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Car Engine Oil In a Lawnmower? 'Explained' - Best Engine Oil & Lawnmower Oil 

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In this uniquely explained video I explain whether or not you can use car engine oil in a lawnmower.
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Using car engine oil in a lawnmower is a topic that often piques the curiosity of many homeowners who wonder whether they can use the same oil for both their vehicle and their lawnmower. While it might seem like a convenient idea, there are crucial differences between car engine oil and lawnmower oil that need to be addressed.
1. Viscosity and Additives: Car engine oil is designed to work under high-temperature, high-stress conditions in a vehicle's engine. It typically contains additives that help with cleaning, reducing friction, and handling high heat. On the other hand, lawnmower engines operate at lower temperatures and have simpler lubrication needs. Using car oil in a lawnmower may not provide the right viscosity for effective lubrication, potentially leading to engine damage.
2. Oil Change Intervals: Lawnmowers usually require more frequent oil changes compared to cars because they often operate in dusty environments and are used seasonally. Car engine oil, formulated for longer oil change intervals, may not be suitable for a lawnmower that requires more regular oil changes.
3. SAE Rating: Car engine oils carry an SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) rating that indicates their viscosity at high and low temperatures. Using an oil with a higher SAE rating meant for a car in a lawnmower may lead to poor engine performance or damage.
4. Lawnmower-Specific Oils: Manufacturers often recommend or sell specific oils for their lawnmower engines. These oils are designed to meet the requirements of smaller, air-cooled engines with simpler lubrication needs. It's usually best to use these recommended oils to ensure optimal lawnmower performance and longevity.
In conclusion, while it might seem tempting to use car engine oil in a lawnmower for convenience, it's not advisable due to differences in viscosity, additives, and maintenance needs. It's generally best to use the oil recommended by the lawnmower manufacturer to ensure proper lubrication and prevent any damage or performance issues.
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@jayrichardson5811
@jayrichardson5811 3 года назад
Great to see Phil Collins doing mower maintenance videos
@johndcoleman6037
@johndcoleman6037 3 года назад
I have used automotive engine oil in my push mower for years never had any issues from using it
@georgebroeren1617
@georgebroeren1617 2 года назад
Same here, Mower is 14 years young NO problems, ALWAYS ask for MSDS and spec sheets!
@waynesmith9765
@waynesmith9765 3 года назад
Just remember ANY oil is better than no oil. Always check oil level before starting.
@km4hr
@km4hr 2 года назад
Also any clean oil is better than dirty oil. I've always used whatever clean oil I have left over from the cars to change the oil in my mowers. They run forever.
@johndallis9901
@johndallis9901 2 года назад
@@km4hr clean or not use what you can better than nothing
@danteerskine7678
@danteerskine7678 2 года назад
@@johndallis9901 I use mineral 20w50, Sae 40, 15w40 and semi synthetic 10w40 motor oils in my petrol water pump and generator .I do the oil change at 50 hours than the recommended 100 hours, no problem though
@Richard-nd7qe
@Richard-nd7qe 3 месяца назад
For years mowers said in the manual to use sae30 but that was before they finally got around to printing new manuals. The new manuals say use 5w-30. I use a 5w40 diesel oil because it has more ZDDP than automotive oil and lawnmower engine have a flat tappet cam so the zddp is much better for it. I have a John Deere with Kawasaki engine got it new in 1986 38 YEARS and it is still going. 🤪
@JasonBeeneistheLordGod
@JasonBeeneistheLordGod 4 года назад
I use Castrol edge advanced full synthetic 10w30 in my push mower it has done really good.
@darrenupton5500
@darrenupton5500 4 года назад
I stick whatever oil i have left in the garage for my mowers. No problems.
@frankschwebel8605
@frankschwebel8605 3 года назад
Honda use a multigrade 20/50 and thats all i've ever used in all my small engines including briggs . I've never had any problems with premature wear or anything else .....
@waynesmith9765
@waynesmith9765 3 года назад
I have always run the same oil in my autos and lawn mowers and have had real good luck with both. The secret is to change mower oil at least once a year My current mower is 10 years old.
@jackrabbit7389
@jackrabbit7389 3 года назад
Lawn mower engines don’t care what oil they have as long as they have oil I run what ever I got on hand and never any problems
@tommak6516
@tommak6516 2 года назад
I am glad to see your comment, and I agree (unless it is some extreme condition). This youtube seems to overly complicate a simple thing.
@rudyvelamusic7599
@rudyvelamusic7599 2 года назад
All I needed to know!
@kirbyroad5743
@kirbyroad5743 3 года назад
Most push mowers sold today in the US recommend a multigrade 10w/30. Mowers of many years ago often used a straight weight sae 30 weight oil that was low foam formula because it is usually a splash lubrication system. Most mower oil will say low foam 10w/30 small engine oil.
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 3 года назад
Ok. Thanks.
@BlackhawkPilot
@BlackhawkPilot 3 года назад
A very good explanation based on oil grade. However, grade is not the issue, film strength is. Since I switched to M1 full (base stock 5) synthetic oil I have never had an oil related engine failure, auto or small air cooled single cylinder. Small air cooled engine temperatures rise dramatically when they lug down and work hard with less air flow because of lower RPM (a thermal gun reading on the head can show a 200 degree rise), e.g. my wood chipper branch after branch or my rototiller workin for hours with little letup, this is where film strength rules and synthetics are much better. Because of its far superior film strength and I use my equipment hard I use M1 0W 40.
