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Contributing Editor Csaba Csere takes an in-depth and technical look into the 2012 Fisker Karma and interviews Henrik Fisker, chief designer and executive chairman of Fisker Automotive, on the latest episode of Car and Driver: Tested.
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CAR: Fisker Karma
LOCATION: California
MAG EDITORS: Csaba Csere
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@blacuraRL 11 лет назад

One word: Presence. This car has road presence in SPADES, especially if you see one on the road. Incredible design.

@HesteBremse 11 лет назад

Man i really like the reviews that this guy makes. Takes his time to go into a lot of details and also showing them. Covering practicality, Driving, Looks and giving his honest buying advice. Thanks ;D

@DonaldSeymourjr 11 лет назад

I like this guy Csere. He's special. Keep up the good work. Don't lose your uniqueness.

@OsbornTramain 10 лет назад

So they only built like 2500 cars and over 300 of them were destroyed by Hurricane Sandy....lol holy smoke, talk about Karma lol

@DJsProductions 10 лет назад

Your comment may be the best comment I have ever seen

@ndrsg3013 5 лет назад

Considering that "Mr" Fisker worked for Tesla design team and left Tesla to build his own electric hybrid with low spec and overpriced... His confidence convided people to buy these cars...

@ldodom 9 лет назад

One of Henrik Fisker's greatest strengths is his prowess in design. Just look at the lines of a Aston Martin Rapide (which he also designed). He should've stuck with that since this vehicle's greatest downfall is the lack of infrastructure in place to service it. This is where Tesla really shines; on a worldwide scale. The ownership experience that Tesla provides for their customers is second to none, and that's what a car purchase boils down to. Reliability, ease of service and cost of ownership.

@coreyballard 10 лет назад

Fisker Karma body with everything else the Model S, this car would be amazing.

@sbev16 11 лет назад

this is one of the best car reviews ive see on youtube, keep it up

@indramatic 11 лет назад

Being a reader of Car & Driver magazine for years I have always enjoyed Csaba Csere's reviews. And now I'm really enjoying his video presentations. Presentations are very coherent and offer a lot of interesting details. I'm very happy with subscription to your channel! Thank you.

@viraluser 11 лет назад

Well detailed honest and unbiased review, good job.

@K1nGn0THin 11 лет назад

BY FAR THE BEST REVIEWER E-V-E-R. PERIOD!!!

@JonasRosenven 11 лет назад

Thanks for the feedback, E. The car is quite an accomplishment. We don't hear a lot about Fisker in Denmark. I guess my country is too small for for a company like that to really make an impression but it is nice to see them making an impression abroad. We are only around 6 million people in Denmark so only a fraction of the population here would have the means to get a car like that. Best regards, Leo from Denmark

@nathanfay1988 11 лет назад

Csaba is probably the best car reviewer I've ever seen! There are a lot of amazing car reviewers out there, and while Jeremy Clarkson is very entertaining, I wouldn't ask him about buying a car for myself. Csaba's approach is to review a car more like a close friend of even a father (THIS IS A COMPLIMENT!!!!), and as a result I trust his reviews most of all. Please keep reviewing cars, you're awesome!

@alainl007 10 лет назад

The best report by Csaba Csere!! I like you test drive!! Well done!!

@HalidesAndHollowness 11 лет назад

Fantastic review guys, Only thing I would say is that this felt a little drawn out and the same thing was covered a couple of times, but I am really enjoying the thought and "class" that has gone into all of your newer reviews. Keep up the great work.

@MC-Racing 11 лет назад

nice review, and i certanally hope Fisker gets good sales. the car and Henrik deserves it. and how nice it is to hear Henrik talk with his ol' Danish accent :-D

@LASR71 11 лет назад

Thank you! I really enjoy C&D videos, very informative and interesting. One of my favourite suscriptions. Cheers!!

@Deathincart 11 лет назад

excellent review! lovin the videos

@alainl007 11 лет назад

Great tv show! Good quality! Thanks! Good job Casba!

