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Carbon Fiber - 5 things you (probably) didn’t know 

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Before we started building the DarkAero 1, we had to learn a lot about carbon fiber. I want to share with you some important information about this material that will give you a better understanding of it, especially if you want to engineer a part made from carbon fiber.
This video covers 5 important things you need to know about carbon fiber.
1) Not all carbon fiber is created equal
- Carbon fiber is made up of small filaments. There are different "types" of filaments of different degrees of strength and stiffness. Additionally, there are different grades of cloth which determine the number of defects in your cloth weave. It’s important to understand what “type” and grade is right for your project.
2) Resin is the unsung hero
- It's easy to focus on the carbon fiber alone. However, you need to pay equal attention to the resin used. The resin allows carbon fiber parts to hold their shape and transfer load from one fiber to the next.
3) Carbon fiber is coated with a secret sauce
- Carbon fiber manufacturers will add a coupling agent (aka "sizing" or "finish") to filaments. This coating helps the resin bind to the carbon fiber. Without the coupling agent or proper coupling agent, the strength of your parts can be reduced.
4) Process drives properties
- The process (wet layup, prepreg, infusion, etc.) you select will ultimately partially determine the properties of your part. Process drives fiber to resin ratio and part defects. Understand which process makes most sense for the goals of your carbon fiber part(s).
5) Test or be tested
- Because there are so many variables that go into carbon fiber, there aren’t good sources of published material properties available to use for design. This means you need to perform testing to verify your parts meet the desired requirements.
Intro - 00:00
Not All Carbon Fiber Is Created Equal - 00:37
Resin is the Unsung Hero - 03:10
Carbon Fiber is Coated with a Secret Sauce - 05:15
Process Determines Properties - 06:24
Test or be Tested - 08:10
Outro - 09:43
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@DarkAeroInc
@DarkAeroInc 3 года назад
What are other interesting facts you have learned about carbon fiber? What aspects of carbon fiber would you like to learn more about?
@tuckpilot1192
@tuckpilot1192 3 года назад
I would be curious to see a detailed "how to" for infusion molding, drawing on what you outlined in this video.
@chicosajovic7680
@chicosajovic7680 3 года назад
What is the weight ratio of the carbon fiber to the resin for a finished part?
@DarkAeroInc
@DarkAeroInc 3 года назад
@@chicosajovic7680 roughly 70% carbon to 30% resin by weight. These numbers vary by +/-2% based on the specific part, weave type, and fiber orientation in the part.
@nssherlock4547
@nssherlock4547 3 года назад
Inserts ,fixings, etc and UV protection.
@michldehpunkt9904
@michldehpunkt9904 3 года назад
@@DarkAeroInc That seems a bit on the dry side. Have you ever tested this? I work with prepregs and the data sheets usually say about 60% fiber 40% resin (by weight).
@NeilStainton
@NeilStainton 3 года назад
I’ve just found your channel. I can’t believe how incredibly professional and thorough your work is. And I am even more impressed by your generosity in creating these professional videos and sharing your knowledge with the world.
@DarkAeroInc
@DarkAeroInc 3 года назад
Neil, thank you for the kind words and for checking out the channel! Glad the videos have been helpful!
@krperry2007
@krperry2007 3 года назад
Your methodical detailed design approach is admirable and impressive. Shows you have determination and patience required.
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 5 дней назад
THE RESIN YOU USE IS JUST AS IMPORTANT!!!!
@truth7416
@truth7416 3 года назад
I am full time in carbon Fiber manufacturing. Gayford Carbon Fiber Strad Violins. This is without a doubt one of the best intro's to carbon fiber videos I have seen. I can tell you have a mastery of the properties. Well done! I will start following your aircraft build as I have a Carbon fiber aircraft. A SkyArrow. PS I see you have two thumbs down, obviously some who think Carbon Fiber is spelled "Carbon Fibre" LOL
@kizzjd9578
@kizzjd9578 Год назад
I read your post as “gaylord” instead of “gayford” 😂
@JK-tv2bi
@JK-tv2bi 8 месяцев назад
I mean, it is spelt fibre rest of the world. The most advanced composite and carbon fibre manufacturing facilities and technology are based in Europe.
