Turns out I missed adding in a lot of things in post, probably because it was my 17th hour of editing and my brain was fried, sorry about that, here's the info I missed: -Big Spiders cannot be revived if killed by Spore Puffs or Flashbangs, if drowned, if their health is below -8, or if fully eaten by slugcat. -Leviathan Aggression sheet has them eat everything except other leviathans and overseers -Gooieducks are named after the Geoduck clam, which is pronounced the same way, and they look like they have a massive uncut cock coming out of their shell. -Spore Puffs kill Batflies, Centipedes, Spiders, Dropwigs, Eggbugs, Noodleflies, Squidcadas, and Stowaways If I missed anything else in the editing then tell me in this thread and I'll add onto the pinned comment
I would like to mention that miros vultures will antagonize the creatures they derived from(Vultures and Miros birds). According to the wiki, regular vultures are afraid of them, but king vultures will outright kill them. Miros birds seem to just antagonize miros vultures back.
Even though they're only naturally found in the Saint's time, strawberry lizards can technically be encountered in other campaigns through the lineage system. This doesn't necessarily contradict your theories on their evolution.... it just raises a lot of questions about how lineaging works.
@@JODA93 He doesn’t kill you if you take a pearl. He instead has dialogue when you take one of his pearls. He says something along the lines of “Yes, help yourself. They are not edible.”
@@tiggywoovit5955 I don't think it is that far of a stretch to assume that if the Chieftain went to Pebbles after getting the citizen drone, he would most certainly be forced to give the chieftain guidance and the mark, and also couldn't hurt him. So, because of his permanent programming, Pebbles would involuntarily need to give it to the chieftain.
Moon also mentioned the scavs bring her things from time to time so while it’s likely pebbles gave them the mark of communication it’s very possible Moon has met the chieftain.
@@TheSandwhichman108 I do not think Moon is accessible at all during Artificer’s campaign but it could still be possible in some way or form… we’ll just never know how sadly.
@@kairosiscool5062 You’re right…The chieftain would have been long dead by the time Hunter arrives to (sort of) revive moon. Having been killed by Arti’s hands. She was probably still alive most likely left to somewhere very out of the way to most likely wallow in her sorrows knowing nothing she does will ever erase the pain of watching both her children die.
Correction: slugcats are New York City subway rats. This is shown by their intelligence, navigation of pipes, and ability to propel rebar with sufficient speed to penetrate concrete. This is the beginning of my theory that rain world takes place in New York City, with the dual implication that five pebbles liked pizza and that NSH may be from New Jersey (explaining his erratic behavior).
My headcannon for spore puffs is that they were purposed as a form of insectiside to remove pests from crops, hence them being solely located around the farms. then they had the issue of how to spread the spores over a large area consistently, hence they purposed the rain deers precursors, which had pointy feet to aerate the soil but not disturb crops, they ate the spore puffs and the spores would get caught in their wool and spread through their feces, making a very efficient automatic pest control.
@@Gront517 generally the only creatures we know to have genders in rain world is the squidcada that has 2 genders, the rest of the creatures are genderless and presumably reproduce asexually
The red spitter spider's maggots actually crawl around and wiggle if they don't get embedded into a wall, they seem to be independant organisms rather than just venom sacs.
@@justaskeleton9087 I would agree if they just wiggled, but the sacs seem to actively crawl like maggots from what I remember from spawning them in a couple times. I could be wrong, but I think they were made to act like some kind of maggots. It could imply that spitter spiders reproduce through those parasites and bring the paralysed creature to their nests without biting, because the plan is to have the spider maggot things grow up in the still living paralysed creature in a safe and secure environment. Many insects do similar things, but this is a quite strange way to go at it.
the comment above yours (at least for me, right now) says that in the code, the projectiles are labeled "larva" and the stringy trail "umbilical", so I think you're right 😦
Eggbugs and Dropwigs being the same species is a very sound theory. I first believed that it wasn't the case because the dropwigs will eat eggbugs, yet they also seem to eat other dead dropwigs. They seem to be cannibalistic and so eggbugs being a metamophosized version or a case of sexual dimorphism is not disproven by the fact that they eat eachother. They also have very similar characteristics and they both have long antenna and 4 legs, so even if they are not the same species they would be more closely related.
I like it too, but I can’t help but wonder if the eggs on an egg bug aren’t actually eggs at all. Slug cats are called slug cats even though they are neither slugs nor cats so it might be possible that the eggbug’s name is misleading. Idk what the eggs might actually be though.