@zackhenry1151 11 лет назад

very fair guy with his judgement i m a mechanic guy and i enjoy it.. thx for posting

@srick77373 5 лет назад

I recently had an opportunity to buy one for 30k so I did some research. This car will try to kill you. The exhaust comes out behind the front tires, so if you're idling in traffic you're sucking exhaust fumes. The batteries they used had faults in them and actually caused a few cars to catch fire.

@MegaBlairp 11 лет назад

I'm glad he recognized the impracticality of the car as it isn't as versatile as most cars need to be today. With a 28-35 mile range on electricity it's hardly making in impact for most people because the average daily commute to work (one way) in the US is approximately 20 miles. In huge cities where traffic increases and road accessibility decreases that number can rise to as high as 60. Which is why Csere said it best when he stated that this is a very particular car for a certain buyer

@sydjaguar 11 лет назад

Brilliant review

@yosuanizardon 11 лет назад

I saw this car in trafic the other day and it looked like something from the future by far one of the sexiest car I have ever seen.

@samirsmudge 9 лет назад

Again, such a thorough review.

@500features 11 лет назад

The next time you see one of these on the road, you can proudly say to yourself "I helped that guy to buy his car!'

@jster91 11 лет назад

Great reviews. Best on internet.

@habbathejut 11 лет назад

Solid review. Very informative and impartial!

@JonasRosenven 11 лет назад

Csaba Csere is without a doubt everything I could ever wish for in a car reviewer. He is just so professional and to the point. Nice job by the employee from Fisker too. I assume he was Danish. Being a dane I'm glad to see people putting in some effort when speaking a foreign language. The Fisker is a pretty impressive car. Without knowing all the facts I would say that the Tesla S so far looks far superior to the Fisker when pricing and performance is concerned though. Nice video!

@kelleredison 11 лет назад

Beautiful automobile! And I have a lot of respect for Mr. Csere, that's why when I watched this video and saw him taking both of his hands of the steering wheel for prolonged periods it really supprised me?! Csaba even you??? This is such a BAD example for young drivers and bad all around when piloting any automobile! I love cars, and it would seem that a lot of professional auto journalists practice this very bad habit? O.K., enough about that, great CAR and wonderful review Mr. Csere!

@GregLuft-ent 11 лет назад

Thanks for the great review!

@TheIrishCreamPuff 11 лет назад

Absolutely keep doing things like this

@tuolumne9 11 лет назад

Beautiful, stunning. Can't wait to drive it down the PCH

@EatmyDust1311 11 лет назад

I was genuinely scared to see Csaba driving this in the rain. These things explode when you get them wet.

@JanMichaelFranklin 11 лет назад

To me, the compromises would be worth riding around in something this special and beautiful. Also, if I have enough money to afford the Karma, I'd have something else for long trips. Awesome car, awesome review!

@14KShadow 11 лет назад

That one very very well designed interior, love it!

@grkvain 11 лет назад

Great review, thank you. Csere, from the drivers seat, which felt more like a drivers car? Fisker or the Tesla?

@albert4321234 11 лет назад

great review.

@soho7820 10 лет назад

Nice car but it has a hodgepodge of different cars thrown together. It looks lie a Corvette, Camaro, BMW, Dodge Viper, mixed together. This isn't to take anything away from the car and to those who like it. It's great that these guys are bringing us this stuff. The more they bring us and the more people buy the lower the price might become.

@munnjean 11 лет назад

Well we certainly are entitled to our respective opinions, my opinion ,,, this car is a long long away from being " ugly " as you put it. Seems like we are comparing cars ( according to your post ) I definately see a bit of Aston Martin and Mazda RX8 in the profile, never heard of anyone calling those cars " ugly ". But again it's all a matter of opinion and we should respect the right of others to form and post theirs. Great technology in a beautiful design, well done Mr. Fisker and crew !

@hossxxxx 11 лет назад

I think the Fisker Karma is absolutely gorgeous

@HesteBremse 11 лет назад

Yes i would like to see more reviews like this - i like it when it´s informative. Off course some variations is always good, but IMO some basics have to be covered unless the review/concept is different. Drama and fun is also good entertainment, but it´s very hard to pull off to great success, and many fail in this. So yes please more reviews like this ;)

@BState 11 лет назад

You are a really awesome Reviewer!

