battery

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@freelyroaming 8 месяцев назад

Everyone who's suggesting using 2 batteries in series doesn't understand a few things. First, it's far more expensive to buy 2 batteries instead of one. Second, it is more difficult to transport and still requires you to crimp and solder wires. And lastly and most importantly, it does not give you current-limiting functionality for safety purposes. So please, if you are wondering, I do NOT generally recommend connecting 2 batteries together instead of using a DC boost converter. You can do that if you want but just know that it is not a better solution for the purpose of this video.

@HebrewNomadOverlander 7 месяцев назад

Very true, there would be no need to purchase 2 batteries when you can simply purchase a 200ah battery, a all in one. Question?

@Zkpe02 7 месяцев назад

I recently purchased an Anker C1000 with the expansion battery. I have several 12.8v 100ah batteries that I can attach if needed a pure sine wave inverter that I can pump up to 1300w or as low as 100w of power into my power station using the Anker app to adjust whatever wattage I want to charge with. My expansion problems are over with…With 3ea 200w solar panels I’m good to go. I’ve done all that small step up inverter work with the different adapters to my smaller power stations which are basically obsolete, but I wanted something out of the box I could just plug and play that would meet all my needs..Small, portable & powerful…

@crucian7 3 месяца назад

@@HebrewNomadOverlander good idea. If you increase the AH of the battery and just use a single battery, it seems like it should be the best answer for a cheaper alternative to use with a small home battery backup. Imagine using a 400ah battery.

@DBbyDesign Месяц назад

They make 24v lifepo4 batteries right on Amazon. No need to series 2 12v together.

@freelyroaming 28 дней назад

@tonyinfinity it is never a good idea to connect batteries directly to each other without current limiting device in between. LOL! ROFL! But you do you bro.

@budmartin3344 Год назад

Good video. I use adjustable output boost converter for my Bluetti, and other Solar gen I have, it works great. Here are some of my suggestions to improve safety. 1) Put a fuse on the battery positive terminal so in case the Boost converter shorted out or accidentally short circuit the wiring. 2) Put a Female XT60 on the battery side instead of having exposed male pins as you have right now.

@freelyroaming Год назад

I've got a bag full of different soldered connectors I made to adapt whatever I need so I don't have to deal with making one-off adapters when I need to make something work. Some are for the explicit purpose of having an automotive blade fuse but I didn't feel the need to use it here. Plus these connectors aren't any more or less safe on the female or the male side by design. The male pins are not exposed. Plus just about every power station in the market today has reverse polarity and short circuit protection. Definitely every single one I showed here do. But sure I figured there is always gonna be some Safety Sallys piping up on every video.

@davidr9876 Год назад

@@freelyroaming How do you survive with such a thin skin? let me fix your snarky reply for you - "Ty, good idea. I don't need it for my purpose but others might benefit"

@DrNumanG Год назад

@@davidr9876 u r right david.. we have to be more "flexible" and open minded and have neoguh nerves to be stay calm and open for suggestions.

@freelyroaming Год назад

@@paulstaf you sound like someone who has zero practical experience. Just desperate commenting on other people's channels to find any shred of relevancy.

@s.mendez7160 11 месяцев назад

Great video production! We fuse our LFP's to protect the wire. LFP's, due to their very low internal resistance, can delivery more instantaneous joules of energy than AGM or FLA Batteries in the event of a short circuit. Nobody wants a fire, and most people on here don't have Electrical Engineering backgrounds.

@donho6856 18 дней назад

Basically a battery charging a battery. GENUIS!!!!!!!

@Wijkkie Год назад

I use a pure Sine 12V to 220V 600W pure sinus inverter for my Bluetti 2400. Works as a charm. ( Europe has 220V )

@TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk 4 месяца назад

You are converting the energy twice, resulting in lower efficiency and higher idle consumption. You can do it if you don’t mind the loss. Otherwise the boost converter is more efficient

@OregonDARRYL Год назад

I was about to just connect my LifePO4 battery to the charge port. Glad I saw this. Thanks, man.

@OregonDARRYL Год назад

I just connected my 50ah LifePO4 directly to the charge port on my EBL power station, which is marked 12V - 26V input. It's charging perfectly at 48 watts. So, maybe you don't even need this boost converter. Try it... if your PS allows it.

@brobrozbox 10 месяцев назад

Knowledge is power and this is pure gold sir. Great video content. Very needy info. Thank you!

@jasonbroom7147 Год назад

If you want to make a lot of money, build a "capacity booster" that will auto-sense both input and output, allowing you to connect to any source (12/24/36/48) and safely charge any power station, regardless of what it draws. You could include a heat sensor and cooling fan. (Some boost converters come with a fan attached.)

@Oblivionsurveyor Год назад

They already make auto detecting chargers, I use four them to charge my LifePO4, 12v or 24v. If you really want to make some money, make a 120amp all in one unit. Only one on the market and it has Brazilian plugs. I have to rig four chargers together to achieve my charge rate goal on generator power. I have reduced Generator Charging from Over 24 hours to 3 hours. I wonder how much energy i save..... lol

@Stuff_happens Год назад

They make voltage regulators, for what it’s worth. They are used where shore power or generator power lags or fluctuates. It outputs constant 120 or 220 AC.

@Stuff_happens Год назад

@@Oblivionsurveyor why 120? Is it just an open market at that capacity? Pretty sure you could come up with something.