@@papapiggie6697 Theory, they are false eggs, they have the properties of a normal egg, but won't hatch. They are both on their back and dropped when killed/hit to make more presentable to predators and give the bug and actual eggs a chance to escape.2 reasons to support my theory: 1. It would be a good explanation for the blue colouring of the egg, it's to make it stand out and to make it look like other food, specifically the blue fruits. 2. Why else would it have the eggs protruding from from their back, it's easier to drop. you could say that it's dropping is a way for it's offspring to escape and survive, but than why don't they hatch like real cockroaches and are so easy to see
Imagine if all the modified creatures were the Ancients' school projects that they just released into the wild. The ones that survive living on in the environments of the games.
Hey! Aspiring entomologist here, A good theory for eggbugs is that they're parthenogenic, females can reproduce or "clone" themselves without a male necessary, like surinam roaches. Another possibility is after mating, female eggbugs will lay eggs on both their backs and the males back for added security and a larger survivability rate, the brood being split up between 2 moving targets is better than 1 moving target. Considering the behavioral and anatomical differences between them and dropwigs, I disagree that they're related. The aquapedes actually closely resemble real life scolopendromorpha, mostly Scolopendra cataracta and Scolopendra alcyona, which are semi-aquatic tropical giant centipedes. Dissecting your spider theory, here's my take on it. The wolf spider and mother spider are the same species, the coalescipede being their offspring, wolf spider being the male, and mother spider being the female, the sexual dimorphism would explain the pigmentation differences. Now the spitter spider ties into your theory about them living communally, as someone who studies spiders around Canada, I've personally seen Latrodectus hesperus and Psilochorus hesperus cohabitating extremely often, most of the time even residing in the same web, their offspring hatch at similar times too, often branching out to the same areas and continuing to cohabitate. As for why we don't see juvenile spitter spiders? They mimic the behaviour of the wolf spider juveniles and join their hellish hunting tactics. Stowaways are Arthropods yeah, spore puffs attack them and their immune system, as they do with centipedes, egg bugs, etc.
To your spider take, I think you're correct, but want to add that spitter spiders could possibly reproduce differently than wolf or mother spiders as well. The venom sack things that spitter spiders shoot out are in fact not just filled with venom, but also possibly living creatures as the sacs will actively crawl away if not attached to a creature or a wall. My theory personally is that the sacs are some kind of maggot that attaches and applies the venom while the spitter spider brings the still living creature into their den for the maggots to grow up while consuming said corpse. The den being a safe and optimal environment for the growth of the maggot. Also this would explain why spitter spiders don't bite prey, since it would be bad to kill the paralysed creature when it being alive is the whole point. All in all this theory is kind of strange and it doesn't really make sense for spiders to have maggot offspring, but it's just a random pile of thoughts I gathered. I think it's pretty interesting.
@@generalvoid1630 Oooh, interesting theory! My biggest concern and probably the biggest flaw is that offspring are extremely costly to make, in nutrition and time, why would a species evolve to "shoot" them at enemies if them surviving until adulthood is entirely dependent on the spider itself incapacitating the prey after it's paralyzed? The spitter spider does have fangs, as it grabs onto prey with the same sound that wolf spiders make when biting into the player, it just doesn't have the same lunge attack.
@@_z_873 First part, yea probably true. It doesn't really make sense. The whole theory is kind of a mess if you think about it. But on the spitter spiders having fangs, yes they do have fangs, but the fangs of spitter spiders are not as lethal as wolf spiders fangs. I didn't mean that they completely lacked fangs, but that they maybe purposefully don't attempt to kill their prey with said fangs. Unless I'm remembering wrong, wolf spiders instakill you far more often with a bite than spitter spiders, which never do so. My memory might be wrong though so take that with a grain of salt.
To add to general’s theory about spitters, in the code the sacs are called “larva” and the trail left behind is an “umbilical”. So it is indeed very likely that the sacs are a reproductive method of some kind
The presence of the grapple worms in Metropolis with the chemotroph theory could be explained by the cut content for Metropolis and a bit of Moon's dialogue: they just eat whatever nutritious bits they find in the abundant dust in the city. The equivalent to the rain/night cycle would've been a dust storm as mentioned in one of those dev commentaries, and Moon does also mention that dust just regularly falls out of the sky, so that could possibly provide enough food to the grapple worms living in the city that get their food from eating whatever tasty minerals/chemicals that make up the dust.