@ahmedm6041
@ahmedm6041 Год назад
What an education about lawn mower oil and car motor oil with logic. They say when you explain something with logic it will make sense and stays in people's mind. Great job and you have gained a subscriber for your dedication and knowledge. Thank you!👍
@lmdetect
@lmdetect 4 года назад
My 16 and 22 year old push mowers say..... Yes you can, no problem.
@classicjay7786
@classicjay7786 4 года назад
Years don’t matter hours is what you want out of a lawnmower
@solarsynapse
@solarsynapse 4 года назад
What engines?
@jeffthomas1063
@jeffthomas1063 3 года назад
@@classicjay7786 Same from all engines, hours is always best to know. A car crawling along in high traffic with traffic jams will need service long before, known hours is critical.
@warrenpuckett4203
@warrenpuckett4203 3 года назад
If the engine uses less fuel to do the same work, it is usually a good thing. So for the break in did use a single grade,. When it was time to replace it. Had some left over 5W30. Immediately noticed it used less fuel. less fuel means less heat. Used 10W 40 in a 600cc sport cycle. It was not recommended. At 70,000 miles started looking into rebuilding it. But the big problem was could not get a shop to work on it for tuning and general maintenance when it hit 50,000. Still had the original clutches in it. Oh and when it was 120F (48C) I still rode it. I also still wore leathers with a water soaked sweatshirt under it. Works like a swamp cooler. Friction and heat are not combustion engine friends
@thangknowa3288
@thangknowa3288 2 месяца назад
I use Mobil 1 15w40 Syn Delvac Oil for diesel engines in all my small engines, more protection than any other oil on the planet. Big diesel turbo engines run long and hard, in extreme heat and conditions, and the additives in this oil allows them to do it. Get it in gallon jugs at Walmart, priced about the same as other Mobile one Synthetic Oils (In 5 quart jugs), And be done with it. Far superior to other car engine oils, it meets and exceeds!
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 2 месяца назад
Awesome. Thank you for letting us know. Craig
@orange6092
@orange6092 8 месяцев назад
Great video, very informative!!! Number one rule, oil level. Number two rule, clean oil. Just about everything else is up for debate. I've never heard of a mower self destructing because of the wrong oil, I have seen many destroyed from low, or worn out oil. I try to stick with a straight 30 weight, but have used just about every other option the past 50 years with zero issues.
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 8 месяцев назад
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@dfields9511
@dfields9511 4 месяца назад
Yah, I have used hd30,SAE30 no issues And 10w30, 10w40 and. 20w50. No problems I suppose 15w40 would also work It’s better than no oil .
@Sasser2015
@Sasser2015 Месяц назад
I'm glad you took a bit more time so that I leave this video with an understanding (as opposed to just an answer). Great explanation.
@lotus956
@lotus956 Год назад
My Honda lawnmower engine says 10w30. Guess I’ll just do what it says.
@MidwestOptimist
@MidwestOptimist 5 месяцев назад
Automobile oil is DETERGENT oil. Meant to suspend deposits to be taken up by the OIL FILTER. A PUSH MOWER HAS NO OIL FILTER...
@jessebunker6062
@jessebunker6062 10 месяцев назад
Most( but not all) lawnmower engines are air cooled, not liquid cooled. So automotive engine oils are not meant for the higher temperature. Small engine oils have ZDDP, or some other additive. Always go by the manufactures recommend oil.Machining tolerances are much different today than fifty years ago.
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 10 месяцев назад
Great point!
@dietermeyer9231
@dietermeyer9231 Год назад
A manual will state that you shall use oil according to ambient temperature. My mower can handle SAE 10W to 40 (single) and 10W30 to 20W50 (multi). It all depends on ambient temperature. A 10w30 works from -20 degrees C and up to 32 degrees C. A 10w40 works from -20 degrees C and to above 40 degrees C. In hot areas I would go for a 10W40, 20W40 or a 20w50. A single 30 will work from 10 degrees C to 32 degrees C and a 40 will work from 25 degrees C to above 40 degrees C.
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist Год назад
Thank you for sharing this valuable information about choosing the right oil for a small lawnmower based on ambient temperature. Your detailed explanation is incredibly helpful for maintaining our lawnmowers properly, and I appreciate you taking the time to provide these insights. It's clear you have a good grasp of the topic, and your contribution is greatly appreciated. Cheers to a well-maintained lawnmower and happy mowing! Craig
@peachsncream5808
@peachsncream5808 Год назад
Recommendation from 40 + temperature’s please 👣🦘 🥵
@mikec4616
@mikec4616 3 года назад
I use 15w40 if its good enough for a diesel cat engine it should protect my 3.5hp briggs
@mikec4616
@mikec4616 3 года назад
@@NUTZJ98 when hot it protects up to a 40 weight
@klardfarkus3891
@klardfarkus3891 3 года назад
Car oil is all people used in lawnmowers.
@dmaschy599
@dmaschy599 Год назад
I use S A E 30,IF YOU CHANGE YOUR OIL REGULARLY YOU SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEMS. .
@stefanr.3495
@stefanr.3495 5 месяцев назад
My 1991 Honda HR1950 says any oil better than no oil, I'll take it! However, it does say 10w30 covers all climates, and 10w40 for prolonged use.