@armandocorella975 Год назад

Why not plug your battery directly into the solar panel connector. The internal controller should regulate the battery current.

@raylivengood8040 9 месяцев назад

He’s probably keeping it at a voltage range that spreads across dc voltage inputs of those devices. Makes sense, but so does your question lol.

@merseyian Год назад

I connect directly to a cig lighter with a cheap wattmeter to a compact 3s 3.7v lithium pack from 10.5v it fast charges at 10 to 11 amp. Then later boost to lifepo4 battery. Great for no sun in December and January

@freelyroaming Год назад

Get your own PowerUrus battery here: freelyroaming.com/powerurus Parts shown in this video: 12v-24v Boost Converter: amzn.to/3A9STwW XT60 Connectors: amzn.to/3UwVt8h If you don't want to solder, you can get these pre-wired connectors for a tool-less build: Wired XT60 connectors: amzn.to/3NX2E7j Lever wire connectors: amzn.to/3Tyibvo

@royrobinson4636 Год назад

That was an impressive demonstration 😎 Two Thumbs-up!! 👍👍 I've been trying to figure out how to do that with my new Delta 2 and watched a few other videos with very poor results. Great job!

@lxboogersugarxl8431 Год назад

Roy, been looking for the same thing for the Delta 2. Did you go with anything? Great video @Freely Roaming.

@royrobinson4636 Год назад

@@lxboogersugarxl8431 ~ YES I did. 😎 Considering the limited "D/C input" and limited additional capacity available for the *Delta 2 ( @500-watts / with any combination of volts up to 60 volts), I decided to take a completely different approach by using the "A/C input" of the *Delta 2 which has a fantastic input spec for its size and capacity of 1,200-watts (120-volt x 10-amp = 1,200 watts). My theory (untested at the moment)) is to use a 12/24 D/C volt to 120 A/C volt inverter and connect multiple 12 or 24 volt LifePo4 batteries, using the inverters A/C outlet to recharge the *Delta 2 A/C input. For example one 12.8 volt x 100ah battery = 1,280 watts, exceeding the original capacity of the *Delta 2 with one $300 battery and the cost of the inverter (minus the power loss for the inverter). Now imagine the potential storage capacity of a larger battery bank stacked with either 12-volt or 24-volt LifePo4 batteries. Then add a solar power charge controller and recharge your battery bank during the day with any sized solar array that matches your daily usage. Remember, the D/C to A/C inverter only needs to be running when recharging the *Delta 2. The same inverter can also be used to supply power for other items in the home as needed. The right solar panel array should be designed to recharge your battery bank.

@lxboogersugarxl8431 Год назад

@@royrobinson4636 nice! It’s funny you mentioned that theory as I was looking at inverters today. It seems easier to keep it to AC charging even with the lose. The input any other way stepping up is too slow. I appreciate the input and insight. Just needs to make sure is pure sine wave. I actually snagged a fuel fuel genny over the holidays for backup to is. Works great!

@royrobinson4636 Год назад

@@lxboogersugarxl8431 ~ I retired 5 years early (7 years ago) as an engineer and own a ranch in a very rural area. "Self-reliance" has been my goal for the past 5-6 years, it's also become a lifestyle. A backup generator system with manual switchgear was one of my first goals. I use two (2) 2500-watt Champion dual-fuel inverter generators connected to the low-pressure side of my 250-gal bulk propane tank. I can run both in series or parallel or independently using a parallel box to feed my 240volt / 200 amp distribution panel. Both generators are de-rated to 1750 watts using propane and another minus 50+ watts for high altitude, together they can produce about 3400 watts, which is more than enough for my critical needs. Both are still light enough (40 lbs each) and quiet enough (53 dB) and are fitted with quick disconnects, making them portable enough to grab and toss in my truck with a couple of 20lb propane tanks and take that power anywhere. I use the *Delta 2 specifically for my home office and Starlink internet. I have both Residential and Starlink R/V systems. 🤠

@p.b.7861 Год назад

I also bought Delta2 (Ecoflow), and noted that the back of it is a male XT-60i which has a gold middle pin (data pin). Cannot buy Xt-60i female anywhere, so used regular xt-60 female with 48 volt DC LRS-600-48 Mean Well P.S. It works but the current is limited to 8 Amp only, so, the charge was 429 watts with 54.5V and 7.8A. Yes, you have to adjust the output voltage at P.S. to Max. Of 54.5V. 2 nd method I used the DC to DC booster set at 60V and 8 A the output is 481 Watts but when measured the MPPT inside Delta2 adjusted to 41.7V and 11.46A which surprised me because my XT-60 was not Ecoflow XT-60i to MC4 cable (yes, you have to pay extra, not come with Delta2). But still under 15 A maximum.

@PatrickFordyce-b7c 4 месяца назад

I really like that idea for getting 4 to 5 times longer use and faster charge time is a game changer

@shagitup 7 месяцев назад

Awesome info! I was looking for an economical way to supplement my new EcoFlow Delta.Thanks!

@spuriouseffect 9 месяцев назад

This is exactly the video I've been looking for. I couldn't get my batteries that are charged with my solar panels to charge my Bluetti. The current just wouldn't flow. I thought that I was doing something wrong. Thank you thank you!

@airinbone Год назад

I'm new to solar and solar powered generators and such, but this is exactly what I had in mind.

@SYSirius Год назад

That's a very smart solution. Never thought of that, thanks for sharing this idea.

@freelyroaming Год назад

Thanks! Glad you like it.