@Maree_Customs
@Maree_Customs 6 месяцев назад
The United States is the only country where it’s called “called fiber.” The rest of the world writes it as “fibre.” Typical American thinking they’re always right 😂 And this is coming from an American
@donnastoy8783
@donnastoy8783 2 месяца назад
It’s like the difference between “cell phones” and “mobile phones”. The tech for cell phones was developed by what would become Qualcom in San Diego California USA. Equally, Carbon “fiber” developed for aircraft parts were developed by Douglas Aircraft and Lockheed Martin Aircraft in Southern California USA. Just because these materials and processes were eventually marketed to the World does not mean that their original names should not be respected
@fuelbasti
@fuelbasti 3 года назад
Best short summery so far I watched on yt regarding CFRP. Good job!
@brianpetrow7218
@brianpetrow7218 3 года назад
Can't wait to see it in person...must...find...cash....tree
@stuartalexander5094
@stuartalexander5094 2 года назад
Thanks for taking the time to share what you have discovered. I have been dreaming about making my own plane for years but keep finding excuses. Your DarkAreo project is very inspiring. Thank you!
@billmeldrum2509
@billmeldrum2509 3 года назад
Fantastic project. Thanks for taking the time to share this with the world. 🇨🇦
@xnavyro
@xnavyro Год назад
You & your fellow engineers are amazing! Keep up the great work,we'll be watching. Thanks much for the insight!
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 5 дней назад
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! A MUST WATCH!!!
@leonbernhard8866
@leonbernhard8866 7 месяцев назад
Very informative video. Thank you
@fastbow9
@fastbow9 3 года назад
Very.good, this is the best series of videos on CF I have found, thanks for doing this!
@mwsiviero
@mwsiviero Год назад
Awesome! thanks for sharing this
@edmondthompson1523
@edmondthompson1523 3 года назад
Great information, well presented!
@michaelbishton9439
@michaelbishton9439 3 года назад
Very clear presentation. Thank you for sharing what you are learning and doing.
@richard8181
@richard8181 3 года назад
As always great and easy to understand info, keep it up 👍
@ammerudgrenda
@ammerudgrenda 2 года назад
Great presentation. Thanks!
@Tonicwine999
@Tonicwine999 3 года назад
I've been into carbon fiber for about 20 years and this has been a really fascinating video. Learned a lot here and everything was nice and clear. Great job
@dennisboyd1712
@dennisboyd1712 3 месяца назад
Excellent presentation, I found it very useful. Thank you.
@philv3941
@philv3941 3 года назад
Very informative, accurate and relevant vid. Thx, from France
@imbok
@imbok 3 года назад
THANK YOU for stating what I've learned from years of composites experience - Test, test, and more testing!! The only way to verify results is to mechanically test EVERYTHING. Great overall presentation and thanks for mentioning fiber/resin compatibility as well - a hidden key to composites success or failure. If you've done coupon level testing on any of your laminates, I'd be very interested to know the mechanical properties you've been able to achieve.
@DarkAeroInc
@DarkAeroInc 3 года назад
Thank you! Testing is key!
@mrbizi5652
@mrbizi5652 3 года назад
Imbok - do you do testing of carbon fiber sub assemblies today? Is that a service you offer? What is the fee?
@hanley74
@hanley74 2 года назад
Excellent videos ! Content is super !! Sir where do you recommend to buy resin that performs well on high temperature ?
@wwjjss33
@wwjjss33 3 года назад
Thank you for these information rich videos. Clear and concise. I look forward to learning from many of your other videos. Quality content!--You've earned a new design engineering subscriber!
@gerrybeylerian5290
@gerrybeylerian5290 3 года назад
Thanks for the very insightful video!
@kadecooper246
@kadecooper246 3 года назад
Great video. Went from super simplification of carbon fiber all the way to the spec sheets.
@jdheil01
@jdheil01 3 года назад
Love watching your videos. Great work guys. I know it can change, but when do you hope to start test taxis / flights?
@deeplato5647
@deeplato5647 3 года назад
Outstanding info!
