I always have caption on anyway but I don't really need for these videos. I like that, but I read it still the hole time. I'm slightly hard hearing so it's a habit
The mother pretending to be her daughter is the most f-up thing I have ever seen. Who does that?!? The two older adults are directly responsible for that young man’s death.
@@somewherebetweenpsychotica9224 Because sometimes parents are not of a "boomer" as their teenage kids think they are. It's a common thing for teenagers to have risque pictures of themselves and very easy for young guys to pass them around. My daughters are terrified to do so because they know that I will KNOW, within a day of them posting them. Just like it took me a few days to figure out what handle my then 13 year old had to flirt with guys on Instagram. The real issue was the fact that she was saving those and using them in my opinion.
What if Thomas desided to kill Jessi as well, tracked down her address and ended up killing the womans daughter, the real Jessi, not knowing she didn't have anything to do with this whole triangle her mother had created! 😱 People just don't realize what kind of consequences their actions in the internet can have!
How anyone could converse with someone calling themselves “tallhotblonde”, “MarineSniper” or “beefcake” and think that person is a mature, emotionally and mentally stable adult is beyond me.
wait… “the pictures became more reveling” “jessie didn’t know her mother had taken these pictures” WHAAAT, how sick do you have to be to do this to your own daughter
I was thinking the same, or probably the mom was spying on her phone and using private pictures that she must be sending her bf, which is even fucked up
was looking for this comment. to me, that's the most disturbing part. i can't believe she didn't get charged for anything (cp, stalking, etc.). that's just sad :|
It's only pornography if it's explicitly sexually suggestive. The biggest thing she could have been charged for is Manslaughter 2. I'm no lawyer though.
I'm glad the real Jessi cut off contact with her mother. Stealing her identity like that is wrong in so many ways, and in my mind unforgivable. Would never be able to trust her again.
Tom didn't know that Mary was lying, so her lie shouldn't influence his sentence or guilt. In his mind, he had lied to this 18 year old girl and she moved on despite feeling conflicted. He felt so entitled to her affection that he murdered a young man. He is a terrible person, can't believe that they charged him with manslaughter when it was clearly a premeditated attack and his goal was to kill Brian.
100% agree that Mary had no culpability in the murder but I’ll just note that I had the same reaction to the manslaughter charge until I heard he got a 20 year sentence for it. If it was like a nickel or dime I would’ve been heated
the reason they charged him with 2nd degree murder, it was considered an act of passion, he was manipulated into believing a lie that left him in a delirious state of mind that led to a crime of passion (even though it was still premeditated 1st degree murder, which we know), the prosecutor didn't believe they could get a conviction for 1st degree murder, given the drama and cat fishing that occurred, so they opted to charge it to 2nd degree murder. however, his lawyer then stepped in and said, so my client will plead guilty to a lesser charge of manslaughter but will still be sentenced to the maximum amount of time, saving the town and you from gone to trial, setting the case or we will see you in court. clearly the da lacked a spine and agreed. he's still serving a lengthy sentence but ultimately its not Justice. considering many murderers get off serving less than 10yrs, at least he's behind bars. although, a more fitting sentence would be life with the real woman who manipulated both of them out of boredom
It's just sad that people get away with murdering someone, and get a Manslaughter charge. My best friend was murdered in the spring because the attacker thought that my best friend called him a name, which he didn't, and got stabbed once in the heart. He never had been in a fight in his entire life. The guy got a plea deal for manslaughter..... I miss him so much, everyone does. He was the nicest person I've ever met.
I know Someone Who Did this With Her newborn child. She sent Photo's of Her baby Just a few weeks born To Pedophiles on Different websites for money. She did weird ass shit and She found it haliruous, She First said She was just showing of her baby, But then it just got so much more disgusting as she described it. The cops know, But their unable to do anything since she isnt actually doing anything "wrong"
Jeanie Landry you mean thanks to marinesniper. it’s not her fault he was crazy enough to go kill a man because he was jealous that he stole his high school aged online girlfriend.
@@Pieceofchocolate1 well its both their fault then, she knows that the 2 men are coworkers, things can easily go out of hand... you don't dangle meat in front of an angry dog.
People who catfish others online (especially this woman who used her daughter's identity) should be charged with fraud and identity theft. Laws need to catch up to technological advances asap.
That third story doesn’t actually paint the whole picture. The cops knew almost instantly that he had killed himself, but they went along With the murder scenario just so they could secure overtime and funding. Given why he killed himself, I always found it ironic that the police investigating his death pretty much did the same thing on a lower scale individually, but much higher total.
The whole "this is the first time I've ever felt ashamed of another officer" quote was hilarious like it was supposed to be this powerful thing how rich is that
Wow a woman using her daughters photo to catfish a catfish and then a murder ensues? She should have had some sort of charges brought against her as well as Thomas. Even if it was simply conspiracy or accomplice. Something.....
