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Catholic Creationist: St. Augustine | Episode 2: Augustine vs. Trent Horn 

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The second episode in our St. Augustine debate series. Does St. Augustine actually think Catholics should NOT listen to the experts when they contradict the Faith?
Let's see how Catholic scholar and apologist Trent Horn's take on the great Doctor stands up to the words of Doctor Augustine himself.

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@the3mi
@the3mi Месяц назад
Episode 1 with Jimmy Akin ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ptQ8GsoBPzk.htmlsi=pjEyERxMFdxHYAP9
@CatholicBrewer-x3u
@CatholicBrewer-x3u 19 дней назад
This was a joy to watch. So much information. Took away more from this video than other conservative Catholic videos that are many times longer. How would you recommend overcoming the term "fundamentalism" that comes up over and over when these doctrines of creation are covered. I saw one of your other videos and you are right, the term did come out in the 1920s! How can the Catholic conservative commentators not do their research like your institute has done?
@TakoTaiko
@TakoTaiko Месяц назад
I was waiting for a video like this. I which it was longer and I hope it gets more views. I now sort of understand why is he so against of YEC.
@drkissinger1
@drkissinger1 Месяц назад
He’s against it because it’s manifestly false based on empirical observation, and demanding that people believe that the earth is young when it is old is going to devastate faith.
@CatholicBrewer-x3u
@CatholicBrewer-x3u 20 дней назад
It was an amazing video. They were spot on with their conclusions following perfectly from the statement made my Mr. Trent Horn. Bravo whoever made this on being so logically consistent! You have fan! Please keep churning out some very Catholic and very enjoyable material.
@theradioattheendoftheworld4251
@theradioattheendoftheworld4251 Месяц назад
Trouble is, as I see it, the theory of evolution is not a scientific discovery at all.
@howieeldridge3806
@howieeldridge3806 Месяц назад
This might be the most offensive video I’ve ever seen on Saint Augustine. The great irony being that you have misinterpreted his words as u accuse Trent Horn of doing the same. Did Paul not say to admire all creation and its laws as a part of revelation?
@bolapromatoqueejogodecampe8718
@bolapromatoqueejogodecampe8718 Месяц назад
Can someone cite an evidence for evolution, as in universal common descent?
@howieeldridge3806
@howieeldridge3806 Месяц назад
Yea there is a myriad of evidence for example increasing and decreasing genetic similarity, vestigial structures, homology, embryology.
@bolapromatoqueejogodecampe8718
@bolapromatoqueejogodecampe8718 Месяц назад
@@howieeldridge3806 Cite one of the myriad, your favorite if you want, and the study that demonstrates it. Let us take a look at the study and see if it really demonstrates universal common descent.
@howieeldridge3806
@howieeldridge3806 Месяц назад
@@bolapromatoqueejogodecampe8718 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22729859/ Another thing you can do is get an X-ray on your arms, then X-ray another mammal’s arm, and funny enough you’ll see the same bones but in different ratios. Just at god intended!
@howieeldridge3806
@howieeldridge3806 Месяц назад
@@bolapromatoqueejogodecampe8718 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22729859/
@howieeldridge3806
@howieeldridge3806 Месяц назад
@@bolapromatoqueejogodecampe8718 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22729859/
@cblanch912
@cblanch912 10 дней назад
Good grief! This guy really brands himself as the "Counsel of Trent"?!🙄That's not even remotely cute.
@levipingleton-cv1fg
@levipingleton-cv1fg Месяц назад
We need to link up
@brother-andremarie9352
@brother-andremarie9352 Месяц назад
It is impressive how categorically Saint Augustine contradicts the errors of modern scientism and theistic evolution ante nomen. It is equally impressive -- in a bad way -- how Catholics who should know better invoke against him the authority of none other than ... Saint Augustine!
@JamesBond-qd5rc
@JamesBond-qd5rc Месяц назад
Agree with your presentation. Thank you.
@Melek0al0Kebir
@Melek0al0Kebir Месяц назад
I find the video strange. It sounds a bit too much like a conspiracy theory to my ears. Theology and physics have completely different methods. As far as I know, physicists are well aware that the models they develop based on empirical findings are just that. Furthermore, the video lacks a passage from the Catechism that shows that there is a contradiction between church doctrine and science. Or rather, which doctrine or dogma is supposed to be in danger here.
@huntermyuk2077
@huntermyuk2077 Месяц назад
Just an unknown channel twisting the quotes of a very well known person to clickbait and trick people.
@McRingil
@McRingil Месяц назад
no scientific theory is "just a model" it's postulating a real causal mechanism of real entities, not a subtle take to infer from the difference of methods the impossibility of contradiction. Of course physics can contradict theology and vice versa. For example models of eternal universe contradict the dogma about the beginning of the world.
@Melek0al0Kebir
@Melek0al0Kebir Месяц назад
@@McRingil Where did you get those ideas from?
@neilanadams5173
@neilanadams5173 Месяц назад
Thank you. Keep it up, God bless
@sotem3608
@sotem3608 Месяц назад
Thanks for the video!
@franzchristianvelasco9693
@franzchristianvelasco9693 Месяц назад
None of the quotes you mentioned here refute Trent Horn's position
@basedoppenheimer1497
@basedoppenheimer1497 Месяц назад
Clearly you have a cockroach IQ.
@Redcrimson99
@Redcrimson99 Месяц назад
I was under the impression that the RCC put out an encyclical teaching that evolution is compatible with Genesis?
@egggmann2000
@egggmann2000 Месяц назад
How could death come before Adam’s sin? Evolution requires quite a bit of death to occur before the first human existed and sinned? Even if you don’t take the 7 days as literal, I don’t see how one could square scripture with evolution.
@TommyGunzzz
@TommyGunzzz Месяц назад
They did, they are completely incoherent putting death before the fall. Much worse than that with ADS, they deny all theophanies in the old testament or the Trinity in the old testament, which makes sense why they are in a non official union with Muslims and Jews (v2 says they all worship the same God (which is not the Trinity) they are building a united faith center in Abu Dhabi with them, etc)
@MasterKeyMagic
@MasterKeyMagic Месяц назад
@@egggmann2000Because Genesis is not literal
@McRingil
@McRingil Месяц назад
@@egggmann2000 you heard of Satan? He messed up a lot of things, also animals don't have immortal souls, death is natural for them, st Thomas says it's natural for humans too
@johnbrion4565
@johnbrion4565 Месяц назад
God created science so there is no conflict. Augustine was not all knowing. We know science works as you are posting videos electronically on your computer transmitted to anyone around the world.
@IGNORMY
@IGNORMY Месяц назад
bro pitted a modern apologist against a departed Saint and ended up being the loser himself
@McRingil
@McRingil Месяц назад
this video is one big non sequitur
@McRingil
@McRingil Месяц назад
not a good look slandering Fr Lemaitre
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