The only thing I sort'a dispute is what a journalist is: IMO, if you report the news in a public forum, without injecting opinion or spinning it to support a particular ideology, then you are a journalist.
_"Your honor, I submit into evidence the lyrics to a song by Cardi B titled 'Wet A** P****.' I rest my case."_ Just to be clear, this comment is intended as a joke.
This goes to show just how hard it is to win a defamation case. The defendant had to be caught lying on the stand, have her husband call her a liar on the stand, and a defense attorney so bad the judge told her to “go back to law school.”
Yeah, I don't know if it is a particular usa problem because of the first amendment but I don't know other countries to have such a difficult time to prove defamation cases like that. Cause it is kind "simple" like here in brazil, if you are saying things about someone you have to prove it they are true. Opinion is if you like Cardi B music or not, you can't say things about her as a person if you can't prove she's like that. I can't say my neighbour is selling drugs or even might be, wherever I claim I have to prove it.
She also never backed down. Had she issued an apology or retraction, that would have gotten the case dropped. Or at least significantly reduced punitive damages.
@@Sorcerers_Apprentice yeah that is it right there. She could have took first video down after the cease and desist. Then issue some type of apology, and go from there if she so felt the need to ensure she says this is my opinion. Or, if a real fact came out cite and source all of that. She just doubled down constantly. Who in their right mind wouldn’t be afraid of a cease and desist from a wealthy person when you know you’re just lying? Lol
Exactly, she has a horrible spirit. Like why would having herpes or any STI make you a bad person. If she's going around knowingly giving people that infection, yes but clearly that was not happening.
Can't you lawfully refuse to give testimony against your spouse? I was under the impression that was a thing, but it could easily be tv/movie nonsense for all I know.
@@Deoxippus some people call it "spousal immunity" or "spousal privilege," and yes that does exist. What you have to figure out is whether that spousal immunity/privilege exists in the state at issue. You also have to determine whether that immunity/privilege exists in that state for this kind of case (e.g., some states might allow the privilege for criminal matters but not civil matters). Another important consideration that is not covered in this video is whether the husband unknowingly waived his right to assert the spousal privilege.
@Bachlava what is funny is that people didn't watch or understood the case. I'm not a fan of either one, I'm a fan of this lawyer. Cardi didn't win because she was rich. She won because tasha not only lied, but she also didn't have the common sense to stop after receiving a cease and desist letter twice.
@@Valsorayu against other celebrities? Sure. Against other people you bet easier. If you have enough money and influence you can take just about anyone to court and win. The cops, courts, and system aren't on anyone's side and even less for us normal folks.
If you're going to pretend to be a journalist (and claim the protections of a journalist) then you have to also follow the responsibilities of a journalist. You can't sometimes be a journalist and sometimes not, depending on the situation.
@@YesYes-yt3lb We know that Carlson has made race-baiting, white supremacist comments on his show, and praises dictators like Putin and the boss of Hungary. We also know that a US district judge (appointed by Trump), in deciding Carlson's slander case, said that the 'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.'....But what irresponsible thing do you imagine that Cenk has done?
To be honest I do feel like it does devalue a human being. Almost everything that does not grant long term benefits does. A career as a stripper doesn't rise your value, it lowers it. I'm not saying it makes her worthless or anything, but I do personally believe that she's worth less than she would be if she hasn't been a stripper for however long she was one.
@@Elaborance That’s not how human beings work. We are not cattle to be sold. And frankly, if I had to choose between saving the life of a stripper and you, I’d save the stripper.
Thats beside the point. Celebrities are human and therefore can act accordingly under the law. If a celebrity was doing that to a regular Joe, all hell would break loose. Only fair that it works the other way around. 👍👍
@@AKUNJIG Give me everything you got for this defamation lawsuit. Testify. Catch the truth. With merit and validation. Make that gabble slam hard. Extra demanding and extra honorable . Put this docket in your face. Swipe your eyes across the affidavit. Let's cross examine, Im next to the judge. I don’t object, I don’t stutter but let me tell you how I got this ruling (There's some lawyers in this courthouse, there some lawyers in this courthouse)
And it sounds like Tasha did everything possible to lose. I can't even blame the lawyer in this case. Even a defamation lawyer probably would have taken one look at this and would have told her to settle.