I love whenever Das says "Look at this list on screen" despite the fact that there isn't a list on screen (just amazing art made by amazing artists) Even though you goofed up on that, I still loved the video Das! Keep up the good work!
Same, although it's kind of weird how this was supposed to be the flora conclusion on rainword and although it accomplishes that through dialog it doesn't have the the same level of editing as the past version
@@airplanes_aren.t_realtbf he did have to write 30+ pages of wildlife analysis and it took 3 months. hes probably tired of this video at this point (edited for spelling)
I always figured the Long Legs were corrupted Inspectors, as the Inspectors' function seems to be error checking of some kind and would be the most likely organism for Pebbles to modify in order to modify his own programming.
Probably not, when you kill inspectors their hardlight body explodes leaving behind just their robotic eyes. The rot is most likely a modified amalgam of all the different biological parts of Pebbles, maybe just the processing strata that just happened to gain mobilitym
I think it was more of a starting from scratch situation. What sort of insane supercomputer would perform extremely risky procedures on the only thing that would defend him?
haven't finished the vid yet, But On Noodleflies (and Popcorn Plants): There is evidence that Noodleflies have adapted to use their sharp proboscis both as a weapon and to open Popcorn Plants in what is likely a symbiotic relationship since there's expired/opened popcorn plants in the backgrounds of areas where Noodleflies are most common. My guess is that the Popcorn Plant's seeds are actually fruit (white = flesh, red = seed) containing seeds and when Noodleflies eat them, the seeds are not digested, but when Slugcats eat them the seeds are destroyed because they crunch the seed up. Or maybe Slugcats simply swallow them whole too cause' the animation is really short. Could be that Popcorn Plants are only visible above ground while reproducing and the bodies of the plants are subterranean. Noodleflies could be really goopey arthropods bc they appear to have 8 limbs. (3 pairs of reduced legs, 1 pair of wings) During Saint's time the Noodleflies seem to have gone extinct so the Popcorn Plants have adapted to rely on wind/storms/extreme changes in pressure or temperature instead. Edit + more info: Correction: Noodleflies have 2 pairs of wings and 3 pairs of legs Evidence towards Noodleflies NOT being arthopods is that they don't have segemented bodies, but if I remember correctly Moon claims that all remaining life descends from bioengineered organisms so... The wiki also claims that the Noodlefly's needle can't break open popcorn plants so this could just be an oversight/game design purposes OR Noodleflies actually drink the nectar from the flowers of the popcorn plant and by the time slugcats seem them it's post-pollination.
@@maniandbeanohunter is described as “karmically imbalanced” by the game, which is why he can die permanently; so it still doesn’t explain how species can go extinct.
Here is a theory regarding the vulture grubs: They were and still very much are an engineered species, and have not been able to really evolve past that. This is either because they were a recently modified species are because their mechanical parts inhibit evolution. I also believe that the vultures may have been part of a security system for the cities, and the grubs could be used to summon them. Due to the nature of this, as the old society fell, The vulture grubs not being able to overcome their engineering, the ones that learned to hide underground are the only ones who really survived, Because they wouldn't signal vulturesby accident, which they themselves don't really have control over. I also have a theory that the grubs never really fully reach adulthood like axolotl for example, and reproduce in the larval stage, because of engineered hormone inhibitors, Because once they would turn into an adult insect they would be practically useless or outright die if their mechanical parts are only compatible with the larvae.
@@ligma6992 you mean vultures as transport units? Does not sound to comfy, but a plausible theory. By who exactly the grubs were used, is hard to tell. Especially because nothing in the game I've found hints to that. If there are some clues, do inform me though.
@@ligma6992 My idea was that the vultures were either security drones, maybe meant for catching engineered creatures that went rogue (maybe if one of the living capacitors decides to run away from the electrical grid (that's my theory on what centipedes were used for by the way)) or research capturing drones, meant for catching animals in the wild and bringing them back for study or modification testing. This means that the vulture grubs would have been used as signalling beacons by the ancients security/police force/animal control or by field researchers. But also never out of the question is that they were used for multiple purposes. I believe for that the ancient ones could perhaps at one point signal them more directly what to do once they summoned them. What indicates this to me is that vultures have one of the strictest behavioural patterns and little diversity in personality out of all animals, which pair excellently with them to be engineered for obedience and commandability.
