The most direct and no nonsense Case 450 video EVER!!! Thanks for getting right to the point, most videos are like, "Today were gonna do bla, bla, bla, bla, then I'll get on to the bla, bla, bla, and if were lucky we'll talk about bla." You're the man, thanks for not being like them.
Thanks, I try to keep things simple and direct. I made this video for another you tuber because he was having trouble cross referencing filters and figuring out some things on his.
I agree with you: the best thing for a new owner to do is to buy the manuals. Spend a little $$$ and don't be a cheapskate by asking other people questions. I have the 450 loader version with the 4-in-1 Drott bucket. My friend and I went thru just about everything when I first serviced the loader: new filters, fluids, brakes, sprockets, chains, etc. Usually the brakes are gone on these machines because former owners/operators think that they are a pedal-steer tractor and they are NOT. The loader version is probably not the best machine to learn how to operate heavy equipment but on the other hand it has been very versatile.
I bid on a loader version a year or so ago at an auction but did not get it. Had the 4 in 1 also. Are you happy with yours? I would rather have a slightly bigger one but if I got another 450 I could change parts around on a machine that I am familiar with.
Thanks ! I couldn't find the Primary Filter Element at all, no search would come up a proper size. Upon searching the F961C I immediately recognized it even though mine look like a dilapidated paint roller.
No problem, I know how much trouble I went through learning mine so figured that I would help some people out. If you have any questions not covered in the video feel free to ask.
Thanks! I have videos comeing up of me replacing the tracks, I already have the rails and new tensioner on the left side and am now bolting on the new pads..
Our case 450b has a forestry mulcher attachment. It will not engage. The light will come on. I push the "down" button and still will not move. I have it on high pressure. Do you think this is just a fuse? Is there a particular fuse or do we check all of them?
I’m currently looking at buying a 450b tomorrow. It’s having trouble starting plenty of white smoke and turning over well. It was pretty cold the day I messed with it. I’m thinking spraying wd40 into the air intake. My question is the transmission dip stick showed on fluid when the machine wasn’t running. Is there a hose or something that could have lost all the transmission fluid? If I get it fired up without fluid I’m guessing it will not drive up onto the trailer?
I heard yours was a 1968, so I think you have the same type of track adjuster as me. I've done some research and before S/N 305* there was a snap ring at the rear of the adjuster. Do you have any experience taking that piston out? What I've done so far is move the idler forward and remove the 2 bolts and cylinder tube. The actual piston is still inside rear portion, but it's out of the cylinder tube. Any idea how to get that out of there? I'm fairly new to mechanics in general so any help is appreciated!
Have you ever had to replace the hydraulic hoses that run inside the loader arm? One of mine blew, but the thing is caked with mud and the hose isn't budging! Would you happen to have any tricks for this?
They are fairly common here in PA and probably else-ware. The big thing if you are moving down there I dont know how available parts are so you will want to bring some spare parts or make sure you go over it good before sending it down. The undercarriage is what most people overlook, if you dont know what to look for on it bring someone with that does because that is a bit pricey.
I can look tomorrow but I highly doubt you will find it anywhere. I believe it is standard pipe threads and you should be able to make one with some pipe and fittings. If you dont hear back from me make another comment so i see it and can look that up.
I've got a case 450 and just lost power to the drive, i havent been able to diagnose the reason why I lost power to the drive. any ideas where i should start?
So I did have that issue but first check the obvious things. Now mine has a weak charge pump for the torque converter so if parked for more than an hour or 2 it looses prime, the remedy to this is when you finally get it primed just keep it parked with the front facing downhill. Make sure that you are fully in either high or low range with the big lever on the floor of the dozer. Make sure there is the correct amount of fluid in the transmission/ torque converter. That is the dipstick under the seat. Then check the in line filter if that looks good. That will be on the side of the engine, (the right side as you are sitting in the seat) You take the 4 bolts out and there is a reusable filter in there, clean with diesel fuel then reinstall. If all that is good there is a good chance that you have the same problem I did. The valve body under the seat contains the 2 steering levers and the forward reverse lever. There are small c clips in the valve that hold the valve spools to the handle. I had a clip break off making it loose power to one track. It is not too hard to take the valve off and inspect it but be careful not to let anything fall into the transmission. If that is all good maybe something stripped out somewhere.
Hey, could you possibly do some measurements of the dozer blade side push beams from front to back, the moldboard angle adjustment supports from the the push beam to the top of the dozer blade, and measurements of how tall and how wide the dozer blade itself is? I’m making a 1/72 model of a US Army Case M450 Airborne bulldozer from the Vietnam War and have had trouble locating those measurements online. Thanks!
Do you know how many gallons of hydraulic oil it takes for the hydraulics? I just bought an old 450 B and the hydraulics were whining a bit when I lifted the blade. I shut it down and went and got a 2 1/2 gallon jug. Put it in and it still didn't get to what appears to be the dipstick on the top right hand side if you are sitting on dozer.
Yes you fill it on the right side of the seat. Mine takes somewhere between 10-15 gallons if I remember correctly. I run the 303 tractor hydraulic fluid from tractor supply and case brand fluid in the transmission.