@SYSirius Год назад

@@freelyroaming I really do. Btw, we based our LifePO4 conversion on your videos. One year ago now. I will do a capacity test video soon.

@wrxs1781 Год назад

I enjoyed your video, I am still in the decision making process for my camper build electrical system, always appreciate new ideas, thanks.

@raylivengood8040 9 месяцев назад

Very easy to understand. Thanks for your clear explanation , especially the universal examples. I have a Anker Solix F1500 that I wanted to connect my ebike batteries to for extra capacity. I’ll have to determine the voltage DC input on the station and decide from there if I need a step down or step up to satisfy the input range. I think the power station DC input range is 11V-60V. I have lithium ion batteries (that I can make use of) ranging from 36-72V. There are now anti-spark and battery blender devices that can be used with batteries of same voltage, but differing Ah capacities. I’ve used these successfully on my e-bike projects. I’ll have to read more from the comments, but connecting a adjustable low voltage cutoff device from the feeder battery would be good. The BMS isn’t always so great, especially under load.

@nustar1 Год назад

Perfect! I literally have been trying to figure this one out and wasn’t sure what to try. Thank you.

@ralphbuoncristiani2941 7 месяцев назад

This was well presented and clearly explained. I think this is a good solution to use in an RV with a fixed LiFePO4 battery. Your solution provides 1280KwH of additional storage. The accessory battery is not cheap ($340). The accessories add another $25-40. External charger perhaps $50 for a total of $430. Correct me if my addition is off. Negatives - Moving a large battery around is awkward - no handle/no case. Maximum output wattage is still limited to the power supply circuits of your power station. Albeit half the capacity, a new EcoFlow 600 is $479. If you just need a moderate increase in storage a larger second unit would seem to be a better solution. Is the boost converter necessary with some units? The specs on my EcoFlow River 2 indicate it will accept 12-20 volts input for charging. It comes with a cigarette plug adapter to charge from your car which is12 volts. If this is correct, couldn’t I just hook the battery to the 12 volt charging plug? Does it already have internal circuitry to limit the current and adjust the voltage? I’d like to see this solution adapted to use with batteries we all might already have on hand (i.e. power tools, drones, external battery chargers for cell phones). It may be a small boost but often that’s all you need.

@freelyroaming 7 месяцев назад

The cost comparison needs to be made with first party battery add ons like this 6kwh ecofow delta option. amzn.to/3UEKkoU This is over 5-10x the price at per Wh level. Generic LiFePo4 packs are always going to be the cheapest option for the amount of capacity that you get. Power tool batteries are far more expensive per Wh and the battery chemistry does not give it the cycle life as compared to these. it would be much more costly over time to use them. Boost converter serves as the equalizer to make this work with more types of power stations. While not needed for some, it can serve as a safety feature for all as it adds a cheap and easily replaceable current limiting feature. You can certainly buy smaller lifepo4 batteries to make it more portable and lower the cost significantly especially when compared to other options you mentioned. The prices have continued to fall. 100Ah lifepo4 packs are now easily below $200 and 50ah ones can be found for less than 100. amzn.to/49hjCqZ They are small and weigh as little as 12 lbs. That's half the weight of a case of beer which I know for a fact that people have no problems carry with them when they go camping 😉

@jeffreywalker-f1o Месяц назад

Far cheaper than the extra Bluetti 230 battery at $999.00!

@stanschermerhorn9369 Год назад

I'm a newbie. It would be nice to have a video on how to build the pigtale cable coming off the battery.

@freelyroaming Год назад

Thanks for the feedback. I will try to find time to make some howto videos like that.

@william38022 Год назад

Look around for this model on RU-vid and there are quite a few videos that show how to make that wire

@whydontyouaskme Год назад

I recommend you get a professional to make the pigtail cable, maybe even warrantied try a cellphone repair/ electronics repair and show them what you need. If you do this wrong you will regret it. That being said a newbie should be able to do it anyway. But it’s your money and battery….

@Master-Blaster-4x4 Год назад

@@freelyroamingplease send link if you made video

@camposvazquez Год назад

@@freelyroaming thank you for this video.. I am about to buy a first gen Prius... will this work to increase driving range?

@evliving5495 7 месяцев назад

I really enjoyed your video and it was very informative so it’s utilizing a boost converter you are getting a stable wattage for them to accept solar connection via XT60 connector.

@evliving5495 7 месяцев назад

I personally have a foxnov 384W, and 2 Allpowers S2000 1500W units. I’m planning on adding batteries instead of buying other units until I have enough for a large scale unit that can output 8000-10,000W as I’m looking for a whole home power station solution

@clouseau54 Год назад

My project is to use this hack combined with a dollar regulator to charge a 100mA battery during the time I'm out of my country house. I can have this extra energy fully charged once I arrive on Friday with my Delta 2 fully charged too. And I can keep a little fridge working too

@DBbyDesign Месяц назад

Great video. I would attempt to source a battery thats 24v to do this if your power station requires it. Those cheap 12-24v dc converters are considerably inefficient. Thats why they get so hot over time. Great option if you already have the 12 battery laying around.

@jeffreywalker-f1o Месяц назад

I'm an admitted idiot with DC power. How would the 24 v battery hook up work? Can it directly feed the 12 v power station without modification? Also, if using an alternator to charge these, which battery would you use? Thanks for any ideas.