I think the family should have fought to get some kind of law put in place for situations like this. As crazy as it is I’m sure this isn’t the only time something like this has happened
I know like these people picked the worst names ever for this. If I saw a user name Beefcake I'd literally just think it was Chris Hansen offering old perverted dudes a "seat right over there" ....
That third story is so embarrassing. I love how law enforcement has unlimited resources and effort when it comes to one of their own. But if an indigenous person or poc goes missing they’re suddenly strapped for cash and have their hands tied.
no shit sherlock . law enforcement cares more for people who matter or are innocent. there are countless homicides related to gangs in cities like chicago where you'd have to put the whole block in jail.
Nobody deserves to be married to a fantasy sex addict but it seems especially cruel to find out they are also psychotic enough to murder a young man for it too.
That goes to show how small this world really is. I’m watching this from the other side of the world and here you are. Someone who knows the subject’s wife. 😱
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I can’t believe the whole “Tallhotblond” thing.. she acted all upset that he had lied about his true age and life etc and here she was doing the same thing and even kept it up longer - with his young coworker! She never even apologized to anyone :(
Let's not forget she used her own daughter's pictures and persona to carry on with it. It's all a complete mess. Just be honest online about your situation in life. Especially if you think you will ever meet in real life.
I thought it was rather obvious especially after I heard that he was shot with his own gun. I was pretty sure he commited suicide and made it look like murder.
Agreed, I remember hearing about this case and the supposed reason for pretending to be killed in the line of duty was so that his wife would get his insurance and pension and thinking the investigation would be dropped. Those 'super' cops, as this guy was supposed to be, are often looked at with skeptical eyes by others, we had one in my area that did PR for the CHP talking about road safety for women. He turned out to have targeted and stalked women and killed at least one that we know of on his watch.
I know that in 2006 internet literacy wasn't nearly where it is today, but I still can't believe the guy fell for "hot blonde 18 year old volleyball player". I've fallen for that kind of thing before...but I was like 16/17 at the time. This was a 46 year old man. It was the most expected twist in history. That's really fucked up of the mom though. She used her own daughter as bait. It not only exploited her, but could have put her in danger.
Actually, most of the people that fall for such things are older people, like check dr Phil's catfish videos or something, there have literally been stories about older people giving like half a million and so on to these catfishes
I required the first guy from online I met IRL (when we were both teens) to take a photo of himself with a hand-written sign stating "I am not a pedo". I also talked to him and his parents over the phone. I guess it could have all been staged, theoretically, but he really was who he said he was, lol. We're still friends.
Everyone's talking about how obvious it is that talhotblonde was a catfish but I wanna point out how equally immidietely predictable it is that the cop wearing a "I jump out of planes and kill people"-shirt was an awful person
I’ll never forget those early internet days of being so disconnected in real life that I could only obsessively feel alive with hours chatting with ppl I’d never see. I don’t really miss that time, it was sad and lonely.
Oh man, I remember my IMVU days... Whole lot of different personas with my friend. Feel somewhat nostalgic about it too though, recently made a new user there, but it's indeed glad to know that now it's just like a relaxation thing at the end of the day (and mostly because I love the beautiful rooms and scenery there and well, random chatting is sometimes fun too), not the only world I can be...
I have definitely got to say that all three cases are absolutely bizarre. Individuals are so disturbed besides being disgusting as well!! And also I'll never understand why individuals do the things that they do.
The 2nd story starts off by telling us that old man Jack lived in a nursing home with his wife. Later in the story we are told that he was found dead in his own home with gun shot wounds!!
I didn't realize that there were two additional stories after the first. This almost 24 minutes has caused me to rethink relationships that I have. I live in a senior building where people don't realize that they are not thinking as well as they used to and maybe are developing some sort of senility. They forget the good things and ways that I've helped them and recently got angry at the drop of a hat. I was holding them accountable for their unsensible bad behavior but I realize they may not be able to help themselves. Sometimes it's best to let things go. Things could escalate into something as ugly as we have seen in this video. They were all otherwise normal people until they weren't !! We are complicated beings and there may be no safety net if things go wrong !! Thanks for the enlightment❤🎯👍!!!
I'm from Fox Lake, Illinois and yeah, that whole story was insane and the more we all learned, the crazier it got. They had schools and businesses shutdown while the manhunt was happening. People were genuinely scared
Me too man I met one of his kids too through an Ex. They honestly believed he was innocent. It was probably one of the crazier things that ever happened in the Wisconsin/Illinois border area in the last decade.
I live 3 min from Fox Lake and remember the case with Joe. They shut down my daughters school because of the “shooters on the loose”. He’s HATED here. The parades we had for him, and all the donations to his family! He’s disgusting!
