Cardiff Hooligan On The Toughest Club In The Midlands? 

1 Birmingham 2 Stoke 3 Wolves 4 Derby 5 Leicester 6 Villa 7 Forest 8 Cov 9 WBA 10 Lincoln. Forget the rest.

Coventry Legion had it with pretty much everyone in the country. They still do now. Really underrated firm.

There was one hooligan group in the 70s and 80s that topped the lot without question. A group of nasty bastards , tooled up , who didnt give a shit. Gentlemen I give you the ..... West Midlands Police

Mad eh, when I was a lad England was shamed for its hooliganism and now its celebrated and glorified. Mad world we live in!

Being a Bluenose from the late 60’s I remember many a scrap with Cardiff…you didn’t need to be a Zulu to get in there and take them on! The Apex, the various crews from Acocks Green, Stetchford, Bordesley Green etc… we had numbers!! All the Brummie’s stick together!! 💪🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿✝️

He won't talk about section 5 because he got banged right out by Bernie outside a pub in Cardiff! They were outside waiting & calling for Section 5 & they got em Section 5 ploughed through em & Cardiff ran off in their own city 😅😅😅

R.I.P Baz, he admitted that he had a scary day against Cov Legion.

Birmingham Zulus always get praise but from my experience I always rated Wolves more... zulus probably had bigger numbers but Wolves IMO were ruthless and always proper game... Anyone around in the early eighties who came across the Subway Army in their heyday will know... Stoke N40 also very impressive in the nineties, so were Forest and Leicester too...Aston Villa deserve credit they were good around this time as were Wolves Yam Yams

I am not a football fan but know plenty of Birmingham city fans and they do give the Welsh stoke an wolverhampton plenty of credit.

Heard a hell of a story from years back about Birmingham on their way back from a game at Cardiff but stopped in some small town not too far away and ended up in a massive brawl with some Swansea lads who were on their way back from a London game. Fighting spilled out onto the streets and round the corner over a bridge and then down an embankment where more fighting occurred. What stopped the fight (keep in mind it was dark) was the sight of a massive freight train hurtling towards them, lights blazing and horn blasting to tell everyone to move or end up dead. So everyone scarpered. One of the Blues lads realised he'd lost his wallet in the melee so the next day, another Bluenose drove him back to South Wales where they found the town, found the pub and tried to retrace their steps. Eventually they went down this embankment and sure enough in the spot where the scrapping happened, the wallet was there untouched. He was well happy and no money was missing. But the two Brummies looked around and wondered where the tracks were. Some old bloke walking his dog told them that it used to be a railway line but there'd been no tracks since the 60s and no trains on it since the 50s and now it was just a pathway. They got the hell away from there as quick as they could.

Cardiff barely played half of the Midlands clubs when it mattered, they were in the lower leagues apart from playing Wolves in their decline and maybe Blues early 90s. Cardiff didn't play Leicester between 1982 and 2004 or Forest 1977 to 2003.

Plenty of good firms in the Midlands. Zulus probably top because of their numbers, which is credit to them because their success and attendances aren't great.

Ask him about when Hednesford Town went to Cardiff! Some Cardiff lad's in the away end & when Cardiff scored they all started cheering & they had a right kicking & they couldn't escape until the police arrived😂

I was in one of those 2 taxis. We got a coach into Barrybados undetected and then got 2 taxis to Canton. Plan was to meet a few of the others at the top end and take a stroll back through Canton. Plenty of Cardiff miling around as we came through,clocked us so we knew if we got out 10 handed wed have been annihilated lol..we're game,not stupid 😅 plus didnt wanna fuck up the plans by attracting untold ob. Got to the top at some boozer to meet the others and started walking back down for a play up. As we started the trek heddlu landed but we carried on down. Fair few scuffles on the way down,some managed to get into one of the boozers and start a fire lol. Fair few missles getting lobbed into us from different boozers 😂 Got down the bottom where there was a decent sized boozer to the right of us. That emptied and more scuffles ensued with heddlu working overtime to try contain the situation. A few of us got out and managed to have a bit of fun until one of the yellow heddlu vans decided to run me over 😢😂 We then got rounded up and held up for a while before we got into Ninian where we got into a bit of a thing with ob,seats skimmed,few fisty cuffs etc..nice hot day aswell from what i recall. 06 the year i think.

Remember you lot on the pitch at Peterborough crazy days I'd like my scarf back please lol😂

The worse I've seen been involved in was ,,Radcliffe boro,away it was mental ,,,don't underestimate little clubs ,,,and that was around 1972 even to this day I don't know the score , oh and I never seen any police on the day

I'm not a hooligan but I remember years ago Coventry and Cardiff having a right good toe to toe in Cov City centre and I fucking shit myself at the time

8:25 as a Leicester fan back in the day we had some good run ins with Chelsea, Tottenham, Derby defo turned up, Stoke also. Also Walsall and wolves

The biggest gang in the midlands are the West Midlands police.