@frustratedalien666 Год назад

Very informative video, though I do want to add a caveat. My 500 Wh and 750 Wh LFP power stations from Ecopower and Bluetti charge within 60-65 minutes. I am not sure about their 1 KWh models, but they might charge up quicker than the 3 hours it takes to charge the PowerUrus, but only some of the devices support such a high charging rate. Regardless of that, I am now going to buy the PowerUrus because that is a lot cheaper than buying the expansion units from Bluetti or Ecopower lol

@freelyroaming Год назад

That kind of charging speed is possible but not common. I know of just ecoflow who is doing 1C charging rates. I assume this is new for Bluetti as they are 2 of the top tier brands competing with each other. Most AC power adapters charge at around 200W.

@BOOSTEDLASER Год назад

@@freelyroaming HOW DO YOU CHARGE THE BATTERY?

@freelyroaming Год назад

@@BOOSTEDLASER it is in the video 14:36

@campbellsoup4910 Год назад

What up Doe!? Very nice Hack!! Can't wait to try on our power station. Great job 👍🏼

@Paula-lk6ff Год назад

Very nice presentation. I've saved it for reference. I too need written directions on how to make pigtail cables. I've got a booklet by Will Prowse which I hope will explain for novices how this set up safely increases the generator capacity.

@GHE2005 Год назад

Excellent demo for what I need. 👍🏽👏🏽 I hv Ecoflow 882wh mini delta & 1000 Jackery & need extended power. I'll need to make some pigtails connectors.

@marykoob8 Год назад

Please forgive the lack of knowledge, this is all very new to me. It appears you are using 4ea. 12 AWG wires from the battery into the XT60 connector, is there a specific purpose for that connection rather than just 2 wires? I really appreciate this video, a genius hack!

@victorjoseph8948 3 дня назад

personnally i prefer a 24volt battery QWW has one 24v 50ah for 350 CAD yes the 12 to 24 v booster is a cheaper solution but it heats up and would need a fan to keep it cooler.

@liljasere 5 месяцев назад

The performance you are getting from that tiny boost converter you can get she same by just wiring a xt60i connector that has its activation pin linked to the negative then connect it straight to the battery no converter needed it will charge at the current limit of the mppt

@freelyroaming 5 месяцев назад

Unless explicitly stated, power stations do not support XT60i connectors and will not have the ability to read the data stream. The third pin will do nothing. None of the ones I showed here do. That means they will not charge from the native battery voltage. Generic MPPT charge controllers will simply ignore the lower than sufficient voltage and do nothing. However, all charge controllers will charge from 24vdc as it mimics a solar panel which they are all designed to be used with. The point here is to find a way that works with the widest range of power stations out there. Not only the ones that might work with it.

@Jesusisthe1way Год назад

Any video on how to do this and add a solar panel to show all three units working together?

@sopranosfan2 9 месяцев назад

Can't I just hook up a power inverter to the battery and just plug in my solar inverter to that and charge it that way?

@TravelwithDaySack 4 месяца назад

I need to know this as well! I have Delta 2 and a 220w solar panel and I want to expand the capacity this way..

@freelyroaming 4 месяца назад

This is how you would normally charge it but it require more equipment and is slightly less efficient. You are inverting the DC source first to AC and converting it back again to DC. Each one of those jumps create inefficiency. Using the method shown eliminates one of those conversion steps which creates more efficiency.

@ktee-ts9wf 14 дней назад

@@sopranosfan2 and at that point just use the battery and inverter and skip the power station altogether lol

@sopranosfan2 6 дней назад

I started out with the solar generator. And after buying the panels for it to charge it up I started getting more panels and batteries. So now I got both backup for the backup 😁

@andyandrinadioso4443 Год назад

I just did this hack..thank you so much this idea

@freelyroaming Год назад

Happy to help

@davidcox8961 Год назад

I have the Ecoflow River without the extra battery. I want to be able to extend it's battery life by tying into the pair of deep cycle lead acid batteries that I have. The voltage of two fully charged 12 V batts will exceed the River's charge limits I believe. What sort of current limiter should I use. I also wonder how much power I can take from my Nissan Leaf traction battery. DC-DC converter puts out 1000 watts @12v.power.

@skye1212 Год назад

This 100ah Power Urus battery is around $400. It is cheaper than the main brand expansion batteries. But the Bluetti 800 ah one w all the bells and whistles is $6-700 without all the rigging.

@freelyroaming Год назад

Bluetti doesn't sell a 800Ah unit. An 800Ah LiFePO4 at 12.8v is over 10kWh of capacity. If you are talking about their 800Wh unit, that's only 2/3 of the capacity of a 100Ah battery. Add the capacity of whatever power station you are starting with, which you might already own, you are only getting about 50% of total capacity with what you are talking about. It's really apples and oranges. You're talking about just buying a bigger power station but this is about expanding the one you already own. It will always be cheaper to do it this way.

@scottosborn4820 10 месяцев назад

Hi Dan, thank you for making this video. Quick question- I have a 24v day solar system with 4 100ah batteries. Already having 24v at my disposal, is there a device that protects a power station from over voltage during charging from a battery bank? I realize most power stations have built in protection but I want redundancy in protection. Thank you.

@diesel112358 Год назад

Cool video! I may do something like this in the future. Don't know if it's been asked, but would a 24v LiFePo4 battery work? That way, you wouldn't need the dc to dc converter.