That’s wild the sheriff was the sheriff of my county in the last one. I was otw home from school and there were checkpoints EVERYWHERE. My parents said something was fishy cause the press was REALLY quiet after a day or two and it turns out they were right.
@@broeheemed32 Why are you mad someone benefitted from stealing from rich people? I mean I'm Christian, stealing is wrong, but prison time for stealing from the greedy? Seems cruel. Maybe if she stole from the needy.
@@godwarrior3403 He stole from a kid's program fund. Kids who were interested to join law enforcement and possibly the military. How does that qualify as "the greedy"?
While she didn’t directly steal from the fund itself, that was Charles’ doing, she knowingly used the money stolen for her own benefit. That was what got her probation.
She may be a twisted person, but she is 100% not responsible for the murder. There is a long history of blaming women for men's rage and it needs to stop. Just because she was lying to these men, doesn't mean she is responsible for murder. That was Thomas's decision.
@@lythyboo they literally said “if she hadn’t used her daughters pics” and she wasn’t necessarily attracting pedos bc she was saying she was an adult and “dating” men who either were close in age to her persona or said they were
“this is my first time as a law enforcement officer, in my career, that i felt ashamed by the acts of another police officer” really? the first time?? none of that rampant corruption and murder of innocent suspects made you feel anything, huh?
Rushing to solve a crime where an office was the victim and not even recovering his texts and just everyone coming to his aid is actually really frustrating when you think about how hard it is for regular citizens to get help sometimes.
This Jessy case was crazy. Catfished a catfish... Learn from this: If your relationship has more drama then a soap opera, let it go. It is not worth it. No matter how hot your partner might be.
i was catfished once about 15 years ago on a game site. the guy confessed after we had been talking on private chat for a few weeks (just as friends). turns out he didn't think people would talk to him if he used his real photo. everything else he talked about was true. i forgave him, about a year later, i met him. long story short, one of my closest friends all these years later. guess i got lucky!
why is it called getting catfished when your chat friend has never intended to be anything more than friends, though? There's nothing to forgive there. I had picked male avatars or nicks occasionally on gaming sites and that had to do with me enjoying my character. And one of the gamers I used to pm with said something similar to me and I was like "excuse me?!" the stuff we talked about outside the game had nothing to do with genders. We did exchange personal info, but it had nothing to do with what genitals we had or who we hooked up with.
@@korkunctheterrible4302 Because it's lying. Look, if you're roleplaying a character on a roleplay server (like imvu or secondlife) that's one thing, but to be like "Hey Mandy! It's me, Candy, your also 14yo bffl!!!!" when you're actually Chuck, 49 from Michigan that's creepy as fuck.
I met a guy online when I was 21, on a TV show forum website, he told me he was 35, he was really almost 40. We met, and long story short, he’s my husband and my sons father now haha.
The first case reminded me of another internet related case I've heard of a long time ago and almost forgot. The case of a young boy planning his own murder over the internet by manipulating his friend. The case is named "Mark and John" since both boys were underage at the time. It would be interesting to see you cover this case, as there is a lot more going on in it. There's also a movie made after the case "u want me 2 kill him?"
Actually knew Joe. Lot of us did. When it all came out it was, it was really twisted. Sister and some of her friends had set up a fund raiser the whole thing was just. It felt like you were watching it all happen around you in slow mo. The whole thing was just, surreal.
I bet! That would be pretty overwhelming to be mourning a persons death, someone you personally knew, and in the following months, everything you thought you knew was BS.
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"This is my first time as an officer ashamed of another officer's actions" Based on history, that's pretty disgusting. There have ALWAYS been cops to be ashamed of.
Yeah i just got to that part (literally paused rn after that sentence) and just laughed. Of course. These assholes s-ent more resources to solve a case because one of their own died and they dont put that much effort to solve other cases. ACAB
@@valerierodger7700 what do you mean thats not what he said? That's EXACTLY what he said: "This is my first time as a law enforcement officer, in my career, that I felt ashamed by the acts of another officer." I paraphrased SLIGHTLY by taking out a couple words that were redundant, but I did not change the substance of what he said. And context doesn't matter. Any officer that says they've never been ashamed of another officer's actions is either dishonest...or horrible. I mean, that case took place in 2015. History is littered with bad officers. There have been a LOT of police officers who've acted badly. For that to be the FIRST he's ever been ashamed of...in 2015...well that doesn't say much for him.
@@heididepotter8136 I believe from the beginning of man's history one third of the human race at any given time are the fallen angels and they are the ones who live behind a mask.
I live in Lake County where the last story is from, and trust me when I say A LOT cops knew what good ol joe was getting up to, people higher up the ranks also knew all about it. What joe did to the explorers program, using it for his own personal fun was and still is a damn shame!!