@ronaldmasterbud1551
@ronaldmasterbud1551 2 года назад
Very Well Explained, My Grandfather Worked for Texaco His Entire Working Life, ( Except for Two Wars. WWII, & Korea ) as An Lubrication Engineer. And He Primarily did Field Evaluation of Company Equipment ( End User ) Evaluation Sampling Colection and Testing, To Report to Company Headquarters Performance, & Failure Evaluation. He Used to Tell Me The Tests Performed on New Formulations. Truly Incredible The Money Spent on Testing. As a Side Note, as I Was Getting My A&P/ Engineering Degree. The Story of One of My Teachers Recount of a Bombing Missions in Germany as A Captain of A B-25 and There 5 Hour Return Flight With 0% Oil in Either Engine, Solely Relying on Residual Film Strength. After Crossing The English Channel, Bellied it in The First Comparable Farmers Field. And Waited for The Farmer To Take Him to The nearest US Military Base. All That Was Salvageable On That B-25 was the 50 cal Machine Guns and the Norden Bomb Sight.
@garybrown9719
@garybrown9719 3 месяца назад
Straight 30
@brarbrat5354
@brarbrat5354 4 года назад
I m toyota mechanic any car oil can use any lawnmover i m useing 0w20 sonce 7 year no issue performance best high fuel economy
@tempestv8
@tempestv8 3 года назад
All depends on what your lawn mower manual says the permissible oil SAE can be, which is usually dependent on operating ambient temperatures.
@martinschulz9381
@martinschulz9381 3 года назад
There are variables here. Air cooled engines tend to run hotter than liquid and straight 30 weight won't thin out like multi weight. In warmer temp areas 30 weight is better. In moderate temp areas 10W30 is fine. Small engine oil has different API classifications and generally has more zinc anti wear additive among other things than auto oil. Small engine oil is readily available every in hardware or home store. Why not just use what you're suppose to?
@doctorboy5892
@doctorboy5892 Год назад
Because 5w 30 is all there is in the garden shed. It is left over from when you changed the engine oil in the car of your wife's new boyfriend.
@martinschulz9381
@martinschulz9381 Год назад
@@doctorboy5892 I didn't mean to slam the video, just saying. A lot of guys put their favorite auto oil in their small engines when there's small engine oil available in the same store.
@doctorboy5892
@doctorboy5892 Год назад
@@martinschulz9381 True.
@michaelatchison2325
@michaelatchison2325 5 месяцев назад
Most people don’t mow when it’s freezing outside. So the W number doesn’t really matter.
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 5 месяцев назад
Absolutely, I agree. I was just saying that if you have some oil left over from one application then you can use it for another if you have a particular oil to do so. Thanks for your comment
@Believe_the_Bible
@Believe_the_Bible 3 дня назад
Very well explained. Thank you. Our tractor mower engine does calls for sae 30 but I think a full synthetic 10w-30 would be better, no?
@asafarifard
@asafarifard 3 года назад
Hi, thanks for your video. Actually in my case car oil is cheaper. I buy 5L 5w-30 castrol for $15 Canadian which normally 1L of small engine oil is about $5 to $7.
@thatdude8247
@thatdude8247 3 года назад
Same here.... Cheapest sae30 is $5+ can get 5qt jugs for under $20
@tommak6516
@tommak6516 2 года назад
These small engines are simple and have sloppy tolerances. You could probably use the drain oil from your car and it would be ok.
@m.g.540
@m.g.540 Год назад
Very good explanation on oil for the small engine, though most failures on small engine are not due to incorrect oil but lack of oil!, a lot of people seem to think these engines do not need any maintenance and just run forever without attention, if it fails, then off to the big box store for another lawn mower, they think putting fuel in it is all it needs.
@surg9029
@surg9029 Год назад
I worked my way through college as a mechanic on a golf course working on everything from small engines to bulldozers. The greens mowers used 16hp Kohler engines lubricated by splash from a dipper on the end of the connecting rod, and they worked hard and ran hot. The recommended oil was 10w30 and I would get about 800 hours service. Changing to straight 30 oil for diesels extended the life to 1600-1800 hours.
@peachsncream5808
@peachsncream5808 Год назад
I might have miss understood something here 🤔 .As iv never seen a ride on mower recommendation. For a variable weight engine oil . Nor have I seen a single weight Diesel engine oil for sale in stores . That’s why I think I might be miss understanding your comment ? Unless it’s because I’m in Australia and the engine oil’s are different due to our generally warmer weather conditions ? Can you set me straight please , thanks 👣🦘
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 Год назад
It’s a hundred in West Texas and I’ve used 20w 50 Castro oil for 60 years
@allenm00
@allenm00 8 месяцев назад
I normally mow my yard when it is -40C/-40F so I prefer to use 0W-30
@85therealdeal
@85therealdeal 7 месяцев назад
Where do you live?
@peteross4293
@peteross4293 5 месяцев назад
i get oil from a local garage.he drains his qt jugs into a gal jug. all different weights of oil. works good so far
@donaldlee6760
@donaldlee6760 3 года назад
Do small engines experience wear mostly on starting? If yes, then wouldn't a lower viscosity cold rating (the first number in a multi-viscosity oil) be preferred to single-weight oil because the small engine could theoretically last longer. Here in the USA, 5w-30 oil is often less expensive than a 30-weight oil because multi-weight oil goes on sale on Amazon so often.
@BrianKeithPREPPER
@BrianKeithPREPPER Год назад
I would say in theory yes, it would make more since to have better lubrication
@andy24730
@andy24730 6 дней назад
A very good video, but.... A 5w 30 oil has the viscosity of a sae5 oil when cold, but the protection of a sae30 oil when at operating temperature. A 5w 30 oil will always be thinner or less viscous than a sae30 oil.
@CookiePepper
@CookiePepper 3 года назад
You don't mow in the winter is the reason why SAE-30 is ok for lawn mower.
@MrSGL21
@MrSGL21 3 года назад
no yankee YOU don't mow in the winter. not everyone lives where it sucks 6 months of the year.