@JonasRosenven 11 лет назад

My bad..I apologize for my ignorance and meant no disrespect. What I meant by my comment should be read as my thumbs up for the car, the initiative behind it and the person presenting it in the video. Making a car on this level is by no means something to be belittled.

@TecnamTwin 11 лет назад

Tesla Model S Reading customer reviews from the Tesla and Fisker is like day and night. The Fisker Karma has too many compromises. Tesla is the future. Everyone should test drive one. It's awesome!

@cjoe42 11 лет назад

Thx for your reply! I was concerned about the batteries developing memory (like cellphone and laptop batteries) or in the case of lead acid batteries, my car's battery (sealed battery) gets changed out on average every 2-3 years. If these battery packs can last like you say, then full electric makes a lot of sense

@LASR71 11 лет назад

Thank you sir. This is the way comments should be made. I am tired of answering to commenters who tell other people they are morons because they disagree, I don´t answer to them. But certainly everyone has their own opinion and appreciations about cars. So thank you for a very polite expression of your opinion to another person´s comment. Some actual morons should learn from this, lol...

@TheEKELUB 11 лет назад

Makes me proud to be danish !

@my31and37 10 лет назад

Looked one over today....I'm no fan of electric cars at all, but this car is striking....quite beautiful even.

@misterterryb 11 лет назад

Excellent review! Ihaaker, I also would choose the Tesla Model S - don't you love the interior and this massive 17" screen? But one thing the Fisker has is a petrol engine. It's a hybrid as opposed to the all electric Tesla. This means that you can take the Fisker out for long distance drives which you really can't with the Tesla - at least for now, until Tesla installs their charging stations everywhere.

@TheMegaSine 11 лет назад

love love love love love this car.

@rcjFrankson 11 лет назад

The design is really cool... regardless of inviromental considerations, and maybe ergonomic short comings. All 4 door sudans, should look so good!

@poster7176 11 лет назад

Great review - I think it is also spot on on the Pros and Cons of this car - The only remarke i would say is that the center battery stack was not addressed. Having spent time i nthis car and other high end luxury cars, it is rather cumbersome. Tesla's horizontal stacking is much better, but then again Mr Fisker would know that considering he is the one that designed the tesla :) Well done. Keep them coming.

@fragoleconcrema 11 лет назад

What a wonderful sports car this is - yes the growling of a V12 and V10 is nice but THIS is the future. And the future looks very promising so far.

@IcyUpNorth 11 лет назад

Nice review, no fuzzing about, plain and simple. Just the way I like it. Tell me, has anyone asked Mr Fisker if, in a few years, we will see hydrogen Fiskers? I'm just wondering. Have a nice day!

@AJpro88 8 лет назад

i think this car is incredible

@eric29armstrong 11 лет назад

Did Fisker offer any information as to the considerations they took to improving efficiency through the external design of the car? Like drag coefficients, etc...Also, do big wheels like that improve efficiency or reduce it?

@JonasRosenven 11 лет назад

Based on the reviews and videos made by owners of the Fisker and the Tesla S so far I would absolutely agree with you. The Fisker's interface is supposed to be a little "glitchy" compared to the Tesla. They both look nice though.. Without knowing all the facts I would still say that the Tesla seems to be a more refined car. And who are we kidding :) almost three seconds faster from 0-60 even if you get the 20.000 dollar cheaper entry level Tesla. I know it's not a biggy but fast cars are fun.

@bortojo 11 лет назад

Great review of a stunning car. Though the one car I would see as the closest alternative to this was never mentioned. The Lexus LS hybrid.

@cadman10000 7 лет назад

It's laughable to watch this review a few years later. Right about the time this review was published the Model S was being shipped to customers......

@frazzle657 7 лет назад

Beautiful shape and the fact that it is responsible. But I'm not keen on the rear lights or the design of the lower front and rear bumper...

@MrDexter9i3 11 лет назад

What are the paddles on the steering wheel for?

@CaptainGSR 11 лет назад

Beautiful car!

@R4t10n4L 11 лет назад

Having watched quite a few extended reviews on both the Fisker Karma and the Tesla Model S, it's clear that the Model S is the superior car for anyone who doesn't need to drive more than a few hundred miles without stopping.