I don't know what's scarier. The narrative of the last story, or the fact that the police officer at the end said that he's never felt ashamed of the acts of other police officers... huh, go figures.
I was Gi joe's neighbor and in his explorer program for my whole childhood. I still cant believe he would do something like that. there were rumors too that the angle of the gunshot couldn't have came from his own hand and it was also rumored he was investigating the chief for corruption. the whole thing was a mess.
On case #3 I can’t believe it’s been that long since that happened. It was a weird summer and when it happened we had a heat wave. The first night it happened many people stopped by dropping off food and water for the volunteers searching for evidence. That went on for at least a week or two. The area was locked down for a few days out of safety. So many people were trying to set up fundraisers. When the truth started coming out it was almost unbelievable. Then the love that was outpouring for his family started turning to anger as they found out his wife was also spending the money he embezzled and was in on it. He committed suicide to try to get his wife insurance money and his pension.
Please explore the Pittsburg, CA police officers robbing a Safeway grocery store and murdering the store manager in a desolate field in 1988. Ex- Officer's name is Eric Bergen
Actually, something is off. The second case, that 83 yo guy was living in a nursery home with his wife yet no one found him until the next day? Very suspicious.
Damn at least Tomas used his own photos😭😭 But the real question....how in the hell did she get explicit photos of her daughter 😶 and why weren't red flags raised when she was taking them. Or even bigger plot twist😳 it was actually her daughter and she was just lying and protecting her😳😳
@@ashleyloki4457 I read about it a little and it seems like you're correct in that "life" is usually 15 years and then possibly parole. BUT some sentences are life without the possibility of parole, and that means they will be incarcerated for the rest of their natural life until death. That can be appealed of course but yeah. Its interesting
I'm not surprised they couldn't charge her for the death, but surely taking "provocative" photos of her daughter without her knowledge had to be SOME kind of crime???? Right????
When I was 14, I chose the username "closet swinger". I didn't know what it meant, but I thought it sounded cool. No wonder I had so many weirdos try to chat with me. My poor parents must've been horrified. Since I didn't know what it was, I didn't try to hide it from them.
I remember I had just put my son on the school bus. When I heard gun shots down the street I went inside & seen the news about Charles... literally down the street from me...
Thomas has the nerve to feel betrayed by Jessie?? how can someone have zero self awareness. You expect to just catfish her and trick her into loving an old man, and just be ok with that? Brian didn’t still her from u… she didn’t want to be with you not because of ur age, but because of ur LIES. Because how could she trust someone who lied ??? And not only lied but manipulated and didn’t even admit that he was wrong and basically expected her to just be totally cool with what he was doing ** just saw the plot twist but tbh Tom didn’t know Jessie’s true identity so what I said still stands. As for Mary, the fact she did that to her own daughter is despicable… and never apologized ? We
I actually met one of Charles' kids back in 2017. My ex at the time was friends with the kids and they went to the same highschool. I lived about 20mins from fox lake and I remember watching all of the searches and the funeral profession on the news. When I met one of his kids they still believed that he was innocent and all the media was lying. They also mentioned how their mom was probably going to jail as well. It was honestly awful to see how this devastated the kids. I don't think anyone expected it. I feel awful for them and I can't imagine having everyone you know convinced your dad was an awful person. After seeing this video I'm more sure that all the media and what my parents said was true. I honestly didn't want to believe it.
@@ExploreWithUs I would love for you to cover the disappearance of Amber Wilde that took place in Wisconsin. It’s been unsolved since 1998 but very interesting details leading up to disappearance.
I feel like there’s some kind of ironic metaphor about how Charles, a police officer who was celebrated after his death was really the criminal all along
I live in the town that glenowitz was a cop in, I was in lockdown at school for 6 hours the day it happened and we had school cancelled the next day because they were looking for the "perpetrators"
I live near Murfreesboro TN which was the location of the 2nd murder. With respect, I am interested how you chose to include that case? I like it when you include those from middle TN area!👍 keep em coming, fam!
The craziest thing is once “Jessie” found out he was HER AGE maybe they could have divorced their partners and got together. Clearly they are a match made in h3ll, with the compulsive lying. It’s still an insane outcome but at least an innocent man’s life wouldn’t be over.
22:55 _"This is my first time as a law enforcement officer, in my career, that I felt ashamed by the acts of another police officer."_ Me: **Takes a deep drag off my cigarette** First time, huh?
Revisiting the past few years of videos just to make sure that I didn't fall asleep to them and I think that I did to this one cause I don't remember it. (I completely enjoy your narration and how well the stories are put together, are fluid in every way, despite the horrifying stories it's just kinda soothing). I can't be the only one!😊
