@@grahammichaelastley As far as communications, it appears that all you had was just a cell phone. Have you considered using two way radios with APRS( a form of GPS) to radio for armed back up and/or an armed assistance?
Kudos to Lloyd, he barely flinched and you could tell he trusted Leo. He kept pressed back against the seat to not reduce visibility and kept his mouth shut and followed orders. Good team work.
I’m confused. He hit the Audi then he got stuck on the pillars. And the Audi was stuck as well. So when he opened the door, did they get into a fire fight?
Dude was frightened so much he froze how was that teamwork lol. You can even see he was giving back the rifle when the driver handed it to him. Bro he was driving lol why would you hand him the weapon. The good thing is he did not panic but again that can be attributed to shock.
I noticed that right away. He was driving normally then all of a sudden he was checking every mirror in the truck constantly. He knew something was coming.
Imagine getting pissed at a guy on his first week because he doesnt have the capabilities of a super solider. Man did his job, stayed calm, and supported his superior in every scenario. The guy deserves a raise tbh
What he was supposed to do?...his superior didn't order him anything, they were in bulletproof van, and it was his 4th day of training..opening car window would been dangerous...so only thing he was able to do was to keep calm..and he did it
Lloyd couldn't have done anything anyway - the vehicle was armored and didn't have firing ports, and besides it was fleeing on it's wheels at high speed. As Leo notes, the protocol is to flee and absorb incoming fire until you can't flee anymore - only then do you exit and fight. That would have been Lloyd's job, to back up Leo in a ground fight with the M4, but thankfully it wasn't necessary.
Love how he defended his partners conduct. It's true to say that the average person critiquing his partner would not be someone you would want next to you in a firefight.
@@grahammichaelastleydoes anyone know what happened after the vehicle stalled and he got out? Did he have to fire his weapon to defend themselves in that position?
@@frankbeans5921 - There was a brief shoot out after he got stuck, but they ran the robbers off pretty quick and there's no video of it, just audio with the same interior cam. I saw it back when this incident first went viral.
@@grahammichaelastley For some reason this reminded me of a bank robbery where every single employee of the bank got killed even the female employees who went to hide in the toilet were killed right then and there. The investigators said, whoever did the robbery had inside help and the employees probably knew the robbers' identities.
@@echohunter4199 it was his fourth day. He kept his mouth shut, and his back against the seat so the driver could see. It would have been useless for him to do anything else. You want him to roll down the bulletproof window and return fire?? Expose himself and his partner for nothing? You’d be shitting yourself if you’d been in that passenger seat. Give me a break!
@@MrStark-up6fiThis is the story just about no matter where you go. In the police force there's not good cops and bad cops, there's just cops who use their power to harm their own communities and cops who do nothing about it because they fear for their lives. The cops who do try to do something get killed in "training programs", suicide missions, or just get fired for crossing the thin blue line. It's not as simple as "fire those cops" when often it's entire deputy gangs in control of entire departments.
@@MR-jz5mr you don't know that . For example, there were hundreds of skilled and courageous black men in the Rhodesian army who demonstrated calm under fire.
@@fraseredk7433 Look at how he's trying to hand the gun back to the driver but he's too busy handling the situation it's visibly obvious the passenger was frozen in fear.
When I first watched the video I was amazed by how well Lloyd behaved in that situation. I mean the driver was occupied driving and Lloyd could have easily panicked and done something stupid like accidentally shooting his gun or start distracting the driver but he stayed calm, watched his trigger finger and prepared as much as he could in that moment. Great job in my opinion
Exactly! I can’t imagine being shot at or what I would do and I can’t believe anyone just sitting at home would suggest anything or criticize in any way. Mad respect for them both.
What is remarkable to me ,is Mr Prinsloo's clear observation skills and situational awareness. For someone who didnt realize something was up, until the shots were already coming in, he found the bad guys, and assessed the situation accurately super quickly, especially while everyone was in fast moving vehicles. He knew exactly who and where the badguys were, and accurately assessed what they were doing, and was even able to calmly relay this information, while defensively driving and getting shot at. This man is CLEARLY very good at what he does
The short video popped up in my feed again today and i am so glad I decided to look for a longer video. Absolute rock stars, the both of them. Lloyd handled business and became part of legend 4 days into his job! I would’ve been like one of those people you see passing out on theme park rides.
You could tell Lloyd was less experienced maybe even in his first firefight but his 4TH DAY, that level of calm and composure shows hes a truer warrior than anyone commenting criticisms online. You both did amazing and being able to watch you and your partner keep eachother alive was a work in the art of human cooperation in the face of adversity. Damn good job both of yall 👏
This is a great presentation showing what all went on and what happened. Makes the whole situation much clearer! That man Prinsloo did amazingly well! His sidekick handled it very well!