@tempestv8
@tempestv8 3 года назад
What do snow blowers specify for their engine oil requirements? Sincere question, as I don't live where it snows.
@aphtonyjim
@aphtonyjim 29 дней назад
Excellent explanation 👍
@tonymontana897
@tonymontana897 3 года назад
Thank you very much for this excellent video. It's one of a very few on here that actually makes sense. Question. I have ride on tractor mowers and it has been said to use oils with detergents, high zinc and phosphorus for better wear protection. Some have even resorted to using diesel oils which have all these properties. if I use a diesel formulation 5W-30 would this then be the ultimate oil to use ? The engines I have are both Kohler engines. One is a Command 17.5 Hp and the other is a 25Hp Courage (SV-730). My Courage engine recently found with one bent pushrod. Not sure why. Am Still waiting for new parts to arrive and then do a full investigation.
@kd5byb
@kd5byb 4 года назад
Absolutely correct and another great explanation! (I'm a mechanical engineer with some background in tribology.) I've subscribed. Some folks say that car oils may have too low of a zinc content for small engines, but one also must consider that small engine valve spring tension isn't all that high, so the force of the tappets on the camshaft is no where near what it is in an flat-tappet automobile engine...so car-levels of zinc should be fine...and my 23 year old Kohler CV12.5 in my Deere lawn mower agrees! :) Can't believe with such high-quality content you're only at 45k subscribers.
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 4 года назад
Wow. Thank you so much for your nice comment with such detail. Its comments like yours from skilled professionals like yourself that motivate me to continue to make these videos. Thanks again. Craig
@Largent13
@Largent13 3 года назад
Ya...the engine manufacturers say that...this is why we mechanics can't stand engineers when it comes to what happens to the product outside of a lab...you absolutely need the zinc in your air cooled engine...
@graybeard2113
@graybeard2113 3 года назад
Yeah, I've used Mobil1 in my 1997 22hp Kohler V-twin 50" cut Garden tractor. Only the Good Lord knows how many hours are on it. Used on a ranch, year round. Still doesn't require any oil adds between changes.
@danteerskine7678
@danteerskine7678 2 года назад
@@TheRepairSpecialist dude, your video miss some of the crucial information about the ambient temperature where the mower is used. Maybe in the US, the 30 w oils are a standard but for the rest of the world, its the 40w which dominates. Of course in a cool climate, you can use a 30w engine oil but in a warm climate where the temperature barely goes under 21 degrees, a 20w50, Sae 40 or a 15w40 is recommended for better heat dissipation and better film strength
@coopercruse5867
@coopercruse5867 3 года назад
As a mechanic for over 40 years I can give you this tip , ANY oil is better than NO oil. Its that simple . Dont believe me drain it and run it see how long it lasts.
@jamese9283
@jamese9283 3 года назад
My friend did that with Slick 50 (forgot to refill after changing), and drove it for 2 days no damage.
@coopercruse5867
@coopercruse5867 3 года назад
@@jamese9283 And he never seen the oil light illuminated or the oil gauge at 0 and the rattling coming from the engine. ? He may think there was no damage but I can assure you he certainly reduced the life of that engine overall.
@jamese9283
@jamese9283 3 года назад
@@coopercruse5867 Yes, likely unseen damage, but he drove the car for a looong time after that, 10 years?, and the engine was still going. He had just rebuilt the engine and forgot the oil. Absent minded to not see the guages and rattling. Yes, a terrible thing to do, would normally trash the engine. A crazy story, maybe a miracle. EDIT: Not 10 years...just found out it was sold shortly after that. Likely had some damage.
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 3 года назад
I've always used 10W-40 in my older engines, and 10W30 in my newer engines. I just look for the "SN" API classification, because air cooled engines tend to get hotter than liquid cooled engines, particularly when ran at or near full load. I don't bother with the expensive synthetic or other premium oil, since it has to be changed too often to take advantage of the better sheer viscosity breakdown or thermal breakdown properties of the better oils. These engines have no oil filter, and will contaminate the oil, no matter how good it is.
@MrSGL21
@MrSGL21 3 года назад
i would have agreed with you 4 months ago but not now. i bought a used snapper rer with a 12.5 briggs intek. someone had changed the oil before i bought it and i didn't realize it was fresh oil when i drained it. i replaced that oil, which i'm positive was sae 30, with 10w30 amsoil small engine oil. that was back the middle of May. i've been mowing every week since then except for a couple of times i went two weeks, but that just means i had to mow slower and the engine worked harder and longer, and i shit you not, no lie, the oil has not changed color AT ALL. i mean its clear. i just assembled a woodchipper this evening from amazon and when i filled its crank case i used the left over oil and put it in the snapper. i checked the snapper and the oil was still clear. i've got atleast 10 hours on that oil. its clear. its barely amber and looked like it came out of the bottle. usually oil starts browning immediately especially in a small air cooled engine. not this one. i dunno if its this motor or if its the oil. i'll find out eventually but i'll be dammed this oil is not breaking down at all.
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 3 года назад
@@MrSGL21 Your used Snapper mower engine is broken in. If it has a good air filter, and the fuel/air mixture is right, oil can look pretty good for a pretty long time. The engine isn't putting much contamination into the oil to filter out in the first place. When an engine reaches that point, I just recommend changing the oil each season, knowing that the engine will likely out-last the mower.(unless the mower is used in commercial service)
@km4hr
@km4hr 2 года назад
@@MrSGL21 One function of oil additives is to keep contaminants suspended (ie mixed with the oil) until it can be removed either by a filter or by an oil change. If oil is used to long the additives get used up. The oil then runs clear again because the additives are shot. Guess what happens to the contaminants.