Is there a specific course in law school he might have been referring to? I'm picturing one where they just spend a semester repeating the words "don't take cases that you aren't qualified to represent" over and over again.
Cardi B is a woman of her word. She said “aight bitch, Imma take your bread” and that’s exactly what she did. I’m glad she won. It’s so sad to see what greed would push people to do. The fact that people ate her lies up also shows the truly ugly nature of humans, that they revel in other’s (alleged) misery.
"It's so sad to see what greed would push people to do". I don't know these two ladies at all, but from the presentation here, it seems like Tasha is very, very easy to push into this sort of thing. As far as I can tell, if she didn't get paid for it, she might still do it anyway.
I know nothing about Cardi B but Tasha is a bully. Like, you know as a kid Tasha was absolutely the kind of girl to bully other girls into switching schools.
I believe Cardi B suffered mentally. There was an interview asking her if she was happy that she was famous, and she nearly broke out in tears. I can't believe a woman would deliberately torture another woman like this.
I watched Tasha's youtube 'response' to losing and it is pathetic. She is so nasty, and a liar, a narcissist acting like a victim. She feels she has the right to lie and slander Cardi, I wonder how Tasha would feel if someone treated her daughter the way she treated Cardi? I'm not a fan of Cardi, I don't know any of her music, but I am thrilled she won.
She is like that kid on the playground that starts picking on the other kids and then cries when the other kids tell the teacher. Like no bitch.. you started it you can't turn around and play the victim.
Oh my. Her husband didn't throw her under the bus, she literally did that by saying, on record, that the stories are made up! Tasha is one sloppy gossip youtuber.
He likely should have evoked spousal privilege and refused to answer those questions, though it appears they had a very bad lawyer who should have told him that. Since obviously he shouldn't perjure himself, but he also cannot be forced to answer an incriminating question about his wife.
@@electrified0 that’s true for criminal trial but idk if that’s the case for civil court & it varies per state. So it definitely would’ve been helpful to have a civil/defamation lawyer handy.
I mean... even if he could claim that, it makes her look like a lier also, at least to Amy logical person. Soon as u want to evoke spouse privilege, anyone would think oh she/he did something bad or eles he would just answer.
As an overweight white guy who is a warehouse worker in his 50's. I assure you it is critical for me to know private medical information of a 20 something rap star. This way when we randomly meet and she asks me out I can make an informed decision as to whether or not I want to except.
Why would you double and triple down on something you don't know to be true for yourself? Doing that many negative videos about someone shows a pattern of malice so I'm not surprised by the ladies court loss.
@@eustatic3832 Hey, they've repeatedly claimed in court that they're just fiction and entertainment, not actually news. At this point I'm starting to agree that it's not their fault people are still taking them seriously.
This is the most clear-cut case of defamation I've ever heard. This "blogger" just straight up knowingly lied and tried to pass it off as the truth. And then tried to play off the lawsuit as "silencing black bloggers." What a joke. These kinds of people should be put in jail.
When your only defense is your own RU-vid videos, Cardi's song lyrics, and Instagram lives.... Girl I don't know how you thought you were gonna win this. Like you were not prepared at all 🤣
It depend on the type of defense you try. If you are going for first amendment + no defamation then you do not have to prove the statement are true. Just that you stated opinion or reported other's statement and for that your own video can be enough.
This is so true. If every lyric ever written was accepted as evidence half of the men in the music industry would be charged for harassment or sexual assault. And plenty of women would be charged with destruction of property (I'm looking at you Carrie Underwood)
I feel like this was something that needed to be done. A lot of people will straight-up lie about celebrities for clicks or out of malice/jealousy, and nothing bad happens because it's too big a hassle. It should never be okay to just make up lies and spread them around, so I'm glad Cardi B fought back.