@@endlessmountainwoodworks4278 I just picked up the tracl loader version of thise, thanks for the video! In an earlier post you said you used the TSC Premium fluid for the transmission, but this post says you use Case fluid. Did you switch for a reason?
@@tmacie2 I was using the tsc premium fluid in it with no bad effects. It worked fine but was time to change it again. I came across a pallet of it at an auction and got it cheap so I put that in the skidder and dozer. I did not notice a difference in performance.
I went to a radiator repair shop. They put a new core and a new bottom tank on and tested it. The only original part would be the top tank witch they re soldered onto the new core. I dont remember off the top of my head what the shop was but I can find out for you if you are in the area (northeast PA) My advice is just call around to a few radiator shops till you find someone that can do it.
I was hauling logs with my Case 450 A and all of a sudden it started losing power on the tracks and then stopped completely and later when I tried to start it, it started a little and then stopped again, what could be the problem?
Sounds like a fuel issue. Either out of fuel ( I know it sounds stupid but check to make sure the tank is at least 1/3 full if you are on a hill) or the fuel it not getting to or getting past the filters. SO check the sediment bowl at the bottom of the tank, and check that you have fuel at the primary and secondary filters. The filters could be clogged from not being changed in a while or you could have that diesel algae in the system that clogs everything.
@@endlessmountainwoodworks4278 I asked a man from whom I bought a bulldozer what the problem was, he said that it was leaking oil in the gearbox, I have had this problem since I was pulling a tree, then I ran into a stump, I went over the stump and since then there have been problems, I noticed later that the stump is greasy with oil, he says that I broke the oil drain plug from the gearbox, I wonder how much oil goes into the gearbox
@@FFW147 oh I get what you are saying now, first check the obvious that there is the correct amount of hydraulic transmission fluid on the dipstick under the seat. Assuming there is the correct amount there start it and first move the forward reverse selector between forward, neutral, and reverse and see if the torque converter pressure gauge moves at all. Then do the same thing for the left and right track testing them one at a time in all 3 positions. Let me know if the torque converter pressure changes at all with any of these tests and I can help you further.
@@FFW147 Just check the fluid level in the transmission / torque converter. The dipstick for that is the one under the seat. I can check in the book to let you know the correct amount of oil if needed. I would be surprised if you managed to break off the drain plug since it is pretty set back and protected
I am at the house now but going off memory there is a small plate that bolts on where the fuel line comes out of the tank. If that is there I would suggest flushing it with diesel and washing it out the bottom. If thats not there you can still do that but would be limited by the size of the fuel line. I will be up to the dozer tomorrow so I can check then if you need me to.
endlessmountainwoodworks there is a plate that is bolted at the bottom of the tank. That plate also has the pet cock. So what you’re saying is, unbolt that plate and try getting something in there to agitate the slime?
@@justinrobertson1590 I have in the past used Evapo-Rust to remove rust from parts. I would think that you could put that in the tank and let it sit for a day or 2. There are other rust treatments out there that would also work.
Hey, I recently picked up a older case 450..... was researching replacing the hydraulic/transmission fluid.... looks like case calls for there tch oil. Curious of what you decided to use?
For the hydraulic fluid I use the cheaper stuff at tractor supply, here is a link- www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/super-s-supertrac-303-tractor-hydraulic-fluid-5-gal?cm_vc=-10005 For the transmission/torque converter I use their premium oil, but any hight quality oil should work. You can also use this for the hydraulics if you want better oil- www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/traveller-premium-universal-tractor-trans-hydraulic-fluid?cm_vc=-10005 I think Case still has theit own version. I believe it is called Case HyTrans (hydraulic/ transmission)
endlessmountainwoodworks thanks, that’s pretty much the combo I planned on going with. you can actually get the tch oil from case, Some people seem to think it necessary. I know my machine has the cheaper tsp oil in it now..... and who knows what over the years.
I dont think that you have to have it, at least not in the hydraulics. My machine has performed well with the premium oil in the transmission/torque converter. If you have any other questions about maintenence or how to fix something let me know.
Some are, I can get more expensive ones for this but I am going with what it had before, they had 2500 hours on them of working in the woods which is very hard on tracks.
I dont know off hand but before I started buying the oil in bulk I was buying it in a 2 1/2 gallon jug and that was more than enough. i used 15w40 shell rotella.
The one in the tank is case part number D-33557 the other one (return) is case part number NSS or Baldwin PT290. If I remember correctly the one in the tank is to be cleaned rather than replaced but if you want to replace it anyway you can cross reference the Case part number. Here is a link to the suction filter. You can probably find one cheaper or cross reference it. www.amazon.com/High-Quality-Parts-GENUINE-ELEMENT/dp/B07CHVKBGJ?SubscriptionId=AKIAJJVHEYE2INXM57EA&tag=avspare109-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B07CHVKBGJ Hope that helps you
@@CptRedneck It worked pretty good for what it is. Keep in mind electric winches are slow and cant pull under full load for too long, but for pulling small to medium logs it worked well.