@blainebolze1626
@blainebolze1626 3 года назад
Thank you so much! I'm always impressed by your infusions :)
@DarkAeroInc
@DarkAeroInc 3 года назад
Thank you!
@gabri2621
@gabri2621 2 года назад
Quality work! I’d love some more testing details. Process, Test conditions etc. Absolutely love your channel!!
@bartofilms
@bartofilms 3 года назад
Very cool. Thanks for sharing your knowledge gents.
@nobody-ko7mg
@nobody-ko7mg 3 года назад
excellent video, well presented with all applicable points covered short and simple.
@bicyclist2
@bicyclist2 2 года назад
This was very interesting and informative. I've been riding a carbon fiber bike for the last 15 years. Thank you.
@viphomeconcerts
@viphomeconcerts 2 года назад
Great info. Thanks!
@Deckageskate666
@Deckageskate666 3 года назад
wow you knocked it out of the park on this video. thanks a ton
@plane-fuzz
@plane-fuzz 3 года назад
OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION!
@sefutho
@sefutho 2 года назад
Short but informative 👍🏽 thank you very much 🙏🏾
@TheAnubite
@TheAnubite 3 года назад
Extremely detailed and well informed video! I used to be on an aero team myself, all of this is legit. 👍🏼
@mceajc
@mceajc 2 года назад
Excellent general Engineering advice!
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 5 дней назад
I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL. PLEASE CONTINUE TO SHARE YOUR TRUTH.
@trevorlorimer6727
@trevorlorimer6727 3 года назад
Nice work on both the plane and the channel. Do you use spray adhesives to tack the dry cloth to 1) the mold, and 2) further layers of cloth, before infusion? If so, have you tested with/without spray adhesive to see whether stiffness is affected or delamination is a concern?
@dustinnisley5924
@dustinnisley5924 3 года назад
Great info! Thank you!
@AnthonySaccoM
@AnthonySaccoM 3 года назад
Thanks for dipping into the weeds on the process and philosophy of carbon construction.
@davidwatts6252
@davidwatts6252 3 года назад
Superb Video with Great Technical information that we have used in our Orthopaedic Laminating Procedures for our Patients, please keep putting them on RU-vid so we can get the very best Prosthetic Builds for our Customers.
@gabrielchartrand1278
@gabrielchartrand1278 3 года назад
Love the info guys! 👌
@GS-wx5pr
@GS-wx5pr 3 года назад
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!
@hclchgm
@hclchgm 2 года назад
This is a nearly perfect introduction to the technical details of carbon fiber parts components creation. Please do write a full book on this.
@numninja830
@numninja830 2 года назад
Thank you for actually mentioning the more important factors vs the marketing nomenclature regurgitation most channels spit out.
@abundantlife3408
@abundantlife3408 3 года назад
Well presented! Thanks.
@shughalonly4724
@shughalonly4724 2 года назад
Thanks a lot..Great video
@thienlieu2030
@thienlieu2030 3 года назад
Sorry I can't even pay attention to what you're saying, that profile view of DarkAero 1 looks sooooo good at 13 seconds in and I can't get it out of my head
@yeboscrebo4451
@yeboscrebo4451 3 года назад
When i saw the profile for the first time, I thought of the original Ford Mustang styling. Not sure if they’re even similar but something about it reminded me of the extremely appealing mustang design
@crazyprof5349
@crazyprof5349 3 года назад
DART Aero > DARK Aero
@SaltySRT
@SaltySRT 3 года назад
YES! Its like the engineering explained version that focuses just on carbon fiber and how to actually make stuff!
@peterparsons7141
@peterparsons7141 2 года назад
Well done, content presentation, information provided. Very informative and interesting.
@cenkkurtulus
@cenkkurtulus 2 года назад
Thank you, it is very useful.
@kentanderson8575
@kentanderson8575 6 месяцев назад
Very nice video! Presenting the big picture so clearly is not easy.
@Todd66
@Todd66 3 года назад
Very well done.