@900stx7
@900stx7 2 года назад
@@km4hr I have a Kawasaki engine on a twenty plus year old John deere push mower. I change the oil yearly and check the oil every time before I use it. The oil has always been clear, even when I change it. It's definitely not "shot". I've owned lots of small engines and this is the only one that didn't have the oil turn black after a couple hours of use. The engine still runs great, doesn't burn any oil, doesn't smoke, even when I start it .
@briantii
@briantii Год назад
@@MrSGL21I’ve been changing mine a lot on my newer machines and getting all the breakin gunk out seems to yield very clean oil. On my Honda mowers and on my Yamaha golf cart this seems to hold true.
@CALVINLNIKONT
@CALVINLNIKONT 4 года назад
Honda recommends a regular 10W-30 oil for their lawnmowers. They told me that they have not finished testing using synthetic oils.
@norge696
@norge696 4 года назад
Using synthetic isn't going to hurt anything. If anything it will decrease wear.
@Monza62000
@Monza62000 3 года назад
@@norge696 all i use in all my cars an mowers for years,, syn is better
@MrSGL21
@MrSGL21 3 года назад
@@Monza62000 you can't hardly buy non synthetic oils now. i was in walmart tonight and all they had for car oils were synthetic and synthetic blends, no conventional except for straight weight 30.
@Grahams-Grass
@Grahams-Grass 3 года назад
Not sure about the sae 30 being cheaper??? The cheapest I've found 5litre =£17.95 Been picking up Car oil 5litre £8-£10 .. .... so I just use car oil ..
@turboslag
@turboslag 3 года назад
I don't think the mutigrade viscosity explanation is quite correct. Taking your example, 5w30, 5w refers to the viscosity at 0 degrees C, as in , freezing point of water. 30 is the viscosity at 100 degrees C. And the oil doesn't become thicker at high temperature, it just reaches a comparitive viscosity to that when it is cold. Actually, the main reason that 30 grade oil is advised for use in small horticultural engines is historic. Typically, many decades ago, the types of engine in question had no or very little in the way of oil filters. So, the oils used had no detergency. This allowed combustion deposits and particulates to settle out and sit at the bottom of the crankcase when the engine was not in use. Then, when operation was resumed the lack of detergency in the oil would leave the deposits undisturbed and not circulate in the oil, thus causing accelerated wear etc. The problem that could then occur is if the oil used changed to a detergent multigrade later in that engines life, this would cause the deposits to be diluted and carried into circulation, which cause wear and sludge formation in the engine. So, now we are in the modern era of high performance lubricants, there is no reason not to use multigrades in small engines, as long as they are run from new on such oils, thus allowing the oil to do its job. In fact, modern multigrades will be much superior to old spec single grade 30 and give the engine much longer working life. I have a Honda HR 194 mower, which is now in it's 4th decade, this has run on 10w40 since I bought it new all those years ago and is still in perfect running order. Starts as soon as the rope is pulled, no smoke, no excessive engine noise, no oil consumption. I just change the oil at the start of the season and it just keeps going. And the owners manual does specify the use of multigrades, with a chart according to prevailing temperature.
@ttreviews8317
@ttreviews8317 14 дней назад
brigg and stratton il all lawnmover engine, flathead, and gts series, report in the manual to use 10w40 in hot region and 5w30 in the cold.
@rayowens4355
@rayowens4355 3 года назад
I use supertech 10w30 full synthetic (Walmart brand) in my 19.5 hp Briggs & Stratton powered Poulan Pro rider. It has over 900 hrs on it and it runs as good now as it did when it was new.
@Hamza-ek8xy
@Hamza-ek8xy 3 года назад
Does it have special additives. I used Castrol edge full synthetic on my husqvarna and I think it’s overheating due to the additives.
@waylonmccrae3546
@waylonmccrae3546 3 года назад
900 hours ?? That's phenomenal ..... usually at 550 hrs. They are about worn out !! 🙂👍🏻
@rayowens4355
@rayowens4355 3 года назад
@@Hamza-ek8xy do you run it at full throttle? Air cooled mower engines will tend to run hotter at less than full throttle.
@Hamza-ek8xy
@Hamza-ek8xy 3 года назад
@@rayowens4355 yes I do
@rayowens4355
@rayowens4355 3 года назад
@@Hamza-ek8xy i have not had any issues with mine running noticeably hot with the supertech oil. I wonder if yours could be running a little too lean? Or possibly blocked air flow?
@billybongthornton4285
@billybongthornton4285 Год назад
I use 10w30 car oil for lawnmowers can't find sae 30 so I use car oil
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist Год назад
Ok. Thanks for letting us know
@berardia4
@berardia4 4 года назад
One point is if using the mower below 50degF manufacturers recomend mulitigrade oil.
@tommak6516
@tommak6516 2 года назад
50 F is nothing, maybe get below 10 or 20 F and start considering it.
@wbwills2
@wbwills2 4 месяца назад
“NO OIL CHANGE REQUIRED “is a LARGE decal that TORO put on FRONT & CENTER of plastic engine shroud,ontheusedmower I purchased.THOUGHTS ANYONE? I have 1…the person responsible for that decision should receive some “LOVE”!ZERO LUBRICANT OF COURSE (they obviously prefer it that way after all)People.!.!.???model #20378.
@XxTWMLxX
@XxTWMLxX Год назад
Have a over 30 year old mower burns no oil. And iv always used car oil or whatever I have. 5w30 10w30. Even put atv 10w40 0w50 in it. main thing is just regular changes and it's all good.