@BeefNEggs057 Год назад

Yes it would. Would double your watts in as expected. Your power station will limit based on the max amps it can charge at. My bluetti is limited at 15 amps and will not allow more than that. 15 amps x 12.6 v =189 watts. 15 amps x 25.2v = 378 watts. You can series connect two 12v batteries to get 24v as an option. You should be able to go up to 48v even. Since the amps aren’t increasing, wire size doesn’t become an issue. Still 15 amps or whatever your power station limits charging to.

@donbrloks3959 Год назад

Interesting concept. So I had to try it on my Jackery 300 without the converter. It charges at 78 watts through the cigarette lighter plug, which is about all the flimsy barrel connector can handle without overheating. Works like a champ.

@freelyroaming Год назад

Usually those connectors and cigarette lighter plugs have a 10A rating. That is also why using a 24v boost converter is best because it will allow it to handle more watts without increasing the current.

@donbrloks3959 Год назад

Would be for a larger power station. Max the Jackery 300 can take is 6 amps, so cig plug works very well.

@freelyroaming Год назад

@@donbrloks3959 6A at what voltage? Because if you can take in 6A at 24v then you can charge at double the rate as 6A at 12v.

@donbrloks3959 Год назад

@@freelyroaming 12 v. The Jackery limits incoming charge no matter how much you make available

@freelyroaming Год назад

@@donbrloks3959 the jackery 300 has a 90w max charge rate with a 12-30v input limit. At 12v you would charge at a max of around 7a. 24v would half that. That unit is one of the smallest power stations and would take over 3 hours to charge it. there are many more modern options like the ecoflow river 2 that will charge at a much faster rate.

@flpirate4565 Год назад

Great video,I do thank you for the information.😊

@bradkaral1188 Год назад

Well-done. Very well articulated.

@HdaTyp3R Год назад

That’s good to know but how did you charge the 100ah battery?

@nunyabeeswax7937 7 месяцев назад

I need to know this too

@freelyroaming 7 месяцев назад

It was in the video.

@Zkpe02 Год назад

When on the road I use a 300w Bestek inverter to charge either my 2 ea. LifeP04 12v 100ah 1280wh batteries, Jackery, Bluetti or Anker solar generators using their respective charging bricks or 600 watts of portable solar panels with Mppt charge controller for LifeP04 batteries….Many Many ways to expand your usable Watt Hours of power….

@freelyroaming Год назад

You are not really 'expanding the capacity' with these methods because you are just charging from other power generating sources. This video is about actually increasing the capacity of what you can bring with you.

@Zkpe02 Год назад

@@freelyroaming I actually have 4 ea. of the 12v 100ah LifePO4 batteries I can connect to the Power Stations if needed. I also use 1 battery to power my GMRS 40w radio and roof mounted emergency light-bar, no drain on my truck battery when engine is not running. I also have a portable 200w solar panel with a Mppt controller I can connect to the battery if needed, it does a good job keeping the battery charged…

@larrybell4599 11 месяцев назад

That’s a great idea. Thank you for sharing.

@Tjensen999 Год назад

I LOVE this!!!! Thank you!!!!!! 🥰🥰

@InGratitudeIam 10 месяцев назад

Renogy makes an affordable 2,000W pure sine wave inverter that makes quick work of charging a power station. It costs about $100 less than the battery and doesn't take up as much room.

@freelyroaming 10 месяцев назад

Still need a battery or power source to charge. Obviously it won't work alone

@InGratitudeIam 9 месяцев назад

@@freelyroaming This is true. The given is that there is a power bank in both scenarios. The question is, what is the best/most efficient way to keep the power bank charged? And, if you look at my original comment, I mentioned the power station.

@victorjoseph8948 Месяц назад

i know it is cheaper to use that booster but i prefer a 24 v 100ah battery for my ac 180 bluetti

@Walter-ts1vu 5 месяцев назад

Great video. Thanks for sharing. 😊

@dross24MA Год назад

? Does the length of a pigtail make any difference on charging or delivery/"flow" rate? ? Does each use the same gauge wire or are all of them different - and can a wire be too heavy?

@gigeconomy147 5 месяцев назад

Can you please provide a link to the battery charger lithium ion phosphate charger you used in this video, thank you so much. I would like to purchase the kind of model you used. Thanks again.😊

@freelyroaming 5 месяцев назад

This is the one in the video. amzn.to/3UaDk10

@rashb3994 Месяц назад

Thanks for this. It's kind of hard to find videos where they explain how to recharge it. I didn't know you could buy a recharger, I thought I was going to have to do it the car or something. Thx!

@chrisw1462 8 месяцев назад

@19:12 "..power station companies will likely void your warranty.." As long as you use the Solar input, and that input is rated for at least 30 volts (any designed for 24v panels will be), they can't say much about it. The varying power from an actual panel or array is actually more stressful than the booster could ever be. If you really want to protect it, add a 470 uF capacitor on the Output - that will filter most switching noise. Either way, I would only tell them it died during normal use.

@freelyroaming 8 месяцев назад

They can't say because they won't know. But if they knew that is how you were using it, it will certainly void the warranty.

@yidingzhou5344 9 месяцев назад

Maybe I should connect 2 12v lfp batteries together? That way I don’t need the dc dc booster.

@jazzthespot1493 Год назад

Can this be done to a bluetti EB3A?

@BexCatherder Год назад

Very cool! Never thought of this before! :-)

@mlagouros Год назад

Great video, I was wondering if anyone has tried putting 2x12V in series so as to make it a 24V cluster.. I guess that should work and doesn't need a step up 12to24V converter since those things are getting pretty hot and couldn't leave them unattended...

