I'm very happy that I was told very early on to learn japanese through the "dictionary form" first and learn politeness later, it's actually way more logical this way.
Found you the other day out of the blue and since then I have become a loyal audience. I wish I could have found you earlier but anyway never too late to learn it. You make the way of learning Japanese is much more interesting and enjoyable!
This last month I've been learning Japanese, and your content in combination with Tokini Andy is insane. It's crazy that I can learn something like this for free. ありがとうございま!
Yea! You can ! I won't say it's every university but its in enough schools for a major lol . I'm sure it you look up Japanese Majors in your country you should find at least 1 school
You have such helpful videos! I was just feeling behind in my studies because many programs and books (like Pimsleur audio lessons) almost always use the polite form. I get stuff like Pimsleur is designed more towards having a functional speaking ability when traveling, but it would definitely be better in building a stronger Japanese language foundation longterm if they taught the dictionary form first and then moved to the polite form from there. When I visit Japan, I feel like I won't have any clue what a person is saying if it's not in the polite form at this point 😅. Thanks for the help!
This video helped me understand the language a lot better. Thank you so much Matt for this awesome video. I really appreciate your way of teaching and explaining. Looking forward to more such videos in the future!❤
interesting to know that kids in japan learn in the more casual style and in lessons we usually start with the more polite forms. why don't people teach the base forms more?
They want you to be prepared at any stage of your learning to be able to talk japanese if you were to go to Japan, and the first time you'll speak in japanese will be with strangers so the polite form is the requirred form
@@matoikazamaki9522 Exactly! That’s why I think it’s very useful for Japanese learners to start with the ます form. Then, as you get better at Japanese, you earn the right to speak the casual (or 辞書形) form.
@@SonarHD structurally its better to learn casual first (its "base form", contextualizes verb usages inside of a sentence, prevents common misconceptions, etc etc), if you arent in a rush to get speaking out then it can be argued that learning keigo first can stunt you a bit but most textbooks are for classroom environments where speaking skills are developed alongside reading / grammar and thus polite is taught first Both are important to get good at, maybe equally so, but ofc depending on what you want out of the language the priority changes, and id say for most people, unless you need to speak right away after starting or need the language for business I would prefer to start with base form / casual
@@Trexrush1 The thing about learning the ます form, or 丁寧語, first is that it has two main benefits: First, the ます form is very easy to learn how to conjugate verbs with; and 2nd because it has a normal level of politeness (unlike 尊敬語 or 謙譲語, which are harder and more niche, if you will). As was mentioned earlier, most people you’ll speak to in Japanese are going to be strangers, so learning polite Japanese is ideal. Textbooks teach it since you’re probably going to be using them in a classroom environment. Imagine talking to your teacher using the plain form (Not a very Japanese thing to do, lol). Also, a lot of people learn Japanese for work, so it’s going to be more beneficial for them to start with 丁寧語. It just makes more sense to teach 丁寧語 first, unless you’re learning on your own. And even then, you’ll eventually want to either hire a teacher or find someone on HelloTalk to practice with. Wouldn’t it be better to be on the safe side and speak politely to them? 😊
I'm going through your "Complete Genki Series (Lesson 1-12)" playlist and it has this video, as well as some other videos, twice. There's also one video that is hidden, pretty sure it's Lesson 4- because it jumped from 3 to 5
Videos like this are great. Even though I pretty much already know the information, it's always a good refresher. And the numerous video game examples are a big help to embed it in your mind.
"Nanako, soto ga ame da! Sentakumono ha doushita?!" was the first thing popping my mind when seeing the thumbnail with the title, couldnt pick for a better 😂
Matt, there is a game i heard about called Noun town where you select a language you want to learn and the town gains colour as you learn what things are called . Might be worth checking out
There is yes, however from 8 on wards I released them as playlists rather than one video, sorry for the confusion! But all of the grammar is covered in Lesson 9 playlist ru-vid.com/group/PLT12i1gB38HGCsy245MdF18Ad7SxpdOnQ
Being overly polite with someone can definitely create distance between the speaker and the listener. Often learners who learn polite speech only, end up sounding very distant sounding when trying to speak with friends if they use polite speech all the time. This is not to say you shouldn't use polite speech, however its important for learners to be aware that it can create distance. There is no misinformation here. Everything on this channel comes from my own experience and is also checked by native Japanese speakers. Being polite doesnt always mean you're being fake, however it CAN be used to create that distance from the speaker and listener. Think about it. Even in English it can function the same way :) Japanese native extra note (from Game Gengo team): in Japanese polite speech can express polteness but also distance. Casual speech can express closeness, but can also be rude sometimes when used in the wrong situation. Its alllll about the relation with who youre speaking with