The most interesting part about this is that anyone who went to school for journalism for five minutes knows how not to commit libel/defamation. Like it was LITERALLY the first class after syllabus day it is that important. It’s like your accountant forgetting how to do addition
This could actually set a HUGE precedent. And RU-vidrs should be more careful going forward with what they say. Freedom of speech =/= freedom to say whatever you want without consequence. To clarify; The First Amendment protects free speech from government censorship. It doesn't protect you from getting your ass handed to you, for acting foolish.
@@Shasha-jo5iv That's what SLAAP laws are for. Defamation is hard to prove. Watch his other videos on this. As long as its true, the celebrity doesn't have any ground to stand on.
I'm not a fan of her music, per se... But it really sucks that she had to go through that... I can't wrap my head around the fact that there are people out there who are so desperate for attention that they would strive to ruin another person's entire life by dedicating their OWN lives to that goal... That is frightening. Cardi B may have this bad ass, eff the world persona but she's still human, a mother, a friend... The world has gone mad.
Some people are bullies and they don't see other people as people, just as toys to play with. I'm not a Cardi stan but what Tasha did was truly gross and uncalled for. People should never be treated like this, period.
@@Orzine that's a very good point. It's incredibly disconcerting that you can carve out a career, put your kids through school and live a somewhat charmed life by destroying another person's reputation and causing real financial or psychological harm...
I know virtually nothing about Cardi B (or most celebrities, for that matter), but if she’s been suffering enough that her therapist has been fighting an uphill battle because of the constant barrage of abuse, then I only hope the results of the case improve Cardi’s mental state. No one deserves to suffer.
@@aaronlewis9769 The only exceptions I can think of is generally if you are making money off your intellectual property (examples being a writer or artist), or if you won the lottery.
as a black man theres a few dark skin black women who are extremely envious of lighter skinned black or mixed women like cardi b (some even claim she isnt black even though he father is black and her mom is columbian) especially if shes getting alot of male attention the dark skin black women thinks they should get...im sure that had something to do with tasha's issue with cardi b
I've been a sex educator since the early 90s, and it *shatters* my heart that we are such a fundamentally sex negative culture that we've managed to turn a form of the chicken pox into a way to pass moral judgment on people, based soley on where it presents.
That's what I thought too. I'm glad Cardi proved her cases but herpes and HPV are SO common and not something people should be ashamed of. You can catch both simply from skin contact, meaning you can catch it even while wearing a condom (though definitely use protection everyone, it does reduce risk). Roughly 13% of sexually active people have herpes, and roughly **75%** of people will contract HPV in their lifetimes. They are illnesses, no one should be ashamed of something they can't control. Trying to shame someone for that whether they actually have it or not is shameful.
Yeah it's definitely gross how people try to basically slutshame someone with it, but I also think just characterizing it as a form of the chicken pox is a bit misleading. Like it gives you really gross sores and there's no cure or vaccine it's pretty serious, but definitely shouldn't be shamed regardless.
@@sethb124 to be fair alot those things are also true of chicken pox its just that later in life we call it shingles but it can be a horrific condition for some people
Objection! when Cardi B said she was gonna "Take all her bread" It was not a physical threat of violence it meant she was going after Tasha k's money. It could mean going after Tasha K's sponsors or in this case sue her
He's had practice with these transitions, and I have to admit that he's actually good enough at them that I listen _through_ the ads in case he has another dig to add to the pile, as he often does.
Your videos make me want to go to law school just so I can hear rap lyrics and slang words used in a serious real-world legal capacity. It never gets old!
There were congressional hearings about gangsta rap back in the 90s. Ah, to hear old white men debating the constitutionality of shizzling one's nizzle!
Con artist Anna Sorokin ("Anna Delvey") recently got out of prison after scamming people out of hundreds of thousands of dollars and is back on Instagram where she's amassing fans who adore and support her and flat-out say that the people she scammed "just got what they deserved." Seems kind of incredible, but you really can't underestimate the cult power of personality, I guess.
