1:45 I think frost deal less damage comparatively than fire when the mage is being trained, but in RMP it really doesn't matter since the mages meaningful damage is being done during setups. My point is, I think RMP is the best comp for frost mage, it may or may not be better with fire, but thats not my point
Hozito, I love your videos and have been following you for a while now! :) Question: When you talk about triple DPS being op, do you mean any three DPS? Or just the "official" triple DPS team?
@@Hozitojones That's helpful, thank you! (And makes me feel better about me and my friends not doing super great with our three DPS lol feral, udk, and ret)
@@BigTeenyyea that comp doesn’t have enough CC to make it broken. And if your feral gets trained you lose pretty much all the CC in your team. Ret/rogue/Hunter is so OP cause they can literally CC 2 dps while they one shot the healer. On top of that they have smoke bomb which makes everything much harder to play against.
@@andrecardoso6941 That is really helpful insight, thank you!! We thought we might be OK playing an off meta comp, but pretty much everyone we've come up against has been one of the teams Hozito reviewed haha
Thanks for the tier list, always interesting to see! I just started cata playing rogue with a friend playing hpala - Can these two classes work in any combination with a 3rd or maybe in 2s?
I know that war and disc arent that good compared to other comps in 2s, but do you think, difficulty wise is it way more difficult than for example priest/rogue or priest/mage to achieve 2k+ ?
Liking cata so far and your videos. Just wondering what comp you would suggest as someone who is trying to get better at arena as a warlock or ret pala. Games seem so fast paced and sometimes it's difficult to figure out what you could do better and learn.
hey hozi, love your videos, what u think about sp/dk/rshammn, or change the dk for a ret? I know its not high tier comp, but just wanna play it with friends i have xD
Hey. I've played some rps with some friends a few days ago and its honestly not that bad. Its certainly not a S tier comp, but if played good it can most definitely be close to A tier easily.
@@johnlappa5447 i have aswell, we are fairly experienced players and do a decent job vs most comps but it just feels like going disc and finding a mage would be insta rating. i wanna know whether it does get stronger late seasons or if its still gonna be one or two tiers below other comps, in which case i would probably just play rmp
@@TheWowzz I haven't played OG Cata so I wouldn't know how much better the comp gets later on, but I do know spriest as a spec gets better. Therefore I would assume the comp also gets better naturally as we progress into later phases/seasons. Currently the main downside to playing spriests (from my observation) is that their mana runs out quick in longer games than usual and its not a sustainable support class because of that reason only. Outside of that, it actually does some good damage, granted you aren't being completely shut down from start to finish.
@@miguelfalcao20 I mean they are a profesional team that have been competing together since ages ladder for a profesional team is a joke is not realistic to say just because one team is number one the comp is the best they can get r1 ladder as any comp if they want also yeah I play any comp with any people to ask me to q with if I only played one comp with the same people all the time I would def be up there no matter what with insane win ratio
@@Hozitojones 1) just because a team swapped team comp to better deal with something doesn’t mean the comp isn’t still S. Tier. 2) there is more than one vangaurds comp in the top hundred. It’s just the most well known example to point out. I think vanguard deserves S tier. 3) I hole heartedly respect your opinion and appreciate the content. Your video said to comment things we disagreed with. 4) The perfect parallel here to a team that you have in S tier is RMP Vs Jungle. It’s a team that you can win against but they are naturally going to be difficult games. Vanguards can beat wizards. But some wizard comps will naturally prove difficult. Again thank you for the content. I enjoyed the video and subbed.
Ret rogue right ? I haven’t seen anyone qin it besides 2s I played it back in tbc lmao I think rshaman fits this comp better or even disc i feel like u gotta play super aggro so priest fear on goes might be nice and r shaman could be more consistent for longer games
I think it has potential same as sp dk but sp dk is more like set up based comp with grip goes with the lock I feel like u can have insane spread pressure but issue that I c is that lock is gonna be dying ezly since dk don’t have enough peels
@@Hozitojones but they have made pvp changes to classic! dont lose hope! like being abble to do crossrealm party to play with other people, there are no more teams and you can play with anyone, gladiator titles and rewards only for 3s, the increased weekly conquest cap of 4k points and that you can catch up with any Alt character! PvP is better than ever, please pray so we can get solo Q! that would be awesome dudee, literally a dream come true for all of us Cataclysm PvP fans! :D
My Druid is about to hit 85. I wa gonna go boomkin because it’s my main on retail, and it’s incredibly fun in bgs, but now I’m thinking feral for arena 😱 boomy is still awesome in arena? Just need peels i guess.