@ara101790 11 лет назад

Great review. This car certainly has style but that's about it for me. Just like you said, it's something people will buy to make a statement but retain luxury. I'd much rather have the Tesla Model S which is about half the price, easily outperforms this, and is 100% electric.

@CJAEY 11 лет назад

Personally, I like the Tesla Model S a lot more. Fisker Karma looks gorgeous no doubt but I think the Tesla Model S looks more clean and subtle. Not to mention it's amazing interior and crazy numbers it pulls.

@thadevon 11 лет назад

Excellent Review! I think the Karma is great. Perhaps the Karma 2.0 will address the deficiencies sited in Csaba Csere's comments??? ... I believe a new user interface and perhaps some sound suppression/isolation for the 2-liter engine might be among the first things to address. All things considered though... great first car for Fisker. I am excited for the Karma S (please build) and Atlantic.

@ivancedillo8 11 лет назад

I want one!!!

@ConstantXplorer 11 лет назад

I know they've had a few hiccups in the past but hopefully they've works out the kinks. But they're up against the Tesla S which I find incredible, so this electric/hybrid car war will be very interesting to watch in the near future. I hope both are able to stay alive, even bulldoze the conventional car market down a bit. I truly do believe electric/hybrid cars will be the wave of the future. I've becoming a fan of Fisker over time and wouldn't mind taking one out for a road trip; even a Tesla S

@bboggs36 11 лет назад

Best way to extend the life of these batteries is to charge them often to prevent them from going deep into their range or the charge less often. It sounds sort of the opposite of each other but both do the same thing really. You want to get to avoid the battery being constantly low. I don't know how long the Karma's battery will last but most of the bigger batteries in other EV's last (if properly maintained) 8 to 10 years so with this battery being smaller I'd think I'd last longer

@Janet71990 6 лет назад

The history of fisker car (2007-2014) for 7 years fisker founded in 2007 But is get defunct in 2014 R.I.P. fisker car (2007-2014).😞 🚘

@aminschmidt1429 5 лет назад

and now they are at it again FISKER E-Motion looks not as stunning, but has hopefully less flaws

@Krisiun111 11 лет назад

The Fisker employee was the founder and creator of Fisker and the Karma.

@giotiolga9554 10 лет назад

The best car.

@kulhumor7509 10 лет назад

Well, now that says a bit about your judgement now doesn't it? Most beautiful design on a car today...

@barath4545 11 лет назад

Technically a brilliant idea. Looks amazing, finally an aggresive looking car again, where the line after the front wheels sink before it rises again. But it shows electric+gas cars don't work cause this is probably the best you can do in that theme. Hydrogen is the future, cause charging takes too long and batteries weigh and arent green, even if charging can come from green nuclear power. The whole HF interview is brilliant, its well thought out, great work.

@maxgeek 11 лет назад

You could say the Model S is Tesla's first car too. The Tesla Roadster is a modified Lotus Elise. Lotus even made the Roadster chassis for Tesla. The Model S is first car fully designed and manufactured by Tesla. Fisker has made other cars before too, but they were just re-bodied luxury cars like BMW's 6 series and Mercedes SL's.

@yitboy11 11 лет назад

I know that the tesla is a more complete and better preforming car, but the fisker is such a better design. Fisker just makes gorgeous looking cars

@smiah1990 11 лет назад

@johannesskaun74 that "employee" you are referring to is actually the CEO of the company

@Volfbain 11 лет назад

Liked the review, but I was just wondering on your opinion on the fit and finish. I saw one in Las Vegas, and none of the exterior body panels seem to line up. Nonetheless, the most gorgeous 4dr sedan in the market today.

@HesteBremse 11 лет назад

It´s a good point but one have to remember that the Tesla is pure electric and this is a hybrid with a gaz engine. So in that regard they are actually not directly comparable. Also they do not aim at the exact same target groups. Henrik Fisker has said many times that he wants to create luxury and uniqueness - Which the Karma is. The Tesla S is very good looking car indeed, but it´s not directly a head tuner. Just as an example of TG: Karma ≈ Aston Martin Rapide | Tesla S ≈ BMW 5 series.