Proving someone engaged in defamation in a US court, especially against a celebrity, is incredibly difficult. That really just goes to show how terrible someone's conduct is, and has to be, to be found liable.
i cant say i really care about Cardi B, but i have to say, its kinda nice seeing a REAL defamation case. the number of times people seem to love to threaten defamation but have no case other then someone said bad things about them(but not necessarily untrue) makes you just have to face palm.
I dont' care about Cardis music either, but most things I hear about her from credible sources actually paint her as a very intelligent Business Woman who doesnt open her mouth without thinking. Kudos to her
So disheartening how people say things like "these ____ don't tell the truth." Basically stereotyping that line of work as liars and that's a huge problem. Many victims have gone to the police and reported crimes but are dismissed because of those stereotypes and how society, mainly those in seats of power, view that line of work and gender. I've seen so many true crime shows where serial murderers claim more lives because of it.
@@bigbawlzlebowski8886 plenty of them do and use it as a second job, plenty also do it just for extra money while studying at college etc. they're most of the time just normal people, your job isn't what defines you or who you are.
Is it alright to say "these politicians don't tell the truth" still? Because I'm pretty sure they don't, and I honestly wouldn't mind if the police and media ignored serial killers preying on politicians.
Should have used Tucker Carlson's defense: "The stuff I say is so ridiculous the average person couldn't possibly take me seriously". Worked for [the most widely-watched "news" show on cable television]!
Or the Alex Jones get out of jail free card: “I am not a real reporter, I am a joke! Nothing I say it’s serious no matter how committed I sound. I am just playing a character.”
These political pundits and reporters lie,but they do so with a difference in political view points.Unlike Tasha that was relentlessly attacking the same person with malicious lies that was directly affecting their career, reputation and we'll being.Tasha even lied on Cardi's family members too,that lady is crazy.
@@javierhernandez1555 I know that most of AJs viewers don't know he's doing a bit, and he's certainly been irresponsible with how far he's pushed it, but God damn is that man an artist.
Oh my gosh! I can see why Cardi B sued. I remember hearing those rumors, and I just assumed they were true. I've never heard of Tasha K until now. So if a random white guy in Utah thought that was all true, that means the lie was widespread. It's good that Cardi B sued.
had no idea who tasha is either and have no desire to watch any content of hers but glad she got her dues if she maliciously spread false claims she knew was not true or could have easily verified.
This reminds me somewhat of Carol Burnett winning her defamation lawsuit against the National Inquirer. The lies they concocted were far milder than what TashaK came up with.
Good on CardiB. I actually hope this sets a good precedent cause there are so many youtubers who create their entire career based around hating public figures and stoking constant anger towards them. Hate should not be a career.
I’m actually fine with hating. If you don’t like someone okay whatever. But saying “I don’t like someone they’re a bad influence” is very different than trying to defame someone by claiming terrible things about them. That isnt okay
I'm pretty sure Tasha K went to college so she has no excuse for not knowing how important it is to ensure the sources of your research are credible. If she didn't know, well, now she does! That defamation came full circle because she looks like a fraud🤷🏾♀️
I don’t think she believed them. I think she happily “reported” on them to fuel her agenda against Cardi B. She probably that Star Marie would be liable for what she said and everyone would look past the lowly RU-vidr with a million subscribers.
This case is a valuable lesson in not just what separates journalism from a tea/drama channel, but also how unhealthy it is to obsess over celebrities. Lots of people seem to fixate on the positive idolization of celebrities and look past the fact that hate can blind your judgment and logic too.
Great video, like always! I'm an attorney in Mexico, and I really enjoy your videos. They are very informative concerning USA's legal system. Today I was rewatching Breaking Bad (S3:E6) and around the 36-minute mark there was an interesting sconce regarding the illegal search of a RV and the interpretation of what a domicile is. I thought it could be an interesting topic to elaborate on. Looking forward to keep learning in such a awesome format!
