Carole Hooven on T: The Story of Testosterone, the Hormone that Dominates and Divides Us

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The Michael Shermer Show # 204
While most people agree that sex differences in human behavior exist, they disagree about the reasons. But the science is clear: testosterone is a potent force in human society, driving the bodies and behavior of the sexes apart.
But, as Carole Hooven shows in T, it does so in concert with genes and culture to produce a vast variety of male and female behavior. And, crucially, the fact that many sex differences are grounded in biology provides no support for restrictive gender norms or patriarchal values.
In understanding testosterone, we better understand ourselves and one another―and how we might build a fairer, safer society.
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Комментарии : 46

@TheOne-er7nk 2 года назад

Yes men get excited when a new woman shows up. Women get excited when more resources show up.

@DonaldAMisc 2 года назад

If I had a nickel for every time I heard the word "problematic" the past few years...😅

@christiangrey1214 2 года назад

Great guest! I love you Shermer, you're such an interesting human.

@hughjanus7176 2 года назад

I love Carole Hooven, she is great. I don't know why but she seems to have that motherly aura, she is very emotional and when they teared up at the Rogan podcast I teared up with them too.

@benmacloughlin2612 2 года назад

I love Carole Hooven too. She is fantastic

@robdielemans9189 2 года назад

Shermer forgot a couple of times that she is an expert on testosterone and not cultural differences. Great guest though.

@KevinArdala01 Год назад

Such a fascinating lady...great discussion. 👍

@9535310131 2 года назад

Whether Testosterone is also the hormone that protects? because people defending our country would have high testosterone levels than rest of the people.

@JW-bo3ql 2 года назад

Shermer kept forgetting that the whole point of this thing was for her to promote her book, and she kept finding clever ways to get the conversation back towards where she wanted it to go. It's like a master class in how to deal with men who aren't paying very much attention to what she's saying.

@cost2muchyup578 2 года назад

What about ADT Androgen deprivation therapy for prostate cancer? If my PSA begins to rise I don't think I'm going on ADT

@doncholio4108 Год назад

Is she interviewing shermer or is he interviewing Hooven ?

@Techadopter 2 года назад

‘Oestrogen in females does similar things but we are using different strategies’ Ain’t that the truth 😫

@Nic-xr8sd 2 года назад

What do you mean exactly??

@aresmars2003 2 года назад

Lots to agree with, but curious no mention of birth order for males, which changes development of the first born male baby versus following makes.

@ShapochkinKirill 2 года назад

How could you listen to this already?

@kungfreddie 2 года назад

I doubt genes know what order the child is. The difference is a social issue, if it gene its bcoz the wife been naughty.

@Nic-xr8sd 2 года назад

Cordelia Fine has not the same opinion about Testosterone..

@cbouma Год назад

Interview could be better if host did not talk over the guest- we are here to hear the expert not the host’s personal stories (biking) from the host. Please try to extract info from the host.

@BlunderCity 6 месяцев назад

Go on the mainstream media if you want interviews. These are conversation which is far more interesting than formulaic jounalism.

@WhizzingFish12 6 месяцев назад

@@BlunderCityI disagree - his interruptions make for very choppy and disjointed dialogue.

@lollyoneness5659 3 месяца назад

Testosterone interruptions. Man interrupting woman. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@alanbooth9217 2 года назад

after the more abstract themes of consciousness , realism etc I cant help but feeling that these debates on ' engineering' are pointless for you if as I understand you have already embraced the evolutionary argument tout court- reference your recent podcast with Richard Dawkins- are we going to introduce artificial breeding techniques/ chemical interventions and skew ' natural selection'. More generally you might consider natural selection soon obsolete anyhow as we become the ' intelligent designers'

@rorytennes8576 Год назад

I'm sick and tired of women complaining about being objectified. We do not only see you as sex objects. That is just your own myopic thinking. And if you don't want us to look, cover up so there is nothing to see

@WhizzingFish12 6 месяцев назад

Both sexes objectify each other differently. It's part of our wiring.

@natrone23 2 года назад

MPMD

@cobracommander8133 2 года назад

P R O B L E M A T I C

@robertomm6912 2 года назад

INCELs then can be fixed by a different female socialisation?

@mayflowerlash11 2 года назад

I'm sorry all this discussion about testosterone levels in trans athletes is bullshit. The fundamental difference is between XX and XY and this is easily established with a blood test and is not mutable. There is no technology which can change the sex chromosomes in every cell in a persons body. So the obvious and clear cut way to to qualify competitors is to confirm their sex chromosome status. End of debate. Stop pandering to the awoke idiots who want to "respect" trans athletes while "disrespecting" natural athletes by pretending that a male who "identifies" as females can compete fairly with females.

@aresmars2003 2 года назад

Agreed. The simple solution is to acknowledge Male sports as "First tier" and Female sports as "Second tier" so if women or transmen want to compete with men, go for it, if they can qualify, but the reverse should not happen. Intersex is a trickier problem for inclusion, but a tiny fraction of people, and objective genetics exist to defend the issues.

@mayflowerlash11 2 года назад

@@aresmars2003 Agreed. intersex individuals is a trickier problem, but I have not heard of any intersex people protesting about exclusion and this is because their circumstances are rare. I also think they have bigger problems in life than struggling to be included in women's sport. It's only males who identify as females and wish to compete in women's sports. BTW do these inclusionsists consider the rights of XX women who have worked hard at training for their chosen sport only to find when they get to an elite level they have to compete against a male who was born stronger than they are. That doesn't sound fair or just to XX women. And there have been several XY individuals who are self-identified women who have reverted to the male gender after competing in women's sport. Nice. Give me a break, woke ideology has been twisted so far it is contradicting itself.

@oliviamaynard9372 2 года назад

@@mayflowerlash11 Lots of interaex competitors have been in the Olympics. Castor the female runner is intersex. Many want her banned

@mayflowerlash11 2 года назад

@@oliviamaynard9372 I've just been reading up on chromosomal abnormalities. It is much more complex than simply XX or XY. And it seems that elite sport seems to attract those with ambiguities. Thank you for your reply, it motivated me to dig a little deeper.

@oliviamaynard9372 2 года назад

@@mayflowerlash11 My pleasure.

@WhizzingFish12 6 месяцев назад

Shermer is a TERRIBLE interviewer. He cannot shut up and let his guest - the expert in the field of their conversation - talk without endless interruptions and interjections. And while she talks about the impact of T reduction in trans competitors, there are many, many fundamental physiological advantages that post-pubertal males retain permanently.

@AndrewNuttallWearsPants 2 года назад

Shame on you for hosting the author of a book with such blatant misandry in the title.

@WhizzingFish12 6 месяцев назад

Shes not anti-male, but I agree that the title could have been less "triggering" for lack of a better word. Perhaps something like "The Hormone of Aggression and Protection."