1:18:57 Do you think it’s possible that the Guardians are doing the complete opposite: Encouraging the Saint to ascend all the creatures in the room plus the Guardian itself? I don’t believe we see any passive creatures in Rubicon outside of Guardian rooms, as well as 0 scavs in the entirety, so it’s possible that the Guardians take the creatures that cannot ascend and lock them in the dens until the Saint rocks up to make sure they get to ascend 1:21:34 While you’re probably right about everything else, the golden colour for Echoes is probably just void stuff since Saint has the golden look despite not wearing gold adornments Damn, what a video. This was worth the wait, with really nice art and editing (apart from one or two missed pictures I guess). Hopefully this one hits the jackpot as well!
I think there's nuance to the echoes, because Saint doesn't get a face ornament or whatever on the end screen even if he gets the golden tentacles, so maybe the echoes do fuse with some of their stuff
@@Kipyena It's possible the golden tentacles gain their colouration from the void/void fluid itself, since, y'know. anything close to the void sea is *aggressively* yellow.
@@RivLabs I wasn't going against this, I actually think the same about it since Rivulet's demon core when activated shows it's made of refined golden void fluid (And I'm not even talking about rubicon here)
@@Kipyena Ooh absolutely true! I didn't even think about how the mass rarefaction cells are literally void fluid batteries until you pointed that out (I don't have an excuse im just stupid)
Maybe Grapple Worms are a purposed organism? And the Ancients used their silk (or whatever the hell they shoot out) for stuff like clothing back in the day. No idea how plausible that is, but it might work 🤷♀️ Grapple Worms could've also been a toy for younger Ancients. I like this theory because it's fun imagining Ancients swinging Grapple Worms around like sticky hands lmao.
I’ve always thought of the long thing the worms shoot out as a tongue that travels through its body. Also I personally imagine ancients playing with a grumpy slugcat
this doesn't track at all unfortunately. they are tongues and not silk, from the color to the sound they make that matches other tongue slingin' weirdos in the world
Almost everything is a purposed organism according to moon. The purpose of the grapple worms could have been anything though, remember that a lot of time has passed, and scugs, a pretty advanced creature capable of tool use, descended from sentient pipe cleaners (just imagine shoving some mutant mouse down a drain to eat a clog). If something like that is now engaging in significantly more complicated behavior, who knows what weird thing grapple worms used to do. They could have been tape measurers, or living decoration, some organisms were even just components of a tool hidden within a box. Still though, the grapple is way too fleshy and definitely not silk. The toy theory is much more likely. Maybe they also made good yoyos.
My theory for the firebugs is that their a now extinct species of purposed organism made by the ancients to carry void fluid, now only appearing in rubicon since it’s fragment like nature even if their all dead now
They must still be alive, since, if I recall, Gourm can 'craft' their fire eggs and Gourm crafting is probably really just exchanging two items in his stomach to spit out something he stored.
I have a personal theory, more a headcanon, that wormgrass are perhaps unwanted weed (mainly because they are carnivorous) that grew unchecked after the ancients went to buy milk. Also, the green coloration of kelp in shoreline is possible to be them doing photosyntesis, since said region has light and that all other regions they live in are pitch black, since they would be way easier to spot in the open so they rely on photosyntesis as a way to complement their diet
I always imagined worm grass WERE the crops. They were likely harvested for a filling food, but when the ancients left, they started to prey on the nearby purposed organisms that were meant to maintain them (e.g rain deer were like uhhhhhhh,,,,,,, giant fertilizer-dropping machines) Also “ancients went to buy the milk” summarizes literally everything that happens in rain world.
@@Whydoiexisthere- To be honest, when I got into rain world I had the same idea of the grass being the crops. Also lol true, the milk was so good that their entire civilization just vanished
if you combine karma flower with a grenade you get fire egg, comfirming the connection karma flowers have with the void. also the devs said the similar apperances of void worms and leviathans are not a coincidence. also what does it mean for your cycles to overlap with echoes?
Personally, I *believe* (since echoes are stuck in place through metaphysical means) they also move through *time* in a substantially different way, compared to any other... life form? I'm not sure if echoes count as alive, in the traditional sense, but you get the idea. Anyway, due to their altered movement through time, they only occasionally exist at the same time as any one other being. You could imagine this as though most things experience time as a line, whilst to echoes it is a sort of wave, only crossing through, or *intersecting with*, that line at a few points. Keep in mind this is all just my interpretation, but it's cool stuff to think about!