@JonasRosenven 11 лет назад

Hi hi. Now you are just being mean. Several people (me included) were just enjoying this video thinking that the car was actually really cool and stuff. I would normally consider statements like "GTR for the win" or "Porsche rules" and comments like that to be annoying and flag them for spam but.. I appreciate these cars for what they are and all. but.. Thank you for the wake up call :)

@lhaaker 11 лет назад

Great review! I just don't know why someone would choose this car over the Tesla Model S. In my opinion the only benefit that the Karma has over the Model S is its styling. The Karma is very good looking but that's about it.

@Oneness100 11 лет назад

I'm still a little on the fence about the 17 inch touch screen. I do like physical buttons and knobs because i can change things without looking at it. That's the drawback when changing a setting on a flat screen while driving. There is a technology by some small company that creates the feel of a button, knob, slider, etc. with touchscreens, but they haven't released those yet. It's still in the R&D stage and they are looking for companies that make mobile devices. That might be cool

@Oneness100 11 лет назад

I don't know if one can do this, but is it possible with the software to modify the 0-60 time in order to extend the battery life? I mean, if I had one, i would set it for 0-60 for 6 second instead of 4.3 seconds and if that extended the life 50+ miles, it would be worth it. I've driven cars in the 6 second range and never really used it to where i needed to really actually use that power available.

@rosteriperse 11 лет назад

Yep!

@videopalideo 11 лет назад

A man with a pen in his shirt pocket - the right man to review a sophisticated Plug-in-Hybrid.

@IRONBUB16 11 лет назад

hey were you guys in long beach friday? i seen the car parked while i was over there. cheers

@sylviofleurant4921 10 лет назад

Fabulous

@IIJayTUBEII 9 лет назад

this car is dope. future right here

@LandonInman 11 лет назад

nothing against the presenter, props for not puking at the sight of the car

@laminatechicken 11 лет назад

Such a cool car

@saucyp123 11 лет назад

Gotta give credit to Csaba for giving it such a well-balanced review, but I can't imagine why anyone would buy this car when the Tesla Model S exists.

@MrJoyride619 11 лет назад

Pros : Awesome Design both inside and out Cons : The Engineering My Opinion - Would have been amazing if this was a proper petrol sports car,could easily have given a run for their money to even the best of the German & English cars.Its a treat to the eyes.

@AllyTaylor1 10 лет назад

how much will it be if you make it chrome?

@ConstantXplorer 11 лет назад

YEAH! True they've only ended in mid 2012, but there may be some hope down the line. There was talks of reigniting the project with the company being bought by a German car maker. But it's doubtful they'll come back anytime soon. It really wasn't a bad car it just needed a lot of TLC concerning the business end and some of the electronics and drive train. I dunno I'm hopeful for these things.

@2487mpobor 10 лет назад

i love this car..... i love it

@Blushikami 11 лет назад

The car is designed and engineered in the U.S. but manufactured in Finland and shipped to the States.

@tillschwenke4380 11 лет назад

I like the interior, very nice work since i hate plastic. The lack of motor sound is bad but environment is more important. The Tesla S and Karma cant really be compared, because as said in the video the karma is more inbetween 2door coupe and 4door sedan , while the Tesla S clearly is a sedan

@thePussysniffer 10 лет назад

awesome car

@Oneness100 11 лет назад

The S model. Unfortunately, there is no location in my area and I'm not ready to purchase, but if I can swing it when I'm ready, I would have to drive one first and have some time to sit inside it. I'm normally used to driving Mercedes and I like the solid feel of Benz's, so if it has that solid feel when on the freeway, etc., that would be definite selling point. The 0-60 is great, but I don't think i'll ever need to push any faster than 0-60 in the 6 second range is PLENTY dangerous.

@silatube 11 лет назад

If you can plug in at work (and if you can afford a Karma, you probably can plug in at work...) a 35 mile "real world" range is fine for a 20 mile commute. I know a guy with a 40-some mile commute and normally gets all but about 2 or 3 miles in full-electric both ways, even though he drives from SF to Palo Alto via 280.