@davidgretlein9384
@davidgretlein9384 3 года назад
Perhaps a vid on various layup techniques in terms of the direction you might run the fibers in different scenarios (corners, flat plate surfaces, access holes curved parts), would be cool to see. Great stuff, guys. Subscribed earlier today! My uncle built (professional pilot) planes - Cub J-3, serial #1 1001-B0200, and has seen his work, so I really appreciate what you are doing!
@aaronmarshall4871
@aaronmarshall4871 3 года назад
A nice survey of carbon fiber composites. A video on how you meet part 23 certification requirements with regard to structural capability would be really informative, and specifically on the role of analysis in the certification. Nice work!
@justindyster7073
@justindyster7073 3 года назад
Excellent video!
@CameronCarter1
@CameronCarter1 2 года назад
Great videos. Thanks.
@TheFleetflyer
@TheFleetflyer 3 года назад
Awesome - my composites knowledge is limited to spat repairs on my RV-8, this is another level of information that really demonstrates your high level of expertise. I just wish you guys were in the UK.
@chandrahasan3225
@chandrahasan3225 3 года назад
Hay bro, Good information and I like your Channel very much much educative. I have a question on machining carbon fibre especial drilling what's is the best property for drilling and milling carbon fibre parts??
@j121212100
@j121212100 3 года назад
beautiful plane! it is really coming along.
@binarumah
@binarumah 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing. Tonnes of information on carbon fiber here.
@svetoslavvelev8924
@svetoslavvelev8924 3 года назад
Great video! Would you say what epoxy resins you used for the different parts (brand, type)?
@kyrillkryvenko752
@kyrillkryvenko752 3 года назад
Hello, thanks for a good educational video. What resin do you use for infusion? How many different resins do you use in the construction of this airplane?
@user-px1wj2uv3r
@user-px1wj2uv3r 3 года назад
Another great video guys. That definitely answered my question about CF weight. I’m taking Material Properties right now, and working on a project to test the properties of CF, aluminum and balsa wood. Tons of nerd fun haha. What’s the lightest part you’ve made?
@jdanon4103
@jdanon4103 3 года назад
Great stuff guys... As to other CF related content: I'd love to see the full infusion process for one of the more complex parts, all the technicals i.e. how-to in terms of vacuum specs, resin flow and saturation, baking, finishes/UV sealing or what have you. Alternatively, or rather additionally, I'd really like to see how you guys bond different parts together, for example the bulkheads and the airframe (and maybe how you bond your sandwich panels in the first place)? I'm also curios about the motor mounts or the fuel tank install, basically how you bond CF and metals.
@ParadigmUnkn0wn
@ParadigmUnkn0wn 3 года назад
They offer engineering and process consulting services, check out the consulting page on their website.
@zeahroela
@zeahroela 3 года назад
Great info!
@igwia
@igwia 3 года назад
Most helpful 10 min. for my individual research about "carbon fibers in automotive" project for my thesis. Although this video is about on aerospace :) It was really detailed. -Thanks from Turkey
@pitu72ger
@pitu72ger 3 года назад
Great teaching. Thx.
@arshmahajan7774
@arshmahajan7774 3 года назад
What a great video
@marcels.1225
@marcels.1225 2 года назад
Great video!!! It would be great if you could make a video about the different curing methods
@JOEGGGJOE
@JOEGGGJOE 3 года назад
Good video. Great info. But what about raw finished products with up protection? Clear gel coat(with up protection) or a 2k automotive clear? Do they even name Uv epoxy resins? I see a lot of cf parts yellow & tarnish. I know many companies make cf parts with polyester resin & no uv protection to keep costs down. I am referring to more of automotive parts. Do you recommend any epoxy resins?
@Menstral
@Menstral 2 года назад
Fantastic!
@MosaicDubai
@MosaicDubai 3 года назад
Clear and helpful video for anyone who wants to learn more about carbon fiber. Keep up the good work
@DarkAeroInc
@DarkAeroInc 3 года назад
Thank you for watching and for the kind words! :)
@b1ngnx33
@b1ngnx33 3 года назад
Thank you.
@TheLastDay-BobReese
@TheLastDay-BobReese 3 года назад
How have you integrated metal in the weave for lightening protection? Could you show a video on how you've done that. I saw one video on laying a fiberglass sheets down but what kind of "metal layer" is supposed to be used and where do you buy it or how do you make it? THX
@christopherbeddoe406
@christopherbeddoe406 3 года назад
Great video.