@@RivLabs i dont think other creatures experience time quite like a line either, dying and respawning appears to be a canon thing, when you are dying in one place over and over slugcat is canonically "stuck in a cycle"
A theory I like is that gourmand's campaign is the equivalent of a fisherman's tale. It would make sense given his ability to spit out more food than he eats. Also, karma flowers are said to be drugs
Same. Some fanarts are interesting, but not necessarily canonical imaginations of the actual sprites of the creatures, so it would have been nice to see the original sprites for each as well. But as you said, it's a great video nonetheless.
The cicada theory for the squidcadas sounds good. I’d also like to note they move forward, tentacles first. Irl squids jet around backwards using vents near their “heads”. Hazers act this way, and they’re squidlike. So, why don’t squidcadas move this way? They’re not squids. They crawl like insects. Edit: Also, about the overseers, perhaps they use magnetism to move quickly. Roller coasters use magnets to accelerate to high speeds in a small amount of time. I know it’s a bit of a stretch, but since Rain World is so heavily industrialized and metallic, I don’t want to dismiss it.
My theory to explain this is that since everything likely evolved from a purposed organism (including squidcadas you can see from the weird metal plate in their head) the ancients basically put some DNA from one animal into the other (wings onto a cuttlefish) for some reason at a guess squidcada used to be delivery drones (problem with this is why wouldn't they just use drones though idk)
I’m guessing they came from some form of deep sea squid (something like a vampire squid) their main form of propulsion is two specialized fins on the sides of their heads and only use their jet as a last resort. If squidcadas came from a similar creature it’s not too crazy that they lost the ability to use their siphons as a propulsion method simply due to the fact that air is not dense enough to be used in the same manner. As for the hard external plate on their head, perhaps their ancestors had a hood similar to a nautilus. It could also be a portion of their internal shell that has become external for whatever reason, (squids have a flexible internal shell called a gladius while cuttlefish have a Cuttlebone that is far more rigid) it’s also possible that it has become far larger in order to support their bodies outside of water, this would also explain why they are so cumbersome when they aren’t flying as moving an “armored” body around with such short tentacles would not be very easy outside of water. But that’s just my take from what I know about earth squids. Edit: autocorrect thought I wanted to say ridged when I meant rigid lol
its fundamentally flawed to base anything off the name. wormgrass is called worm grass and is certainly not a form of grass. it is simply a name for our purposes, not an indication of anything in universe.
Could neuron flies be what had to adapt and evolve into a jellyfish? Idk if this makes sense but I like your theory about them having evolved from a sort of device or power source.
It puts a big smile on my face that my leviathan art made it in with such a large chunk to boot, really proud of that piece and super glad to be a part of such a fantastic video!
(talking about red lizards) "they likely claim large swaths of territory, and fight other individuals for merely entering, except the two of them in outskirts i guess they're just married or something" *meanwhile red lizard fighting noises play in the background as said married couple tears each other to shreds*
Absolutely amazing video! Only one thing I can think of that I disagree with, and thats the conclusion about Worm Grass' mouths. The blue circle feels more akin to the digestive surfaces of, for example, a flytrap, secreting enzymes and eating a creature without swallowing it. Only instead of holding it in place via two mouth-like lobes, Worm Grass hold it in place with some kind of adhesive, each individual "blade" of grass adhering to its prey at once to digest it slowly and painfully. This could also explain two oddities about them. When a creature has even 1 worm grass attached to them, even if they are completely out of the patch and above ground, they may still die if it does not let go. They are literally being digested alive. Additionally, perhaps Green and Caramel Lizards repel worm grass either through the "extreme smell" mentioned in the video, or- what seems more likely in my opinion- perhaps they evolved skin designed to be difficult if not outright impossible for the Worm Grass's adhesive to grab ahold of.
One thing that confused me about the pain cones is that’s it’s defence mechanism is on its own worthless, but thinking about it, many pain cones tend to grow in places where worm grass grows, so if you get caught by the defence mechanism in a patch of worm grass, you are dead, almost certainly so the worm grass could be the reason that such a defence mechanism was adapted.
I think grapple worms have sticky tongues and shoot them out to catch debris, bugs, etc, and then wipe their body across their tongue as they move to the side, eating as they go, and once they retract one of the tips it'll also bring whatever debris or animals it landed on to the mouth as well. Basically I think they have a weird method of filter feeding.