He started driving the wrong way down the highway then changed his mind and drove toward the attacking car who then had a clear shot of his front windscreen. After that he stranded the truck on the stones like a beached whale.
Very articulate, honest, informative and humble. 99% of people in his spot would have crumbled. He rolled with it and remained calm. What an absolute legend!
Lloyd look scared shitless at firdt but like Leo said he stayed calm and helped them get through it by staying compossed then you find out its his 4th day on the job. Well done by both men in a job most if not all people wouldn't go near.
He didn’t look scared at all. There just wasn’t anything for him to do at the moment he became hyper-aware so you’re left with his face to focus on, instead of action movie antics. They both looked Concerned and Engaged, and that’s what we’d hope for, but nobody looked “scared shitless”. That looks very different. When the first bullets hit, he had no direct view or mirror view of anything other than an ordinary day on the road, so it was his job to stay aware and wait for his lead’s instructions, which he did calmly and without being a distraction by engaging in unhelpful conversation.
Especially when dealing with trained and orga ized operatives. Chaos is usually best. The other guys also had a plan, the had Intel and information, they likely had observed how these guys operate and respond a time or 2. Even if they hadn't, they had an idea of what they might do in the situation... the best laid plans never survive first contact. Which is why it's good to have a plan. But be ready to use the OODA-Loop to alter and adjust on the fly. And especially when you're the one on defense, being sporadic and unpredictable is your friend.
@lukasg4807 but this is a PRIME EXAMPLE of OODA-Loopà en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop The founder of the theory, John Richard Boyd, (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boyd_(military_strategist)) would boast that he could outsmart or outmaneuver almost any top pilot in a dog fight in almost any aircraft within 60 seconds of the initiation of Arial combat. And many times proved it to be so, even when he was at a disadvantage. Proactive vs reactive. If you can think faster and develop ways to keep an opponent reactive rather than proactive, you can often times eventually gain the upper hand by generating a situation where they error, and then using that slight opportunity to exploit the error or lapse in defense. Think 2 boxers in the arena. One is clearly bigger and has a lot more mass (E=MC²) and thus more kinetic energy behind his punch. Where the other opponent is considerably smaller, but more agile and thinks faster. If the larger opponent gets a clear opportunity to land a direct blow, it's game over in a 1 hit KO, but if the smaller more agile opponent can create false opening, in anticipation of the larger opponent taking the bait, the smaller opponent can dodge or deflect and counter strike with less energy, but more swiftness. This causes an interrupt to the larger opponents ooda-loop and sets him off guard/off balance while he tried to catch up to "what the hell just happened?" Now the smaller opponent has the advantage of not only being one loop ahead of his opponent, but also keep changing the situation to keep the larger opponent on the defense/reactive. As long as the larger opponent is reactive, he's being drained of resources (In this case, energy, both physically, cognitively, mentally, etc. He's going to suffer stress and fatigue), while also activity looking for his own opportunity to strike proactively. And here is why generally larger, stronger and more well funded militaries have so often failed when presented with a smaller enemy who doesn't play by the rules. At least throughout history. I mean... the Australian army lost a war against Emu's. This is also why nobody wants to fight a crack/meth head. Because we instinctively know we can't win against fast, ampped uo, immune to fatigue humans with much more agility.
The driver is like a James Bond guy in action, cool, calm, collected and ready to go. Thinking on his feet. I have to say many men just could not cut the mustard as he did that day.
It's truly amazing to watch someone's training kick in the way his did. Not a moment of panic, just the training taking over. The closest I've come was when my EMS & EVOC training has kicked in. This man is a legend.
Its brutally apparent the difference between "first time at the rodeo" and "here's another rodeo with the damned clowns again". Hats off though to the passenger for showing discipline and staying quiet and aware during the robbery...not making a bad situation so much worse.
Yeah, it would have been helpful if he was more observant and gave the driver more info in regards to where the bad guys are so they could line up better hits etc and could have phoned backup immediately.
This still blows my mind, I go back and watch the dash cam footage regularly just to remind myself how alert reactive and calm the driver was, how sharp his driving was, how calm the passenger was. These 2 amaze me. Leo is so right about the armchair critics, until you are in the situation you don't know what you will do in that moment with what you know at the time!!! These guys are legends!!! I can't imagine I would be that calm on my 4th day in a job either. I'm a bit late to this video with all 3 cameras and the interview at the end, and now I have seen all the angles I am even more impressed!!!
This just really enforces the importance of great training and experience. So many times people don't take training seriously. This just proves how important it is to take all training seriously so that when SHTF, you can react hopefully half as well as these two. Absolutely amazing.