@jeffmcclain 11 месяцев назад

Yup. This is how most of the power walls function.

@edegwaendurance3189 9 месяцев назад

But the concept is misplaced by using batteries in series. The idea around the boost converter is that it enables the system, charging from a variable voltage source (of 12v requirements), to increase power (watts) with reduced current (amps) due to boost voltage.

@freelyroaming 9 месяцев назад

Also an important safety precaution is having a current limiter in place. 2 batteries in series has the potentialif delivering current at dangerous levels.

@joncoffman657 Год назад

Oh really simple solution

@EnufIsTooMuch 3 месяца назад

There will always be a power loss when converting from one voltage to another even with the best designed buck convertor. So while you can do this to extend the run time (watt hours) of an all in one LiFePo4 power station, always remember that you will never get the full capacity (watt-hours) from the external battery. There will always be a loss.

@freelyroaming 3 месяца назад

I hope this is an obvious statement to everyone else.

@martienstofmeel2192 3 месяца назад

This converter gives 24volt. Can i plug this into the powerstation port 12volt? Thanks for this good video.😊

@letterglettera9318 Год назад

Hi, great idea! The power station "art hill" I googled it and I could not find it. Where did you buy this? What's its website? Please reply.

@303Estates Год назад

Genius!! Thanks!

@ChrisPavlides Год назад

Nice trick, but if you are off-grid, this is just one time use. How you can charge this external battery ?

@freelyroaming Год назад

Get a solar panel.

@ladonsewell4558 11 месяцев назад

U should make ur wire expand for ppl that want it easy.......sorry I can't do that but have a power station

@jeffmccrea9347 Год назад

Twelve volt automotive lighter sockets used to be made of steel and were fused at 20 amps. AHHH, I miss the good old days.

@freelyroaming Год назад

They may be fused at 20A but probably still technically rated at 10A. Most sockets aren't the problem and might handle it but the wire gauge and the actual adapters typically used are the bottleneck.

@jeffmccrea9347 Год назад

@@freelyroaming This was true some of the time. My first car, in 1974, was a '68 Chevy Bel Aire. It was a stripped model. No air, no radio and the gas tank was an option. Before I knew better, I connected EVERYTHING to the cigarette lighter line AM radio, separate FM radio, 8 track tape player, 10 watt PA amp CB radio with 50 watt linear amp and el cheapo fog lamps. I wanted everything to work without the key. I kept blowing the 20 amp fuse so I replaced it with a copper slug of the same physical size. The wire never suffered. My 3rd car was a 1966 Cadillac. It had a lighter in all 4 doors and one in the dash. The fuse block was fused for 30 amps in case more than one was used and each socket had a 15 amp cartridge fuse between the power plug and the socket. I now own a 2010 Dodge Grand Caravan. It has 4 factory outlets on two 20 amp circuits. Two are on full time and two are switched with the key. I blew the switched circuit when my electric cooler box shorted out. When I went to change the fuse, I saw that the socket had three contacts. If you set the fuse in the original contacts, the two outlets were switched. If you moved the fuse to the left using the center contact as common, it was on full time. I've never seen anything like it.

@vaano4 3 месяца назад

How would this work if you used a 24v LFP battery to power one of these power stations? Would you still need anything between?

@LiquidTurbo Год назад

Any fuse needed for this setup?

@freelyroaming Год назад

You protect the boost converter it wouldn't hurt to have a 15A inline fuse between the battery and the converter.

@LiquidTurbo Год назад

@@freelyroaming thanks. Possible video idea? A version 2? Thanks for the vids. Been learning a lot

@michaelvinalon3415 9 месяцев назад

Stumbled upon your channel great content !! Is there away to charge the lifePo battery from vehicle starter battery or alternator and charge while driving ? Thank you 😊

@shawnmccormack5798 7 месяцев назад

Yes 12v lighter socket or direct wire to battery with fuse on pos. Side of course

@ES-mq9ox Год назад

Freely Roaming - Will this work with the Ecoflow Delta 1300 unit that has maximum DC XT-60 input ratings of 65 volts & 10 amps? I have been considering buying a second EF unit in order to double my storage capacity, but this method would be so much more affordable. Plus, I could use the new 12v stand-alone battery to power the trolling motor in my boat, which is a nice added bonus. Thanks for the great information & videos!

@freelyroaming Год назад

Yes it would work with your ecoflow.

@VBD288 9 месяцев назад

Just connect your 12 volt battery to a 12volt/120 volt pure sine wave inverter [500 -1000 watt). Then plug your power generator 115 volt plug into the pure sound wave inverter. Simple

@freelyroaming 9 месяцев назад

That's the normal way people would have done this in the past. But it is not nearly as simple, inexpensive and efficient as the setup I am showing here.

@Wren6858 8 месяцев назад

Woah! Cool scar on your forearm. Are you carrying around some titanium?

@freelyroaming 8 месяцев назад

Surgical stainless I think.

@winstonsmith935 9 месяцев назад

The Cyber Truck has an expansive Hatch for a battery extension

@jonathantuck7599 Год назад

Standard auto inverter attach to battery then can use standard recharge module that comes with power station no fuss no muss and can get whatever charge rate you need...

@freelyroaming Год назад

What is a 'standard auto inverter'? Are you talking about a AC inverter? They are more expensive, bigger and less efficient. If you are going to bring a standalone AC inverter, then there isn't much of a need for the power station in the first place.