A thing I've noticed about the Leviathan is that they look awfully similar to the worm like structures you see in the background of shoreline. Although this theory is kind of a stretch.
Rain world should have a dlc called dry-world where it’s millions of cycles gone by since the iterators fell and the rain caused by them has dissipated causing extreme heat and dry climate idk thought it would be cool
I commented this on the original video, but I'll put it here it again. I think the grapple worms feed on electricity, and use the tounges to ground a source together and feed on the energy going through them. This explains why they're almost on 5p. This can also explain why they sort of randomly search, like they're going for a good position. And it gives them an original purpose, like an emergency wire for dangerous discharges, which are a common thing.
1:09:14 Its also pretty important to note that it was confirmed by a developer that there is a connection between void worms and leviathans. There is likely a overarching purpose for them rather than to kill everything nearby them
@@MarijnBontje Lizards are closer to a size of 1 to 3 meters from what I understand. They're not small and their heads are probably big enough to fit most of your head inside. From all I've seen Rain world is a completely hostile environment, where basically everything could kill an adult human without much effort.
1:43:56, plants do use spores, bryophytes, (mosses) and ferns and such are not seed bearing plants as they evolved before that adaptation, they instead use spores. (Bear in mind I’ve only just started plant science in university so I’m hoping that I just remembered that right)
@@colfy3961 yeah,it would expand the cosmology of rainworld so stupid redditors don’t say “rainworld is flat and there are no other stars or planets in the rainworld universe”
While this is way higher quality something i really do miss from the previous video is in-game clips showing the behavior as you are describing it, felt it added a lot.
Seems you missed the Hunter Long Legs in the Rot section. Though it only appears in the Gourmand play through and they are pretty rare due to their creation method, so I guess it doesn’t really matter.
I actually have an idea for the bubble weed, from what I can tell it grows in areas which flood during rain cycles or have varying water levels, so what if the plant has the air bubbles as a way of storing air containing both CO2 for the plant and also O2 which so happens can be used by other creatures, so the plant may breath during floods. Probably a bit of a long shot but i just wanted to get the thought out.
About miros vulture laser. Long time ago I have seen strange weapon in another game - sword of the stars. There were a weapon that emits harmless ray that causes explosion at the end. I asked a physics student about such possibility. And he taught me that something like this is actually possible at least in theory. Some sort of chemical reaction at the end of the ray.
Considering that the Wheel Flower glows like void fluid and that it allows you to access cycles and memories not normally accessible without the Flower I would assume that Flower itself is akin to some type of blessing from the Void. Also taking into consideration the fact that these Flowers seemingly grow in places of importance (Example being the Perma Flower growing where the hunter dies and the Flower that grows right before the hole that survivor and monk fell in), it feels like the Flowers are just gifts from the void. Another reason the flowers are related to the void is because it just let's Artificer see Echoes, something straight up from the void itself, which isn't possible without the flower.
A theory on the caramel lizards: Due to green lasers being resistant to red lizard bites, caramel lizards may simply be a cross-breed species between the two who has managed to completely outcompete their green ancestors, most likely also because the green lizards were not cold resistant enough to survive the snowstorms.
I think you missed this, but there also seems to be a morphological relationship between jetfish and vultures - a vulture with its mask off looks a **lot** like an overgrown jetfish, with the same two weird little mouthparts; the vulture's "wings" would then be more like an adapted form of the jetfish tentacles, and they both seem to be propelled through "jets" of fluid (water or pressurized gas). Given how much more "artificial" the vultures are, I think it's likely that jetfish are closer to the ancestral, less-modified form.
Caramel Lizards intrigue me. In real life, it takes an extremely long time- even on a geological timescale- for animals to evolve new limb pairs. Typically, such things are actually repurposed existing limbs. I know Rain World's grasp on evolutionary biology is tenuous- especially since any number of these could be purposed organisms- but I like to think the Caramel Lizard is actually the most *primitive* form of lizard alive today. This would all be explained if all lizards originally had six legs, but most of them were reduced to vestigial remnants, completely inside the bodies of modern lizards. After all, a four-legged gait is quite efficient, and it's possible the lineage that gave rise to modern lizards lost the need for their third limb pair entirely. That, then, would explain why Caramel Lizards retain their third limb pair- they may have evolved stronger legs that allow them to pounce and leap, a feat only achievable thanks to having six of them.