@alb12345672
@alb12345672 5 месяцев назад
My briggs and stratton manual from 2002 (this is a twin opposed motor) says under 40deg F, do not use SAE 30, but 5W30, synthetic preferred. Says engine damage could happen
@davidleatherneck
@davidleatherneck Год назад
Hmmm. Well, now take into consideration the extra cooling/lubricating needed for AIR COOLED Engines like Motorcycles and V Twin mowers. There is a reason Kolar, Kawasaki, Brigs and others have specialty Oils for Air Cooled engines. A car/truck has a water filled radiator to cool the engine. Mowers and Scooters have no water filled radiator, with the exception of a couple. Special formulated Oils are required for air cooled engines. Regular oils get way too hot. If you want the warrantee to be good, use the correct oil. Thanks.
@cameronsimonton2515
@cameronsimonton2515 Месяц назад
Well done 🍻
@voyageur0128
@voyageur0128 Месяц назад
Lawn mower engines are actually very resilient. Therefore, it's not that cut dry if you ever use sae 40 instead of 30.
@JoshKilen
@JoshKilen 3 года назад
very nice video, does this info apply to horizontal shaft engines too? like a Briggs, Honda, and a predator. what about a yanmar single cylinder diesel?
@cc8530
@cc8530 3 года назад
are your eyes painted on? the video clearly showed the answer to your question. you’re just going to have to get off your ass and watch it all the way through. you’re welcome
@JoshKilen
@JoshKilen 3 года назад
@@cc8530 no my eyes are not painted on. Small diesel engines are different animal when it comes to engine oil. Same thing with horizontal they have a different lubrication setup even though they are splashed lubricated or pressure lubricated. It is it honest question, so please think before you harass people with a honest question.
@covinhas87
@covinhas87 2 года назад
My car takes about 4.4L of oil. So the remaining is just enough for the lawnmower. Otherwise it would be wasted. Thanks for the great video.
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 2 года назад
Thank you👍
@curtismay8323
@curtismay8323 Месяц назад
If your lawn mower doesn't have an oil filter you need to put non-detergent oil in it if you don't it's going to clean your mower motor and all that junk that's collected on the side of the walls is going to be run through your bearings?
@armadillotoe
@armadillotoe Год назад
I have an OLD lawnmower. I used synthetic 10w30 in it for the last few years. I have noticed I have more old seeping through the gaskets than with 30w conventional oil. I believe the synthetic oil cleaned everything better and exposed micro leaks in the old gaskets.
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist Год назад
Ok good. Thank you for contribution 👍
@johndavidwolf4239
@johndavidwolf4239 Год назад
There is no such thing as 30W oil.
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist Год назад
Very true. I assumed he meant SAE 30.
@RetroCaptain
@RetroCaptain 3 месяца назад
With small engines, there is no oil filter, so Non Detergent oil is used as it allows the soot and particles to fall to the bottom vs automobile engine which has a paper filter so Detergent Multi grade is used to keep the soot and particles in suspension and be trapped in the filter media I have seen equipment still running okay with the wrong lubricant and even chemicals that were not oil. Something slippery.
@markleggett3944
@markleggett3944 3 месяца назад
Twin cylinder engines with full pressure lubrication in larger equipment should absolutely used multi- grade oil'
@NONAME-kw3pu
@NONAME-kw3pu Год назад
20-50 motor oil for HOT HOT HOT running air "cooled" engines in SUMMMMERS HEAT that turns oil to water in 5 mins of running. change it every 20 hours or so depending on dust for ppl that get NO rain for MONTHS. water cooled engines live longer cuz they run cooler with thermostat that keeps the motor at 180* or so. air "cooled" engines run HOT HOT HOT, depending on how hot it is outside.. 109* in SUMMMERs
@dennisclapp7527
@dennisclapp7527 2 месяца назад
Thanks Repair Specialist
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 2 месяца назад
Thank you also 👍👍👍
@tonycolca2241
@tonycolca2241 3 месяца назад
I use high zinc racing oil in my lawnmower air cooled engines run a lot hotter than water cooled car engine. Also in the last so many years the zinc has been cut back in car oil to keep from damaging the catalytic converter.
@vincentferrara5032
@vincentferrara5032 2 года назад
I've been using car oil for yrs never had any problems
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 2 года назад
In all fairness, I know a lot of people like you who have never had a problem. I had to go with manufacturers recommendations for the video. Thank you for your feedback.
@jjammy1007
@jjammy1007 3 года назад
I’ve just bought some Halfords “garden engine oil 10w 40. Can I use that for my lawnmower? Why advertise it as garden engine oil if it’s no good?
@garofalo1707
@garofalo1707 3 года назад
Yes you can use it with no worries.
@instructionaldesigner7310
@instructionaldesigner7310 Год назад
In my area (suburban USA) a quart of Walmart multi-grade car oil is cheaper than Briggs and Stratton or Kohler mower oil. In fact the mower oils are usually pints not quarts. I have always wondered if the multi grade oil is too viscous and splashes too much to get to the passage ways in the small engines
@M3rVsT4H
@M3rVsT4H 2 года назад
Just thought I'd share, Downunder where the price gouging is real. For my whole adult life "Mower" oil has been a specialty product. And so by way of it's lower shelf profile and the economies of scale, it can routinely cost 4x that of any 30 weight multigrade on special at your local discount auto place. So a lot of Aussies use cheap car oil in small engines against the insistent advice of people who sell boutique single grade oil for outrageous prices.