@machtschnell7452
@machtschnell7452 3 года назад
Thank for your articulate explanation. Every time I look at your project I wonder if there is a turbine that could be fitted up front. Perhaps your next design will have a high bypass turofan. Very exciting, guys. So no go on CF wheels? Bending seems better than shattering.
@carbonarne675
@carbonarne675 3 года назад
Great good video! All basic stuff but cold converted so everyone understands
@russreadsbooks
@russreadsbooks 3 года назад
Great intro video!
@danl.4743
@danl.4743 3 года назад
Fascinating subject and you did a fantastic, great video. Seriously guys, I place this at the top 1% of technical videos on RU-vid. THANK YOU!
@DarkAeroInc
@DarkAeroInc 3 года назад
Dan, thank you for watching and for the kind words on the video! :)
@mrbizi5652
@mrbizi5652 3 года назад
Dan - we should see if @EngineeringExplained would give these guys a guest hosting spot!
@tomcoryell
@tomcoryell 3 года назад
Thanks for the free CF education! I wish you great success. That appears to be a real slippery aircraft. Should do well on fuel consumption.
@illiachyrva612
@illiachyrva612 3 года назад
Hi. Excellent tutorial. Could you share a bit more about how many final parts (i.e wing, fuselage etc) you are manufacturing in the row. I assume there should be at least three because you need to test couple of them
@dkjens0705
@dkjens0705 10 месяцев назад
Thank you, absolutely great and informative video. One could only have hoped that OceanGate would have taken an as professional approach.
@DMAX_DIY
@DMAX_DIY 2 года назад
Ok, So I did watch your "Galvanic Corrosion episode" but I did not subscribe because I was new to YT. NOW I am watching DarkAero again and Subscribing for sure my friend! I've been researching to build a CF frame for my DIY motion Sim rig (works great, but now gotta lose the weight) Appreciate all your info ! DMAX motion sim channel
@EdJZatta
@EdJZatta 3 года назад
I’m looking forward to the future of aviation with great minds like this team getting the resources to make shifts in the aviation future.
@dalepeterson9907
@dalepeterson9907 3 года назад
So... what resin do you use? And where do you get it? I've been searching for this info for a few months now as I need to repair some CF on my flyin' machine.
@vivekk2473
@vivekk2473 3 года назад
What software do you guys use for simulation? And is it just a simulation software or can you also change the matrix and the reinforcement properties with the software? Thank you in advance!!
@timh9671
@timh9671 3 года назад
I work at Toray. It is definitely a unique process.
@lorenzocano7884
@lorenzocano7884 3 года назад
If every teacher would be as good and clear as you guys, lerning would be joyfull!!!
@austinpayne7192
@austinpayne7192 2 года назад
What software do you guys use for running FEA on composite parts?
@kashishmistry4804
@kashishmistry4804 3 года назад
Please tell us more about testing range for different type of parts that are made up with carbon fiber,and also want to know about different method of stiffening it with resin. Btw this is really awesome stuff💛
@ExarchGaming
@ExarchGaming Год назад
Thank you, this is amazing information. I just saw a custom carbonfiber lid made for a laptop, and the people saying that carbon fiber is cheap and parts are easily made for a 100 dollars, made my jaw drop, because it's not that easy... not all carbon fiber is equal, this video will help me teach a few people about it.
@00bikeboy
@00bikeboy 3 года назад
Very interesting!
@teddyromero9485
@teddyromero9485 2 года назад
Thank you
@SushikiIIer
@SushikiIIer Месяц назад
Did you guys use fibreglass seperation layers to avoid glavanic interactions with the carbon and metal parts? or Did you opt for another route like sacraficial anode?
@Q_Channel1
@Q_Channel1 3 года назад
How much of a difference cost wise is your switch to an aramid core vice the aluminum core? As an OEM producing your own panels, are you seeing much difference?
@tiagocosta9714
@tiagocosta9714 3 года назад
What FEA software do you guys use for composites?
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