Check out the wba v millwall ruck. Proper battle

Northampton play off was the worst personally for me. Lots of casuals turned from everywhere to have a go We arrived and started fighting immediately with a pub me drove by with 2 mini buses 30 proper lads lakeys crew. As we started to get at the ground i could see groups of lads fighting and rolling down grass hill we got spicy again. Eventually in ground shit game 3.1 lose so we left early for the waiting mob of lads, from multiple clubs trying to fight our way up the hill. It got real messy Anais went down i grab him back up Stanley Colin was losing his shit! A English lad had a horrific face injury by bottle. The 50 lads that left the stadium early ended up being about 30 proper lads that went up tge hill and sown it my than 2 times Basically no arrests as well 😂

A picture of good physical and mental health, strength, and fitness does not come to mind when this video starts. Get to the library, lads. Believe me, there's probably one in your town and they have books in there, and they're free to read!!! You could also pick up a Jane Fonda workout video. Or you could just join a circus that travels outside Wales.

they forget Coventry in the 70s 80s good firm

Stoke N40 had a few do's with Cardiff over the years. Zulus are a decent mob, as are Wolves , Leicester's Baby Squad , the FEC at Forest, and Derby's DLF. But on any day, any can turn out. Cardiff, Plymouth and Pompey always seem to travel well ( in Lads numbers ) away. AussieMart.

nowadays in terms of numbers it’s Villa which makes sense considering how many fans they’ve got, Wolves aswell

I was 1 of the 10 to 20 boys at new street train station, who went up early. Dumb idea 😁

Don’t mention Villa and West Brom in the same conversation as Blues and Wolves!

The zulus were always a fairly well chilled out mob, as in, if you went to St Andrews just to watch the game and have a few beers you were reasonably welcome, but if you wanted to bring it and be disrespectful they were more than ready to have it on the cobbles with the best in the country.

I remember a couple of those run ins 🙂.... The mid 80's night match when Cardiff arrived on the Kop carpark about 15 minutes into the game. They were lobbing rocks up at the back of the Kop. Mid 90's, the group who arrived at New Street early. In our defence, we didn't get the message to leave that group alone, just a call to say they'd arrived. That bigger group that arrived later, was always going to get picked up by the OB. Seem to recall the scuffle at New Street was quite early, about 9.30am. He mentions Bar St. Martins, but that morning, we were in PJ's. The Canton incident.... I presume that was Brum's last game at Ninian ? If so, that's the lads off the coach that went to Barry Island. They then got taxis to the cricket club in Canton.

I’m a blue, never really in to fighting but around the games and pubs etc, so many at blues were game if needed, especially on away days, always strong. Cardiff are respected in that world, any good firms respect Cardiff. Stoke, wolves, West Brom are all good firms too. Villa, well, considering their following, their firm isn’t great lol

cardiff have always been rated, top 5 in many books, big respect from bcfc zw

Did you say you were in the Hurt You Bad graffiti studio? I used to go to their blog years ago. Where is the studio?

Remember in the 80s Birmingham got slapped there must of got shocked because there tried to ambush us but it went wrong in leicester town centre

What is the guy on the left wearing a speaker on his head?

I'm Arsenal and Zulus were head and shoulders above anyone in the Midlands.

Wella n I 2:14 went t wolves in a van Ivor ,Gregson ,many bods it kicked off ,got back too cardiff central ,the lads in van got stuck into Newport rugby fans 😀😀😂👍🏾💪🏾

The zulus bottled it when they went up against the GSE....that yank done one of your topboys as well.

Ask next time when Dundee went down

1 blues 2 wolves

The Apex and the sea crew of villa were the main firms in brum ,,, the junior blues became the Zulus ( brains and co )and the villa youth became the Seacrew ( black Danny & Lloyd , brittle ) … as for todays fans I wouldn’t know what’s going on but both those teams knew you had to go down to wolves with an army or suffer .

Turning up & having half your own citys risk I.D officers shoving cameras in your face is out of order, violating my Hull crew rights!.

Annis I know along with a fair few Soul Crew and I can see where your coming from with the Welsh thing because I am Welsh.As it goes the first off I saw was Cardiff at Blackpool oooh must have been either 87 or 88 was in Blackpool on a jolly went in for nothing with 20 mins to go in the Blackpool end... 20-30 Cardiff came in recognised a load as they were from Holyhead Jackie Welsh ,Googoo and a couple of others...came out the ground told the lads to talk Welsh hahaha . Boothen and the paddock in the Vic ... the graveyard used to be the place from what I'm told off older stokies and lads from Wolves and baggies .

Villa are underated, good lads, MCFC

Why put a question mark in the title when there isn't a question?

I don't think it is anything to do with being Welsh. Middlesbrough had a firm with a very good rep but you never hear about them in the media. I think its more to do with big city glamour. Why talk about Boro when you can do a story about Chelsea or West ham.

Went out with the nottingham forest lads once and saw some derby fan get his nose bit off

Cardiff and Birmingham missed boat against big boys would of been good against everton westham

He mentioned a lad 'Cookie' ... was that the lad from Port Talbot and he worked for a civil engineering outfit in Cardiff late 90's early 2000's?