Exceptional conduct by both in an extreme life threatening situation. Not losing control of the vehicle was the most important factor and that took real skill and determination.
That was a 15 min adrenaline packed ride. Incredible! You did everything right because in the end, you both survived. The vehicle did its job as well. But did not seem to give either of you much room if you needed to return fire, and how would you have no ports? Of course, a turret on roof would have been extremely helpful. Good luck getting one of those. Lol Good job!
They need another armed vehicle tracking them, if that was done it would be much harder for the gangs to overcome, cuz the gangs would be under fire immediately
Turrets on the roof.. well the gangbangers have um why can't dudes like this?? Lol seriously if this is a constant issue you would think thats the exact kind of thing they would start doing.. screw it put some rpgs up there too😅
This video and Mr Prinsloo's experience and coolheaded nature is just something of a Legend at this point. If there wasn't video of this, most of us would be saying its a tall tale.
Lloyd did a fantastic job. Think about what it would be like in the passenger seat without any control. He remained calm in a situation where he wasn't driving. He was ready for whatever came next, which very well could have been a rollover or crash. He wasn't asking Leo what he was going to do next or for him to state his plan in the moment, which would have pulled some of his processing power from him. He remained present and ready, which is EXACTLY what was needed.
With dash cam I didn't realize he did the first u turn to avoid the leading cars and then does another u turn because of on-coming traffic then turns around to prepare and aviod the leading cars road block. Good technique and good manevour.
Coolness under tremendous pressure! total professional, probably military trained, had situational awareness during the whole episode, instant decision making to changing situation.
It's pretty typical for ex police and military to turn to crime in places where the government isn't exactly stable and aren't always able to steadily pay wages salaries and pensions. A lot of ISIS fighters in Iraq are ex-security forces. Lack of economy and jobs creates hell for people
I lived in South Africa for almost 2 years. It doesn't surprise me at all. Some cops tried to put a target on my back for the criminals in Mamelodi township. They made it clear that they didn't want us in their township. I was there helping people, and even though we got robbed, I didn't stop going into the township. I just basically learned to be careful of both the criminals and the police.
I just found out on the web that the driver received death threats when this video went viral two years ago. This information was posted on 7 May, 2021 01:45 AM. Leo Prinsloo, 48, a former police sniper and 12-year veteran of the elite South African Police Service Special Task Force, earned worldwide fame after footage of the failed heist was published online. But Deon Coetzee, managing director of Prinsloo's employer Fortis Pro Active Defence Solutions, told News24 the former cop had received death threats following the media attention. He said the company had assigned a protective security detail to Prinsloo and his family. "Because of whoever is behind the organised crime, [Prinsloo] has received death threats on his life, so we are just taking it seriously," Coetzee said on Wednesday.
the video of him talking about the vehicle and showing where things hit and how it is protected etc and what he was thinking and why, is a good one too!
I saw a young warrior listing to his leader, kid did great. I’d rather have someone filing instructions and providing very little assistance than someone who I need to worry about. As you said, there wasn’t much for him to do and he handled the tasks you gave him well enough.
Clearly he needed to open the door, jump out sideways, in slow motion naturally, and headshot all the baddies. Then say something in appropriate but hilarious like, 'consider that a divorce', or 'I'll have what she's having'.
I like to say these two guys did what they thought at the time was safe Leo and Lloyd are hero’s they did the best thing they could and used the vehicle as a weapon to stay alive congratulations too both of you. To anyone who claims they could do Better or mocks these men on there actions you need your heads read or your brain examined LEO and Lloyd are hero’s so leave them alone.
So laat night I watched this video. Tonight on my way home from the gas station I almost got highjacked during the chase for reasons unknown I was thinking about Leon and how he kept his cool and thanks to that I kept calm during the chase and got away unharmed. So in a way I think Leon saved me. My ordeal took place in Pretoria Vastfontein dirt roads.
Robbers didn't came back. For the robbers, its usually first few minutes they have to get in control otherwise its too late as police is already notified. They could have encircled and shot when vehicle was stuck. Robbers obviously had much greater firepower and had multiple shooters but it was too late for that.
08:00-08:30 he chased the robbers' Audi, they pulled onto a driveway of a hotel, he crashed into them, but then got the van stuck. By the time he'd gotten out, the robbers had fled the scene.
That was Lloyd's 4th day on the job? Dude was super chill for that. You can see the worry on his face, but he stayed composed. Don't see why anyone would have any criticisms of him. Great driving by Leo, aside from the whole getting beached on a wall bit, which was probably the dumbest thing to do right then. Should've used it as an opportunity to escape once he pushed the other car over, but thankfully it worked out.
They shot out his right front tire early in the incident. So he was doing what he could with what he had at that moment. I am not going to Monday morning quarterback his performance!