@gilpicard6024
@gilpicard6024 4 года назад
If your in a consistently warmer climate you can always use straight 30.
@JA-rn5qv
@JA-rn5qv 4 года назад
Just be careful that it still has detergents in it because many 30W oils are the non-detergent type.
@WeSRT4
@WeSRT4 3 года назад
What if I told you that Mobil 1 15w50 was far superior for small air cooled engines? For that matter a cheap 15w40 diesel engine oil works great as well.
@MrSGL21
@MrSGL21 3 года назад
seems like it would be too thick especially in the winter time. that and mobile1 is kinda of a mediocre oil these days.
@mikemechanic8636
@mikemechanic8636 3 года назад
@@MrSGL21 Since when is Mobil 1 full synthetic oil become mediocre? It fills most new sports car engines and is the OEM recommended oil! I think you're mistaken.
@johnmurphy40
@johnmurphy40 Год назад
A more simple explanation is 5W-30 oil is it is always a 5 weight oil all the time, winter or summer with the lubricating qualities of a 30 weight . that's it period
@JohnR9965
@JohnR9965 Год назад
No mention of the additional additives that are in small engine oil that’s not in automotive oils. Zinc etc. Plus thermal breakdown is quicker using automotive oils in small engines. For those who want longer life of a mower or small engine.
@japojo1958
@japojo1958 3 года назад
Actually, here in Canada, 5-30W oil is much cheaper than lawnmower oil. Craig, what about the fact that auto engine oils have detersives in them and are designed to be operated with an oil filter? Is this truth or fiction?
@dbarr8261
@dbarr8261 Год назад
My manual says to use multi grade oil😊
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist Год назад
Ok
@RockyTopSplash
@RockyTopSplash 3 года назад
Wow.. I never thought I'd getting mechanical tips from Phil Collins! I did though and turns out hes GREAT and the video presentation was AWESOME! Thanks you.. I'll be back
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 3 года назад
😂 Phil Collins. Thank you for your nice feedback. Craig
@frankartieta4887
@frankartieta4887 Год назад
I run across a deal I could not pass up ! On 4 stroke outboard engine oil Like 7 dollar a gallon on closeout I just keep my mower away from the sea It does not know it not a outboard and I am not going to tell
@carlosargoncillo
@carlosargoncillo 4 года назад
Great explanation.. thanks for making this video..
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 4 года назад
My pleasure. Thank you for your nice feedback. Craig
@Wesleymalott-yu1tg
@Wesleymalott-yu1tg Год назад
The only problem with My lawn mower is Is that it would make smoke Sometimes die But it was just turned back on
@thepatriot4355
@thepatriot4355 3 года назад
I have the craftsman T240 with Kohler KT725 22 horsepower 725cc V Twin Engine I use Castrol Advanced full Synthetic oil the craftsman loves it
@666dynomax
@666dynomax 20 дней назад
I should probably not use 0w20 synthetic but i do
@IIGrayfoxII
@IIGrayfoxII 9 месяцев назад
I always have leftover from my car oil changes. I buy a 5liter bottle of 5w-30 and my car takes about 4.3liters, that leaves 700mL for either topups(which I do not need as my car does not burn oil) so may as well use that 700mL of oil on the mower.
@gureno19
@gureno19 2 года назад
It's a lawn mower....unless it's a super expensive cylinder mower. Car oil is fine for the average rotary mower with a mass produced Briggs and Stratton on it.
@Wesleymalott-yu1tg
@Wesleymalott-yu1tg Год назад
For some reason it was Blue to And I put it in my lawn mower and it just made a bunch of smoke and then the smoke stop and I went to normal
@astrataway7077
@astrataway7077 3 года назад
I put lawn mower oil in my Maserati for like 30 years don't know what the fuk you talking about m8
@EagerMartialArts-cl7vd
@EagerMartialArts-cl7vd 4 месяца назад
Regular car oil is low in zddp. Use a small engine oil in the correct weight.
@DJHITMAN29
@DJHITMAN29 4 года назад
Hello! First of all I'd like to say that watching this video gave me a much better understanding about how oils work and why there are different numbers on each container. The viscosity change information was invaluable! What I'd like to ask, is if my Amsoil 10W-30 Full Synthetic MOTORCYCLE OIL will work in my push mowers. One is powered by a 223cc Briggs & Stratton and the other is powered by a 160cc Honda. The container states that this is a High performance engine and transmission lubricant. There are of course API and GL numbers on the back. Not sure if you need that information to answer my question. I've wanted to go to a synthetic from the regular SAE30 since I bought the mowers but want to make sure I do not do any damage to my engines. Amsoil does of course make a 10W-30 100% Synthetic oil specifically designated for small engines but will it make a difference? I have 5 or 6 quarts of the motorcycle oil on hand which is another reason I'm asking. Thank you very much for your time and your informative content! Ken aka The Lawn Ninja! ;)
@tommak6516
@tommak6516 2 года назад
Use whatever the owners manual/manufacturer instructs you to use. Are you trying to reinvent the wheel? Do you think these RU-vid experts know more than the manufacturer?
@billdeblaey6078
@billdeblaey6078 2 месяца назад
I use a straight SAE 30 wt in my Briggs 6HP Toro walkbehind. It's about 25 years old. Bought it recently and gave it an extensive service. Changed the oil 2X immediately with a few oz of Marvel Mystery Oil. I found that the MMO helped it run smoother and also helped clean the accumulated crud out of the engine. Use 10W30 in my Honda GCV 160 with a splash of MMO. Snagged this Craftsman off a tree lawn last Fall and serviced it. Runs very smooth and always starts on the first pull.