@oakshillelagh4339 Год назад

Very good review enjoyed it !

@krisyoung447 Год назад

With 100Ah LiFePO4 at about $300, this is a good idea over the commercial overpriced expansion options. For myself, if I'm going to carry a bunch of extra stuff, that negates the compact all in one usefulness of a portable generator. I think buying a large capacity LiFePo4 battery and a good inverter makes more sense. Then, you just use the battery directly without any inefficiencies of then charging the generator. You'll also be able to draw full capacity from the battery until drained instead of just 120ish watts. I have a bag of cables with every conceivable connection too:).

@freelyroaming Год назад

A power station has a lot of advantages. They are designed to be carried and doesn't need anything else attached to work unlike an inverter. The beauty of this hack is there isn't a bunch of extra stuff. Just a little boost converter that fits in your pocket.

@douglasarnoldakers 9 месяцев назад

Thank you. You just saved me time and money!@

@lesliehunter1823 Год назад

Could you achieve the same result by using a 24v server rack battery directly wired to the solar generator?

@thefpvlife7785 Год назад

Yes or better.

@DaveSquibbSr 23 дня назад

I keep my solar panels connect to a 300 amp hour battery and the 300 amp hour battery is connects to my power station therefore everything stays charged up

@trenthiggins 8 месяцев назад

How many battery can you connect at once ? And can you have a panel connected at the same time.charging the battery ?

@tonynagel9403 2 месяца назад

Young man I have a question for you I have been trying to figure out how much time I can get out of one of the lithium battery batteries 12.8v 100ah I’m doing some prospecting and need a power supply that is very light in weight the bilge pump I’m going to try to use is ruffle 20a to run it I bought a small power station and It’s not quite big enough to do what I need to do was going to return it but are power went out and it worked great to run a couple lights to get us by so I thought I would go a different way and use the lithium battery but I’m not coming up with a way to figure out how much time I can get out of one of these batteries to determine which one to use do you know how to go about doing this I have watched several videos but I thought you did a awesome job on your videos if you have any suggestions I would definitely welcome any advice on what to do thank you

@TribalGlobe Месяц назад

Ok I'm a little green on the topic, but what is the advantage of buying the powerpack over just an inverter to go with your battery and charger? The outlets?

@freelyroaming Месяц назад

@@TribalGlobe primarily because more cost and less efficiency

@MrPiccolop 4 дня назад

If ive got a pair of lithium batteries connected to a dc to dc system. Can i still use this technique? I mean if its charging with the dc to dc on and you use a jump starter to reset the bms?

@anonymous_friend 10 месяцев назад

After reading the comments, it's clear that this guy doesn't handle constructive criticism well, so one thing I would watch out for is his exposed terminals. You can see when he plugs them in that he's very close to getting 24V to the heart.

@freelyroaming 10 месяцев назад

Because it's always people who have no proven knowledge hiding behind anonymous accounts making uneducated suggestions. Just like yourself. You can literally touch both 24v terminals with your bare hands without any harm. Not even a tingle. The resistance of human skin makes short circuiting thru your body impossible at these levels. Especially with this boost converter limiting the current to only 3 amps. That is the same amount of current charging a smartphone. By your logic you would be afraid of USB charging cables. 24v is considered a safe low voltage and even so, it's high current flow creating friction in the form of heat that actually harms you, voltage has little to do with it. I would rather not have to reply to explain this to you so if you are hoping to provide 'constructive criticism' instead of just provoking fear, uncertainty and doubt, Please first educate yourself.

@ericwitt4586 7 месяцев назад

Good idea thanks

@andrewtomilin6942 3 месяца назад

how to charge additional batteries? does you need to charge them manually? if so - not comfortable, coz expansions from bluetti got charged from power station when the grid power supply comes back.

@philc.9280 Год назад

Another wonderful hack. Thanks for all your ideas. Question: can this step-up booster also be used to boost a 12-volt solar panel or a 12-volt power supply? I realize it may be slower but will it work? I'm always looking for alternative ways to charge. Thanks.

@freelyroaming Год назад

Thanks. Yes you can use it with a power supply but I would avoid using it with a solar panel as the voltage is not stable

@JL-qk3xu Год назад

First video I've seen on your channel and love the content, covers the exact idea I've been thinking about for a while, haven't seen many others thinking outside the box like this. Got an interesting question, your using a 12v to 24v boost converter to charge the power station, now my idea is I have a wealth of power tool batteries I've been modifying to power other items like ebikes. I have several 18v and 40v batteries, now the 18v batteries I think output more around 20ish so would I be able to bypass the boost converter if my batteries are already outputting 18-24 volts? Also my ideal setup would be 3d printing 40v ryobi battery mount to my 300watt power station and be able to power the station directly from the 40v battery instead of going thru an extra charge cycle on the internal battery, than I can hot swap in my other 40V batteries as needed. Does any of this make sense? :P I guess the more important question is which is the most efficient way of doing this.

@jeffbaran8036 Год назад

Great show. USA Jeff Baran 🇺🇸 FOREVER

@UPdan Год назад

So without the cheap 12 to 24v converter you can do the same as 12v to 12v using the barrel to cigarette lighter female and connect a cigarette male to battery clamps end and connect to the battery, correct? Slower but still moves the watts over.