@@TheIslandDivision This depends. A million people disappearing all at once over the entire globe, that's expected. That doesn't even show up as a significant margin of error. A million people missing in the US in that same timeframe would really make the headlines. Even in India, having a million people go missing would be strange. In China they just call it reeducation.
Please let this ruling stand! It is the precedent needed for the start of dismantling online malice trolls. If any opinion that has been disproven continues to be spewed, it will now be actionable. That is an amazing precedent to be in place.
I’ve long held the belief people allocate too much of their time and attention to following an artist. Enjoy their ‘art’ or don’t, but I think the world has plenty of good causes more important than an artist’s personal life.
@@robertp457 I doubt it unless she was being a cheapskate. I forgot what her husband does but they had money. + what she was making off her channel and sponsor deals. Even if it had something to do with money, I’m sure her lawyers would’ve told her to settle and pay what she can(if money was really an issue why push for your innocence knowing it’s going to cost more for your lawyer to defend you + the potential millions she’d owe for losing). Versus her settling immediately and paying what Cardi B asked for. Tasha is being forced to pay +$3mil in reparations, now it really has something to do with money😹
@@SpoilerAlert__ I'm not super familiar with the facts of the case but would she have lost that much, or any, money if she had settled? It sounds like Jones got a slap on the wrist despite being the originator of the claims.
I really don't have much love for Cardi B, but no one deserves that and I would never wish poor mental health on anyone. Good on her, seems like she deserved to win!
yknow im not a big fan her, i am familiar w cardi b's music, so no shade, but omg tasha had this *coming* LMAO normally i don't root for celebrities but oh, my god. cardi b is totally right in taking all this absolute manure pile of a human being was worth.
Interesting fact: the crusade against swearwords has gone so far in the United States, that even court documents replace the word "shit" with "s***"!!!
@L M That's because actual leftists are forced to vote center or worse "moderate" to keep the country from sliding into a fascist theocracy. And we still end up losing out.
This was such an interesting case! And it's nice to see someone who thought their hateful words wouldn't bite them in the ass lose. The more I see of cardi B the more I respect her and what she's doing. Also goddamn what a brutal and hilarious skillshare ad turn lol! Well done!
When you have a major "news" network spout misleading opinions as facts, and get away with it, is it any wonder that others have followed suit? The sad part is some people will look at Tasha K as the victim instead of recognizing that she did this to herself.
The thing is that major news networks are smart about it. Rather than say things like "X celebrity did this", they say "there have been reports that X celebrity did this", thus giving them a legal defence should they ever be brought to court. That's why those networks are doubly frustrating - you know what they're doing isn't right, but you can't do a thing about it anyways, asides from ignore them
That propaganda network knows how to evade lawsuits though. They have "opinion" on their "___ and Friends" show that says "things", then the "News" which "reports" on the "things" "people" are saying. Even then, their "opinion" people will have to testify that they are performance artists playing nutcases on TV and that no reasonable person would take them seriously. Huh - the ink on my quote key rubbed off. When did that happen?
5.30 'Serious allegations', like what? Having herpes, doing drugs and doing sex work? Regardless of the truth, people don't deserve hate for that. Now lying to humiliate someone for attention and money, that's despicable. No idea why Tasha thought she could get away with that...
Hey Legal, would it be alright for you to cover the attacks Japanese companies keep making on RU-vidrs, particularly AnimeTubers and Nintendo music channels? Their continous attacks have since increased this year, and it doesn't look like they'll be stopping anytime soon, unfortunately 😖
i know on the music side there isn't much to talk about. nintendo owns the music, and it's completely within their legal right to take down straight uploads of the music. it's more of a moral issue of they refuse to put their music anywhere while also doing this, legally it's really cut and dry.
By attack do you mean content claims? Legal eagle was already in a major and well researched video on the topic, the conclusion was more or less the companies arein the legal-right even if no one likes it because the laws were designed with major companies in mind instead of independents. If you want to watch it, it's on Tom Scotts channel, its a major collaboration.