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 2 месяца назад
Wow. Awesome. Thank you for letting us know. I really appreciate it. Craig
@stevenbailey-su3li
@stevenbailey-su3li 3 месяца назад
Can I use 0W 40, recommendations are SAE10W 30
@Tom-ic7hw
@Tom-ic7hw 3 месяца назад
all I know is I use briggs brand 30 w in my snapper and its 25 years old
@flathead2397
@flathead2397 3 года назад
My 3 year old cub cadet 24 hp twin cylinder Kohler. This uses a oil pump full flow system with a oil filter and I use shell rotella 10w-30 t-4, for heavy duty use, contains zinc to reduce wear. I like it cause it works hard and I like the best, so I feel spend a little extra and it will serve you well for years to come. Note the rotella t-4 is used in diesel engines. I hope this helps someone with an engine that's using oil.
@Bill-sp8kb
@Bill-sp8kb Год назад
Some air-cooled motorcycle engines, such as Harley Davidson, use a heavy grade, multi viscosity oil, like 20 w 50, 60. This is because these are roller - bearing engines.
@SibRevs
@SibRevs 4 года назад
Great explanation! Best video on RU-vid about this subject.
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 4 года назад
Wow, thanks!
@williamwaters4506
@williamwaters4506 3 месяца назад
Use what the manufacturer recommends. It is that simple.
@Dark_Sun_Gwyndolin
@Dark_Sun_Gwyndolin 3 года назад
now, a topic for another video : can I use car engine spark plug in my lawnmover ???
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 3 года назад
Nice one. I'm on it
@Dark_Sun_Gwyndolin
@Dark_Sun_Gwyndolin 3 года назад
@Matthew Moore That's my goal. Thx 4 info m8 ! :)
@kramnull8962
@kramnull8962 3 года назад
@@Dark_Sun_Gwyndolin Video after the spark plug vid. Can scrap metal laying around the garage be melted down to make a replacement piston...
@livenfree
@livenfree 3 года назад
@Matthew Moore I found a spark plug cross reference chart and my 1999 Mercury Villager spark plug fit and worked just fine in my 5 hp briggs and Stratton engine. The longth was identical! Definitely check to make sure their the same length!
@abdulwasihabdulsalam4084
@abdulwasihabdulsalam4084 2 года назад
Tq 4 the information🙏😀👍
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 2 года назад
Thank you for your nice comment. I really appreciate it. Craig 👍
@tonymontega2559
@tonymontega2559 Год назад
Thank you so much !! You explained this perfectly!!!!
@magicone9327
@magicone9327 4 месяца назад
Since synthetic is taking over and costs and arm and a leg, conventional 30 w oil is becoming scarce. I decided to simply use Delo 30 w for diesel engines as it is so much less money! What the difference, well diesel oil has more surfactants and higher quality lube properties, so why not?
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 4 месяца назад
HI thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience with using Delo 30W diesel engine oil in your vehicle! You've made an interesting choice by opting for Delo 30W diesel oil due to its affordability and purported higher quality lubricating properties. It's true that diesel engine oils often contain robust additives and detergents designed to handle the demands of diesel engines, which can translate well for certain applications in gasoline engines. While using diesel engine oil like Delo 30W may offer adequate lubrication and protection, it's important to consider a few key differences. Diesel engine oils are formulated to handle higher operating temperatures and stress levels typically found in diesel engines. Gasoline engines, on the other hand, may have different requirements in terms of viscosity and additive packages. When selecting engine oil, it's crucial to refer to your vehicle's manufacturer recommendations for the specific viscosity and type of oil suitable for your engine. Using the right oil can help optimize engine performance, protect vital components, and extend the engine's lifespan. That being said, I appreciate you sharing your approach and the reasoning behind your choice. It's always fascinating to explore different options and their potential benefits. Thank you for being part of our community and contributing to the discussion! Best regards, Craig
@solarsynapse
@solarsynapse 4 года назад
Use the oil that your particular engine requires unless money is of no concern. You left out a critical spec and that is ZDDP content. Newer vehicle engine oils do not have enough for flat tappet engines. Air cooled small engine oil, certain racing oils, most diesel oil and ATV/Motorcycle oil have an API rating of "J" which has the proper content of ZDDP. Look on the back of the containers. Briggs, Walmart small engine oil, Rotella T4, Honda GN4, Yamalube, Elf for certain VW diesels, etc. If you use an oil that has an API rating higher than "J" in the older designs, you will shorten the engine life. Some of the expensive Honda type engines have roller cams and oil pumps that use the newer oils. There is ZDDP additive, but too much is also bad due to corrosion.
@barrygrant2907
@barrygrant2907 3 года назад
My new Honda-engine pressure washer says use an oil rating of "SJ or higher," so that theory doesn't hole with the Honda Company
@solarsynapse
@solarsynapse 3 года назад
@@barrygrant2907 You stated new and Honda. Honda makes more advanced and modern engines than others like Briggs. I mentioned Honda in my comment. Best to use what the manual recommends.
@Ryan.90
@Ryan.90 3 года назад
Excellent video, appreciate you taking the time to 'show your working'. I certainly learned more than I'd expected to and that's always a bonus. 👍
@TheRepairSpecialist
@TheRepairSpecialist 3 года назад
Thank you so much for your nice feedback. It's comments like yours that motivate me to continue making these videos. Craig 😀👍
@mikecastleberry9671
@mikecastleberry9671 3 года назад
5 40 or nothing in every engine last for years and. Hours of operation period just did it one and 21 years later and. Every engine I have is running fine
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