When we getting Farrah and Jelly head on the other lads from the Docks?

N40 Stoke. Cheers

I don't think anyone disrespected you because you're Welsh; it might have something to do with your older, pre-Soul Crew following having a reputation for picking on shoppers and scarfers in the lower divisions. Your younger lads, including the 1980s skin'eads, were a better calibre than what had gone before. Would I be right in thinking the name 'Soul Crew' came about circa mid-'90s?

I used to go wolves late 70s early 80s. And wolves had by far the best firm in the Midlands. Blues ad the numbers but wolves add the proper lads. So many proper firms have been turned over at wolves. If u came looking for it u definitely got it

Stoke City's Forty

One time at band camp 🏕

Birmingham zulus no1 without a doubt

As if i have only just come across this there is only one proper firm from Apex 2 zulu ...Birmingham Yo the soul crew was rated fact

Love the graf on the walls. Cs UP! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🐦 #SoulCrew

Leicester were good back in the day and forest

Fair play to him for mentioning The Herd. I've been going to Arsenal for 40 odd years and although fighting isn't my thing, I worked with a couple of their Top Boys. Obviously I got on very well with them being a Gooner and people who know, like this fella, always mention The Herd. Of course Denton 'The Bear' R.I.P. was legendary years ago too. I remember walking to the pub through Highbury Fields after we played Cardiff in the F.A. Cup...well over 20 years ago. There were about 50 Cardiff (Soul Crew?) penned in by the O.B. looking extremely pissed off. They definitely hadn't been to the match and had got rumbled. 😊.

I can handle myself don't back down from anyone but i don't understand why making celebrities out of football thugs. It's a fukn game of football ffs sake.

Luton.were strong at home early 80s

Blues always get a kicking in cov

Birmingham City. No one comes close.

I hated changing new street back in the day, never knew if you would run into them, Birmingham were rough and turned up. Wolves I despise, they battered us in the subway when we were 16, guess everyone takes a beating but these were massive guys in there like 30s, just battering us. Also as a Leicester fan, I have never heard of riaz khan, way before my time, but you recognize or have heard of all the old faces that used to be into it.

Up the cobblers

Keep 'em coming😎👍

I'm so glad i know fuck all about foozball

Shrewsbury away little woods cup Cardiff away late eighties crazy

Seriously needs to grow up, those days are long gone..

Cardiff are like Manu renter mob

Io legion❤

cardiff got shit kicked out of them by brummy firm never had the ball to fk with leicester forest cov or derby lol

I put villa up there with Birmingham

Real lads always rated cardiff ⚽️👊🏻

I think fighting over football is probably the most pathetic thing ever lol

Fuck me, first Swindon was in London now Colchester is Midlands according to the ‘interviewer’. If they do a bit on northern firms he will probably mention Rangers and Celtic. Can tell he doesn’t actually do the football and just gushes over RU-vid clips from back in the day. Swim away lad

When the proper Zulu’s Turn out, Their no’1

when the cattle market got shut down in leicester cardiff and swansea stopped coming lol and derby wouldnt let them shag there sheep pmsl

Brummys zulus are top rated but wolves are a naughty firm aswell ❤

does this really matter its about away support numbers and attmosphere not 50 thugs Bristol city reall? bring about 800 fans to most grounds around the country Vlla forest Derby great away days at times coventry to

Wolves have had it with Cardiff stoke more than anyone else at Mol

I remember Oldham giving it Wolves on a night match in Oldham 1977. Oldham only had a smell crew😆

Birmingham, stoke forest my personal top 3.

2mins in.....So 100 of you were at one end of the subway calling wolves through an vice versa???????.....what utter nonesense

And then one day, rumour has it...........they all grew up to be adult's

Cardiff r game without a doubt BUT will neva b top 3 like Zulu Warriors wer/r wen it mattered #KRO

Chesterfield had it with u

Is this even a question everyone knows Birmingham city are easily the toughest

Any chance you can get Anthony Rivers on after Annis and Jonathan.

How can he comment on Midlands firms never played most of us till 2000s always in lower leagues70s 80s/90s .should of come in 70s and 80s and then give a opinion

Never really rated Birmingham! As a Swansea fan back in the 80s Wolves were the ones we had the most run ins with.Even with small numbers they were always up for it!

The CC = The 33

The Zulus are gone that was the 80s good firm but never done AVFC thats a fact

Jacknory snory bs😂😂

Glad you mentioned west brom bong bong baggies

Childish person ,one on one they wouldn't fight

From a Leeds fan.. Birmingham City

Michael hayes wallsall animal

Stoke, Wolves , Forest , Leicester , Blues were all more than decent in the heyday but Blues had far more incidents of note than most, including the biggies. Such as Palace , West Ham, Leeds , Spurs , Stoke, Wolves, Forest, Man U & Man City which all made national headline press.

No way I’m seeing Northampton town in the thumbnail😂😂😂