Caramel lizards being a more primitive version would make sense, they are completely immune to the cold, which is apparently the natural state of the world, an icy landscape. They could very well be the original lizards, before they were turned into purposed organisms and went feral (or a close relative to it). The lack of extra limbs might even be from the ancients meddling. They may have just wandered into iterator controlled habitat from the snowy surroundings. Would also explain why they are found in the outer expanse, they colonized that area first, and then some occasionally trickled into iterator territory over time, and by the time of the saint campaign, they just flooded in, thriving in the now frigid conditions.
@@chitinskin9860 if your correct, this might also indicate that the areas a larger distance from the iterators are more of a tundra habitat. perhaps the world was starting an extended ice age when the iterators were first being built and those conditions remained in place in untouched corners of the world. and if we could somehow reach them we would see the flora and fauna that wouldve existed had the iterators never been built.
My theory with yellow lizards instead of radio signals could be vibrations, when a yellow lizard spots you it makes a weir noise and it wiggles it head, probably producing vibrations that the alpha can "translate" to the others
Like that one ball in underhang I think has a ton it could be a short or long range radio that kinda just stopped working and the cretures decided to escape and use the antenna for pact tatics
Also, the orange lizard makes sense bc base game they are often found in places with a lot of radio waves like sky islands and the weird balls in the exterior
Red centipedes do actually live with smaller orange ones, you can see this in subterranean and pipeyard. They also don’t attack the other centipedes so I’d say it’s very likely that the red centipedes are the final growth stage of the more common centipedes. The reason you don’t see many of them would be that most centipedes simply don’t live long enough to reach that stage of their life.
One thing that I always found interesting is that after downpour gave lizards personalized hisses, yellow and cyan lizards ended up sharing the same ones. And this might be kind of a wild guess, but I'd like to imagine that due to those hisses' electronic nature (which also help contextualize both their abilities and traits) both are different breeds of partially cybernetic guardian lizards, cyan for Pebbles' superstructure and yellow for Moon's. (WHICH coincidentally matches those iterators' ID colours related to their chatlogs, inspectors and overseers) This would more or less explain their proximity to the respective superstructures, as by the time Moon starts malfunctioning, or around the time Spearmaster's campaign takes place, yellow lizards, while still very much present around her struts, would start migrating away from her now more dangerous and unstable environments to other places, such as Pebbles' superstructure where their social nature could overpower cyan lizards' abilities, forcing the latter to hide away. There might be a few "buts" with this train of thought but I think it's an interesting way of explaining their weird electronic hisses. Other cool things to note! - Dev commentary mentions Miros Vultures prefer cold climates, that's why when moon collapses and the top of her superstructure stops generating heat, turning into bitter aerie, Miros Vultures that haunted Pebbles' and her underhangs migrate there. That's why they also appear in Glacial Wasteland/Saint's Garbage Wastes. - Centiwings' aggression level are not random! They start out ambivalent but the more time you spend around them (while they're focusing on you and not another creature in proximity) they begin to grow impatient of you, seeing you more as a nuisance or a threat. Only when provoked that way, or through direct aggression, they become hostile. - The lime past garbage wastes pearl mentions a mix of tiny purposed organisms and microbes inside the acid digestion tanks, which accidentally create violatile substances. Moon suggests those could (however unlikely) integrate into the surrounding ecosystem, which caused some theorizing that Artificer could've accidentally spent too much time around them and thus have gained her explosive abilities. - It is very interesting to note that Spearmaster can't siphon nutrition from Garbage Worms (suggesting they're more mechanical than organic), Rain Deer, Stowaways' bodies (which cause the spears to fall, presumably because of their gooey thickness, but Stowaway' tentacles still can be fed from) and Overseers (probably because they aren't tangible enough?). They CAN however siphon it from Inspectors and Guardians, suggesting not only that both have some (possibly inorganic) nutrition to them, but also given how spears stick to Inspectors, that their holographic bodies (and also Overseers' by extention?) are made of something akin to "hard light", kind of like hyper light from Hyper Light Drifter? Maybe? - You forgot to mention Albino Vultures NOT A TRUE RAIN WORLD FAN BOOOOOO (jk)
I definitely think slugcats are of equal intelligence to humans. The mark allows them to understand a foreign language, and the things the iterators communicate to them are all very complex. It doesn't gift intelligence, so given that what the iterators say to them all make total sense to them- or at least they seem to, since the game usually doesn't give us meta-knowledge and so we probably don't get any more from the dialogue than they do- this means they are at least as intelligent as us, just less advanced. Which makes sense. Scavs have already taken the niche of a full tribal civilization. There's not much room for anything else to take it. As for skin slime, while they do look really shiny in some of the art, and the evidence I'm going to present isn't super solid.. I'd like to mention that in the dating sim, it is made clear that Rivulet's clammy skin is very unusual. So assuming that the people who wrote the script consulted the original designer of the slugcat, it would seem that slugcats have dry, hairless skin- except for Saint and Rivulet, who have fur and slime respectively. It's also possible slugcats have a very thin layer of fur since, while they implied they are normally furless in the dating sim, humans also have a bad habit of implying areas of the body with thin hair are hairless when they are not. But, for now, the best assumption is that Saint is an outlier and other slugcats lack fur.