@jtmtb856 Год назад

Nice video, I like it. Can you comment on the low capacity power station discharging faster like using a heater or high power consumption device than it can be charged by the lifepo4 battery pack?

@freelyroaming Год назад

Most of the time you won't be able to charge a power station faster than you can discharge it. So even though you could charge it with a spare battery, you will still run it empty first and will have to wait before running those high power devices again.

@colincrampton4875 5 месяцев назад

Great video! Just what I was looking for. Question. If I wanted to take it a step further and connected the 400w solar panels that are hooked up in my fifth wheel to charge my 200ah Lifepo4 battery and then connected the battery to my AllPowers R2500 with the method you described, would the panels then charge the RV battery and then the power station at the same time? I hope that my explanation makes sense :) THANKS!

@freelyroaming 5 месяцев назад

Thanks. Yes as long as the battery you are using to replenish the power station has power, it will keep topping off the power station indefinitely.

@cndbrn7975 Месяц назад

i'm thinking of running my emmo 72v ebike using (4) lifepo4 12v 30ah along with a 5v-40v (8A) boost/buck converter. i'll run the converter using a 12v 20ah lead acid battery. the bike used 6 12v 20 ah lead acid when purchased. What do you think of this setup?

@waynetaylor7285 7 месяцев назад

Do you have to use lithium battery not lead acid ?

@kenmatthews6476 8 месяцев назад

Questions: can you please confirm the model number of the converter? I clicked on your link w/part # TBS1224B72Z but your unit in the video has TBS1224B73Z. The gags wire is 18 awg on mine and yours has 12 awg wires. Lastly, why did you double up the cables from the converter to the battery. I am using single 12 awg wire to each post. Is that cool. Thanks sir.

@timl2k11 Месяц назад

If I want to charge the lithium battery from my car battery and I already have a 500 W inverter is there a battery charging device I can just plug into the inverter? I just feel like there must be some redundancy having an inverter plugged into my battery and then having the battery charger plugged into that.

@uhjyuff2095 Год назад

the ac50 doesn't need the dc/dc converter. Direct connect the 12.8v lifepo4 battery to the input and it will charge!

@freelyroaming Год назад

Yes some do not but to make it compatible with more power stations and to have more safety precautions, having a boost converter with current limiting capability is best. Otherwise a LiFePO4 battery can output a huge amount of current potentially causing wires to melt and start a fire.

@uhjyuff2095 Год назад

@@freelyroaming Would you say you forgot to install a 10 amp fuse on the lifepo4 for doing this type of hack?

@freelyroaming Год назад

@@uhjyuff2095 why would you install a 10a fuse? It's better to keep it electrically limited and you won't need to keep and change any fuses. It just works with nearly all power stations regardless of brand.

@uhjyuff2095 Год назад

@@freelyroaming You haven't seen a fuse panel in an RV or truck?

@freelyroaming Год назад

@@uhjyuff2095 You want to install a fuse panel? What? An RV? A truck? Are we still taking about power stations? 🤦‍♂️ This is getting pretty ridiculous. But hey man, you do you. No one cares really.

@ManlyBurp 9 месяцев назад

Can you post a link to that battery charger you used to charge the PowerUrus battery?

@Steve-ph4ec Год назад

Might it be even better to boost battery to 48 V at 10 A (480 W) since many power stations have a 10 A solar input limit? For example, Daygreen booster at Amazon or others for $100. Do still need to recharge the Li battery and need a power source to do that. Couldn’t that power source be used instead to charge the power station directly? This approach seems less expensive than a larger power station or it’s add on battery. But the Li battery is $100, the V boost is $100 and the Li recharge is also $100 so $500 total?

@kennethwers Год назад

If you had three solar panels facing different directions would three converters equalize the voltages?

@freelyroaming Год назад

I will first say that solar panels should not be connected to these boost converters directly. The only thing solar panels should connect to are charge controllers. You should only plug these converters into something that outputs stable voltage and current. Plugging solar panels directly into them will probably fry their circuits as the voltages are too high.

@Selgesee86 Год назад

Hello. The plan is to buy an ecoflow delta 2 and later such a lifopo4 battery. I understand that this way I can essentially increase the capacity of my delta 2 battery by 2x and it will be cheaper than buying an original ecoflow extra battery. Can someone answer, even if I'm in nature for a longer time, how can I charge the delta 2 with a solar panel, for example, and also charge the Lifopo4 extra battery directly from there? To be used as a mean delta 2 controller, because both inverters and controllers are already built into it.

@Blztrls Год назад

I’ve got a delta 2 max with extra battery and an additional 220 Ah 12v battery bank in my Sprinter van. The Delta 2 Max system is charged from 2 110watt Ecoflow solar panels. The 12V battery is charged through a mppt solar charger from 2 100watt solar panels and also directly from the van alternator. I have a XT60 connector from the 12v battery that can plug into the Ecoflow to charge it if I need to top up the Ecoflow but it maxes out at 120 Watts charging. So I have to use a 1000watt inverter to charge my Ecoflow at 1000Watts from the van alternator at 110V. It’s a cludgy setup but it works and gives me a total of around 6600 Wh of capacity and I can easily expand it to over 9000Wh by adding another 220Ah 12V battery. In hindsight I should have just built my own 12V system instead of trying to use the Ecoflow Delta 2 Max due to it’s limited charging capability.

@naturehobbies1796 Год назад

Nice, would like to check d cable on these booster can take d wattage above the limit to charge d power stations? Won’t they get hot or burn d cables?