@@christophernoneya4635 I think this case is more based on the fact that place a, where youtuber is from, has different copyright laws than place b, where company is from.
Hearing LegalEagle say Funky Dineva and Empressive is the knell in my coffin today. It's too early for this. It feels so odd. Lol Tasha K spreading misinformation has already changed the internet with this bit alone.
I chuckled at that obvious flop of a claim as well. Even the dustiest, wrinkliest, most grey-haired old judge is still going to be quite well aware that bread is cash.
I dont see how having an STD or deciding to make some money with your body would be shamefull in the first place. Its very last century to 'defame' people over something so minor.
The norms in law can move very slowly. It's considered defamation per se, which means you don't have to prove someone's statements damaged your reputation and caused emotional distress, damages are presumed, usually if they claimed the: -person was involved in criminal activity -person had a "loathsome", contagious or infectious disease -person was unchaste or engaged in sexual misconduct -person was involved in behavior incompatible with the proper conduct of his business, trade or profession (i.e. took bribes, botched a case, etc.) It's as if this idiot decided to check every "defamation per se" box to say on purpose.
@@42Fossy yeah she’s definitely questionable at best and I generally don’t like her. The case makes sense tho and im glad that Tasha did get sued for defamation bc no matter how much I hate a person, spreading malicious rumors is a no-go.
that is NOT “minor”: ask any woman you know. Firstly: Whether Cardi herself would be ashamed to have an STI or ashamed of a history of prostitution is irrelevant here. She would be publicly harassed, and insulted because of it. In addition, she almost certainly did lose business opportunities because of it. The fact of the matter is, this stuff is still considered shameful by the vast majority of people. I would not personally shame someone for either of those things: but that doesn’t make me unaware of how other people behave. Secondly: having someone repeat falsehoods about you in public is shameful, even if those same statements would not be shameful if they were true. Lastly: the falsehoods materially changed the nature of Cardi B’s reputation. This would be grounds for a defamation suit even if the statements were not in themselves insulting. Celebrities spend a lot of time and money crafting their reputations the way *they* want them. Tasha was interfering with that: and NOT in pursuit of the truth.
@@sophiejones3554 I think it is a good thing she went to sue, dont get me wrong. I was expressing my disgust for people who think its allright to herass a former stripper just for that fact. What some people see as sinnfull is not always a crime, no matter how much they think it should be and so they have no right to act like the other should be punnished. And ofc, for a public figure this just wont stand, she had to sue and in the process tought everyone a lesson that it is wrong to defame people in that way.
"Jones, Cardi, and a third party." Great work, Devin. Really showing your range here! Might I say that I never thought you'd top your Ting segues but that was ....apple-pie.
I'm gonna go out on a limb, and say that Tasha K kept the attorney, because more than likely, NO OTHER self-respecting attorney in Georgia would take her case.
You know this is gonna be a good video when even Devon can't get through the first minute without laughing. Edit: Not complaining, to be clear. He has a wonderful laugh.
Okay, she's ordered to take down videos, but then reposts them. She stands by "research" that has been pointed out to be false multiple times. She admits that she meant everything she said, including the things she made up herself. Then hires a lawyer that is not skilled in her type of case. I really don't think this lady is a victim, except of her own stupidity. I'm not really a fan of Cardi B's music, but she deserved that win. While I know absolutely nothing about her, she seemed like a nice person on a British chat show. She also hurt Cardi B's family. Hurting a child makes you an asshole. This kid had to hear horrible things about her mother from all sorts of people. How do you recover from that? I hope this woman gets what she deserves.
This might be the best crossover RU-vid video. You’re one of my fave RU-vidr and you’re talking about my other fave RU-vidrs. Glad you broke it down. This case was super messy
Super late to the party but looking through the comments, it's super bizarre how so many people feel the need to clarify that they aren't fans of Cardi B or her music when giving their opinion.