i like to imagine that leviathans are purposed organism created by the ancients to mimic the void worms the reason being the body structure (large , slim with many fins) with the head being a dead maschine. like what if there were anchients who wanted to talk to the echos like ask what ascention was like? was the anything? how does void fluid feel like? but mostly what did the void worms look like in order to make their own version of the void worm in another way to ascend (witch probably didnt end to well) witch is aslo why the leviathans eat everything its just doing what the ancients wanted of them
Das, I think Stowaways are related to Grapple Worms, but have evolved to be stationary predators, and also evolved their sticky tongues into the venomous tendrils that they hunt with. I also think that they could be a mature version of the Grapple Worms.
I think leviathans might be from another iterator planted in the ocean, kinda like how the miros birds and vultures are guardians for pebbles and moon. So if another iterator collapsed from old age who's to say the leviathans didn't move when the ecosystem around thier iterator became unviable.
@@B_Skizzle Sliver's location wasn't actually ever mentioned! People /assume/ that they were part of Moon and Pebbles' local group, but there's no proof one way or another.
Games like Rain World really inspire me. The creature designs are so simple yet creative and have helped me a lot with when designing my own fantasy creatures. And the way the world treats you like an actual part of the ecosystem instead of a main character is really cool. While I haven’t finished the game yet I honestly can’t recommend it enough, very fun and challenging.
I personally think Jetfish's closest relative is the Vulture. Both have propulsion-based movement, arms used to control themselves, and have colorful eyes.
Plausible! What does that suggest for Miros Birds' lack of jets or other propulsion mechanisms? Perhaps they were co-opted to work as a pneumatic system for their legs?
@@RivLabs I theorized that Rain World's "avians" all have a sort of gas bladder. In Miros Birds, it could definitely be grafted to their legs. Similarly, king vultures probably use this organ to fire their harpoon. Jetfish just took it to an extreme, and adapted to use water.
Amazing video aside, I do kinda miss gameplay in the background. When discussing behaviour it could show gameplay, then in the appearance/wacky theory sections, it could show the art. Either way, amazing video
Moon also has dialogue for gourmand's campaign, moon congratulates gourmand for crafting the fire egg (made with a karma flower and a bomb.) Taken from the wiki, Moon will say the following: "Healthy one... what is this, and where did you get it? Is this a feat of your own creation?" "It's a bit unbelievable. A... creature like you procuring something like this would be an amazing accomplishment for your species..." "Ah, well, if it tells a good story then I won't question it too much~" I'll also note that firebugs, and thus fire eggs spawn in colors of red, orange and pink, however when gourmand crafts one, they can be green, blue or purple as well. However, none of this really tells us much about the firebugs as far as I can tell.
HE MASE THE MISTAKE AGAIN AUGHHHHH the slug cat IS prehensile, the slug moves their tail away from nearby predators Unless prehensile means “really mobile”
Absolutely loved the video btw, but I want to talk about my small theory about garbage worms. I believe that they are fully mechanical, like das said in the previous floura video. I believe this because garbage works (I think) are the only creature able to be stabbed by a spear, but cannot actually die, showing how they are durable like a fully mechanical object
about the nootflies: in real life there is a type of small gecko (or lizard) that does not require a mate to reproduce instead this lizard basically creates a clone of itself wich leads to the populations of this lizard in the real world being only females so every single one of these lizards is a clone of the last. (they are called mourning geckos btw) this could be how noots reproduce
